Women arent daft ..

[Genifer Teal]

great for us girls because of the cranberrry juice!



What are the benefits of cranberry juice?

[Amanda FAB]

http://www.supermarketguru.com/page.cfm/1848 :)

[SiobhanW]

Don't they say the same with red wine? I know which I'd prefer! :drink: :heehee:

[NylonMan]

Amanda and Mirani.

I just read this thread now. I just wanted to say that you two have a relationship that most CD's would die for. Congrats to the both of you, and happy dressing. I am soooooo jealous at the fact that you two can go out together dressed, and relax later with your feet up. Have you given each other a foot massage yet, after you take your shoes off?

NylonMan

[Ashley Williams]

Hi Mira & Amanda

I have been reading through your thread today and was absolutely gripped.

Like many of the respondents I find that it comes across like a fairy tale. And of course if you had written it as fiction, people would have said it was too improbable to be true.

Lucky you!

But its not all down to luck, is it? You both appear to have worked at things with an open mind and not a small amount of courage. By moving to Brighton, Steve might have wondered what opportunities could present themselves to Mirani, especially wearing such long natural hair. Likewise Amanda might have seen a potential in Steve that expressed itself eventually through Mirani.

Without wanting to play too much the amateur psychologist, I am so happy for you and hope things continue to work well.

Charles Dickens orignally published in instalments - but the blog beats him hands down!

Have a lovely Christmas both of you - and I hope there will be one or two more snippets to read about before the world descends totally into seasonal shmaltz!

All the Best

Lesley

[CathyKR]

Like many of the respondents I find that it comes across like a fairy tale. And of course if you had written it as fiction, people would have said it was too improbable to be true.

I'm not convinced that it isn't a fairy tale. Seems just too good to be true!

[kikiw]

What a delightful story! Glad it you shared.

[Genifer Teal]

One day I may have enough money to have laser hair removal .. starting with my face.

Start saving up. It is well worth it!

Gen

[Andine]

Well !! What an exceptional story!!

Thank you very much to Miriani and Amanda. That is wonderfull.

I'd like to wish you both a very happy time together, and I hope that you are able to share that with us as well ... Congratulations on your obvious maturity, and great personal skills.

I feel that I have gotten to know quite a few of you girls, by reading this. Some have made coments that were a bit judgemental, but Miriani and Amanda have handled them extremely well!


I am a bit new to the whole concept of this kind of forum, and I'm still trying to find my way about. When I get there I shall share a story with you.

In the meantime ... A happy X-mas to one and all ... from "Down Under " supposedly warm Australia.

I'm off for a bike ride!

Regards Andine

[Mirani]

Seasons Greetings.

My first Christmas en femme. Off out for Christmas Dinner in a "posh" hotel. :)

Hope everyone gets what they need and not what they deserve!!

[Marvina Martian]

Well !! What an exceptional story!!

Thank you very much to Miriani and Amanda. That is wonderfull.

I'd like to wish you both a very happy time together, and I hope that you are able to share that with us as well ... Congratulations on your obvious maturity, and great personal skills.

I feel that I have gotten to know quite a few of you girls, by reading this. Some have made coments that were a bit judgemental, but Miriani and Amanda have handled them extremely well!


I am a bit new to the whole concept of this kind of forum, and I'm still trying to find my way about. When I get there I shall share a story with you.

In the meantime ... A happy X-mas to one and all ... from "Down Under " supposedly warm Australia.

I'm off for a bike ride!

Regards Andine



I must say that is a great pic!

[Tiffany Leigh]

Why does he want "real boobs"?
Amanda.




Silly, every girl knows boobs makes clothes look better, and the falsies arent as much fun!:heehee:

[Mirani]

What a week so far. After my first experience as Mirani at Christmas - we then had to do the "family" visits.
It would be the first time Amanda's people would meet me, so it was a STeve time. It was fine. After all the recent time en femme, I was very OK for Steve to get out.
We had a fun time and I was made to feel part of the family and Amanda's sisters and brother were great.

BUT /// it has made us think .. shpuld we tell them about Mirani .. ?
It would mean no lies, no explanations for my nails and hair, no fear of being exposed. Amanda thinks her sisters will be intrigued but OK, tho fears her brother "wont get it".

We wont do anything rash, but it seems we will probably tell her younger sister first.

Then ... there's my family .....

Thanks to everyone for PM's and support.

[Genifer Teal]

It is hard to predict how friends and family will react. Support may come from the least likely places and vice versa. I agree explaining it up front make life easier.

