How did you get your Female name?

[kaitlyna]

I'll wait to share my story to see if this thread picks up. The origin of mine lead to a huge revelation as to the whole, I believe, Genesis of my dressing. I'm curious as to the other stories out there. Did you pick your own, did your SO or someone else?

Ciao,
Kaitlyn

[AmberTG]

I picked my own name. I "tried on" a bunch of different names and Amber just seemed to fit me like a favorite piece of clothing, so that became my name.

[Sophia KT]

I made mine up: 'Sophia Knox-Thundercliffe'. Sophia because I'm reading Greek at the mo. and it means means 'wisdom'. It also sounds quite sweet.

I can't explain 'Knox-Thundercliffe'. The latter was a name of a customer, which I though was cool, and I stuck 'Knox' in front of it out of pure high spirits.

Can't wait to hear you story.


X

Soph

[Nicole Erin]

One day I was sitting at the bus stop, and I felt a sharp blow to the head.
When I woke up later [with a horrible headache] I was standing before a group of secret agents who had kidnapped me. They gave me some ibuprofin and that soon rid the headache.
They explained that they knew I was a CD and explained that they had picked a female name for me and informed me that it is "Erin".

Yes I was very scared at first until they all pulled off their suits and we all danced and sang to the song "Barbie girl" in our boas and pink lingerie.

We got tired of dancing and singing after about an hour and we got dressed up like cindrerellas. They took me to their favorite restaurant and during dinner, they initiated me into their group, the "CinderFellas". The initiation was I had to use the woman restroom, and afterwards, I have to wear a strawberry pink wig and walk into a biker bar. I did all this and nothing bad happened. I went back and sat down and we all ate. So now I am part of their group.

The thing is, I have to use Erin as a name or I could lose my membership and those agents will come to my home and take away all my woman clothes. Big deal you say? Well yeah, most of my clothes are womens. They have agents that I don't know about [I think they are the girls with strawberry blonde wigs] who will watch me when I am with my CD friends. The agents see if my friends call me "Erin". In fact, I think they are watching my Internet moves as well.

So I know it is complicated but that is how I got my female name.

[Claire3]

im claire!

[alisontv_uk]

my femme name comes from when i first started dressing quite a few years ago. a school friend of mine named alison who i was fond of. the name reminds me of her and she had good style. something i dont have nowadays lol.

Alison
xx

[kaitlyna]

When I was picking my name, I kept coming up with Kaitlyn Marie. That's always been the name I wanted to choose if my wife and I had a daughter. While going through my head as to why, it finally hit me that my mom told me years ago that Kaitlyn Marie was the name picked out for me if I was born a girl. This was shortly before ultrasounds, mind you. That lead me to start thinking about how early I started "dressing" and I think it was very early (5 or 6). I remember my mom, who due to my birth couldn't have any other children, telling me frequently how much she wished that she could have a daughter as well as a son. I was/am very close to my mother, especially since I was an only child and she was a stay at home mom. My father on the other hand was a very masculine disciplinary type of dad. I remember when I became a teenager, my dad told me that if I got my ear pierced he would put me in a dress. That and my Grandfather teasing me when I was young because of my "long hair" (barely to my shoulders) that I was his granddaughter, definitely didn't allow for open discussion of my curiosity. I'm sure that my mind somehow wanted to be a girl for my mom, but knew full well the wrath that would be laid down if I ever discussed it with anyone. It was in a discussion with my wife on what my female name would be that this all came crashing down on me like a ton of bricks. It's nice to, at least, partially understand why this has been such a draw to me. Anyway, I've rambled on for too long now. Just thought I would share the story of the origin of my name.

Ciao,
Kaitlyn

[Amy Hepker]

Mine came from the song, AMY by Pure Praire League.

[TracyH]

So I know it is complicated but that is how I got my female name.

This might be the best story I've ever read on this site.

[Sharon]

I saw "Sharon" laying around in the name files, not being used while every derivation of Tiffany, Brittany and Lolita had long since been grabbed up, so I snuck it out before some other miscreant could take it away from me.

BTW -- my real name is Sapphire Désirée, but the story behind that one is much too long -- and potentially incriminating -- to get into.

