FTM dating, GG Question only plz

[Kieron Andrew]

Like the title said im only really looking for GGs to respond to this question directly.......but other on-topic comments may be welcomed

Ok im curious about something, I was having a conversation with Tamara......and i was wondering out of those GGs that are out there that are dating MTFs or would date MTFs, would you date an FTM? would it appeal to you, would you actively look to date an FTM?, if you can expand on this question then please do so :).......

[Tamara Croft]

Good question, you know my answer already, seeing as we've spoke about it ;) but I'll elaborate here. Dating Tam made me curious about my own sexuality, am I straight, does dating a CD make me a lesbian etc... and through all this thinking, I've come to the conclusion, I've always been bi curious (other reasons for this too, which I won't divulge in an open forum :p ). So, to answer the question, I think if the right FTM came along, I think I would date him ;) if I wasn't with Tam of course.

[Country girl]

Hi Kieron, personally no. I am strictly a straight female. I didn't go looking for a CDer. I found out that my ex, [BTW his choice, not mine,] was a CDer a year and a half into the relationship. I respect all choices but not all choices are for me. To expand as you've asked, it is very simple, I am attracted to very macho larger built construction type guys. I've never had any desire to be with a woman or to experiment in any way. :hugs:CG gg

[Kieron Andrew]

Hi Kieron, personally no. I am strictly a straight female. I didn't go looking for a CDer. I found out that my ex, [BTW his choice, not mine,] was a CDer a year and a half into the relationship. I respect all choices but not all choices are for me. To expand as you've asked, it is very simple, I am attracted to very macho larger built construction type guys. I've never had any desire to be with a woman or to experiment in any way. :hugs:CG gg
thanks :):hugs:

[Kieron Andrew]

Good question, you know my answer already, seeing as we've spoke about it ;) but I'll elaborate here. Dating Tam made me curious about my own sexuality, am I straight, does dating a CD make me a lesbian etc... and through all this thinking, I've come to the conclusion, I've always been bi curious (other reasons for this too, which I won't divulge in an open forum :p ). So, to answer the question, I think if the right FTM came along, I think I would date him ;) if I wasn't with Tam of course.
Thanks Tamara for giving me the idea in the first place really!

[Sheila]

I like this question (though not at 6.49am:tongueout).

No in all honesty I would not look to date a F2M (nor ever another M2F).. heck I didn't look to date the M2F I am with ........ found out about it 2 1/2 years into the relationship :Angry3: I hate the deception and lies and deceipt that come with CDing (to their partners, families, friends and the world in general sorry), having said that I am still here after 10 months of knowing.

[Carolka GG]

:hmmm: It's the person themselves who would appeal to me - who not what.

:thinking:
While I don't think I would be actively seeking (see above), I'd be fine with what I found as long as I really liked the person.

Carolka

[Sandra]

Ok I do consider myself bi curious but with Nigella I don't consider myself a lesbian because the relationship is male and female.

Would I seek out an FtM relationship? to be honest the thought has never crossed my mind but as Carolka has said "it would be the person themselves who would appeal to me" and if that person was FtM then it would be a case of see what happens.

[Tree GG]

I didn't consciously go looking for any particular lifestyle type when I was dating way back when. I just examined the choices that presented themselves in my path. Wasn't looking for TG, Ultra-macho, ultra-fem or anything. I dated little, frail looking guys; huge, Bubu type guys; and many in between.

The only common denominator is that they were guys. So I guess I'm confident and comfortable in my hetero-sexuality. Along that logic, I'm pretty confident that if I were in the dating market, I wouldn't look for a relationship with FTM, MTF or otherwise. Any male (genetic or not) that became present in my path would be considered if the physical, intellectual and humor chemistries clicked. Knowing what I know now, I would certainly be aware of the possibility and probably ask the questions early on. :heehee: Now that could be tricky - how do you ask that question?!

