The strangest request........

[Lovely Rita]

I know that we are unconventional to say the leaste. Crossdressing is not what would be categorized as very conventional yet, that is.

I know we tread where many have not gone before. We run into all kinds of colorful people. We are all quite different even in our own ways aside from our common interest. We have all had different and varied experiences with regard to our very uncommon practices. I bet many of us have been hit on and have heard all kinds of lewd things. I know I have.

Here is the strangest request I have yet received and it is not dirty but just different.
Someone asked if they could buy my used pantyhose.

I am not selling any used pantyhose so that takes care of that but I have to say it was a strange one for me.

Do you have any strange requests that are printable of course we do not want to give the moderators too much trouble.

I am not sure if this thread will be around. I just thought it would be interesting to share.

[Cai]

Well, I think I might let Das come share his story from earlier over in the FTM board...:D

[Fab Karen]

Well, GG's hear those kinds of requests all the time, so consider it a sign of success.:D

[Lovely Rita]

Well, I think I might let Das come share his story from earlier over in the FTM board...:D

Hi24home, I will look forward to hearing about it.


Well, GG's hear those kinds of requests all the time, so consider it a sign of success.:D


Fab Karen, honestly, I was not aware that GGs would get a request like the one I just mentioned. Sorry to be so naive. I know it is a sign for something:heehee:

Thanks for sharing

[Emilia]

Hhmmm... I think I'm usually the one making the odd requests :shush:

[Katrina]

I can't believe that you won't sell me your used pantyhose... ;)

[sterling12]

I've read most of your posts Rita. If he would have requested used stockings rather than PH, might have been a different story! (LOL)

Actually, it always amazes me how "forward" some people can be. I really doubt many guys would have the nerve to ask a GG for used undergarments, but they will ask us. And ladies, if he did ask.....it should be Dump City!

I would chock it up to bad technique. Don't feel too bad, I had one I'd just met, who wanted to "paint my toenails and suck on my piggies." This is why I stay out of most chatrooms and sleazy bars!

Peace and Love, Joanie

[Dixie]

I had a guy ask me to ummmm,.....soil my panties with my, ummmmm you know ...love juice and he would buy them from me for 100 dollars, and he did this right in front of my wife who told him to go to H***! Really Really out there, and kinda scary. My wife is native american and said that he could use it to witch me. I don't think that's what it was about but still SCARY anyway.

[Katrina]

I had a guy ask me to ummmm,.....soil my panties with my, ummmmm you know ...love juice and he would buy them from me for 100 dollars, and he did this right in front of my wife who told him to go to H***! Really Really out there, and kinda scary. My wife is native american and said that he could use it to witch me. I don't think that's what it was about but still SCARY anyway.

That's just gross! Bleh!

[karynspanties]

I had a guy ask me to ummmm,.....soil my panties with my, ummmmm you know ...love juice and he would buy them from me for 100 dollars, and he did this right in front of my wife who told him to go to H***! Really Really out there, and kinda scary. My wife is native american and said that he could use it to witch me. I don't think that's what it was about but still SCARY anyway.

HAHAHAHAHA, that's too funny! Right in front of your wife ?!?! Some poeple! But on the other hand, $100.......and the price of gas.......Oh, I am just being a bad gurl again.:devil:

[Dasein9]

Well, I think I might let Das come share his story from earlier over in the FTM board...:D

Ahem.... "Let"?


Eh, ladies, I was in boots, jeans, a red striped poplin button-down shirt, and a corduroy blazer on Wednesday. Was meeting a friend in the Village, and arrived early. I leaned against a lamppost in the shade and smoked a cigarette. After a few minutes, an older man in a cheap suit and a wedding ring came up and asked me, "How much for a couple of hours?"

I'm sorry to report that I did not have a clever response handy. It was more blushing and stuttering and glancing at the nearby cop.

[Emily Ann Brown]

Rita Rita Rita....


You are so naive. And I love it. (That was DEFINITELY a dirty request sis)


Emily Ann

[Denielleinheels]

I have had some requests but have never obliged them. I was offered $300 for an outfit I wore and pictures of me in it. Flattering I guess but he was a slime ball.