[kaitlyna]

One day I was sitting at the bus stop, and I felt a sharp blow to the head.
When I woke up later [with a horrible headache] I was standing before a group of secret agents who had kidnapped me. They gave me some ibuprofin and that soon rid the headache.
They explained that they knew I was a CD and explained that they had picked a female name for me and informed me that it is "Erin".

Yes I was very scared at first until they all pulled off their suits and we all danced and sang to the song "Barbie girl" in our boas and pink lingerie.

We got tired of dancing and singing after about an hour and we got dressed up like cindrerellas. They took me to their favorite restaurant and during dinner, they initiated me into their group, the "CinderFellas". The initiation was I had to use the woman restroom, and afterwards, I have to wear a strawberry pink wig and walk into a biker bar. I did all this and nothing bad happened. I went back and sat down and we all ate. So now I am part of their group.

The thing is, I have to use Erin as a name or I could lose my membership and those agents will come to my home and take away all my woman clothes. Big deal you say? Well yeah, most of my clothes are womens. They have agents that I don't know about [I think they are the girls with strawberry blonde wigs] who will watch me when I am with my CD friends. The agents see if my friends call me "Erin". In fact, I think they are watching my Internet moves as well.

So I know it is complicated but that is how I got my female name.

Wow, can you pass some of that this way?

[kaitlyna]

BTW -- my real name is Sapphire Désirée, but the story behind that one is much too long -- and potentially incriminating -- to get into.


Oh, come on now. Feel free to change the names to protect the innocent and all of that. I'm way intrigued now.

[tricia_uktv]

From my parents - don't we all get our name from our parents. My Father was Patrick, so I feminised it a bit. My Mother's stage name before she had me was Margaret Dale. So I'm Tricia Dale. Easy :)

[SweetCaroline]

I've had a connection with the name "Caroline" since I was fourteen. I didn't have very many friends growing up, and lived in a rich fantasy world. In one of my fantasies I was a rock star, and the bass guitar player in my band was named Caroline Scott. Since then there was always a Caroline character in my fantasies. I eventually used the name for a character in a comic story, later a novel. I added the middle name Emily after Emily Dickenson, since I liked writing and felt a kinship to her reclusive lifestyle. That and I thought Emily was a pretty sounding name. When I started posting on the internet en femme, and started going out, I knew my name could never be anything but Caroline Emily, and it never will.

[DanaR]

My wife gave me the suggestion of Dana.

[Hermione Simpson]

i chose my own name, hermione because i'm a big fan of harry potter, and she's my favourite character and simpson because it's my mothers maiden name

[Nicole Erin]

BTW -- my real name is Sapphire Désirée, but the story behind that one is much too long -- and potentially incriminating -- to get into.

So you were kidnapped by that secret group also?

[srinn]

I still haven't made one. My real name could easily be a female name and while ago I actually heard someone calling out my name in the mall and turned out they were just calling out their young daughter with the same name as mine hehe...

[KellyCD]

My very first crush that I can remember was a girl named Kelly, I've always like that name.

And I havn't met that many other "kellys" in my life.

[Jena11]

Well, I am still not sure about Jena, however I really like it. I mostly have tried to take a female version of my male name, but I am so use to using intials that I need to stick with something that starts with J. I also asked my friends and got there thoughts. JC

[KeriB]

Quickly, for those who've read my posts here in the past, I was going by the name Selene.... I've since changed to Keri. I chose Keri primarily beacuse it's a more usable name IRL, it seems to fit me much better, all my friends call me Keri in WoW.. and oh yeah, my wife likes it much better!

[Stephenie]

It is the feminazation of my middle name. Which the feminine vioce in my head said was her name.

[Carroll]

wife gave it to me

[pamisme]

I was out driving and thinking about dressing and said to my self
she is going to do that (dress) I who ? I have have to have a name if some one asks so I started to think who I was. I listed a lot of names and the only one that fit was Pam. So I am Pam and Pam is me

[candie]

my name came from a friend of the family I really liked it and I didn't have to change my initials

[Paula G]

I picked the name myself. The feminine form of my given name is very unusual, so I took the feminine form of the name historically associated with my real name. The G stands for Graham, a name I thought went well with Paula.

I have thought about changing it to either April or Rachel, but Paula is now a part of who I am.

[Julie York]

I picked Julie York from the French novel "Mon amour pour le caoutchouc" about a Brothel Madmam, Julie York, who takes under her wing a young and vulnerable girl from Paris called Saphire Desiree.

