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Sapphire
06-02-2007, 04:59 PM
It seems fairly obvious that most women would much prefer if their partners were not crossdressers and that most women also find unattractive those men who do not have normal male body hair. As a crossdresser who could never grow sideburns and has very sparse male body hair, I just wonder how frequently crossdressers share a measure of physically feminine characteristics (including also height and skin tone) and how such men fare in their relationships with women.

Marla S
06-02-2007, 05:36 PM
The women I know good enough to know are not very prone to body hair.
It's either too scratchy, tickles or they get hair in the mouth.
It's somehow masculine, but that's about it.

As for the feminine body features (is there a feminine skin tone ?), it depends on the GG. Some like it this way others that way.

rose382832
06-02-2007, 06:13 PM
very litle body hair at all and what there is is very light blonde. as to facial hair i can grow an ok mustach and a small goatee but nothing else grows. the goatee never even grew in till after i was 40. im also very lucky to be naturaly very slim, 125 pounds and 6 foot tall. also not loosing the hair on top at :happy:46.

Fab Karen
06-02-2007, 06:15 PM
"normal male body hair" -such a generalization can't be made about men, it varies even within a given race. Also stating "most women" would require a study to gauge whether that idea is accurate.

Fab Karen
06-02-2007, 06:32 PM
To respond to the question, I'm 6'2 in bare feet( & I have big feet, most women don't wear size 12 ). I can grow extremely little body hair above the waist.

brenya
06-02-2007, 06:34 PM
I'm so jealous of you gurls with very little body hair, I feel like a science experiment sometimes trying to fight it

Babette
06-02-2007, 07:39 PM
It seems like it took me forever to develop facial hair and when it happened, it was very light colored. When I was a teenager, many of my male friends developed an Adams apple and I felt self conscious because I never did. When I was 35, I still had a baby face and looked like I was 16. The upper body hair was never prominent. Despite all of this, never felt that it hindered any female relationships.

Now that I am in my 50's, gee am I thankful for these attributes. :cheeky:

Babette

DeeInGeorgia
06-02-2007, 08:03 PM
Extreme shyness, partly from body self image of not feeling particularly masculine, as well as a belief that girls and women were not attracted to men that treated them badly. An actual lack of masculine features (slight of build, lack of body hair) made me look younger, which also was a turnoff for women. I was so desperate for femail companionship that I was able to overcome my shyness to be able to date a number of women, they only went out with me due to my square dancing abilities, and not being interested in any type of long term relationship.

I finally found a long term girlfriend, but she was older (by 12 years and divorced) and not interested in marriage. We finally broke up and I moved to California where I finally found a wife. But those teens and twenties were extremely painful.

I still look younger than I actually am, but when I get all made up enfemme, I actually look my age.

Dee

Emilia
06-02-2007, 09:38 PM
I've always considered myself pretty lucky that I'm not very hairy. The hair on my arms is very fine, and I see GGs all the time that have more noticeable hair on their arms. My belly and chest is much darker, but I do shave my chest and my thighs. The hair on the bottom of my legs isn’t really that noticeable if I’m wearing nylons either, but it looks like a woman who hasn’t shaved theirs. I’m also lucky that my facial hair does nogrow in too thick!

So I guess I’m lucky in that regard, but I still have plenty of other stuff I wish was different :D

Kristi

Susan.
06-02-2007, 09:53 PM
I remember when I was first married and my wife first told my inlaws that I didn't have hair on my chest. I did but not a lot. Anyway back then I jumped all over her statement saying that I did have chest hair. Unfortunately, it grew in quite a bit more and now includes my back. NOW, I wished my wife was right about me not having chest hair. :sad: I can deal with that but the back hair I cannot and my arm hair is even worse. :sad::sad:

Seville
06-02-2007, 10:05 PM
I don't equate natural lack of body hair with "feminine" characteristics.