[LindaTS]

This kind of thing only happened to me once. Some guy wanted to buy my used heels and I chose to deny his request.

[sandy_folsom]

Hmm.. I guess it's the engineer in me when my first reaction is - "Cool! More spending money for clothes!"

[MsJanessa]

I couldn't begin to tell you girls about the odd sexual requests I've encountered---many are just a little different but some are absolutly outre and more than a little disgusting.

[bredalee25]

The only request I ever got was to model certain outfits and send pics to them. It was harmless no face shots so i sent them now he has become a trusted friend with whom i've built a strong friendship. In fact his advice is as good as it gets in my current situation.

ttfn

[maria p]

My ex husband had lots of requests like that because he had a Yahoo Blog and membership of other sites in order to have seedy cyber sex with other men, so I can quite believe an innocent like you gets approached in such a sexual way when obviously you did nothing to lead the man on

[TxKimberly]

Hmm.. I guess it's the engineer in me when my first reaction is - "Cool! More spending money for clothes!"

I have to admit I'm with Sandy! I think it's gross, but HE is the one with the problem and $100 would buy a damn fine pair of shoes! :-)

All right, all right - rethunk this one! I couldn't do it either!

Kim

[StephanieH]

:drink: No kidding, not making this up, back when eBay first got rolling they didn't police the site like they do today. You used to find just about anything there. One day, a co-worker told me to type in a search for "used panties" on eBay. I did, and honestly, there were something like over a thousand listings! And the prices were crazy high! There were all kinds of pics of supposed "college girls" and such selling their dirty undies to help finance their education. It was hysterical!

Nowadays, they don't allow that stuff on there, or much of anything that could be deemed even remotely offensive, but it struck me how much of a market there was for used undies! And apparently, the serious pervs have a lot of money! :happy:

[SherriePall]

As this is the only forum I belong to, the only requests I get are to not post replies to threads. Oh, and one request from my wife: not to wear her wedding gown out grocery shopping. Only kidding!

[AshleyLove]

:drink: No kidding, not making this up, back when eBay first got rolling they didn't police the site like they do today. You used to find just about anything there. One day, a co-worker told me to type in a search for "used panties" on eBay. I did, and honestly, there were something like over a thousand listings! And the prices were crazy high! There were all kinds of pics of supposed "college girls" and such selling their dirty undies to help finance their education. It was hysterical!

Nowadays, they don't allow that stuff on there, or much of anything that could be deemed even remotely offensive, but it struck me how much of a market there was for used undies! And apparently, the serious pervs have a lot of money! :happy:


I forgot what TV show it was (maybe Insomniac); but in a Japanese city, the host visited this guy's house that had TONS of used panties for sale with a photo of the girl who was supposed to be the original owner. Very strange..

[battybattybats]

Hey, we're pervs to some.
So lets try and see there side for a moment. They have this sexual craving, one that clearly isn't understood, isn't accepted by most of society and clearly must be difficult to fulfill.
It must be rather difficult to obtain that which they need and that at least I can easily empathise with. Were you, or others on this site, the likely people to make that request of? Clearly not in this case but we shouldn't condemn the requester outright, there might be others here overjoyed to fulfil that request. Are there better places to find people able and willing to fulifill that request? I'd rather not look for myself but I'm sure that if not that someone could make an aweful lot of money making such a place.
Now making sexual requests of people you don't know who haven't made it clear that they are open to such requests is a little rude so I'd advise said person to try and improve their judgement for who to ask, random stabs in the dark clearly isn't the best way to go about this and could upset a lot of folks along the way.

[marie354]

Oh Rita... Every time that I think that I've it all, I learn that I never will.
I've know some women that have told me of requests for their panties, but pantyhose... That's a new one.
:404::rofl:
:hugs:

[EricaCD]

I couldn't begin to tell you girls about the odd sexual requests I've encountered---many are just a little different but some are absolutly outre and more than a little disgusting.

Yep. This sounds familiar. Weird because other than being a CD I have to figure I am about the most boring fem persona on earth. But some of the things I have gotten, unsolicited, in Yahoo IM and email...

