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helenr
05-31-2007, 09:33 AM
Dear Abby today had comments on "Jack's grandpa" who feared a baby boy wearing pink would become a transvestite later on. Writers commented how pink historically was the color used on warriors-represented strength, war, fire and blood--and blue was for women--(blue represented harmony, peace, sky and water). I had once read that until about 1910, baby boys were garbed in pink, girls in blue. Never learned 'who' decided to change the style 180 degrees.
I know I preferred 'trying on' my big sister's pink nylon briefs in preference to the blue ones when I was about 6. Don't know how that correlates to the Dear Abby, but I have been a transvestite the past 50+ years since.
So many of us suffer the pressure Society creates that we must conform to what is labelled correct for our biological gender. I salute the gurls who brave this challenge and go out enfemme. You go gurls! Helen

Emily Ann Brown
05-31-2007, 10:22 AM
Okay, good....that explains it all and I am not at fault......me mutter dressed me in the wrong color as a child. GIGGLE GIGGLE !


Emily Ann

O2B Barbara
05-31-2007, 10:22 AM
Have to say that pink is probably my favorite color to wear both under and out. Followed closely by black, blue, red and white.

Does this mean I do not fit the norm? Help!!

LindaTS
05-31-2007, 01:54 PM
I have to admit that pink is probably my favorite color and just happen to be wearing it today when I was in Wal-Mart. The lady at the check out counter must have agreed because she complimented me on my pink jeans. We both agreed that we get pretty tired of seeing plain old blue denim jeans which about 95% of the women wear these days.

az_azeel
05-31-2007, 04:21 PM
I dont think it matters what colour is what as long as your happy wearing it.. As for the baby being dressed in pink there is no scientific proof that a baby boy wearing pink will grow up to be a transvestite.. My personal opinion is its genetic... I cant think of any other trigger...


Take care :hugs:

KimberlyS
05-31-2007, 04:48 PM
Dear Abby today had comments on "Jack's grandpa" who feared a baby boy wearing pink would become a transvestite later on. ....
So many of us suffer the pressure Society creates that we must conform to what is labelled correct for our biological gender. I salute the gurls who brave this challenge and go out enfemme. You go gurls! Helen

IMHO, one possible cause of a TV/CD/TG is not the dressing a baby in Pink or Blue, but the "Jack's Grandpa's" that are out there saying:
"Blue is for boys, Pink is for girls"
"Girls like dolls, pretty things, and lace, Boys like trucks, rough and tough"
"Girls are feminine, delicate and should be cared for, Boys are masculine, strong and do not cry"
"Girls stay clean, Boys get dirty"
"Girls are proper, Boys are rude and disgusting"
"Girls are house wifes, cook, clean, and raise babies, Boys provide for the family, take care of the house and the family money"

And the many many many other society gender types there are.

A male baby with feminine characteristics, likes or tenancies can not help but be confused. And the same for a female baby with masculine characteristics, likes, or tenancies.

Toyah
05-31-2007, 04:49 PM
I really dont like pink or blue much Black is more me

Ashleigh
05-31-2007, 05:33 PM
Pink for me - as much as possible.

A :doll:

rose382832
05-31-2007, 06:02 PM
one quarter ofmy femme wardrobe is pink, another is pastel baby blue , black green( pstel) and purple make up the rest. does this mean that i should get rid of 3 quarters of my clothes to be a " real" girl?:heehee:

battybattybats
05-31-2007, 07:31 PM
Pink can be nice from time to time. Especially as an accent to black. The markings on the wooden beads on my belt in my pics are pink.

kerrianna
05-31-2007, 07:59 PM
I went through an intense pink phase, but while I still really like it, I've started to gravitate towards the colours and fabrics I REALLY love. Earthy, artsy, flowing stuff. Seem to be getting into baby blue a lot... ironically. :p

OldMom
05-31-2007, 08:29 PM
I wish our society could relax a little bit. What are we so damn afraid of? Each other? We are so mean to each other, it breaks my heart.

