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tifftg
03-10-2008, 08:23 PM
I have traveled for years and gotten past the fact that some unknown TSA inspector is going to see my heels, wigs, bras, etc when checking my checked luggage. My question regards carry-on bags and specifically the rules around liquids and gels. I have flown a lot but I haven't paid attention to women and their purses. So can anyone tell me if the only thing I take is a carry on bag and pull out the little quart plastic bag with shampoo and shaving cream. Will my foundation, blusher, mascara, lipstick and lip gloss, etc, etc go through smoothly or will they pull everything out in front of that line??

StephanieT
03-10-2008, 11:17 PM
From someone who flies weekly, just take out your baggie and put it in the tray. They have no idea what tray belongs to who. So many people in the line. They just look for things that violate the rules. If you don't take out the baggie, they will look at you and question the liquids and gels.

DemonicDaughter
03-11-2008, 07:07 AM
Not to mention, its not like everyone who sees a man holding makeup or wigs or clothing thinks they are CDers. Actually, a lot of people never even think about it. If asked, I'm sure they'd presume it was your wife's/gf's. Or just not think about it at all.

JoAnnDallas
03-11-2008, 09:37 AM
As for carry ons, I can tell that most times the person doing the x-ray, doesn't know who the carry on belongs to. Wife and I just came off a vacation and I noticed a couple of times, when the x-ray operator would spot something and hand it to another TSA, that TSA would ask Who the carry on belonged too. If it passes the x-ray machine, they are too busy to care who it belongs to.

DemonicDaughter
03-11-2008, 10:18 AM
Hope you don't mind, but this thread made me think and I started this thread:

Don't answer unasked questions (http://www.crossdressers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=78641)

Hope I did that right. :)

Eugenie
03-11-2008, 10:25 AM
There are two questions in the original post

About the first question, no doubt that the new security rules limit the amount of products you can carry in the little transparent plastic pouch. What I do is limit the stuf I carry for my "maleself" and try to only carry the strict minimum for my female makeup. I never had any problems.

On the question of having to face comments and give explanations, this has been welle replied by others here. The main thing is that the officer behind the screen doesn't pay attention to who'se bag she/he is seing. If your bag is being selected and you fear that your x-dressing things are going to be exposed, you may kindly ask for privacy before openning the bag.

When I need to carry more makeup and more women clothes, I just register my lugages. It makes me waist some time to collect my luggages at arrival, but then I avoid all questions...

:hugs:
Eugenie

tifftg
03-11-2008, 12:33 PM
but I think I got the answer. The question was around do women who go through security at the airport pull out their makeup (my wife has a separate makeup bag-but I haven't paid attention) along with the baggie of shampoo and toothpaste or it all has to be combined?:confused:

tiffany

joann07
03-11-2008, 12:41 PM
When I travelled in femme, last Oct, I made sure I packed whatever I didn't need in my check-in luggage.
The only cosmetic things I carried in my purse was lipstick, lip gloss, lip liner, and powder.
I made sure to put anything (liquid or semi-liquid [lotion]) in the plastic bag , such as, my contact lens solution and I think that was about it.
I don't think I carried any extra foundation, but if I did, I would've put that in the bag, as well.
Everything else, I left in my purse.
If you want to play it on the safe side, just to be sure, put everything the bag. Because it won't hurt. The TSA person may just say that, next time, you can leave whatever out and he or she will tell you what items you need to put in.

I did, however, take out my cell phone so that it was clearly in sight of the scanner.
My digital camera I also checked in my luggage, but this time I think I'm going to bring it along to document my trip when I fly to Chicago for Be-All.

You can also go to the Transportation Security Administration (TSA) website and it will list everything that you need to put in the bags.

Hope this helps.

Hugs!

Alice B
03-11-2008, 07:22 PM
Unless your items are in a clear plastic zip lock bag and the items are also in clear containers you can and often will be asked to remove them. Especially on flights to and from foreign countries. My wife and I travel a lot and she has been asked more than once to remove her lipstick and leave it, etc. It is best to simply put your make-up in your checked baggage and avoid the entire hassel. So much depends upon what TSA inspector you get and their mood. As far as them seeing your breast forms, etc in the X-ray. Who gives a shit!

Eugenie
03-11-2008, 07:50 PM
I don't know if the rules are different in the USA, but I've never had problems with makeup products, providing I was strictly the TSA rules:



"The following rules apply to all liquids, gels, and aerosols carried through security checkpoints.

All liquids, gels and aerosols must be in three-ounce or smaller containers. Larger containers that are half-full or toothpaste tubes rolled up are not allowed. Each container must be three ounces or smaller.

All liquids, gels and aerosols must be placed in a single, quart-size, zip-top, clear plastic bag. Gallon size bags or bags that are not zip-top such as fold-over sandwich bags are not allowed. Each traveler can use only one, quart-size, zip-top, clear plastic bag.

Each traveler must remove their quart-sized plastic, zip-top bag from their carry-on and place it in a bin or on the conveyor belt for X-ray screening. X-raying separately will allow TSA security officers to more easily examine the declared items. "

Of course there is always the risk of having an over zealous security officer who will give you a hard time, knit picking on the exact content of each item. Something one doesn't really enjoy to endure in public...

But so far it never happened to me in my European flights.

:hugs:
Eugenie

Seville
03-11-2008, 08:41 PM
From someone who flies weekly, just take out your baggie and put it in the tray. They have no idea what tray belongs to who. So many people in the line. They just look for things that violate the rules. If you don't take out the baggie, they will look at you and question the liquids and gels.

Thats my understanding, too.
They get more upset over my scientific apparatus
and FAA Approved batteries than anything else.

Eugenie: I was hasseled in Spain, coming and going.
Rather unpleasant, as I don't know Spanish.

Eugenie
03-12-2008, 03:29 AM
Eugenie: I was hasseled in Spain, coming and going.
Rather unpleasant, as I don't know Spanish.

Sorry to hear that. Unfortunately there are some Security Staffs who are over zealous or plain stupid or both.

I would be very careful in countries where there is a strong conservative view of religion. Right now it wouldn't be a good idea to enter Polland or the Baltic countries with things in your luggages that could give clues about your crossdressing... I'm a bit surprised that it happened in Spain which is now a very liberal country with regard to such matters...

Fortunately I never had any problem of that nature with Security Staffs at airports, so far, and I fly about three times a month. But I know it may happen...

If if was a flagrant case of discriminatory attitude towards your crossdressing, you may want to report it to the authorities after the fact. That's where belonging to an association of Crossdressers (Such as Tri Ess in the USA, CARITIG in France) or in some cases, belonging to an LGBT (The T in LGBT stands for Transgender...) defense group will be useful. Going alone in such harasment situations is neither easy nor efficient...

But I aggree this is a very bad situation... It is always sad to have to fight over something that shouldn't have happened in the first place.

That's why various associations are teaming up to fight against all forms of discrimination.

:hugs:
Eugenie