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sandra-leigh
02-20-2008, 03:35 AM
Well, my wild ways were bound to catch up with me sooner or later :)

This evening, I had to head over the drug store at the nearest mall. I wore a long jeans skirt, lavender tights, a slinky top with a bit of a scoop neck, and my larger forms. Over this I had my long black (male) below-the-knee coat, and I had on short winter shoes (so my tights could be seen above the shoes and below the skirt -- but not enough of them to tell they were tights rather than socks.)

As I walked through the mall, I had my coat unbuttoned but not off-the-shoulder. You couldn't really see my neck and you couldn't see the peaks or outer curve of my forms, and my shirt did not plunge suddenly back in to my chest, so onlookers could certainly have missed the boobs, especially if they were not expecting them. But the entire front of my jeans skirt was visible, well enough that it wouldn't have taken a whole lot of attention from anyone looking straight at me to figure out that there was no bifurbication and hence that it was a skirt rather than jeans.

Now, I have visited that mall dressed to various extents, obviously so (e.g., gender-bending) 20 times or more. And even though it is only a mile from home, I rarely see anyone I know there, and never while I am dressed.

Until tonight.

Tonight, half-way along the mall, I shifted walking directions slightly (moving around fixtures), glanced up to judge the relative motions of people... and realized that the couple I was about to pass within three feet of going the other way, was my immediate next door neighbours. The ones who might not have known about me before. Well, if they weren't blind tonight, now they do. :o I know they saw me: we exchanged nods. (We're not so close that stopping to chat would have been expected.)

My immediate neighbours on the other side have known for over a year (they recognized me on a late late bus one night) but they are hip; the ones that saw me tonight (and possibly never before) are a little older and not so hip... I don't know if it will matter to them. I suspect a simple skirt like what I had tonight won't bother them much; they might have more trouble with the idea of me in a dress.

Ah well. The good news is that now I should be able to do my back-yard work in a skirt :heehee:

Christina Louise
02-20-2008, 03:43 AM
If they're old enough, they might have mistaken your skirt for denim flares :heehee:

Vicky_Scot
02-20-2008, 05:03 AM
I suspect a simple skirt like what I had tonight won't bother them much; they might have more trouble with the idea of me in a dress.


Tough. Why are you concerned about what they think?

It is your life, so enjoy it and if we worried about what other people thought about things everytime we would have a boring life.

They might tie each other up and whip each other everynight...............would they be looking for your approval?

Xx Vicky xX

sandra-leigh
02-20-2008, 05:09 AM
If they're old enough,


I just did a quick mental calculation. I figure they aren't quite old enough to have been "flower children" themselves. Hmmm, and not quite young enough for their parents to have been flower children (not unless they wouldn't have trusted themselves.) :eek: -- a generation gap!



Tough. Why are you concerned about what they think?

Common property line; I need to be on good enough terms with them to have them cut down some trees, and for them to allow me to rebuild the fence where it is (they would be within their rights to insist that the new fence be at least 3 feet from the property line, which would ruin my hopes of rehabilitating my side yard when their trees come down.)

I've never had any problem with them before, and it would be nice to continue not to have any problems with them. For example, it is not uncommon for which-ever of us gets out first after a snowfall to shovel the other's sidewalk (which is a distinct pleasantry when it is -40 like it has been lately!)


They might tie each other up and whip each other everynight

The "tie each other up" part wouldn't especially surprise me, if you changed it to "weekly" instead of "every night". But a bit of light bondage is practically mainstream these days; cross-dressing is still Kinda Weird to most people.

BETH H
02-20-2008, 05:57 AM
I have never gone out dressed just bra panties under my drab clothes hoping not to meet anyone I knew then my ex found my stash and outed me to ALL my friends called each and ever one I avoided them for like a month but they called I explained I just love to wear the womans clothes and they were fine with it I don't wear stuff around them and don't talk much about it feel like a giant rock was taken off my shoulders still don't go out fully dressed just hose bra panties feels great don't care what others think any more the truth will set you free


beth

Annie D
02-20-2008, 07:00 AM
Whenever any one of us go out wearing, we need to expect that some day or sometime that we are gonna be found out. For years we all hide like little mice and our mothers or our sisters, our neighbors or someone at work sees us and we think that it is the end of our so-called life. It isn't! Although we all want to a discreet as we can be, we all realize that someday that we are going to lose our secret. It is a gamble each and everytime we venture out, sometimes we win and sometimes we lose. Although I have not been outed by someone else or by myself, I realize that it will happen someday and that day for me will be a day I have expected to come and am prepared to deal with.

MarinaTwelve200
02-20-2008, 08:43 AM
Whenever any one of us go out wearing, we need to expect that some day or sometime that we are gonna be found out. For years we all hide like little mice and our mothers or our sisters, our neighbors or someone at work sees us and we think that it is the end of our so-called life. It isn't! Although we all want to a discreet as we can be, we all realize that someday that we are going to lose our secret. It is a gamble each and everytime we venture out, sometimes we win and sometimes we lose. Although I have not been outed by someone else or by myself, I realize that it will happen someday and that day for me will be a day I have expected to come and am prepared to deal with.

Thats the CHANCE one takes any time one is foolish enough to actually go out dresed.----But then again, I strongly suspect that exposing one's self to the "danger" and getting away with it is very much part of the "THRILL" for what me may term the "classic crossdresser" type.

