Totaly new at this...

[Myojine]

Hiya im myojine...im 18 and still really new at this...well kinda, i was reading the other threads and way really impressed on how many people are crossdressor out there! hmmmmm is it common for a crossdressor to be gay? cause like i am and was wounderin if there was any correlation...

[DemonicDaughter]

Most of the crossdressers I've ever known are not gay. Grant it, there are gay men that dress as women but would never consider themselves CDers because they don't do it with any regularity. CDers are usually straight men that love to wear women's clothing.

[Myojine]

i am i just an oddity then? lol i play lotsa MMORPGs(online games) and cant help but play with all the guys...i guess im just curious for others like me...I CD every chance i get but i cant very often cause i live in a foster home with some(please forgive the term)fag killers, so it can be risky

[Michelle04240]

oddity? Aren't we all in a way? I know gay, straight, and bisexual cross dressers. You are most certainly not alone.

Welcome aboard, I'm sure you will enjoy your time here, it's filled with some great people.

[Myojine]

i always forget that......i guess your all normal to me! CDing is fun^_^! i hope that we will soon no longer be oddities and just a differnet kinda people thats my own:2c:

[DemonicDaughter]

i am i just an oddity then? lol i play lotsa MMORPGs(online games) and cant help but play with all the guys...i guess im just curious for others like me...I CD every chance i get but i cant very often cause i live in a foster home with some(please forgive the term)fag killers, so it can be risky

Oh don't get me wrong hunnie, you are definitely not alone in all this! :D Its just the majority of the gay men who crossdress don't always refer to themselves as crossdressers. I'm not entirely sure why though... Hmmm... me thinks I should do some inquiring into that. :)

What MMORPG's do you play!? I'm a Guild Wars addict myself! :D

And if those guys even mock you, I'll come kick their :censor: ... as soon as I know where they are... :)

[PatriciaT]

Hi,

It seems that most CDs are heterosexual. The main thing to consider is that 3-5% of US males, at least, are or would like to be CDs. Being gay or not has nothing to with it.
A CD has a feminine side that needs to be expressed, and this is usually done with CD. In this sense, if you feel you have a feminine aspect to your personality that needs to be expressed by doning female attire, then you are one of us, a CD. Any other inclination you have is a different aspect to your personality.

Best

Patricia

[Jilmac]

Myojine, Hi and welcome to the forum. You certainly have some issues that I can relate to. Although I am straight I had a gay brother in law who also was a crossdresser. I was also a foster parent with a very diverse family, (Native American, African American, Hispanic, caucasian), and taught them all tolerance and acceptance. If you were my foster son I would embrace your sexual preferance, and crossdressing as part of your being.

As far as most of the people here, I believe the majority is straight but that shouldn't deter you in seeking out others for information on your new hobby. We are all sisters in a common alliance. I wish you luck with your foster family. I hope you will keep us updated on your progress in dressing. Luv and :hugs: Jill

[Myojine]

(FLYFF)FLY FOR FUN!!!! I AM SO TOTALLY ADDICTED TO THAT GAME!!! and dont worry those guys who who i play with they dont poke fun, the want me to be their girlfriend! they have no i dea im a guy, one day i hope i can be their girlfriend(well sorta)

[DemonicDaughter]

SWEET! I love finding other addicts! LOL! I haven't been able to play much lately because I'm in the constant search of employment but as soon as I get back on a schedule, I'll be online again like I have no life! Wait... I don't... :( LOL! What's your gamer tag? Mine's... you ready?... its going to be a complete shock!... The Devils Daughter. LOL :D Hope to see you in game hun.

[Mitzi]

Miyojine...

What an unusual name, is it of an ethnic origin?

My sense is that the percentage of crossdressers who are gay is pretty much the same as in the total population. Most gay crossdressers I've met dress for the same reason we "straight" crossdressers do...because it's such a pleasurable thing. Most of us, gay or not, would love to attract guys while en femme, even tho we may not be interested in anything but to be found attractive:2c:.

Many of our forum sisters acknowledge they are gay, and so what?? We're all "normal" people who have a "different" side to us.