bredalee25
06-02-2007, 10:24 PM
lets see where do i start about body hair well it seems i've got an abundance of the stuff it's all over my chest stomach back arms legs shoulders shall i continue you got the picture. My grandfather always said a few more days in the oven and you would have been an ape. I laighed it off then but now when trying to look fem with all that hair is almost impossible unless i wear clothes that cover everything. Thats why i stick to dressing indoors and only venture out at night very late at night for a brisk walk around the block. If i had my way it would all go away except for on my head where btw i'm losing hair it figures where i want it it's going away and where i don't want it it seems to multiply.

ttfn

ToyGirl
06-02-2007, 10:45 PM
Skin and body hair are secondary sex characteristics. Females have much softer skin and generally (alot less body hair). Soft skin is easier to damage of course, im yet to see a GG with less body hair than me, and I am thankfull for that trait.

Lady Phoenix
06-03-2007, 01:16 AM
Whats that, im 45 i have no, none, zero body hair from the waist up and very thin on the legs , only need to shave everyother day, naturally med to dark complexion im 6'1 and 140, on the down side size 11 foot and a adams apple that looks like i have a ping pong ball stuck in my throat.

Hali
06-03-2007, 06:50 AM
Well i dont have much body hair and my facial hair is just OK infact even though i have a dark complesion I hardly have any BEARD SHADOW, so is it an advantage for a CD? yeah for a CD yes, any feminin feature is an advantage especially if it'll allow you to pass well.

Michelle04240
06-03-2007, 09:44 AM
I had very little hair on my chest and thighs. A little bit on my lower legs, and none on the whole backside of my body. "Had" being the key word as I now shave it all off. My wife was not crazy about the idea at first but now loves my smooth body. She would be more upset if I stopped shaving.

Rachel Morley
06-03-2007, 11:16 AM
I have never liked being hairy. Even before I started crossdressing I always hated it. I started working out with weights a lot in my early 30's and consequently I wanted to show off my muscles more (especially my pecs and 6 pack) so I started getting my chest and abdomen waxed from a friend who worked at a women's beauty salon. I would go to the salon to get this done every 4 weeks. After a while she persuaded me to get my entire legs waxed too. Then this progressed to getting my underarms waxed plus she would always keep my forearm hair very short (but not removed) too. I ended up getting facials and manicures as well. This went on for about 10 years.

All those years of constant waxing has meant that it takes quite a while to get any kind of growth on my legs, chest, and abdomen these days, so it's very easy to maintain a hair free body by shaving once a once a week in the shower.

As far as relationships with women and not being hairy are concerned. I found that some women like men with hairy chests and some don't. My women friends used to think I was a bit strange when they found out I regularly got my legs waxed. Today, it's not a problem because my wife loves me to to be completely free of all body hair - seeing a guy's hairy body literally makes her cringe and shudder. She really hates hairy men with a passion!

ronni
06-03-2007, 02:52 PM
I gave up on trying to grow body hair. The hair on my legs was so light colored you couldn't see it unless it was wet, so when I started shaving no one noticed. I had 1 hair on my chest and now it's gone too.

Ruth
06-03-2007, 03:48 PM
I'm much hairier than I'd like to be, but I would guess the general hair growth is a bit below average for middle-aged men. I have to shave chest and legs, though my arm hair is pretty well invisible, and I've got nothing on my back. Figure wise I'm not too masculine, about 5ft 8, 150 lbs, and I'm slight through the chest and shoulders with a bigger butt and hips.
I think this made it easier for me to contemplate CDing, but on the other hand I don't think that what you look like is going to stop you.
Ruth

Lilnwild
06-03-2007, 03:54 PM
well i am a small guy at only 5' 2 126lbs though, been told my hole life when i was in school i would be a good girl in stead of a guy/.

Jodi
06-03-2007, 07:55 PM
I am about 5'8" or 5'9" depending on the measuring scale and weigh about 150#. I have now a 30" waist and have maintained it. I also have a small bone structure which lends itself well for cd'ing today. I have small feet (womens size 10) and thin hands. I have never had much body hair and have even less today. I have taken proscar for BPH for the past three years. It is a testosterone blocker. Some of the side effects are lightening of body hair and breast growth. No breast growth for me, but the lightening of the body hair has shown. Right now, I have no hair on my back, light hair on my arms. I keep my armpits and chest shaved daily, but only have to shave my legs once a week.