[Tammy298]

I picked out the name myself. It rhymes with my childhood nick name, Tommy!

[deja true]

BTW -- my real name is Sapphire Désirée, but the story behind that one is much too long -- and potentially incriminating -- to get into.

BUSTED!



Julie York :I picked Julie York from the French novel "Mon amour pour le caoutchouc" about a Brothel Madmam, Julie York, who takes under her wing a young and vulnerable girl from Paris called Saphire Desiree.


"Mon amour pour le caoutchouc" = "My Love for Rubber"


OOOH!

[MentalMercury]

That is hilarious MlleErin.. and then I noticed the avatar and caption.. and laughed some more, good stuff!

[CD Susan]

I named myself Susan because it is a cool name and it starts with an S and has 5 letters just like my guy name. Can you tell us how you got your name? By the way I think you are really cute.

[ReginaS]

My first ex-wife, who ended up leaving me largely because of the crossdressing, gave me my name though she does not know she did it. One of the first times she saw me dressed she said to me, quite sarcastically, "What do I call you, Rogerina?" I shortened that and corrected the spelling. It also worked well when I was just first beginning to socialize en femme because it sounded enough like my male name that I would respond even when I was nervous. Now I have credit cards with that name and I almost answer more readily to Regina than the other name people know me as when I am presenting as male.

[CD Susan]

My previous post was directed to MentalMercury. Sorry I didn't specify.

[Raychel]

I played wit a few differant names before I settled on Raychel. Just an extension on my name.

[Jilmac]

I've mentioned this in previous threads but I'll say it again. My male name is Bill, I started using Billie as my femme name about 15 years ago. my wife knew about my dressing but never approved so I stayed hidden. At that time I didn't know what the internet was and I was contacting other dressers through the personal ads in my newspaper. I used a PO box for all my correspondence. Because of a mixup at the post office some of my confidential mail started coming directly to my home. I stopped using Billie and stopped all correspondence so my wife wouldn't know.

Fast Foreward to 2003, I decided to try using a femme name again (still using a PO box), but all I did was change the B to a J and I became Jill figuring that if the post office screwed up again and sent mail addressed to Jill to my home, I could tell my wife that it was probably a typo. I didn't start using the computer until my wife passed away last August and I had already established myself as Jill so I continued using the name. My screen name, JiFem9ll is the first two letters of Jill, followed by a cryptic spelling of feminine, followed by the last two letters of Jill. Luv and :hugs: Jill

[TGMarla]

I just bandied it about for a while, and landed on "Marla". It's a pretty name, rather feminine, and it suits me well.

No special reason, really.

[Patty]

Fem version of my male name :battingeyelashes:

[Jill Mac]

i picked my name, no real reason behind it, like the name & i think it suits me.

Jill

[karynspanties]

When I was about 14, I had a friend whose mother was a night shift nurse and divorced. This was back in about 1974. I used to go over there after school and hang out until he had to go to grandmas house for the night while she worked. Well, she used to walk around in her white full slip, bra and panties that were quite visible underneath her slip. I went over there one day when I knew he was already gone, she said I could come in and keep her company while she got ready for work. When she was in the bathroom, I saw a full slip in the laundry basket in the laundry room. I snuck in and was holding up against me "sizing it up" when she came in and caught me. Let's just say her name was Karyn and she taught me alot about wearing slips and panties that year.

[Darlene Rochelle]

Darlene was a cartoon character in Cosmo,back in the 70's,and I am an avid Cosmo reader. Rochelle is my mother's middle name,and I think it is a lovely name.

[Melora]

When I was starting this whole internet thing.. A Looong time ago..
I started out as Rachelle69. It was the name my Parents would havve given me IF I was born Female..
Melora.. Is in honor of my favorite Female singer, who fronts the Goth, Rock, Trip Hop, Chamber band RASPUTINA.. (Please check them out!).
I lately take on the name of Katie, or ElectricKatie.. = http://www.flickr.com/photos/42351650@N00/ Because it was a name given to me by MSN.com a long time ago, (It probably is not around by now), But I "kinda" Liked it! :)
Melora/Katie

[Jada Rose]

My wife said that I should use my initials, so Jade became Jada and I love roses.

[LisaSae]

I dunno, for some odd reason Lisa always rang with me. Its feminine and I've always liked it so here I am.