Mitzi

[Deborah Jane]

Hiya Myojine:happy: I don,t think our sexuality really makes any differance whether we crossdress or not. Some are gay and some aren,t, but it,s the same with the rest of the population.
Just enjoy being who you are!!:hugs:

[deja true]

Hi Myo..! I read in another thread that you were a little distressed that you seemed to be so young compared to most of the rest of the girls on this site. Don't worry about that, hun. There are lots of young girls here, especially in their early 20's. Most show up at night or early in the morning 'cos they're probably working their asses off at their day jobs. You'll find' em, don't worry. But, by the way, all the rest of the old hags around here (like me) can still teach you a thing or two. There's a lotta advice here to keep you sane and safe.

respect & love (for inquisitive youth)

deja

What's gay? Oh, I get it... a happy person!

[Kate Simmons]

Deja is being nice Hon. Not so with me. No text book lessons here. You want to be a "woman", you've got to show your stuff and "work it" toots. That's the way I learned Hon and that is the real fun of it.;):happy:

[docrobbysherry]

[QUOTE=toscanopat;1207416
A CD has a feminine side that needs to be expressed, and this is usually done with CD. In this sense, if you feel you have a feminine aspect to your personality that needs to be expressed by doning female attire, then you are one of us, a CD. Any other inclination you have is a different aspect to your personality.
Patricia[/QUOTE]

Some folks, (I am one and there r others here as well), dress for sexual,
(fetish) reasons. It is possible that I have a "female side", but I am not aware of it yet. I'm sure there IS more to my dressing than sexual satifaction, however, that is the main reason.

A CD is generally a man that enjoys dressing in woman's clothes, for WHATEVER reason.

[PatriciaT]

Some folks, (I am one and there r others here as well), dress for sexual,
(fetish) reasons. It is possible that I have a "female side", but I am not aware of it yet. I'm sure there IS more to my dressing than sexual satifaction, however, that is the main reason.

A CD is generally a man that enjoys dressing in woman's clothes, for WHATEVER reason.

This much too simple a definition and way off the mark. Perhaps you should do a little homework. There are definitions out there for CD and yours doesn't fit, at least not in the real CD community. It sounds like something someone in society would say who does not understand or recognize us. Read some of the topics on this forum related to why we dress.

Fetish, dressing to attract a male boy friend may well be reasons for doning female attire but these people are not true CDs in the sense of this forum, as far as I can tell. Do a bit of searching on the web such as Tri-Ess.org. Most of us are serious about what we do.

Patricia

[PatriciaT]

Some folks, (I am one and there r others here as well), dress for sexual,
(fetish) reasons. It is possible that I have a "female side", but I am not aware of it yet. I'm sure there IS more to my dressing than sexual satifaction, however, that is the main reason.

A CD is generally a man that enjoys dressing in woman's clothes, for WHATEVER reason.

This much too simple a definition and way off the mark. Perhaps you should do a little homework. There are definitions out there for CD in our sense and yours doesn't fit, at least not in the real CD community. It sounds like something someone in society would say who does not understand or recognize us. Read some of the topics on this forum related to why we dress. These are good to start from:
Cross dressing - Love or Lust?
The desire to crossdress

Fetish, dressing to attract a male boy friend may well be reasons for doning female attire but these people are not true CDs. Do a bit of searching on the web such as Tri-Ess.org. Most of us are serious about what we do.

If you don't believe me, why don't you start a thread about a definition for CDs?

Patricia

[Christa]

You are NOT alone here. I'm gay, and I'm also a crossdresser. Don't get dragged into a discussion about how to label yourself... just be proud of the fact that you're well on your way to discovering who you are and what you want out of life!

Kisses,

Christa :koc:

[obsessedwithpantyhose]

welcome to the family Myo,,,
dont worry about lables all they do is confuse the small minded people,,,

just be urself and live ur life the way u want to but dont hurt anyone while ur doin it :p

[Mitzi]

A CD has a feminine side that needs to be expressed, and this is usually done with CD. In this sense, if you feel you have a feminine aspect to your personality that needs to be expressed by doning female attire, then you are one of us, a CD.
A CD is generally a man that enjoys dressing in woman's clothes, for WHATEVER reason.
This much too simple a definition and way off the mark. Perhaps you should do a little homework. There are definitions out there for CD in our sense and yours doesn't fit, at least not in the real CD community.
Crossdressing literally means to dress in the attire of the opposite gender. It carries no connotation of motive, per se. Patricia, you are trying to narrow the definition to one segment of the CD community...