Best of luck when you do.

Hugs - Genifer

[ColleenCD]

Mirani,

You and Amanda have a lifetime to enjoy each other's company. You were calculated and careful as you approached your relationship with Amanda. You can select the best time to discuss your decisions and with whom when it comes to family. Just don't feel pressured to go beyond your comfort level.

Colleen

[Mirani]

Hi friends

Where do I start.

Amanda and I have decided to "cool it" a bit. We have had virtually 24/7 for a month. I have stayed with her and she has stayed with me almost every day. We have discussed this and Amanda knows I am putting in this post.

Christmas and New Year were wonderful. I "Miranied" all the way through.
Its weird because I now dont feel I "need" to dress every night after work, or nearly all the weekends.

We had a bit of a problem too in the sales. I was trying things on as usual, and one of the women in the changing area (curtained off spaces) "read" me when I walked out to show Amanda and asked her what she thought. The woman complained to a security guard. I was asked to leave the changing room and go to the managers office.
Amanda asked "what for?" and I said "No". I was told that if I caused trouble they would call the police and it was all on CCTV. (There was a camera overseeing the entrance to the changing rooms).

We decided that it was a "no win" situation and left the store. We went for a coffee and I was quite "disturbed" by the whole episode. Even tho I didnt do anything against the law, I felt like a criminal. I suppose they will show the CCTV "in house" and have a good laugh at the guy in a dress.

And if the police had been called, they would have asked for names and addresses. The thought of all the following palava has made me realise what I am risking each time I forget I am a guy and "act out" my feminine persona - getting lost in an unreal world. Amanda and I aren't two women out shopping. We are a woman and a crossdressing man.

I haven't dressed since last Wednesday - my heart isn't in it. And to be honest, I am quite content to get home, not let my hair down and not change. I might even get a hair cut.

Anyway, Amanda and I are staying in our own spaces for a while. Taking stock. We will go out (I wont be en femme) and just "be ordinary".

The reason for posting? Well, I didnt want to leave you with the wrong impression about what has been happening. This has been a very fast ride.

Amanda might put her perspective on this later.

I am not unhappy. Just dipping my toe back into the real world and finding myself again.

[Genifer Teal]

I might even get a hair cut.


Don't do anything rash! Cutting your hair could be compared to purging only you can't just buy it back. Hair takes time to grow. (I know I'm stating the obvious) Give yourself a cooling off period before you rush into anything. Remember what Britney Spears did? lol Don't do anything you may soon regret.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17031907/

On another note, sorry to hear of your unfortunate experience. You have been on the fast track for several weeks. It will be interesting to watch your relationship adapt to life with less Mirani.

As always, I wish you the best!

Hugs - Genifer

[jennydl]

Hi Mirani,a taste of reality is a good thing.I think it helps to ground us,make us more aware of who we really are.I often put my cding away for for awhile. usually it is after dressing a lot in a short time.I feel satisfied and the urge just isn't there.looking back,there were times when I was younger that I felt I was done with cding when the urge went away and would purge.silly me
(costly too)I think "finding oneself" en drab is just as important as"en femme"
You seem to be on the right track.the only advice I would give is to give it some time before deciding to cut your hair,it may feel right at the moment but you may regret it right away which may only make you feel worse.
I hope this helps
jenny

[Mitch23]

thanx for the update mirani - its good to hear how things are going with you

mitch

[karen]

Hi mira I to live in the uk and know how the general public react to anything different a little bump to remind you what whirlwind experience you are on I think that steve needs time know mandy and mandy to know steve, bet its nice to be steve again.



oops nearly forgot what about secret santa

[Ashley Williams]

What a nightmare!

I only recently 'discovered' your post and have been looking out for news every day since!

The fairytale has been well and truly invaded - but you have come a long way in a very short time.

It can't do you any harm to reconnect with yourself either, I suppose.

All best wishes that 2008 sees you both moving forward, albeit at a less breakneck speed.