These atributes certainly did not hold me back as a male. I was an outstanding high school athlete in three sports, and lettered for 4 years in one sport in college. I also spent an army career as a combat arms officer. I've eaten more bugs and mud in a month than most humans do in a lifetime.

These attributes do help me to currently present myself as a very passible female. I always knew that something good would come of it.

Jodi

samcs
06-20-2007, 09:54 AM
I do have quite a bit of hair on my body. I guess the only good thing about getting closer to 50 is the hair is beginning to thin out all over. I like it except on my thinning head.

JulieC
06-20-2007, 11:34 AM
My grandfather always said a few more days in the oven and you would have been an ape.

:lol: :lol: :lol:


If i had my way it would all go away except for on my head where btw i'm losing hair it figures where i want it it's going away and where i don't want it it seems to multiply.

I've told people before, "I'm not losing my hair. It's migrating"

angelfire
06-20-2007, 11:54 AM
I'm way too hairy for my own good. Its dark, and theres alot of it. My facial hair I need to shave every 2-3 days, and even that is pushing it. I wish I didn't have body hair, but I don't want people saying stuff about that. I do have male friends who don't have any (or much) upper body hair, and wax their chest & back regularly, but pits and legs are a totally different story. Plus, still living with my parents, they think its wierd to shave anything but my face.They would definitely question me if I started shaving anywhere else.

Alice B
06-20-2007, 12:40 PM
I have very blond body hair. I shave my legs and my wife is OK with that. She is not OK with my shaving my arms, but does not seem to notice that I keep my chest shaved. I'm sure it varies from woman to woman, but I think most woman like a certain amount of body hair to run their hands through. Especially the arms.:happy:

Alice Torn
06-20-2007, 11:52 PM
I have dark hair on my chest, and back, and under arms, blonde hair, thin, on lower legs, and lower arms (German/ Irish mix?) I was kept away from girls, as a boy, was nervous around ones I thought were pretty, did not have a date, unti well into 20's. First girl acquaintance died at 21 of overdose, dated a lot in my 30's, almost all 12-20 years older, than me. None, except one, considered any possibility of serious relationship, but, I was too poor, to provide, for her, and her kids. I am 53, saddened by no dating possibilities, and knowing I may never get to marry. I rent a room from a female, with a mustache, who has little to do with either sex, just likes to be with animals. She has a darker mustache than me! I go to a church, which exalts marriage, and having kids, so, old bachelors, are not respected. Cross dressers , forget it. Sorry I got off the topic a lot. Lots of chest, back hair, under arms, on forearms, little o legs, little on top. I like the comment on hair migration! It seems like God, or natures, little practical joke!!!

Sharon B.
06-21-2007, 07:35 AM
I just turned fifty-three and I still can't grow sideburns, shave my face every other day. It takes over two months for any body hair to grow back to be noticeably on my body after removing it all. The hair on top of my head is the only thing that grow thick and I only get it cut every four months just so I feel like I am getting my money's worth.

Karren H
06-21-2007, 09:02 AM
I don't equate natural lack of body hair with "feminine" characteristics.

I agree... I get to see a lot of naked guys on a weekly basis.. In the locker room at the ice rink,, (whooo peee!!! Lol). And there are extremely masciline guys with very little body hair and very petiet femish built guys that look like a Sasquatch...

And except for me having to fuzz my legs up for the summer male shorts season, my wife could care less how much hair I have or don't have....

Plain_Ole_Karren

SANDRA MICHELLE
06-21-2007, 11:30 AM
I'm not real hairy but have more than I care to have and need to shave my face daily. I shave my chest evry day just to keep it smooth, the wife likes hairy chest but gives me this since she knows of my desire for bigger female looking breast. I don't think there is much relationship with charecteristics and hair, everybody seems to be differant enough to not lay claim to a pattern