So I agree with doc...

Mitzi

[Kate Simmons]

I agree Mitzi. Geez, don't get me started on this stuff. It's the people who are important, not the label. I is who I is. Leave the labels for people who don't know.:happy:

[angelfire]

Miyojine, welcome to the boards. Every group of people have exceptions to the rule. While many crossdressers are straight, it certainly isn't everyone. There are some bi or gay CDers as well. The world takes all kinds, and CDers are no exception.


What MMORPG's do you play!? I'm a Guild Wars addict myself! :D

I have guild wars (and the expansions), but I haven't played in a while. Time seems to be something I generally lack.

[lucya_od]

hey girl friend, nice to meet you on this forum, i am also new to this too.
i would like to say hey to all of my girl friends, love ya, xxxxxxxxx lucya

[Stephanie Anne]

Does it really matter if we are straight, bi, or gay? If you like being a woman even part time, more power to you!

[jessielee]

dear Myojine,
love your name,
love your look!
and so glad you're here.
so sorry you are surrounded by so much negativity and potential violence.
we are admirers of and creators of beauty, just like gfs. gentle souls or scrappy times, a full range, just as among ggs, and we are all here.
hope i can be a good sister to you.
hugs,
jessie

[Myojine]

So many nice and accepting people!!!! i could get used to this!
I have been Gone for like EVER!!!!:wave: I bought a nintendo wii:yahoo: and had other stuff and school and BLEH!!!:dammit: the whole mess of things, um i dont have a Gamer Tag(i dont like Xbox) But my User Name for Everything is Myojine. im lucky...i am the only one in the world with this name! Its 1230 here...:yawn:

[Myojine]

I should watch the lable in thing...i guess im still wondering where i belong in this horror of a world...
MY name has no ethnic origin because...get this:Peace:...I made it up, i took a famos Japanese name and twised it a little:google:me!

[DemonicDaughter]

I have guild wars (and the expansions), but I haven't played in a while. Time seems to be something I generally lack.

I haven't played much lately either. :( I've been trying to find work and get a few things in life straightened out. But I'm happy to report, I'm well on my way to getting back into some serious gaming (GW 2 comes out soon)! If you want, add me to your friends list and pm me if you see me in game. I run with a really small knit of gamer friends and we have a blast!


um i dont have a Gamer Tag(i dont like Xbox) But my User Name for Everything is Myojine. im lucky...i am the only one in the world with this name! Its 1230 here...:yawn:

Gamer tags isn't just an xbox term, its any game really that requires an online ID. But I'll add you to my friends list and if I see you online, I'll message you. :D

[erickka]

Forget the labels. They shouldn't even be discussed here. We are all unique individuals, and that is about all that needs to be said. I feel that labeling is best done by those narrow minded individuals tha constantly try to define "normal" Welcome Myo, and make yourself at home. I think you will fit in very well with this forum.

[Raquel June]

The main thing to consider is that 3-5% of US males, at least, are or would like to be CDs. Being gay or not has nothing to with it.

Care to substantiate this? To say X number of people are CDs requires you have a very rigid definition of CD and a decent sample size. I've never seen anything even close to a valid analysis. Most of what I have seen is ridiculously vague. Some would say any guy who ever thought he might get a kick out of trying on his girlfriend's panties is a CD, which would probably be 50% or more of men. Some would say you have to self-identify as constantly having feminine feelings and wanting to look like a woman, which would probably be less than 2% of men. Don't just randomly start citing bogus statistics as though they were facts.


A CD has a feminine side that needs to be expressed, and this is usually done with CD. In this sense, if you feel you have a feminine aspect to your personality that needs to be expressed by donning female attire, then you are one of us, a CD. Any other inclination you have is a different aspect to your personality.

