Female I.D. Card

[KateSpade83]

Most of us have our State's Driver's License, but I was wondering - can you also have a State I.D. Card that's you in femme? Can it also state your female? This would help lots when paying credit card in drag! Has anyone successfully done this?

[TGMarla]

Well, first of all, since things like drivers' licenses are recognized as official forms of identification, I doubt that they would allow you to have your picture taken in any kind of disguise. Furthermore, until you're actually a ways down the road in transition, and are actually going to legally change your sex, there's no way any official document of any kind is going to tag you as female.

Oh, incidently, due to some kind of oversight and error, my current drivers' license (with my guy pic on it) does have me listed as female. I think it's kind of cute.

[Alana65]

Oh, incidently, due to some kind of oversight and error, my current drivers' license (with my guy pic on it) does have me listed as female. I think it's kind of cute.

Marla,

Is your real first name usable as a girl's name ? It's possible that whomever typed up the form for use on your license, thought you were female from your first name. I'm not asking to know what your real name is....just had that thought out of curiosity.

[TGMarla]

Nope. It was just a clerical error.

[CrossdressinGoth]

The idea of having a legal ID with your female name and stuff would be great, but under this, I dont think anywhere would allow purposely for anyone to have that done.

[TxKimberly]

Well, I understand that it's not exactly the same thing, but I have several accounts with Bank of America. Their ATM/Credit cards have your picture on them and I asked if I could get one with my female picture on it. I was told absolutely BUT . . . . it had to be the ONLY picture associated with my account. In other words, I couldn't have one card with one pic on it, and one card with another. They would happily associate my "Kim" pic with the account, but that would be the ONLY picture on ALL of my cards.
So not the same thing but I'll bet it is much the same concept. I'd be willing to bet that you CAN get your State Drivers License picture taken in fem, but that would be the ONLY picture and ID they will use.

[CharleneT]

I agree with TxKimberly, with one added bit: if they knew that you were a man dressed as a woman, it is unlikely they will let you do that. It would be a "false" identity in their view and not legal.

[celeste26]

I can use my wife's credit card without problems why would it make any difference if they thought you were just your wife using your credit card. Just sign it appropriately.

[AmberTG]

I read somewhere that the state of Michigan will allow you to get a seperate ID card with your female ID on it, although they won't change your gender marker. It's also easy enough to get an updated picture on your driver's license, although, once again, they won't change your legal ID on it. You can legally add your female name to your birth name, which will allow you to get a state ID card with your AKA name on it for legal purposes. You will have to go in front of the Probate Court judge to explain the change for legal purposes, and the filing fee for legal name change in Michigan is $150. I'm planning on doing that this spring as a step in my transition. MI won't allow you to change your gender marker unless you've at least had an Orchiectomy.

[joann07]

Here in Florida, you can get a Florida state ID card. It's just as valid as a driver license for identity purposes, and there are no pesky required tests.
You can get one with a picture of you in femme, but you'll have to use your male name and all that.

The only issue that you may encounter is if you get pulled over, while in drab.
When an officer check's your ID, the picture that shows up on his computer would show you in femme.
The database, does not keep alternate pictures of you so the picture that they take of you, in femme, will overwrite your male picture.

The only way you can replace that femme picture with your male self, is to get a new drivers license, in drab.

[KateSpade83]

Well, I can do an unusual thing. I had an IL Driver's License, but I'm temporarily living in Houston, Texas. So I was thinking I could just have a Texas State ID in drag no Driver's License! And I'd keep this Texas Drag ID forever!

[TxKimberly]

I agree with TxKimberly, with one added bit: if they knew that you were a man dressed as a woman, it is unlikely they will let you do that. It would be a "false" identity in their view and not legal.

Actually I think even then it is not a problem. This IS the United States and you ARE allowed to present in any fashion you darn well please. Women change their hair every day, from short to long, long to short, blonde to brown, black to red, etc, etc, and they run in to no issues along these lines. If you want to appear female, that is entirely up to you. Of course they WILL insist that you use the appropriate gender and name - those things are not optional. Your appearance however is entirely up to you.