Lisa

[Fiona K]

According to my mother I would have been "Fiona" if born a girl, so it seemed logical.

It's also the name of an ex-girlfriend so there are two more reasons my wife hates that I'm a tranny!

[JoAnnDallas]

It was what my mother had picked out if I had been born a female. This was long before being able to find out the sex of the baby before birth.

[kaitlyna]

According to my mother I would have been "Fiona" if born a girl, so it seemed logical.

It's also the name of an ex-girlfriend so there are two more reasons my wife hates that I'm a tranny!

Glad to see that I wasn't alone in my reasoning. For those that chose the girl name your mother picked out if you'd been a girl, do you feel that your dressing is some result of psychologically trying to be what your mother wanted somehow deep down?

[Fiona K]

Glad to see that I wasn't alone in my reasoning. For those that chose the girl name your mother picked out if you'd been a girl, do you feel that your dressing is some result of psychologically trying to be what your mother wanted somehow deep down?


Nope! We're NOT close......

[Lesley Ann]

I thought I'd use my Mother's name, Dorthy, which I did, then after my wife died I met my Partner Marie, who suggested Lesley, which when I registred my name for Equity some hundred years ago or so (I cannot remember the exact number) there was already an Equity member with the same name. So I changed it to Leslie Howard, and Ann is my sister's name. To night we are going out for a meal (it's my birthday) and when I booked the restrauant they asked my for my name, I nearly said Lesley Ann, because that is who I feel, and think I am, Lesley Ann!

[JoAnnDallas]

For those that chose the girl name your mother picked out if you'd been a girl, do you feel that your dressing is some result of psychologically trying to be what your mother wanted somehow deep down?

Nope, just decided it sounded good and I liked it.

[frenchie]

Well my wife and I were brainstorming one night (when I was dressed)and after trying out a few we went with what was the most comfy,from there on Gina had arrived,simple as that.It fits and I think I wear it well....FrenchieGina

[steff9271]

i wish i had a good tale about how i came by my name but all i can say is my wife picked it for me. its a bit awkward when she calls me steff in public though. lol

[Genifer Teal]

We've done this many times before. Mine is quick so here it is again. Genifer because Gen is only one letter off my birth name and it sounds almost the same. I wanted to know I was being called so sounding similar helps. Teal because it combines so well with Gen. Gen-Teal. Once I explain that I wait for the "aha" moment. No one ever forgets my name after that.

Gen

[Chloe' Buffington]

Chloe' -Sounds like my my male name, and the name of the kid on south park who gets killed a lot.
Susan - for my first love, an older woman of 20 , I was 17
Auld - The last name of my favorite aunt

and my SN is CSA****@..., for all you history buffs you already know what it means.

[MarciManseau]

My sister called me Marci when she dressed me up, and it just felt right to me.

[kaitlyna]

My sister called me Marci when she dressed me up, and it just felt right to me.

When she dressed you up? (Intrigued)

[TxKimberly]

I wanted a "pretty" name and Cinderella was already taken!

[KatherinePaige]

It just seemed sexy and befitting my alter ego.

[Kimberly Marie Kelly]

The Name of a beautiful women I knew decades ago who embodied everything female. Someone I would have liked to be married too.:battingeyelashes:

[TxKimberly]

One day I was sitting at the bus stop, and I felt a sharp blow to the head.
When I woke up later [with a horrible headache] I was standing before a group of secret agents who had kidnapped me. They gave me some ibuprofin and that soon rid the headache.
They explained that they knew I was a CD and explained that they had picked a female name for me and informed me that it is "Erin".

Yes I was very scared at first until they all pulled off their suits and we all danced and sang to the song "Barbie girl" in our boas and pink lingerie.

We got tired of dancing and singing after about an hour and we got dressed up like cindrerellas. They took me to their favorite restaurant and during dinner, they initiated me into their group, the "CinderFellas". The initiation was I had to use the woman restroom, and afterwards, I have to wear a strawberry pink wig and walk into a biker bar. I did all this and nothing bad happened. I went back and sat down and we all ate. So now I am part of their group.

The thing is, I have to use Erin as a name or I could lose my membership and those agents will come to my home and take away all my woman clothes. Big deal you say? Well yeah, most of my clothes are womens. They have agents that I don't know about [I think they are the girls with strawberry blonde wigs] who will watch me when I am with my CD friends. The agents see if my friends call me "Erin". In fact, I think they are watching my Internet moves as well.