The weirdest by far was a CD admirer who wanted to do my laundry for me. Assured me that nothing would go missing and he would not "misbehave" with any of it - he was especially clear about that. But he wanted me to bring all my fem clothes to him and he would clean and iron them. While I was flattered by the request (and by the idea of having ironed clothes!) I figured it would be best to decline.

OTOH, as BBB said above: if it's between consenting adults, why not? Personally I find the OPU (other people's undies) fascination a little perplexing, but I just spent the evening comparing eyeliners. So who am I to say?

Erica

[Lovely Rita]

I have never pronounced judgment on this person and do not belittle them for their request. I only thought it was a strange request. I for one cannot cast any stones but I did think it would be interesting to share. This person is not diminished as a human being in my eyes, at leaste, in any way.

For the record.

[sandy_folsom]

I forgot what TV show it was (maybe Insomniac); but in a Japanese city, the host visited this guy's house that had TONS of used panties for sale with a photo of the girl who was supposed to be the original owner. Very strange..

I was in an adult bookstore in Oregon which had an on-premise strip club. They had a vending machine where one could buy the stripper's used panties.

There's also a write-up in snopes.com (so it's gotta be true. :))
http://www.snopes.com/risque/kinky/panties.htm

[Annesah]

This is cool! While I like all panty threads I must say that this has much more depth than most! :tongueout

[Becky Moore]

Sorry, but I disagree, you don't find what this person was suggesting was "dirty". I might be transgendered, but I have morals and someone suggesting that i send him underwear that I have worn is disgusting and I would certainly not go on web sites like that, I like friends, but mine treat me with respect. This man was being disrespectful to you and you don't mind? We are often discriminated against by other people, at least let us respect ourselves, you should have told him he was a dirty pervert and you might crossdress, but you are like any other human being who needs to be treated with respect and dignity!

[lucy Boo]

Agree totally Becky, What are we as a group? yes we accept diversity, we constantly justify ourselves and now we put up with disgusting suggestions and treat them as nothing more than "strange". What this suggests to me is that there are people who view us as less than human and we, need as a group to stand up and identify this suggestion for what it was. Unless Rita was on a web site catering into this sort of thing or this is what she is into herself, then this person had no right to treat her like that. Have love and respect for yourself and don't put up with it

[Roxi Loh]

Yes but none that I could repeat here...

[maria p]

I have never pronounced judgment on this person and do not belittle them for their request. I only thought it was a strange request. I for one cannot cast any stones but I did think it would be interesting to share. This person is not diminished as a human being in my eyes, at leaste, in any way.

For the record.

As a women if someone had made that "request" I would not engage with them. The person is not" diminished in your eyes", why not? I don't know what the pre-amble was, but he certainly assumed that as a man dressed as a women, you were diminished enough in his eyes, else he would not have made such a sordid request. It wasn't strange, it was a stereotypical assumption that you were some little trollop and he could subject to his own perverted standards. Rita, I have read many of your posts about your inner turmoil and struggle to love yourself, but respecting yourself to know when you have been belittled is as just as important. This wasn't strange, it was disgusting and the man making the request would have known in no uncertain terms that his pevertion was not welcome.

[battybattybats]

Sigh.
I'll put my morality up against the pope, the dalai lama and mother teresa.
There was, and let me make this clear, nothing morally wrong with this persons request, nothing demeaning, dehumanising or degrading.

I shall explain.
Firstly social mores, the standard of morality of the greatest common denominator is clearly evil as it has justified every abuse of human rights known to man and so is totally invalid.
Secondly in any society including democracy and freedom of religion no religious based edict of morality is applicable to persons outside that particular faith so it too is useless as a measure of morality. Yet fair and decent standards can be determined based on simple principles.

Did this person assume that all CDs are worthless? Clearly not as this person coveted something of a cd suggesting that cd's are in fact exalted by this person or at least a fiation of desire. Now no mension has been made that this person assumed that his request would be granted, it was merely a request.

Should people whose desires are less common be forced underground into a hidden world away from others.. umm clearly anyone here who thinks so needs to remember the word hypocrit. Any argument that it's disgusting because it is sexual degrades human sexuality, because it is different demeans human diversity because it goes against public taste.. we wear dresses... glass houses.. stones? Hello?