Well, I can do an unusual thing. I had an IL Driver's License, but I'm temporarily living in Houston, Texas. So I was thinking I could just have a Texas State ID in drag no Driver's License! And I'd keep this Texas Drag ID forever!

Kate, one thing you should know. In the great State of Texas it is illegal to have both, I State DL and a State ID (I checked). With your DL being from a different State you MIGHT get away with it, but then again you might not. I remember my Drill SGT telling us 25 years ago that you can do anything you want, just don't get caught! lol

[Sally24]

I doubt that they would allow you to have your picture taken in any kind of disguise.


The idea of having a legal ID with your female name and stuff would be great, but under this, I dont think anywhere would allow purposely for anyone to have that done.

Currently at least Georgia and Maine allow you to have Both a drivers and a non-drivers id. Wigs and makeup used in the normal fashion cannot be considered a "disguise" as long as they do not obscure the natural features of the face. If enhansing your appearance was illegal many genetic women would probably not let them take their picture without makeup! I have both a male picture id (drivers) and a female picture id (non-drivers). They both have the same legal info on height, weight, sex, etc... Both are legal ids for all purposes except of course opperating a motor vehicle.

Take note: things may change with the "Real ID Act" from the feds. There are still a few states trying to keep this from happening but I don't think they will win. Keep you eyes open for changes that will be coming as things are implimented across the country.

http://www.crossdressers.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=51518&d=1186166662
Here is one of our past threads on this subject.
http://www.crossdressers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=64017

[DanaR]

[B]Currently at least Georgia and Maine allow you to have Both a drivers and a non-drivers id.

My understanding is that the State of Washington will allow the same. I.D. with a fem picture and boys name and other info.

[jaina]

No name or gender marker change, but I've had recent passport, driving lisence and work visa photos taken while dressed.

No problem what so ever at any of the offices and even US TSA takes the ID without any problem.

[Joy Carter]

In Ohio, the drivers license and state ID are both legal documents. And attempt to provide false information, is a violation of state law. You can't have both, a drivers license and a state ID. There is no prohibition how ever to manner of dress. But a wig and makeup, might not go pass the licence photo requirement. Because you would be disguising who you are.

[victoriamwilliams1]

Oh, incidently, due to some kind of oversight and error, my current drivers' license (with my guy pic on it) does have me listed as female. I think it's kind of cute.

First:

Marla, I know another person like this who is male but the birth certificate has him listed female.

Now, most places take an secondary form of identification. Yesterday I was considering creating my own female ID based on a driver license in fact I was going figure out how to create one of my own, I do know that a few girls Carry a TG id card that contains the same information as there license, however I have a totally different last name. I do have an ID I made which is an work ID to a company I created and it does not exist and it is fun to see the reactions of people when the see a female work ID.

My suggestion is to find out if they would take a secondary form of ID or just create one that stays in the wallet that looks like an official work ID.

[jennifer41356]

"Kate, one thing you should know. In the great State of Texas it is illegal to have both, I State DL and a State ID (I checked). With your DL being from a different State you MIGHT get away with it, but then again you might not. I remember my Drill SGT telling us 25 years ago that you can do anything you want, just don't get caught! lol[/QUOTE]"

Kim
was this changed recently..about 10yrs ago i went and got an ID card. I still have it though it has expired. I had to keep my male name on it , but it has a fem picture..I have been debating whether to get another one, but I dont get "carded "anymore

afew weeks ago I got stopped for speeding and I was in girl mode and gave him my DI and he didnt bat an eye, so again I was thinking maybe I dont need the ID card now

[KateSpade83]

Man this is so complicated! If I can get a counterfeit femme ID that will pass too, maybe I'll just do it that way! I mean, it's only purpose is not to get caught by male ID while shopping.