So I know it is complicated but that is how I got my female name.

MlleErin,

Didn't I tell you to lay off the acid? ;-)

[SarahLynn]

The most beautiful teacher I had in school was named Bonnie. Yes she was of Scot decent and yes I would have chosen that name but it didn't feel right to take from her what didn't belong to me. And yes I did have a major crush on her. I am a writer when not driving a truck and so I chose a name which is the name of a major charactor in my book. In the book Sarah is from the "South" but does not have the double name as I write it here, but I thought since Sarah was already taken I would adjust the name a bit. I imagine her to be as lovely as the lady who was my teacher in school.

SarahLynn

[Mercedes]

A female friend that I told (only other person I told was my SO) suggested Mercedes and I liked it immediately. I have only met one other Mercedes and no, she was not spinning on a pole. She was actually very cute, fun and I am sure would have had no problem with crossdressing.

Mercedes XOXOXO

[teresa jeen]

my name comes from the most wonderful woman i ever have known, teresa jeen is her lable name in the music industry. positivily the most wonderful woman ive ever met ('cept momma') sings like an angel, snores like a frog!!! god i loved her!!!

[Brianna1]

I originally chose Briony as my male name is Brian and it was the name my cousin Alison gave to her daughter. She never said it was after me but I was her very favourite cousin when we were kids...so I guess I assumed that's why she did it. I didn't really like the 'ring' of it so I changed it to Brianna...much nicer, I think. :)

[jessie_cal]

I'm really unimaginative, so I took my middle name and added an I. I would have just used the feminine version of my name, but that's my sister's name. That just felt icky.

[kristinacd1]

my name is what i was going to be named if i was born a girl...

[Miss Tessa]

I am Cubana and Siciliana
So I choose a Sicilian/Italian sounding first and last name


Tessa Talamari
or my older one I use less Tessa Midori

[MarciManseau]

When she dressed you up? (Intrigued)

Read my previous post if you want to know more

http://www.crossdressers.com/forums/showthread.php?p=1121443#post1121443

or msg me at Yahoo. I'm MarciManseauNY there.


Hugs, Marci

[SandyR]

Sandy "color of my guy hair" R first letter of my last name. Plus, my aunt is Sandy.

Seemed simple at the time.

SandyR

[Scotty]

Mine is my real name....and everyone calls me Scotty...

[kaitlyna]

my name is what i was going to be named if i was born a girl...

Seems to be a bit of that, including myself.

[ConnieLove]

I took the name Connie,from a girl of the same name.She was the most beautiful and feminine woman i ever met.Her makeup,hair,and dress,she was just captivating

[crusadergirl]

Lets see i got the name crusadergirl from a character that my best friend at the time. He told me i could use the character so when i joined this site i didn't have a girl name so used crusadergirl. I knew i needed a real girl name and the first name that came up was Kirra i have always loved that name.
So thats how got my names simple huh.

[heterocd]

well before i was born and my folks were just sure they were having a girl this time, my name was to be lisa marie. I think this is partly to blame for my gender disturbia. anyway i'm not sure how much i like lisa marie. for now i'm using Morgan which is my real middle name. My girlfriend says she likes it, and it seems to fit. I have introducd myself by my real first name when crossdressed before as i am not very practiced.

[Dalece]

I got my name from my Mother real name Dale whitch can go either Male or Female I just added a ce on the end for my Femme name.

[Seville]

Never had a Fem name until I got involved
on this board. It just didn't seem right having
a male name conversing about Fem things.

Now I wish I had a Fem name all those
years I was C/Ding.

Oh yeah...I was looking at a map of Spain
and Seville just popped out.

[sheena]

I use to be quite a gamer, I loved rpg's, and would always play a female warrior. I tried a few names but Sheena became the one I always used. When I came out with who I really was, TG, I used that name. And then I looked up the meaning. It's Celtic/Gaelic, My roots, and means "God is gracious". Then My doctor when filling out a form so I could get a name change on my driver license asked me if I had a middle name, to which I responded that I had been thinking about it but didn't have one at the moment. I went to sleep that night an awoke with the name Renee which is French for 'reborn' also Gaelic. My new name I believe was given to me by God who is walking with me on this journey.
:)

[carhill2mn]

When I attended my first Tri-Es meeting I was asked to sign in using my fem name. I did not have one at the time. I chose Carole because 1) it is a variation of my male name so, if someone called my Carole and I responded no one would be the wiser; 2) I have many female friends named Carol/Carole and one that I particularily admired was Carole so, I chose that name.