Can we say that this persons desires are wrong in a way that is different from ours? Do they concern only consenting sane adult humans capable of making informed consent? As much as can be reasonably assertained the answer is yes. Therefore they are not wrong.

Is it wrong to judge the ethical (as determined by the above paragraph)sexuality of someone else because it is different and distasteful to the individual? Yes, it clearly is because that is applying a subjective taste and is therefore very much wrong.

Was it rude or wrong of this person to make the request? Well it's hard to judge on the little information given but the chances are reasonable if there was no sounding of such matters beforehand. Yet, as it would be difficult to sound ou such matters beforehand and it would be difficult to make such a request in a way that some might consider rude then that is not neccessarily wrong. It's like a socially awkward person coming on too strong when trying to ask someone out and considering the lack of acceptance involved who would not be awkward making that kind of request?

Moral arguments need a strong rational and consistent foundation or they are simply conformist excuses for ignorant bigotry and mediocre declamations of the unusual.

[Katrina]

I'm not going to get into the this is wrong/this is ok argument. I have a funny story though.

Back in college, my buddies and I shared an apartment that had three units in it. We were on the bottom floor and there were a set of girls going to another school upstairs from us. We had a group of friends living next door as well.

One day, some of the girls were down in our living room hanging out. Two of the neighbor guys thought these girls were hot - they didn't really do much for the rest of us though. Well, when the girls left, these two neighbors got up from their chairs and went over to sniff the cushion that the girls were sitting on. We were stunned, to say the least. One of the guys said he could tell if a girl or a guy had been sitting in a chair just by smell. We had a good laugh, but I couldn't stop thinking about what the girls would have thought if they knew these guys did that.

[maria p]

[QUOTE=battybattybats;896484]Sigh.
I'll put my morality up against the pope, the dalai lama and mother teresa.
There was, and let me make this clear, nothing morally wrong with this persons request, nothing demeaning, dehumanising or degrading.

There are many sites he could have used and maybe I am wrong, but Rita was probably on a crossdressers site, so why make the suggestion there?
Crossdressers have an hard enough time with people thinking they are gay or families saying that theyre keeping the children from them because of stereotypical attitudes that are fed by people accepting degrading treatment because they are different. As a women who respects herself if you walked up to me and made that request you would be walking like John Wayne regardless if your Mother Teressa or not

[maria p]

Thank you Battybattybats!!!

Thank you for the clear, detailed and logical argument.

I completely share your point of view.

I give up, okay then anyone should be able to make any suggestion to a person who crossdresses because we should respect that persons right to express themselves. Forgive me but are there not certain morals and laws that protect people? Why should someone be exposed to sordid suggestions because they dress in womens clothing? If Rita on a web site that catered to that, then no problem, if Rita lead the guy on no problem, but if it was just someone getting their jollies from Rita's obvious reaction, then that is wrong!

[Lovely Rita]

QUOTE=Becky Moore;896009]Sorry, but I disagree, you don't find what this person was suggesting was "dirty". I might be transgendered, but I have morals and someone suggesting that i send him underwear that I have worn is disgusting and I would certainly not go on web sites like that, I like friends, but mine treat me with respect. This man was being disrespectful to you and you don't mind? We are often discriminated against by other people, at least let us respect ourselves, you should have told him he was a dirty pervert and you might crossdress, but you are like any other human being who needs to be treated with respect and dignity![/QUOTE]

Firstly, thank you for your opinion on the matter.

Respectfully, I believe you are assuming a little since you do not know if the request did not come from someone on this web site. I have responded to the person in question in the manner I saw fit to respond and I no longer tell some one what others think I should tell them but what I feel I need to tell them..

I agree with you that we all need to be respected.

I don't easily call someone a pervert anymore because of how our group is classified as pervert by society at large. My definition of perversion is used more for those who hurt others and harm children.

I am glad that I am not asking anyone for their pantyhose but I am also not making him a monster for asking.