I'm just glad I'm don't need to date - I feel way too old for that. :p

[Di]

Not single..... As in a what if situation...
I never look at gender anymore....haven't for many years ......gender for me doesn't enter the equasion.There has to be that click.....And I wrote this in the attraction thread in m2f last week....applys here too.


We fall in love with someone’s soul, And We fall in love with their heart. With their inner self.

[GACountrygal]

I guess I wouldnt count it out of the question to date a FtM. Its kinda hard to explain but I'll try and put it simple enough so that I dont sound like a confused dunce :heehee:

I'm bisexual, so it wouldnt bother me sexually (especially if the person hasnt had GRS).

I'm attracted to the very manly masculine type guys, and tomboy gals, so I would think a very masculine FtM would pique my interest.

But as others have said, it would be the person and who they are that that would "win me over" so to speak in the end.
(who they are not what they are, trans or otherwise :happy: )

Wonder if this makes sense to anyone but myself :heehee: hope so!!!

Oh, and I dont think I would actively seek a FtM for a partner (although if it were to happens, its one of those "take it as it comes go with the flow" thangs), but since I'm already married to my soulmate, I guess it makes me a bit biased on the question towards dating since dating is the last thing on my mind...

Wow, ok if yall aint totally confused now, I think I am :heehee:
:hugs::hugs:
Nic

[kittypw GG]

Let me attempt to articulate the feelings that I have on this subject.
I am a heterosexual women but I have a very open mind and an accepting spirit. I never set out to date a mtf cd but it sort of evolved in my relationship. I have been in love with a gay man. My best friend of 13 years would have been the man for me had he not been gay. He was not even close to being effeminate and no one every clocked him as a gay man but outside of the sexual preferance we were as close to solemates as you come. In fact people assumed that we were married. (he passed away 4 years ago of an aids related illness and I miss him terribly). I have said before that the more feminine my hubby looks the less I am attracted to him sexually. I love tall men with big arms, I love stocky men with big arms and I have a thing for bald men, in fact I think they are very hot.

Now would I date at ftm? Well I have stated before that recently I was at a drag show and there was a very handsome ftm there that I wanted to dance with and chickend out with the invitation. I found him very much a turn on. I also was watching a show that featured a lesbian couple where one of the partners came out as a ftm and let me tell you WOW. He was very handsome and one could not tell that he was previously a she. (his partner who was lesbian, was trying to be accepting and decided to stay in the relationship). I would imagine that her feelings towards her partner would be similiar to mine in that the more masculine he looked the more she had to adjust her sexual attraction.

If I were single and I had a call to meet a very hot ftm and we hit if off intellectually, HELL YEAH I would consider dating him. I don't think that notion would make me gay either because He is really a he and there are ways to handle the lack of certain piece of sexual equipment. Many women love men who are very underendowed and make it work. Before viagra, there were many couples choosing alternate forms of sexual contact and still do I guess.

For me (and maybe most people) the first draw to someone is looks, then the intellectual attraction, then love. I don't think that I would be closed to the idea. I think that some women would be hung up on the fact that it might make them gay. I can't say that I would consider myself totally straight given my current relationship so I am slowly rejecting the gay and straight labels and warming up to gender queer. I think that it better describes me if there is a need to. Some people who know me say there is no explaination for me. :D

Ok now my head is spinning. Hope this helps. :love: Kitty

[Kieron Andrew]

I didn't consciously go looking for any particular lifestyle type when I was dating way back when. I just examined the choices that presented themselves in my path. Wasn't looking for TG, Ultra-macho, ultra-fem or anything. I dated little, frail looking guys; huge, Bubu type guys; and many in between.

The only common denominator is that they were guys. So I guess I'm confident and comfortable in my hetero-sexuality. Along that logic, I'm pretty confident that if I were in the dating market, I wouldn't look for a relationship with FTM, MTF or otherwise. Any male (genetic or not) that became present in my path would be considered if the physical, intellectual and humor chemistries clicked. Knowing what I know now, I would certainly be aware of the possibility and probably ask the questions early on. :heehee: Now that could be tricky - how do you ask that question?!