[Jennifer Marie P.]

Jennifer was my first crush and the name stuck with me and Jennifer is one of my best friends and occasionally she helps me out with my CD

[dakota_ann69]

Well not too complicated here, I have always liked the name Dakota it means friend or ally in indian. Ann was the name of a very close girlfriend in college.

[Daphne]

I don't know where my name of Daphne came from. Actually I hadn't really thought about a Female name untill I decided to join this forum. However when I did, I thought about using my Male name, but decided against it.

So after much thought, hmmm, thats where the smell of smoke came from :heehee: I decided on Daphne. It's a nice name, I like it, so thats what Im going to use :heehee:

[susancheerleader]

I got my name from the first girl I had a crush on when I was younger. And, I've always loved that name so I desided to use it for ME. :battingeyelashes:

[Alex!]

My first girlfriend's name was Andrea. My favorite show is the new Battlestar Galactica, which had a guest actress named Michelle Forbes. I merged them together when I needed a login for Yahoo.

In retrospect, I should have picked Alexandra. I've always liked that name.

[cemab4y]

I like the name "Cheryl", it is close to my birth name, and it sounds good to say it. Cheryl is more than a name, she is a person, with thoughts and feelings, and kindness.

[Hilary]

In some respects I was lucky as my middle name on my birth certificate is Hilary. I hated this as a child and I was always beeing teased when other kids found out. Now I love it.

[akaCathy]

I chose the name Catherine O'Malley in tribute to two strong women. The first is Catherine the Great for her strength, leadership and her many sexual conquests, hence "the Great". The other is Grace O'Malley, the pirate queen of Scotland who lead a nation, was the terror of the seas and stared down the Queen of England.

Hugs,

Cathy

[Toots]

My name is Toots and it does not come from " Tootsie ". It comes from my cat who I named for a woman who is no longer with us. She was the girlfriend of a fellow musician. She liked my songs and would tell people about them. She looked like Amy Winehouse but this was thirtyfive years ago. I did not know her well but I loved her and miss her today. I will be Toots forever.

[Claire3]

I chose my name from a collegue at work,blonde and sexy.There you go.Just like me.:love::love::love::love::love::love:

[Aurora27]

I was driving home a few months ago and I thought 'gee, I need a female name' and Aurora just sprung into my head an instant later. I've always been partial to names beginning and ending in 'a'. Then I realised that the name was also metaphorical, the shifting colours and patterns of an aurora representing my own constantly shifting personalities, as well as being powerful and beautiful - which I aspire to be.

[TSchapes]

I just wrote about this on my blog, it was one of those long thought out moments. If you're curious, here's the link: Did your parents name you Tracy? (http://tracyschapes.blogspot.com/2008/04/did-your-parents-name-you-tracy.html)

Love, Tracy :love:

[xoAmandaxo85]

well for me...my cousin and i have been really close cause were the same age and so when i started wearing her clothes i took her name amanda because i thought it suited me

[Kayla86]

Mine is the name of one of my best friends from high school.

[Traci_Ann CD]

I came up with Traci Ann is I've always thought Traci was a very sexy name for a woman and Ann just seemed to go right along with it.


I thought about either Susan, Traci, or Nancy (as I've always thought these were very sexy names for a woman) and finally decided on Traci.

On a side note.....all the Traci's I've known were very sexy women. The Traci (she spelled hers Tracie) I knew in HS was a junior when I was a freshman and was also a cheerleader.

[Jamie Parks]

I also picked my own name Jamie because it just seemed right plus when I was a kid I had a crush on the bionic woman her name was Jamie and the last name Parks was the last name of a friends g/f she was so girly always had on cute clothes and ALWAYS had her nails painted she made a very big impression on me of what a cute girl looks and acts like(at least to me) .

Jamie

[RichardCD]

I have not chosen a femme name yet. As someone stated that having a male name talking about femme stuff does not seem right. I may have to create one and I would use Rachael as a femme for Richard. I may have to re-register with that name. Unless a Admin would change it for me.