I'm sure its related to the "thrill" described by a young Winston Churchill, when he was being "shot at, but to no effect" in the Boer wars. Apparently the risk of one's life is not the only thing this thrill comes from---risking reputation, pride or social standing---and getting away with it also produces this thrill.

As for me, I have no desire to expose myself to such risks. Alone at home, workd just fine for me.

docrobbysherry
02-20-2008, 11:13 AM
I have a lot of them, since I'm surrounded by condos. Doing my photo shoot with Sherry last nite required using the library. Several neighbors can see inside that room, if they look, and it is well lit. It was for the shoot. At first I figured, heck with it. They'll just think it's a GG over using the room. But I didn't want them to know a photo shoot was on. So, I pulled the shade.

A couple of nearby neighbors r complete jerks! I don't need to give them more ammo to start rumors!
I hope yours r nicer!

obsessedwithpantyhose
02-20-2008, 11:59 AM
its so much easyer when everyone who knows u knows u dress,,because u just dont care anymore and u take out the trash in a skirt and heels,,check the mail box at the curb for the mail,,ride ur bike in pantyhose and pink top with a skirt or shorts and sometimes heels IN THE DAYTIME :p:p

sandra-leigh
02-20-2008, 04:39 PM
Apparently the risk of one's life is not the only thing this thrill comes from---risking reputation, pride or social standing---and getting away with it also produces this thrill.

Reputation: my on-line reputation (under my male name) wouldn't change much at all; as long as I keep answering technical questions, people are more interested in the answers than in my peculiarities. There is a local (city) online group that a few people might give me a bit of a rough time, but probably only a few that are regarded as cranks to everyone.

Pride: that comes from within, not without.

Social standing: I have established more social standing in my city as a crossdresser than I had before I dressed. Before, I was spending nearly all my time working and not talking to people, so I have few pre-Dressing friendships to lose here. As a crossdresser, I get good feedback, people thinking that I'm a nice guy. I've attended more social events as a crossdresser than I did in the dozen years in this city before that.


All of which is not to say there wouldn't be some effects Back Home or within the family. I'm sure my sister would be understanding and quite accepting, and I'm sure my mother wouldn't love me any less. I'm not so sure of my childhood friends.

shirley1
02-20-2008, 07:07 PM
I have a lot of them, since I'm surrounded by condos. Doing my photo shoot with Sherry last nite required using the library. Several neighbors can see inside that room, if they look, and it is well lit. It was for the shoot. At first I figured, heck with it. They'll just think it's a GG over using the room. But I didn't want them to know a photo shoot was on. So, I pulled the shade.

A couple of nearby neighbors r complete jerks! I don't need to give them more ammo to start rumors!
I hope yours r nicer!

i understand you completely - where i live now the ideal place to risk going out everyone keeps themselves to themselves in fact i only rarely bump into neighbours very occasionally which is strange as about 11 other flats/appartments in my block - wouldnt really care if i did cross someones path - but where i used to live had typical trashy neighbours/lowlife - always gangs of youthes hanging around outside - i just wouldnt have took the risk - would probably have been the target of verbal abuse - and you just dont need it on your own doorstep ! even if you do end up building your own prison !

Roberta Rain
02-20-2008, 09:38 PM
I went all my life hiding my CDing, and being afraid of being caught, until I cross dressed for halloween, two different outfits... day and evening wear, and then for an unrelated fund raising event a week later, on stage, in front of a huge crowd.... in a short skirt. That was a deeply satisfying event. I still hide it from everyone around the country, but an awful lot of local folks know. Everyone who found out I was serious about it encouraged me to do it more often if not every day... what a surprise!! It's not that simple though, so I still mostly hide it.

teresa jeen
02-20-2008, 09:45 PM
thats what i cannot understand, there just clothes!! cause i wear panties i cant raise that roof?? im more comfortable in womens clothing for many reasons one is "there more comfortable"

Alex!
02-20-2008, 09:49 PM
Well, that's the sort of thing to expect. Otherwise, don't go out dressed. If I go out dressed, I dress totally en femme and I go somewhere I know friends, colleagues, and family will not go. Being caught is not something I desire.

Some folks, I think, subconsciously want to be caught.

Ann Smith
02-20-2008, 09:54 PM
Neighbor X catches sight of what he thinks is Jim, his neighbor, in feminine attire. Then the car lights turn and the suspicious figure falls into shadow.

Across town, it happens on Elm Street. Two counties over, there is a close encounter in a shopping center.

And so on. And so on. Until finally it dawns on modern society that crossdressing is common and we crossdressers are like, every-frikkin-where. Then everybody gets nonchalant about it.

Keep going out girl. Keep wearing. Chip away at the stone wall.

shirley1
02-20-2008, 10:10 PM
i'll tell you something thats true for me at least - being in the closet is the biggest problem for me ie friends family not knowing about my secret !

i honestly wouldnt give a damn about the f xxx neighbours if it wernt for that ! your just afraid to have family/friends around to your home if you think your neighbours know or suspect - i believe the ones that say dont tell people you know unless you have to - but i do think once you start going put from where you live you may need to consider telling them if for nothing else than to lesson the stress factor of being found out or becoming totally paranoid about having any visitors coming around to see you - at least thats how i felt no so long back - like i say it depends on where you live and how much of a need you have to go out