I'm just glad I'm don't need to date - I feel way too old for that. :p


Happy so not looking.....but as in a what if situation...
I never look at gender anymore....haven't for many years gender doesn't enter the equation.There has to be that click.....And I wrote this in the attraction thread in m2f last week....applys here too.


We fall in love with someone’s soul, And We fall in love with their heart. With their inner self.


pocoyo,

I am sorry, I have so obviously read Kierons original question wrong, as a GG involved with a M2F dresser I thought he was referring to a F2M dresser as well ........ however I will clarify my original answer ......... No I would not Look to date A T/S T/G person ever again if anything happened to this relationship.

Poc I was referring to the lies and deceit that society forces on you ALL not the lies and deceit of CDR's themselves ...... again sorry:love:


I guess I wouldn't count it out of the question to date a FTM. Its kinda hard to explain but I'll try and put it simple enough so that I dont sound like a confused dunce :heehee:

I'm bisexual, so it wouldn't bother me sexually (especially if the person hasn't had GRS).

I'm attracted to the very manly masculine type guys, and tomboy gals, so I would think a very masculine FtM would pique my interest.

But as others have said, it would be the person and who they are that that would "win me over" so to speak in the end.
(who they are not what they are, trans or otherwise :happy: )

Wonder if this makes sense to anyone but myself :heehee: hope so!!!

Oh, and I dont think I would actively seek a FtM for a partner (although if it were to happens, its one of those "take it as it comes go with the flow" thangs), but since I'm already married to my soulmate, I guess it makes me a bit biased on the question towards dating since dating is the last thing on my mind...

Wow, ok if yall aint totally confused now, I think I am :heehee:
:hugs::hugs:
Nic


Let me attempt to articulate the feelings that I have on this subject.
I am a heterosexual women but I have a very open mind and an accepting spirit. I never set out to date a mtf cd but it sort of evolved in my relationship. I have been in love with a gay man. My best friend of 13 years would have been the man for me had he not been gay. He was not even close to being effeminate and no one every clocked him as a gay man but outside of the sexual preference we were as close to solemates as you come. In fact people assumed that we were married. (he passed away 4 years ago of an aids related illness and I miss him terribly). I have said before that the more feminine my hubby looks the less I am attracted to him sexually. I love tall men with big arms, I love stocky men with big arms and I have a thing for bald men, in fact I think they are very hot.

Now would I date at ftm? Well I have stated before that recently I was at a drag show and there was a very handsome ftm there that I wanted to dance with and chickened out with the invitation. I found him very much a turn on. I also was watching a show that featured a lesbian couple where one of the partners came out as a ftm and let me tell you WOW. He was very handsome and one could not tell that he was previously a she. (his partner who was lesbian, was trying to be accepting and decided to stay in the relationship). I would imagine that her feelings towards her partner would be similar to mine in that the more masculine he looked the more she had to adjust her sexual attraction.

If I were single and I had a call to meet a very hot ftm and we hit if off intellectually, HELL YEAH I would consider dating him. I don't think that notion would make me gay either because He is really a he and there are ways to handle the lack of certain piece of sexual equipment. Many women love men who are very underendowed and make it work. Before viagra, there were many couples choosing alternate forms of sexual contact and still do I guess.

For me (and maybe most people) the first draw to someone is looks, then the intellectual attraction, then love. I don't think that I would be closed to the idea. I think that some women would be hung up on the fact that it might make them gay. I can't say that I would consider myself totally straight given my current relationship so I am slowly rejecting the gay and straight labels and warming up to gender queer. I think that it better describes me if there is a need to. Some people who know me say there is no explanation for me.

Ok now my head is spinning. Hope this helps. :love: Kitty

Thank you ladies this is exactly what I was after

Just to clarify because i know what I was wanting to get from this thread, and i know people were unsure by the way I chose to write the question, *sorry for that* ,I was wondering how many GGs went for someone because of the gender they see, or the gender the person perceives to be......