Thanks again for sharing your views:love:

[Lovely Rita]

Agree totally Becky, What are we as a group? yes we accept diversity, we constantly justify ourselves and now we put up with disgusting suggestions and treat them as nothing more than "strange". What this suggests to me is that there are people who view us as less than human and we, need as a group to stand up and identify this suggestion for what it was. Unless Rita was on a web site catering into this sort of thing or this is what she is into herself, then this person had no right to treat her like that. Have love and respect for yourself and don't put up with it


Hi Lucy Boo, thank you for sharing your views on the topic. You also are assuming that the request did not come from this web site and you should not.

Our little social club has been referred to as perverted to often for me to throw that word around so lightly. I refrain from passing judgment on the person at this time.

I agree with you that it is important to love and respect ourselves, and I believe I do. The request was strange but I was not horrified by it. To pretend so would be hypocritical on my part. Does this mean I do not respect myself. I don't think so. Telling the person that I would not comply with their request in a reasonable manner, I believe, goes much farther in bringing dignity to ourselves than calling them names like pervert etc.

I have heard requests that I cannot repeat here and I have also addressed them properly to my satisfaction.

Thank you once again for sharing your views that is what I really enjoy about this forum:D

[Lovely Rita]

Sigh.
I'll put my morality up against the pope, the dalai lama and mother teresa.
There was, and let me make this clear, nothing morally wrong with this persons request, nothing demeaning, dehumanising or degrading.

I shall explain.
Firstly social mores, the standard of morality of the greatest common denominator is clearly evil as it has justified every abuse of human rights known to man and so is totally invalid.
Secondly in any society including democracy and freedom of religion no religious based edict of morality is applicable to persons outside that particular faith so it too is useless as a measure of morality. Yet fair and decent standards can be determined based on simple principles.

Did this person assume that all CDs are worthless? Clearly not as this person coveted something of a cd suggesting that cd's are in fact exalted by this person or at least a fiation of desire. Now no mension has been made that this person assumed that his request would be granted, it was merely a request.

Should people whose desires are less common be forced underground into a hidden world away from others.. umm clearly anyone here who thinks so needs to remember the word hypocrit. Any argument that it's disgusting because it is sexual degrades human sexuality, because it is different demeans human diversity because it goes against public taste.. we wear dresses... glass houses.. stones? Hello?

Can we say that this persons desires are wrong in a way that is different from ours? Do they concern only consenting sane adult humans capable of making informed consent? As much as can be reasonably assertained the answer is yes. Therefore they are not wrong.

Is it wrong to judge the ethical (as determined by the above paragraph)sexuality of someone else because it is different and distasteful to the individual? Yes, it clearly is because that is applying a subjective taste and is therefore very much wrong.

Was it rude or wrong of this person to make the request? Well it's hard to judge on the little information given but the chances are reasonable if there was no sounding of such matters beforehand. Yet, as it would be difficult to sound ou such matters beforehand and it would be difficult to make such a request in a way that some might consider rude then that is not neccessarily wrong. It's like a socially awkward person coming on too strong when trying to ask someone out and considering the lack of acceptance involved who would not be awkward making that kind of request?

Moral arguments need a strong rational and consistent foundation or they are simply conformist excuses for ignorant bigotry and mediocre declamations of the unusual.

I really enjoyed reading your well thought out post on the subject.:thumbsup:

I have nothing else to add, but we can all think about how some of us because of what we do can be called perverts by others.

I will not cast the first stone that easily:love:

[maria p]

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I don't easily call someone a pervert anymore because of how our group is classified as pervert by society at large. My definition of perversion is used more for those who hurt others and harm children. .

If then your definition is used for those who hurt others, then what you are suggesting is this man knew that you would not be hurt by this suggestion and there must have been some pre-amble. I think if I then use your classification he is a pervert to me because I would be hurt by such comments.

[Lovely Rita]

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I don't easily call someone a pervert anymore because of how our group is classified as pervert by society at large. My definition of perversion is used more for those who hurt others and harm children. .

If then your definition is used for those who hurt others, then what you are suggesting is this man knew that you would not be hurt by this suggestion and there must have been some pre-amble. I think if I then use your classification he is a pervert to me because I would be hurt by such comments.