[TxKimberly]

Well, at least based on what you have written, your life has been a whirlwind the last few months. I don't think anyone can keep up an emotional pace likfe that forever, so I am not surprised you need to catch your breath.
As you know, I travel a LOT and once I started exploring places as Kim, I started off hot and heavy. Every chance I got, every night after the job was done, I was out and about as Kim. After a couple of months I was exhausted and just wanted to crawl back the the hotel and collapse. LOL
I think you have gone through something like that but add to the mix the stress of your new relationship with Amanda and the in and outs of the office now that everyone knows, and I'm guessing you have got to be spent, pooped, exhausted!
I hope very much that this isn't the end of things with Amanda. Not just because she accepted you, but because I tend to think that the kind of woman that can accept this with good grace and have fun with it, must be a hell of a woman in other ways. I would think she must have a fun streak and must be very confident in herself. I also suspect based on what I have read here she is probably also very intelligent. In other words, a person you would want to hang out with.
Of course I often laugh that the reason I have been married for 20 years is because I'm gone so much - I'm not here long enough to really annoy my wife! ;-) My point being that maybe "a little space" (gotta admit I hate the phrase) isn't such a bad thing from time to time.
Thanks for posting your problems and downers as well as just the highs. People should know that even those lives that seem so perfect are never all sunshine and lollypops.

Hugs to you and to Amanda. :-)

[Amanda FAB]

Thanks Kimberly. You always say such lovely things.

This next bit wont be a surprise to Mira/Steve:
I have fallen for her/him completely and totally and s/he makes me feel like a teenager at times.

We talked for ages, cried and laughed. We both see that we were in a whirlwind of excitement and discovery and filled every moment wanting to be together. S/he makes me so happy I have been walking on air. Mira also tasted prolonged "girl time" and found it is not all fun ! :heehee:

But, Mira reappeared last night. I bought some new nail polish (Nutmeg Nail Polish - Jessica) and did one of his nails to check out the colour. .... then I whistled oo .. oo oo .. oo oo (its a sound that comes from a TV show called "Masternind" when time is up) and I said "I've started, so I'll finish" (a catch-phrase). One nail ended up as 10 - and Steve mimicked my whistle and said "I've started so I'll finish" and let his hair down (a good sign) then put on some lovely silky PJ's and handed me a hairbrush. I love brushing her hair. She says I was a Monkey in a past life because they also express affection and make peace with others by grooming each other and it also helps them to build and maintain good social relationships. mm ...
I proposed a toast "To the three of us" and we had a lovely "together" evening.

We are not in difficulties with each other - just working out how to get it together in a way that works best for us.

:bye::bye:

We have realised the Mira should come and go as she pleases. Also I can "invite" her round any time too.

[SherriePall]

The more I read here, the more I realize how wonderful and right for each other the two (three) of you are. I hope everything continues to be that way for you.

[Mitch23]

thanks guys, you have restored my faith inhumanity.

hugs to you both

Mitch

[Holly]

It seems we come back to finding a balance. I think it is excellent that the two of you realize it. It certainly does give you both a head start on success. Your exploration of life together has given us all things to learn and I want to thank you both of being so generous with your personal lives.

[Andine]

Hi guys!
Amanda and Mirani ...
Thanks for sharing your extraordinary story ... its delightfull!
I think that you are obviously a very mature pair of people, and I am sure that this will work very well for you!
Congratulations!

I shall await the next stage with eagerness.

Best regards

[Ashley Williams]

The fairy tale continues and brings its beauty into the real world!

You have done so well - and long may you enjoy the fruits etc.

Happy New Year - and to a long and loving life together.

[Jennaie]

Ok, it's getting late and I have to admit that I only got to page 6, LOL. but I have to say something here and I don't think I need to read any more to say this.

In one of your post, you stated that Amanda told you that you were different when dressed, I may be adding to this a bit but, more happy, easy going, comfortable with yourself and later, she reiterated this in one of her own post. I can really relate to this.

I too was told by the few who I have come out to and actually dressed in front of that I was completely different, that I was much more pleasant to be around, that I seemed so much more happy and comfortable with myself.

I believe that this is an important point to consider here. We all talk about the calmness that comes over us when we are dressed but we all seem to think that we are the same person as before. I have to admit that after hearing more than a couple of people tell me that I was so different when dressed that I had no choice but to believe them.

This is why I think that Amanda (Hi Amanda) wants you to feel free to dress and has ask you to dress more often even talking to you about dressing 24/7. Your so relaxed when dressed, your the person your so comfortable being.

What a privilege it has been to read your post here. Your a much smarter girl than I am and I am so happy to have had the chance to read all this.

[Susan.]

This is a wonderful thread. Best wishes to both of you.

Maybe I missed it but what did Mira get from her secret Santa?

[macada10]

for a CD spending time as a girl and as a boy...... it is funnier....:heehee:

Steve be careful! I think Amanda is cheating you with a beautiful girl named Mirani....hihihi

[bEEb]

Lovely story.
Yes women are not "daft".... initially.
It takes 20 years of marriage.