I was wondering if gender mattered to GGs or if it was the soul that counted......and in that question I was including FTM TS's, FTM CD's, genderqueer that identify mainly as male......basically ANYONE that identified as FTM for whatever reason on our side of the spectrum, be it post op, pre-op, part time boys, full time boys! .......(I have always believe a person can not tell another person what gender they feel regardless of whether they choose to rectify that with surgery, and i know many boys that fit into one or another of these categories, because that is what they chose, some fit in to self defined ones not listed, some fit into more than one!)

It would be great to hear from more of the GGs out there, *youwhoooo I know you're out there*

[mylitta]

Well Kieron, short answer is: I don't know.
Slightly longer answer is that a year ago, I would have thought that a relationship with a CD was out of the question, and yet here I am, in a better relationship than I have ever been in. And one thing I have learned, or tried to learn in my life is never to say never, because you don't know what life has in store for you. So longer answer is, I still don't know: I'm obviously not looking now, but if I were single and I met someone to whom I was attracted mentally andd physically, would the fact of their being FTM or TS or CD put me off- depends on the strength of the attraction, I suppose......
Not a very conclusive answer, sorry

[dancinginthedark]

I am not dating currently Kieron, but I believe if I were looking I would definitely consider looking for a FTM partner. Seems to me most have a better handle on the whole male thing than most GB's do. Maybe it's the journey you all have to take to get there that makes you appreciate it all more. .....I dunno. :strugglin And I can't deny having a partner who was male [full or part time] but got the whole female thing would be a good thingy too. [No offense to the MTF in my family here, just an observation on a very personal level here.] Plus, it's been my experience if you love someone you see them with your heart. Doesn't matter much what anyone else thinks or sees then. Savvy? Bottom line I would not rule anyone out because of gender or gender presented either full time, part time or pre or post op. [jeez hope that came out right] It's the person...that core personality or soul if you will that you fall for. Hope that makes some sense. :confused: Easier to explain if we were talking in RL [well maybe :D ] or you all knew me better.

dancin

[Kieron Andrew]

I am not dating currently Kieron, but I believe if I were looking I would definitely consider looking for a FTM partner. Seems to me most have a better handle on the whole male thing than most GB's do. Maybe it's the journey you all have to take to get there that makes you appreciate it all more. .....I dunno. :strugglin And I can't deny having a partner who was male [full or part time] but got the whole female thing would be a good thingy too. [No offense to the MTF in my family here, just an observation on a very personal level here.] Plus, it's been my experience if you love someone you see them with your heart. Doesn't matter much what anyone else thinks or sees then. Savvy? Bottom line I would not rule anyone out because of gender or gender presented either full time, part time or pre or post op. [jeez hope that came out right] It's the person...that core personality or soul if you will that you fall for. Hope that makes some sense. :confused: Easier to explain if we were talking in RL [well maybe :D ] or you all knew me better.

dancin

Thanks Mae, what a wonderful thought out post :), yes it came out right :hugs:

[Tamara Croft]

I've deleted all the posts in this thread not relevant to the question, this is for GG's to post in.

[Kieron Andrew]

You know i get it alot from MTFs that they would date an FTM quite happily, but it is really refreshing to see for those boys that are into GGs (me being one of them) that some ladies wont discount us due to wrong plumbing/no chest surgery or not on Testosterone yet.....or for even those that are not going down the surgery/testosterone path, or however they identify in their male selves.....Its nice to see there are some openminded GG's around :).....

[dancinginthedark]

[...] some ladies wont discount us due to wrong plumbing[...] or for even those that are not going down the surgery/testosterone path, or however they identify in their male selves.[...]