You have every right to classify this person how ever you want. I have chosen not to use that terminology on the person in question which is also my perogative. I am happy that the request did not come to you and that you were not hurt by it. I can appreciate your sensitivities on the matter though, as everyone is different.

If in preamble you mean dialogue on the matter before hand? No.

Thanks again for sharing your view on the matter:D

[MsJanessa]

well since We are talking about this I used to have this--uhhmm "slave" whose sole request was to clean My apartment---including doing the dishes which I absolutly hate to do----he would come over, put on a maids oufit, spend an hour or so(it wasn't a very big place) and leave the apartment spotless----if there is something immoral or unethical about that then I really can't see it. I suppose that to some anything that people do, no matter how innocous or harmless, that sexually turns them on is immoral. I'm not in that boat however

[Sallee]

It was definately a strange request Did he say how much he would pay. And you did not have to have any kind of contact other than email. Sell him some nice old well used run panty hose. As long as the money is good. What the heck new panty hose is expensive

[Katrina]

well since We are talking about this I used to have this--uhhmm "slave" whose sole request was to clean My apartment---including doing the dishes which I absolutly hate to do----he would come over, put on a maids oufit, spend an hour or so(it wasn't a very big place) and leave the apartment spotless----if there is something immoral or unethical about that then I really can't see it. I suppose that to some anything that people do, no matter how innocous or harmless, that sexually turns them on is immoral. I'm not in that boat however

That's a great idea! I'm going to get me some leather clothes and have have a guy come clean my house for me. That way, my SO and I can relax. Maybe I can even get someone who is into that and will pay ME to allow him to do it??? Should I advertise in the yellow pages?

[TxKimberly]

I think perhaps some are missing the point that others have made. Most of the world considers US to be perverts. I think the idea of getting someones used panties or nylons is pretty disgusting, BUT . . . If I want the world to accept ME and what I do, then I must be willing to accept the quirks of others. It's called leading by example, and not being a hypocrite.
So, while I think it's pretty disgusting, I'm gonna say each to their own, and go on about my business.

There's my two cents!
Kim

[maria p]

I think perhaps some are missing the point that others have made. Most of the world considers US to be perverts. I think the idea of getting someones used panties or nylons is pretty disgusting, BUT . . . If I want the world to accept ME and what I do, then I must be willing to accept the quirks of others. It's called leading by example, and not being a hypocrite.
So, while I think it's pretty disgusting, I'm gonna say each to their own, and go on about my business.

There's my two cents!
Kim

I totally agree, where concenting adults make a choice, then it is their business and I will take back the word" pervert" If someone chooses to clean someones flat and both get something out of it, then okay, I mind find it different,but they both maid ( excuse the pun) an informed choice. My point is Rita stated there was pre amble to the question, so the person had no right to make an assumption that just because he crossdresses that he obviously was up for something else. Yes people do treat human beings who crossdress as perverts, but don't accept it and this is precisely what the man did, yet you all turn round and say its okay, I guess crossdressers are labelled "perverts " by some people. It isnt okay, Rita did not concent to talk about this and its only his altruistic personality that stopped him being hurt by the comments. How many women in open dialogue would put up with this abuse? I wouldn't and you should not have to either

[battybattybats]

The person might want/need CD used clothing though. I don't think that they assumed that all CD's were perverts and I don't see that a person being female, TS CD or male makes a difference.

This person might not have gone about making the request very well perhaps but still I don't see how this can be constituted as abuse.

It's just freedom of speech. If saying things that might offend constitutes abuse then I have a very, very long list of people I need to kick in the gonads...

[maria p]

The person might want/need CD used clothing though. I don't think that they assumed that all CD's were perverts and I don't see that a person being female, TS CD or male makes a difference.

This person might not have gone about making the request very well perhaps but still I don't see how this can be constituted as abuse.

It's just freedom of speech. If saying things that might offend constitutes abuse then I have a very, very long list of people I need to kick in the gonads...

