Michellebej
01-04-2008, 03:04 AM
This one is gonna take awhile so get your tea and danish!
A while back a GG got a bit upset with one of us for saying that having sex with a man made them feel like a woman.
I have thought about it for a few weeks now and there is no simple answer. I guess it is important to cover a few basics before we begin.
While all of us that are MTF present ourselves as women, in one fashion or another; we do so for different reasons. Many different reasons. In fact it is this differentiation that causes us to not always understand someone else's point of view.
In its simplest terms ( of an admittedly complex issue) there are two major camps; those who "feel like women" and those who are "guys in a dress". ( and please I know there are a zillion shades in between, but; this is an attempt to describe things in the simplest terms possible).
Often times the members of the two camps have views on the same subject which are at odds with each other.
It has been shown that some of us have the brain of a woman. That is, our brains have the physical architecture of a woman's brain, which is much different than a mans.
It is my belief that most of us that "feel like women" do so because we have brains with a female architecture. Which could go a long way to explaining some of the conflict many of us have within ourselves. I.e. reconciling a female mind with a male body.
Having got to this point I would like to point out that the ONLY reason for the differentiation of the species into male and female, biologically speaking, is for procreation. Everything else is secondary from a Biological standpoint. Not procreating is an evolutionary dead end. Biologically; members of a species that don't procreate are defective and by their very actions do not pass on their genes to the next generation. ( this is NOT a value judgement on someones decision on childbearing. Just a simple biological fact. In fact those of us that are mtf can be considered biologically defective if we only have sex with men)
Our brains are like computers, in a way. Like a new computer we have huge data storage centers that are blank and waiting to be instructed. Likewise we have a motherboard with hardwired instructions. Instructions like "Breath darn it". Instructions that tell us how to react to light and sound. Instructions that give us the "fight or flight" code when trouble brews.
Instructions that tell us to have sex and keep the species alive. Think about this for a moment. If you put two people on an island from birth to death, and they never saw another human or received education of any kind ( ok, robots are taking care of them), do you believe that they would never have the urge to have sex or figure out how to do it? No, their brains provide hardwired instruction and stimuli.
Granted we have reason and self awareness and societies with artificial rules and codes of conduct. Granted that in our sociological groups we determine what is appropriately feminine or masculine. And that femininity or masculinity are not innate to any particular member of a gender, but; rather are the ideals of the majority.
Granting all this I would point out that most, if not all of us, know GGs whose entire reason for existing is wrapped up in procreation. I.e. "being a Mom". I've asked a number of the GGs I know who are in this boat, if procreation is a necessary part of being a woman. Most of them look at me as if I have asked the stupidest question in the world.
Which finally brings me to the question asked so long ago. It is my belief that those whose brains are identifiably female are more likely to have gender specific ( i.e. female) instructions hardwired into us. Now most of us have learned, via "nurture", to use the hardware we are born with. That still leaves us with an unresolved, hardwired, programing instruction to procreate with a man. Granted that we are physically incapable ( most of us) of doing that. However; I would point out that many GGs that are biologically incapable of having children still have the urge and even need to "act out" the machinations of procreation, even though the mind (software) is well aware that the procedures will be futile; in a biological sense.
As do we. Many of us fight our programing all our life. Others give in. We often do not understand these urges within ourselves. Or the reasons they exist.
I for one am two completely different people. The false masculine personality I present to the world, and real feminine me on the inside.
I remember the first time I had sex with a man. I felt more "girlie" then than I had at any time before in my life. And afterwards I talked about it with my girlfriend. I was surprised to learn that my "feelings and reactions" were exactly like hers when she lost her virginity. Strangely it bonded us even closer together.
In short some of us have the brain architecture of a woman with the associated hardwired instructions. Having sex with men gives these instructions an outlet. That outlet often triggers secondary instructions which release brain chemicals which induce pleasure, contentment, and euphoria. This temporary alignment of our brain ( female hardware and realization of hardwired instructions) and mind ( female gestalt) produce intense feelings of femininity in some of us.
Now I know I am going to have lots of people completely misread this and tell me that " real woman don't have to have sex with men, or sex at all to be real women".
Please understand I am not talking about the consensus definition of a woman, rather the base line hard wiring ( and biological reason for the existence of the sexes) we are all born with, and that most of us go through life taking for granted; if we even think of it all.
I honestly hope most of you understand the sincere attempt to answer this question for what it is. Even though many will not have the frame of reference; i.e. male body, male brain, or ; female body , female brain, to completely understand what we go through.