OKay. One last point. [maybe] Forgive me for sounding crude but since does having an erection or even a penis equate being a male?? :confused: [ Yep I have taken a single comment out of many by Kieron to address] I can't understand that kind of thinking by folks. Maybe I just have gotten mature enough to see more in folks than their plumbing. Lots of men no longer have that bit still functioning [sexually speaking]. So I hope more women [& men] can see we are not just the sum of our bodies. I know Kieron gets this point so I am writing more to explain more what I think...if you can call sometimes rambling thoughts explanation. lol

Hate to think of a wife/gf/life partner coming into a hospital room [for example] after an accident and telling the newly paralyzed guy. "So you can't get a erection anymore huh?," as she slowly shakes her head. "Guess you know what that means...I don't love you anymore" Jeez love and for that matter love making means so much more. Making love can start hours or even days before it cumulates. It's found in a look or a gentle touch, it's in words, our actions and life's shared. Yes expressing it physically is wonderful. But in reality it may or may not end up in IC. Sex/making love isn't just IC. [having a penis] And I think if folks really thought about that more would know & see the potential for love in more places. [My apologies to my more sensitive family members for any offensive/off color comments] Sorry if taken to far off topic for some.

Mae

[Kieron Andrew]

OKay. One last point. [maybe] Forgive me for sounding crude but since does having an erection or even a penis equate being a male?? :confused: [ Yep I have taken a single comment out of many by Kieron to address] I can't understand that kind of thinking by folks. Maybe I just have gotten mature enough to see more in folks than their plumbing. Lots of men no longer have that bit still functioning [sexually speaking]. So I hope more women [& men] can see we are not just the sum of our bodies. I know Kieron gets this point so I am writing more to explain more what I think...if you can call sometimes rambling thoughts explanation. lol

Hate to think of a wife/gf/life partner coming into a hospital room [for example] after an accident and telling the newly paralyzed guy. "So you can't get a erection anymore huh?," as she slowly shakes her head. "Guess you know what that means...I don't love you anymore" Jeez love and for that matter love making means so much more. Making love can start hours or even days before it cumulates. It's found in a look or a gentle touch, it's in words, our actions and life's shared. Yes expressing it physically is wonderful. But in reality it may or may not end up in IC. Sex/making love isn't just IC. [having a penis] And I think if folks really thought about that more would know & see the potential for love in more places. [My apologies to my more sensitive family members for any offensive/off color comments] Sorry if taken to far off topic for some.

Mae

again another excellent post Mae :)......its happens though doesnt :)....narrowminded, shallow people that think sex is the be all and end all of the relationship or person that they are with :), and i dont think this is offtopic i believe its all relevent to how others see transmen and transwomen for that matter actually

[Kieron Andrew]

The really has become an educational thread thanks to all the girls that have responded so far

[Ashleigh GG]

OMG Kieron - nothing like asking a question that goes right to your very core!!! WOW. You know, I have already said that if my SO wanted SRS I couldn't stay in the marriage. It's probably because I have known him as a GB, and fell in love with him as a GB. I am very much a girly-girl, and as much as I hate to admit it, I very much love the "man bits". Now, that said - is there a chance I could change my mind? Possibly, but it's so hard to say without being in the situation. I LIKE to think I'm open-minded, but sometimes I'm just not so sure.
This question has actually tormented me a bit - I ask myself "Why WOULDN'T I give someone I loved a chance?" I guess it all comes down to FEAR. Fear of the unknown, fear of disapproval by the general public, etc. Even though the public's opinion really shouldn't matter to me. Right?
Ashleigh
xoxo

[MoonBaby GG]

We fall in love with someone’s soul, And We fall in love with their heart. With their inner self.

Even though I'm not dating or looking, if circumstances were different and I had to chose a new mate ~ much like now ~ I'd fall into the androgynous and ambiguous realm. By that I'd have to agree with Carol and Di. I can be attracted to various looks, physical manifestations and genders, but unless the person has intelligence and beauty on the soul level for they won't win my affections or love.

[dancinginthedark]

Ash,
I think your questions are all valid ones. And yes we would all like to believe no matter what we would give love a chance, but everyone has their limits, levels of acceptance tolerance etc... I think that you are even considering the possibility says a lot about you that is good and true to the love you feel for your husband. :thumbsup:

This bit below is more of a general response and is not directed at an individual...Ash just got me to thinking is all. I am sure others feel and think differently than I do. And that's cool. "It's all good," as my brother used to say. :) Not here to knock someone's POV so much as share my own.