This discussion has been most insightful and seeing as most of the people have thought along the same lines as you, Battybattybats, I bow to your greater insight. Two things though, where did ms Janessa get the maid from and did he pay to clean the place? secondly, how much do used ladies tights fetch on the open market? Only both ideas sound an interesting way of boosting funds hehe

[Dixie]

Last night I am telling my wife about this thread. We end up going to an adult bookstore and they have a sign that says "$5.oo off any purchase in excange for your panties." My wife as we are at the counter and see another sign says allright give him your panties. The guy actually did a double take, and he was the owner. My wife said that that look was priceless that we actually shocked the owner of an adult bookstore.

[battybattybats]

Now that gave me a massive fit of laughter!

Excellent!

The closest thing to that I ever did was In male mode when I picked up a pizza in a top hat, velvet cloak, frilly shirt, green satin roseprint vest, knee-high boots etc.. the business suited man next to me glanced.. there was a momentary pause as it sunk in and then a double take so fast I'm sure he hurt his neck!

[KewTnCurvy GG]

Hey, we're pervs to some.

You say that like it's a bad thing.
Kew

[tiffianycd]

I have not been asked for my undergarments or any of my personal iteams yet but one thing I will tell you perves are evrywhere buying and stealing undergarments where they can find them. few years back a guy had gotten busted for burgely and when the ploice went to his garage.. they have found it loaded with stolen womens undergarments. he claimed he was going to open up a used clothing store found out latter they where mostly 3/4 was stolen from neighbors cloths lines and right out or their homes.he had been doing this or years. what a perve.
I would not sell my ph or panties unless I sold them at a gradge sell lol.

[battybattybats]

Hmm.. it could be argued though that the people who sell their panties give the panty fetishests an ethical way to obtain their clothes.
And.. seeing as most of us steal or borrow without permission the clothes of others when we first discover our nature isn't it a bit like the pot and the kettle?

I suspect that the beginnings of guilt for many of us come from such raiding of the washing basket or wardrobe of our relatives etc. At some point we tend to become so concerned about the wrongness of this or suddenly realise the wrongness of it that we then go and start obtaining it ethically by purchasing the femme gear. I'm sure that the numbers of us here that bought all the clothes we wore or had knowing permission to wear all of them are low.

Clearly it is important that these people stop stealing what they need and obtain it legitimatly.. which means that they need willing suppliers and the capacity to reach them. Being judged 'perverts' because their turn-on is less common than others is only going to drive them underground, cause them harm and ensure that they are likely to turn to theft or rude requests to get what they need.

Can't we just restrict our criticisms for those whose desires violate the rights of others? The ones who take advantage of those unable to give informed consent? The ones who act regardless of not obtaining consent? The ones who impose their tastes over the free exercise of legitimate freedom of others? Those are the ones who are doing wrong and should be criticised surely? (And yes I understand that panty theives and crossdressers borrowing without permission are doing wrong. They should stop as soon as they realise that and buy what they want.)

[sterling12]

I want to clarify something. For me, it's not the nature of the request, it's the lack of respect that is shown.

Earlier in This Thread, I related a story about a guy who just went right up and told me he wanted to paint my toenails and then suck on all my "piggies." We can safely say that's a somewhat unusual request, but that's not even the major issue. At least not for me.

A "Gentleman," or just about any other person, does not make these kind of requests to someone, no matter how needful! It's crude, tacky, disrespectful, and shows ignorance, or a total lack of empathy and understanding. It makes no difference whether the comment is said to a GG, A CD, A TS, another man, or whomever, it's still tasteless.

If this is a situation with two people who are very close and longtime friends, maybe that's a different situation. I guess there can always be exceptions to any generality. However, for all these "needful" guys who want to buy used underwear, just go on Ebay, and quit hittin' up on Gurl's like me. You'll find plenty of that stuff available and plenty of people willing to sell it to you. Please don't bug me with your inappropriate, unsolicited, requests, I will react in a negative way. Just like I did with the guy who wanted to suck my toes!


Rita originally asked what kind of strange requests we might have received. I think her intent was to elicit some sort of fun stories. I thought my story fit that category because of the outrageousness and bad timing of the guy's request. Still think it does.

