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jennCD
03-03-2008, 01:00 AM
...so on Friday night, my wife and I had watched an episode of a 4 hour marathon of "Him to Her" on the Discovery Health channel, which she'd called me at work to ask me if she wanted me to record it. As I wasn't sure if I had already taped those episodes, I told her to go ahead.

We caught the final episode which dealt with a married trans-woman looking to begin transition prior to telling her family, as well as a young trans-man having chest surgery.

It was nice to be able to watch these together but I could sense that my wife was somewhat 'off' by the time it was over and we'd prepared to go to bed. Who knows if it was simply exhaustion, or monthly emotional fluctuations or if it was the content of the program that kinda made her seem distant.. I'd guess it was a little of both.... but hey, by 2:am, I was tired as well.



...so then my wife comes up behind me while I'm at the computer during daily maintenance and she says "9:00 tonight... Channel 65".

Without thinking, I picked up a pen and sticky pad and scribbled it down and looked at her questioningly.

"A show for you.", she said, "Something you'd like,.. similar to what we watched the other night. It's called Taboo".

"Sounds like my kinda show, yep!" I said.

I recorded it but we only caught the last few minutes of the show which covered the SRS of a trans-woman planning on marrying another pre-op TS who was presenting as male for the purposes of the segment. We speculated a bit about how short-lived that marriage would be within the legal context once the partner transitioned as well.

My wife is open about watching this sort of programming with me and that is a great relief. We do talk about transgender topics enough to be at a good comfort level about it (at least conceptually and verbally), and we spoke tonight about the overall issues that have weighed on her since she found out. Her ability to imagine (or more precisely, the inability to NOT imagine) me presenting as jenn, since it is something we both agreed we're not comfortable with now, is a part of her sometimes-strong bouts of depression. Externally, she handles it all very well, but she's admitted that on the inside, she's "not really that ok".

It does sadden me to know that the woman I love, the best friend I'll ever have, may never be happy in the same way that I remember her being when we first began to date, but knowing that her knowledge of my gender identity issues may one day be the main factor in her lack of happiness, well... it does more than just sadden me...

What value would a smile have if it's more often hiding a frown?

Annie D
03-03-2008, 07:18 AM
My wife is my best friend, as well as she should be. We shared so many experiences together before I confessed my crossdressing to her. I know I should have told her before we married but I was thinking of only myself and my possibly losing her as a friend and as my lover. We have been married 18 years and I told her about 5 1/2 years ago. I could tell that she was uncomfortable with my crossdressing but she silently tolerated my fetish. I joined support groups and urged, pleaded and begged her to join me but she was reluctant and I didn't press her for public support. Because we had done so many things together before I came out, I wanted to share this also but she would have nothing to do with it. As a result of her not joining me, I dropped out of the two crossdressing clubs that are available in Dallas/Ft. Worth and became an indoor and at home crossdresser.

Recently I joined the forum and I asked her to join in order to get a better insight to Annie but as far as I know she has not done so. I have shared some of my posts and some of the other girls' thoughts as well. Many of your posts have said things in a way that I have been unable to communicate with her. Sharing my thoughts and your thoughts, ladies, have opened a new line of communication between us. In the past 10 to 14 days she has become more supportive, made suggestions about what I look like and how I can look better and really told me to not worry about what the public thinks. Her major concern is to NOT let our two teenagers know until they leave our nest.

My advice is to give her more time, be yourself but don't put yourself in a position of no return. I am not saying to give up your crossdressing but rather try to include her in your metamorphesis. You and she are traveling in uncharted waters and you may never know what her true feelings are until it is too late. How many times have we asked our SO, "what's wrong?" and gotten a "NOTHING !" reply? Then all of a sudden out comes of the bag that she has been carrying on her back everything that we have done for the past 10 years! Share some of the thoughts that the other girls post here, open the lines of communication, talk, talk, talk.

It seems that she is trying by sharing some TV programs with you and you may be on the road that leads to mutual understanding. Good luck and my prayers are with you!

deja true
03-03-2008, 07:20 AM
Jenn, I feel for you and your wife deeply. While good communication can help many of us in our domestic problems, it can't help all, I'm afraid.

At least you still talk. At least you're friends. I hope your love and friendship can win back your relationship.

(unfailing) respect & love

deja

MsToriJones
03-03-2008, 07:52 AM
Have you explained your "limit" on your fem side? How far will you go? would you have the surgeries? does she know your limits? Watching shows where one goes under the knife may make her worry that you will go under the knife and she will no longer have that man in her life.

Letting her know the limits [dressing limits (desire all the time, only on weekends, only at night, on occasion) , surgery (yes, no, maybe), sexually (M -vs- F desires)] may help her realize what she will have and what risk is or is not there. Her "depression" may be partly FEAR of losing you (HER man).

just a GG's thought on this

jennCD
03-03-2008, 12:41 PM
Letting her know the limits [dressing limits (desire all the time, only on weekends, only at night, on occasion) , surgery (yes, no, maybe), sexually (M -vs- F desires)] may help her realize what she will have and what risk is or is not there. Her "depression" may be partly FEAR of losing you (HER man).

Yep, I was pretty open about my own limitations regarding this area of my life from the start and I hope she takes it for what it is, being the truth. I know it's normal in her situation to second guess anything I would say about this and that's ok, I don't mind having to reinforce my position and I do think I'm not very pushy with my needs in this context. The limits that I've always imposed on myself (dressing only in private) seem to be holding up well so it's mainly an emotional/intellectual issue at this point. Her depression has mainly been about health/medical issues.


How many times have we asked our SO, "what's wrong?" and gotten a "NOTHING !" reply? Then all of a sudden out comes of the bag that she has been carrying on her back everything that we have done for the past 10 years!

LMAO... that sounds so much more like me than her!

:)
jenn

deja true
03-03-2008, 03:07 PM
"... and I hope she takes it for what it is, being the truth..."

But as she may have seen here, especially in the TS pages, and what she may have read into the TV programs, was that, no matter what we think or aver to now, things always change. Our mindsets always change.

She may understand the 'addictive' nature of dressing, but we must all also understand that a true addiction (if that is what this is) almost always leads to an escalation. That's what she fears, despite your protestations that you are at stasis in your dressing activity for now, she may feel that the inevitable escalation of desire for this is coming.

We grow. We change. The young grow faster than most of us.

respect & love

deja