As to not needing acceptance by society about who we choose to live with and love... now that takes courage and grace. It's putting the one you love where they belonged all along FIRST in your life, not second to anything or anyone else. I'm not saying everyone will feel the same, just IMO it's a no brainier. If you love it should be a given and not a maybe/conditional thing. I do acknowledge that wanting society's approval is something a lot of folks want. (maybe even most want that) But want and need have never been the same thing have they?

I struggled with the whole would I stay if he had SRS in those early days because he seemed so confused and unclear about it all. So I had to consider the possibility of it. I was sure I wouldn't have the courage. I wanted to... but man :confused:, I just didn't know for sure. So I had to really do some thinking and be honest with myself. But ya know I made my decision. I decided that I love the person. The one I see looking back at me from behind those brown eyes. Sure I have enjoyed the "bits" myself but it's not the be all of love. Not even close.

And just like a penis does not define a male, a penis [fill in the blank here--forgive the pun] when I am intimate with someone does not define my being female/feminine either. I define being female (& everything else I am) for myself; it's not defined by someone else's body parts.

Just my POV. :strugglin :p I don't expect everyone to share it with me.

dancin

[Ema1234 GG]

First of all let me say that I'm in a very happy relationship with someone I consider "the one" and despite the upsets over the CDing I've no intention of letting that spoil our relationship.

However, if I was in the situation where I was looking then I think the answer is yes I certainly wouldn't rule it out. But, let me elaborate on it a little bit more.

I am bi-curious and I'm attracted to both men and women. In terms of men, I'm attracted to big buch macho men, and for women, I find girlie girlie types attractive. A bit of a contradication I know, but you can't change what you like can you!

"What if?" questions are always difficult to answer and perhaps my experiences with CDing may make me hesitent to get into such a relationship. However, if the CDing was out in the open from the beginning then I think that may solve many of the problems as the majority of my issues stem from hiding the CDing.

Now if the FTM CDer in question could be both big and buch in male mode, and cute and girlie in female mode and I was attracted to both then in terms of the initial sexual attraction that often starts a relationship it would be perfect. BUT, a relationship cannot continue with purely phsyical attraction and needs to develop into something more. As others have said, I would need to click with the person in order for it to work.

So to sum it up, while it's hard for me to answer because of my current situaiton, I think the answer is that I certainly wouldn't rule it out, although I doubt I would actively seek a relationship with a FTM CDer. However, if I ended up in that situation and that person happened to come along than I certainly would enter into the situation with an open mind.

[Stacy GG]

well, Kieron...I'd have to say it's not unlikely if I weren't already married.
I have been attracted to males & females, mainly because of personality and not necesarily because of gender. So if I had met a FTM previously I would not have ruled out the possibility.
I've never had a particular type of person I was attracted to , so it's not a possibility I would rule out. I am a bit shy and everyone I've ever met assumed upon first meeting that I'm very conservative, so such a meeting would probably have been unlikely. I do tend to like slightly more effeminate guys so it probably could have been something that would work. :D

[JamesAlan]

Would I actively look to date a f2m? Probably not. Would I date one if we clicked...yes. I'm currently dating a m2f ts. I'm bi so physical sex doesn't bother me, I like both. It's always been about the person on the inside. And believe me, my girlfriend got a lot hotter to me when she accepted herself and was happier with herself.

[christianna]

I'd have to say... no, I wouldn't do it again. Though I'm bisexual, I'm most attracted to girly girls and extremely feminine men... and watching the attractive woman that I started my relationship turn more and more into a man.. wore me down and took a toll on our relationship.
Maybe that is shallow... but either way I know that about myself... I need an externally feminine partner to sustain a relationship that is to have a sexual component to it.
Christianna

[alexis GG]

This is a long story cut short (hopefully) .....
Years ago when I was 17 or 18 I met a guy and a few weeks into the relationship and staying at his house. At bed time I got into bed first, he went to the bathroom to clean teeth etc... or so I thought.... He came out dressed in a skirt, stockings, bra and skimpy top.... I ashamed to say I ridculed him really laughed my socks off..... Cruel, in hindsight yes, but I was very naive and had never come across CDing before.
Not surprisingly I left the next day and never saw the guy again but also vowed to never get involved with another CDer ever!!