[DanaR]

Several years ago, there was a gal at the Esprit Convention in Port Angeles WA, that we had doing I.D.'s I think that she was from Oregon. She had several different state looking I.D. cards that were available. I had one made for me and it looked almost like my Washington drivers license. It said at the top of the card Washington State Indentification Card, or something like that. If had my fem picture and name and for I.D. number I listed my Washington State Drivers License number. I figured if I did get into some kind of situation, this along with my drivers license would help get me out of it.

[Niya W]

Ok here is my 2 cents.l California you can have both a state ID and and Drivers license. I have both en femme but not on purpose.


I got my state ID en feme then I lost my DL. Turns out they use the last picture you took when you renew or say you lost your DL. Since the last pic I took was for my state ID , they used that for my DL pic.

[Joy Carter]

Man this is so complicated! If I can get a counterfeit femme ID that will pass too, maybe I'll just do it that way! I mean, it's only purpose is not to get caught by male ID while shopping.

Just why do you think you will be "caught" while in drag ? Using a fraudulent ID for any official purpose, will get you in plenty of hot water. Don't do it. Rather let someone think you a guy in a dress is easier.

[Niya W]

my state ID

[Joy Carter]

Several years ago, there was a gal at the Esprit Convention in Port Angeles WA, that we had doing I.D.'s I think that she was from Oregon. She had several different state looking I.D. cards that were available. I had one made for me and it looked almost like my Washington drivers license. It said at the top of the card Washington State Indentification Card, or something like that. If had my fem picture and name and for I.D. number I listed my Washington State Drivers License number. I figured if I did get into some kind of situation, this along with my drivers license would help get me out of it.

I'm telling ya danar. Don't ever use it for anything official. You could get in big trouble for a fraudulent ID. I don't mean to be harsh with you. Just giving you good knowledgeable advice.

[Nicki B]

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:whistling:

[Niya W]

lol I have one of those

[DanaR]

I'm telling ya danar. Don't ever use it for anything official. You could get in big trouble for a fraudulent ID. I don't mean to be harsh with you. Just giving you good knowledgeable advice.

Times have changed since 9/11, and this was a couple of years before that happened. But, thanks for the concern.

[victoriamwilliams1]

Maybe you just need one of these (http://www.beckysweb.co.uk/tranny-licence.asp)....


:whistling:

I have that one too, I never printed it though.

I forgot in my last post, when I was pulled over I used my normal male ID, what you would need to be concern about is when the officer as what female name you use as it may be recorded and possibly placed on your drivers file. I knew a person who is away for life who's male and female names show up on there file.

I think the root of the question is for shopping and not official TSA or HSA, The question is what name is on your credit cards? If you have a female name on your credit card and you appear as such you should not have any problems if you are in a store where they do not require ID unless you exceed the amount set by the retailer. I was told a few years back at Rite-Aide that if I would have used my debit card they would have ask for ID and I think because they wanted to know who I really was and that it would have a male name on it.

I use the best thing for purchasing while out. CASH no ID is required and it is accepted everywhere:) Just figure out how much you need and if you need more go to the ATM.

[Michl41]

Hey girls....how many of you have a tranny license, like Niya, Nicki and I have???

[Dalece]

I have one of those names that can go either way but live in Ohio so I can't

[Suzzie]

Thanks Victoria,

I'll use it to get into the dance club next time. BTW, that would be on the Sixth April. I'll keep everyone posted as to how it went. hehe Hugs.

Suzzie

[Amy Hepker]

I know people in Iowa that have had their drivers License picture taken with them in female mode for their male License.

[Joy Carter]

Times have changed since 9/11, and this was a couple of years before that happened. But, thanks for the concern.

Fraud is fraud. Even before 911.

[Niya W]

I have one of those names that can go either way but live in Ohio so I can't

most people look at my name and say Carrie.That use to irritate me.

[JoAnnDallas]

Here in Texas, you can get a State ID card. Not sure what the requirements are, but some of the girls in my Tri-Ess group has gotton one. Great if you want to fly enfem. LOL