[BarbaraTalbot]

The harsh reality of bigotry is enough to send anyone scurrying for the closet. I haven't been out and at risk to the degree you have been by a long stretch. Just hearing some bigots on the radio and their vitriol that would have resulted in them being fired and the station fined by the Federal Communication Commission if they had said those things about blacks or gays or women, sent me into a tailspin, and it wasn't even about me it was a local transwoman.

I don't have any answers just offer support and understanding.

[Fab Karen]

Barbara, contact the sponsors of that radio show & let them know how you feel. Also you can put the word out to your local T-community about it & they can do the same. Pressure from their sponsors could have them changing their tune.

[Mirani]

Just to say all is well.

We seem to have some "balance" now :)

Work days are "Man hours"

weekday evenings are "hair down, lippy and mascara only and comfortable slacks and tops.

The weekends "day time" is mostly "guy stuff" and Saturday nights are for the full kaboodle! .... either a Girls Night In .. or a meal. cinema, or pub night.

I am excited tho, as one of the office girls is getting married this year and she has said I MUST go out on the hen night :) .. and as long as I wear a hat !!! and dont outdo her (as if!) then she would love for Mirani to go to the wedding.

We both had a treat yesterday .. an evening at a beauty salon and had a Chocolate Experience:

Skin Polish: the body being exfoliated to get rid of dead skin, followed by a massage to warm and relax the muscles and increase circulation.

Nourish: chocolate all over the body. then left alone to relax for 20 - 30 minutes while the cocoa starts to take effect. During this time the lights are dimmed to relax in chocolate heaven.

Moisturise: After relaxation time is complete, the chocolate is cleansed from the skin and to finish a velvety body lotion!

it was so lovely!

[SouthernLady]

Thanks to everyone for your encouragement and thoughts. Here are some responses to particular messages:


MJ
I think you do NOT understand my situation. It’s not FEAR – I see it as wisdom to consider a response – a bit like the maxim “Look before you leap!”
And it is a tad insulting to call it “chicken out”. It is not cowardice (thats the inference!).
We are programmed to sense and respond to possible danger –it can keep us alive! It’s called Risk Assessment. Benefits versus Losses.

I am not here to live out someone else’s fantasy and because “someone else may take my place in a heartbeat” – that is a foolish reason to do anything.

I am grateful for people taking the trouble to consider my position and make recommendations, however I feel your “encouragement” may be a bit of “fools rush in where wise men fear to tread”. So, I will not “Just do it”.



JoAnnD
Thanks
I have been “out” regularly for some time – its not the being “out” that concerns me. It is the mixing of “Mirani” me with the rest of my life. Mirani is separated elsewhere. Mirani friends don’t know my non-Mirani life and vice versa.


MollyT
Yes, it is the confusion of workplace and social which worries me.



Mistybtm
Yes, instincts are there for a reason :)

Thanks again one and all. I realise to some this is what we have dreamed of forever .. being "one of the girls". It is certainly one of my desires. But not at the cost of other important life needs.

I have been in the "Pink Fog" before and lost my way. I intend to think each step and I may well go out next Thursday and do the christmas thing.
BUT
I may not.

I hope my responses dont prevent you from continuing to offer your thoughts and ideas - as long as you dont mind me responding too.

Let your instincts be your guide Mirani, I can sense your hesitation. There's a lot to be said for caution. You may feel more secure if you test the waters a little bit at a time. Perhaps you should have a discussion with your partner about the entire affair. She may have insights that you're not aware of. You're wise I can tell, whatever you decide...

[cathybicd]

What a lovely story to share with us, enjoy your new found status at work
and realise your good fortune to work with some really cool girls.

Like some of the other girls,i'm curious to know what their mane questions were
so please do share some of them with us.

cathy

[TxKimberly]

Mirani,

I have a great life and no complaints. Two lovely children and a wife that I have adored for 20 years, but reading your story makes me think "Damn! I want to have HER life!". LOL
Way to go Mirani - I'm so happy your life is going so wonderful!
Have you ever looked back on a part of your life and thought "Damn! Wish I'd known how good I had it and really appreciated it back then"? Well if so, I suggest you pay attention now because your IN one of those moments right NOW! Note it, appreciate it, give thanks for it, and most of all enjoy it!

[Vickygogirl]

Mirani,
Just read your story from page 1 right to the end ( took about an hour) and have to say your one lucky girl !! Hope something like that happens to me. ( please !!):heehee:
Best wishes to you and the girls at work.

Vicky x