First, you're contradicting yourself. You say that a CD has a feminine side USUALLY expressed through CDing, as though "crossdressing" did not by definition involve dressing, then you say a CD has feminine traits that NEED to be expressed through dressing. Which one is it? Second, you're just wrong. Both of those definitions are too restrictive. Nevermind the fact that you're totally ignoring FTM crossdressers.

Wikipedia actually has an excellent definition:

The term cross-dressing denotes an action or a behavior without attributing or proposing causes for that behavior. Some people automatically connect cross-dressing behavior to transgender identity or sexual, fetishist, and homosexual behavior, but the term cross-dressing itself does not imply any motives. However, referring to a person as a cross-dresser suggests that their cross-dressing behavior is habitual and may be taken to mean that the person identifies as transgendered.

The reason this forum exists -- the reason is called "crossdressers.com" is because the term is all-encompassing. Perhaps you should start your own forum and call it StraightGuysWhoNeedToExpressTheirFemininityByWeari ngSkirts.com.

And honestly, a lot of us really don't know our motivation. Some days I think crossdressing is something I could do without totally. Some days I think it's just a lotta fun. Some days I think it's just a good way to show off and be different. Some days I so desperately want to be a real girl that I want to die because I can't. Who put you in charge of laying down the rules of what qualifies as crossdressing?




This much too simple a definition and way off the mark. Perhaps you should do a little homework. There are definitions out there for CD and yours doesn't fit, at least not in the real CD community. It sounds like something someone in society would say who does not understand or recognize us. Read some of the topics on this forum related to why we dress.

Fetish, dressing to attract a male boy friend may well be reasons for donning female attire but these people are not true CDs in the sense of this forum, as far as I can tell. Do a bit of searching on the web such as Tri-Ess.org. Most of us are serious about what we do.

Patricia

Well as far as I can tell you're totally wrong. Perhaps you should stop being narrow and condescending. I would be more inclined to call Doc a transvestite, but guess what! Transvestites are crossdressers, too!

Tri-Ess.org does not speak for all crossdressers. Tri-Ess is very specifically a group of heterosexual non-transgendered crossdressers. They do not allow homosexuals. They look down on queens and transvestites. They have a very narrow margin of what they find acceptable crossdressing. If you just do it for a sexual thrill, you're a pervert. You need to actually identify with your femininity. But if you identify too much with your femininity and want to have sex with a man, or feel you're transgendered, then they don't want you, either.

There's nothing wrong with having a group that caters to a certain demographic. They might even wish to argue that they speak for the largest portion of the crossdressing community. But I can't help being offended with how they (and also you) work so hard to rigidly define it. (That said I'm sure there are plenty great girls in Tri-Ess, even if they'd prefer I didn't call them girls)

You come off as a little homophobic and trying way too hard to explain yourself. It's nothing but, "Hey, I like dressing up like a girl, but I'm totally straight! Really! That's what a crossdresser is! Crossdressers are straight! Crossdressers aren't perverts! Crossdressers aren't transgendered! I'm a normal guy!" That's fine. We're all cool with it.

The crossdresser doth protest too much, methinks.

I also can't help being offended that you're posting this silliness in a thread started by a gay crossdresser. How dare you tell her that she's "not a true CD in the sense of this forum" if she wants to attract a male. It sounds like she deals with enough abuse already. I'd kinda like to give Myojine a big hug and a kiss ... and you a kick in your boy parts.

[EDNA]

Yes! There are Crossdressers. That are not Gay. I have been Crossdressing and have been Gay. Since I was Eight Years Old and I have been with many Men and enjoyed every minute of it. There is nothing wrong in being Gay and if you think about it. Bi-Sexuals are half Gay. So do not feel bad about being Gay and go ahead an Crossdress. As it will sure turn the Men on. I have had a lot of great times. Meeting Men, at all Men and Mixed Group Parties. Whilwe I was dressed as a Female. The only thing that I am sorry about. Is that I a living in a Dry Town. No Gays and no Crossdressers.

Remember. That you are your own person. So do not let anyone put you down. Get out there and have a great time.