When my son was about 6 his father bought him a pink dress they found at a garage sale. Now, he'd been dressing up for a while because he and I always did our "acting game". His father (my ex) actually started to accept my son's uniqueness before I did. I was pretty mad at him for buying that dress at the time. At the time I think we thought he might become gay but now I realize a lot of things. Our society is so uninformed as was I. Once I realized this was a gender identification issue, not a sexual preferance (which he was too young for and still is most likely), it was even harder. I thought, heck, being gay is halfway accepted in our society. But trans people are the most misunderstood and most unaccepted I think.

Sorry to get so serious. I do think that worrying about such things as baby colors is pretty silly.

Holly
05-31-2007, 08:42 PM
...I do think that worrying about such things as baby colors is pretty silly.Ahhhh, the voice of reason. Thanks for pointing that out, OM. :love:

Dixie
05-31-2007, 08:45 PM
If Pink is for girls and Blue is for boys or visa versa, then does that make Lavender for Crossdressers??:D:drink:

Kieron Andrew
05-31-2007, 09:16 PM
then does that make Lavender for Crossdressers??:D:drink:
it most certainly does

Rachel Morley
05-31-2007, 09:22 PM
To me it's about association. If had been told when I was little that any particular color was a "girls' color" I would have wanted that color. :D

Carolka GG
05-31-2007, 09:29 PM
Amen (Awomen) OM and Kimberley S - it's the stereotyping that goes along with it that creates problems for everyone. :happy:

You go gurls indeed! - and bouquets :love: to all of us who are willing to throw conformity out the window and not be bothered by it to begin with! :D

Carolka

Kieron Andrew
05-31-2007, 09:36 PM
ok ok i confess! i have a pink shirt:heehee::o

Billijo49504
05-31-2007, 09:37 PM
I had a pink Blankie, when I was young. Hmmmm? Could that be the reason for wantiing to dress??????BJ

CaptLex
05-31-2007, 09:47 PM
ok ok i confess! i have a pink shirt:heehee::o
Me too, actually. And a (GM) friend of mine had the nerve to tell me I shouldn't wear it. I said, "Why, do you think it'll make me gay? Too late!" Ha, ha! :heehee:

Andi
06-01-2007, 12:22 AM
I drank a lot of pink lemonade as a kid- could that be a cause? (Giggle!) Actually I am very partial to any pastel including pink.

lowlavalentine
06-01-2007, 12:44 AM
My mother still dresses me in pink... oh, perhaps that's too much information to share.

trannie T
06-01-2007, 12:59 AM
A woman friend complimented me one day for wearing a pink shirt. She said that it showed that I was sure of myself and of my sexuality. Little did she know that I wore it because I thought it was cute.

helenr
06-01-2007, 09:53 AM
So many nice comments, thanks friends. I think the public in general is very insecure with identity. So much pressure to conform. Testosterone is such an evil. Seems so much violence relates to it. Two young men will get into a dispute, lethal force is used. Take the same situation, two older men with minimal amounts of testosterone, they discuss matters, maybe shake hands and part on good terms. Testosterone is the villian. A bit off the topic of the color pink, I suppose, but I am sure most males would never wear pink due to male insecurity,etc. helen

CaptLex
06-01-2007, 10:03 AM
Testosterone is such an evil. Seems so much violence relates to it.
Not from where I'm sitting - but I see your point. I think hormones of either kind have the ability to control us and make us do things we know are not rational. Estrogen can make one weepy and emotional, testosterone can make one aggressive. And even when we realize that it's the hormones, not us, we feel helpless to do anything about it. Personally, I feel I can keep my aggressiveness under control, but I sure don't miss those weepy days. :p

susie evans
06-01-2007, 10:22 AM
old mom
the voice of reason and much wisdome is very accurate and experiance thank you for your insite :hugs:

susie

gennee
06-01-2007, 04:50 PM
I read about this almost two years ago. I have always liked pink and blue, soo....... :D

Gennee

Rachel75
06-02-2007, 04:08 AM
I've never been a big fan of pink - especially with clothes...but I do love it on my toes!

CalvinKlein
06-02-2007, 07:34 AM
I learned of this fact and many other eye-opening facts regarding gender in a psychology class I took at college called "Sex & Gender" Our main text was Gender & Society by Michael Kimmel. it was a very interesting class. It's funny because I dress very good for a guy, I sometimes where women's jeans, but if the class and the prof only knew I had panties under my clothes!