Well now how things and people change... I have been with my SO for 3 1/2 years now, he told me about him being a CDer a week in our relationship. Yes I had questions about why etc, but also how it made me feel. I questioned my own sexuality because I find him dressed as a girl a huge turn on. Did that make me a lesbian?? I joined this forum about a year later and found that its perfectly normal to feel the way I do.... So in answer to your question Kieron I don't think I would actively seek a M2F or F2M but if I was single and I met the right person,who happened to be M2F,F2M etc then I'd be happy... For me its the person that matters not the gender...

I hope I've put this across right

:hugs:

alexis

[KrazyKat]

Well, Kieron, 3 years ago I would have still been in the mindset of only being attracted to genetic men, sensitive types, of course. Now, I have reconsidered a lot of things having to do with gender attraction, and I can honestly say, I would be very attracted to F2M or any gender who is more in the middle, more like myself. I think a trusting partner who is loyal and works with you are the most important qualities, and the chemistry is just there, after that.
It's funny now to think back, but I was hit on by a lot of woman when I was younger, but I didn't give it much thought, wasn't interested. Now that I've accepted the female ways with the male, after I've been in love with someone for years, it doesn't seem like it was that big of a deal, since I believe sexual attraction begins in the mind. I don't know if I would've felt this way when I was younger, but it's the way I feel now.

[CaptLex]

KAAAAAT!!!! So nice to see you here! :bighug:

Oh, sorry . . . didn't mean to interrupt, just so happy to see Kat again. :love:

Please carry on.

[kittypw GG]

I'd have to say... no, I wouldn't do it again. Though I'm bisexual, I'm most attracted to girly girls and extremely feminine men... and watching the attractive woman that I started my relationship turn more and more into a man.. wore me down and took a toll on our relationship.
Maybe that is shallow... but either way I know that about myself... I need an externally feminine partner to sustain a relationship that is to have a sexual component to it.
Christianna

I don't think this is shallow at all. Sexual attraction is really big in my opinion. What we see totally affects what we feel IMO. If I had a choice between my hubby totally chicked out and a very hot bald, muscular ftm? Let me say that I would physically prefer the ftm. I think that love and attraction are two different things. I can love someone like my gay male friend or my close female friends but I don't have a sexual attraction to them. I love my husband very much but the more feminine he looks the less sexual attraction I feel. I think this is a normal response and not shallow at all. It makes total sense to me. :D Kitty

HI YA KAT! I'm with the captain, glad to see ya round these parts. We all miss hearing from you.
Kitty

[Kris]

Wow, I read this thread yesterday and have been pondering it ever since.

I would have to say, that if I cared about a person and saw them in a sexual way, it wouldn't really matter.

On the other side, I would have to say at first site attraction I would say no, because I am into feminine, not masculine at all. So if a person was f2m, they would be trying to become masculine, if I am thinking correctly.

So, I hope that I didn't offend anyone here.. I am just stating my preference.

Thanks,
Kris GG

[Aliera]

I believe my dating experience is restricted to straight males. However, I seem to be attracted to masculine qualities independent of gender, which makes me think that dating a FTM crossdresser would be quite consistent with my criteria.

[Dee Talbot]

I'm a little late to the party, but I thought I would throw my :2c: in. I consider myself bisexual, but since I am married, I won't be looking in either camp for companionship :D

If I were single however, I think I would be open to anyone, regardless of gender identity. I am more interested in being with someone I can love and can feel like myself around than I would be interested in whatever the outer package might present.

After the years I have spent in turmoil because of relationships, I have learned to grab happiness with both hands and hold tight. The physical form that happiness comes in is irrelevant to me.

Dee