Peace and Love, Joanie

[Lovely Rita]

I want to clarify something. For me, it's not the nature of the request, it's the lack of respect that is shown.

Earlier in This Thread, I related a story about a guy who just went right up and told me he wanted to paint my toenails and then suck on all my "piggies." We can safely say that's a somewhat unusual request, but that's not even the major issue. At least not for me.

A "Gentleman," or just about any other person, does not make these kind of requests to someone, no matter how needful! It's crude, tacky, disrespectful, and shows ignorance, or a total lack of empathy and understanding. It makes no difference whether the comment is said to a GG, A CD, A TS, another man, or whomever, it's still tasteless.

If this is a situation with two people who are very close and longtime friends, maybe that's a different situation. I guess there can always be exceptions to any generality. However, for all these "needful" guys who want to buy used underwear, just go on Ebay, and quit hittin' up on Gurl's like me. You'll find plenty of that stuff available and plenty of people willing to sell it to you. Please don't bug me with your inappropriate, unsolicited, requests, I will react in a negative way. Just like I did with the guy who wanted to suck my toes!


Rita originally asked what kind of strange requests we might have received. I think her intent was to elicit some sort of fun stories. I thought my story fit that category because of the outrageousness and bad timing of the guy's request. Still think it does.

Peace and Love, Joanie

Sterling, as you said, I did think it could be interesting to hear back regarding strange requests but in many cases the thread hit some raw nerves which was not the intent and I can appreciate and respect everyone's feelings on the matter. I always appreciate what a person trully feels or believes. How can I not? If I wish to be treated the same way.:love:

[TracyH]

If someone were to befriend me for any amount of time before asking for my dirty underthings, they would have a goldmine of used panties. Heck, I would even work out in them before sending them. Unfortunately, every time I've had a request, it was by someone I didn't know, and as soon as I turned them down they would race off, apparently to pester the next crossdresser on the list for their used panties.

It makes me kinda feel used.

Out of all the people I've ever met online, only two have remained my friend long enough to get their requests fulfilled. Both of them I still talk to on a regular basis.

[JennyEire]

I've occasionally dressed/posed and taken photos for people I've met online. One guy wanted me to pee in my tights and send him pics. I didn't do that. :straightface:

No-one has offered to buy my used pantyhose but I've had swaps proposed once or twice...

[Fab Karen]

The person might want/need CD used clothing though. I don't think that they assumed that all CD's were perverts and I don't see that a person being female, TS CD or male makes a difference.


As Batty's pointing out, quite likely the guy did not assume anything about Batty/CD's, he just randomly targeted Batty because she fit the category the guy was looking for ( a CD in this case ).

[Dasein9]

Wow.

Correct me if I'm wrong, please, but if I understand correctly, some people here are ticked off that there are people out there who find CD's sexy? I don't find it demeaning to be found sexy, as a general rule. While I don't understand the desire for used panties, I also don't think it's anything dangerous or dehumanising.

In addition, I'm a poor grad student, and, quite frankly, probably would sell my used undershorts, were I to receive an offer that made it worth my while to get a PO box. Heck, I've recently lost a lot of weight, and there's a whole stack of shorts I paid good money for on my dresser waiting to be used for boot polishing! If those could make me money, why the heck not?

[battybattybats]

For the record it wasn't me who received the request..
And as for 'gentlemanly' behaviour.. well that's a subjective thing and so impossible to apply a universal standard to. Some people are open to such requests, some aren't, some are in the right circumstances. People can't be certain so they make the most educated guess they can.. just like asking someone out.

[MsJanessa]

I understand some of the Ladies who are turned off by pushy obnoxious people---the kind who don't take no for an answer or will send you an e-mail asking for a date and you noticed that he has sent the same e-mail to a dozen other T-Girls----however I don't have any problem with someone who takes a direct approach with me, as long as they are respectful---I'm always flattered when some body finds Me sexually attractive and quite frankly if I'm attracted to them I prefer, at My age, not to beat around the bush. The quickest way to do that is to be up front with each other about wants and desires. Even if I don't find the person attractive, I'm always polite about turning them down---a "No thanks" is generally enough---for the rest there is always pepper spray--lol