Love
Michelle
A while back a GG got a bit upset with one of us for saying that having sex with a man made them feel like a woman.
I have thought about it for a few weeks now and there is no simple answer. I guess it is important to cover a few basics before we begin.
While all of us that are MTF present ourselves as women, in one fashion or another; we do so for different reasons. Many different reasons. In fact it is this differentiation that causes us to not always understand someone else's point of view.
In its simplest terms ( of an admittedly complex issue) there are two major camps; those who "feel like women" and those who are "guys in a dress". ( and please I know there are a zillion shades in between, but; this is an attempt to describe things in the simplest terms possible).
Often times the members of the two camps have views on the same subject which are at odds with each other.
It has been shown that some of us have the brain of a woman. That is, our brains have the physical architecture of a woman's brain, which is much different than a mans.
It is my belief that most of us that "feel like women" do so because we have brains with a female architecture. Which could go a long way to explaining some of the conflict many of us have within ourselves. I.e. reconciling a female mind with a male body.
Having got to this point I would like to point out that the ONLY reason for the differentiation of the species into male and female, biologically speaking, is for procreation. Everything else is secondary from a Biological standpoint. Not procreating is an evolutionary dead end. Biologically; members of a species that don't procreate are defective and by their very actions do not pass on their genes to the next generation. ( this is NOT a value judgement on someones decision on childbearing. Just a simple biological fact. In fact those of us that are mtf can be considered biologically defective if we only have sex with men)
Our brains are like computers, in a way. Like a new computer we have huge data storage centers that are blank and waiting to be instructed. Likewise we have a motherboard with hardwired instructions. Instructions like "Breath darn it". Instructions that tell us how to react to light and sound. Instructions that give us the "fight or flight" code when trouble brews.
Instructions that tell us to have sex and keep the species alive. Think about this for a moment. If you put two people on an island from birth to death, and they never saw another human or received education of any kind ( ok, robots are taking care of them), do you believe that they would never have the urge to have sex or figure out how to do it? No, their brains provide hardwired instruction and stimuli.
Granted we have reason and self awareness and societies with artificial rules and codes of conduct. Granted that in our sociological groups we determine what is appropriately feminine or masculine. And that femininity or masculinity are not innate to any particular member of a gender, but; rather are the ideals of the majority.
Granting all this I would point out that most, if not all of us, know GGs whose entire reason for existing is wrapped up in procreation. I.e. "being a Mom". I've asked a number of the GGs I know who are in this boat, if procreation is a necessary part of being a woman. Most of them look at me as if I have asked the stupidest question in the world.
Which finally brings me to the question asked so long ago. It is my belief that those whose brains are identifiably female are more likely to have gender specific ( i.e. female) instructions hardwired into us. Now most of us have learned, via "nurture", to use the hardware we are born with. That still leaves us with an unresolved, hardwired, programing instruction to procreate with a man. Granted that we are physically incapable ( most of us) of doing that. However; I would point out that many GGs that are biologically incapable of having children still have the urge and even need to "act out" the machinations of procreation, even though the mind (software) is well aware that the procedures will be futile; in a biological sense.
As do we. Many of us fight our programing all our life. Others give in. We often do not understand these urges within ourselves. Or the reasons they exist.
I for one am two completely different people. The false masculine personality I present to the world, and real feminine me on the inside.
I remember the first time I had sex with a man. I felt more "girlie" then than I had at any time before in my life. And afterwards I talked about it with my girlfriend. I was surprised to learn that my "feelings and reactions" were exactly like hers when she lost her virginity. Strangely it bonded us even closer together.
In short some of us have the brain architecture of a woman with the associated hardwired instructions. Having sex with men gives these instructions an outlet. That outlet often triggers secondary instructions which release brain chemicals which induce pleasure, contentment, and euphoria. This temporary alignment of our brain ( female hardware and realization of hardwired instructions) and mind ( female gestalt) produce intense feelings of femininity in some of us.
Now I know I am going to have lots of people completely misread this and tell me that " real woman don't have to have sex with men, or sex at all to be real women".
Please understand I am not talking about the consensus definition of a woman, rather the base line hard wiring ( and biological reason for the existence of the sexes) we are all born with, and that most of us go through life taking for granted; if we even think of it all.
I honestly hope most of you understand the sincere attempt to answer this question for what it is. Even though many will not have the frame of reference; i.e. male body, male brain, or ; female body , female brain, to completely understand what we go through.
Love
Michelle