What is everyones problem?

[noname]

Sigh, another confusing day. It's sunny, warm and spring is here, so I just had to get out. So I put on a polo shirt and a knee length denim skirt to run a couple of errands.

So I pull in to get gas. Simple enough. Then a van of guys who I'm guessing mow lawns decide to mutter things, peek around the pumps at me. As if I wouldn't notice. Another guy walking to pay stares at me solid walking in and stares back solid walking back. Then I head over to starbucks. I get stared down with eyes glancing up and down from some guy. Once in the store, this other lady is giving me these dirty looks. So I ask myself, what gives?

I really don't understand peoples problem. Why do they care. Any what does it matter what genitals I have? I don't know if this makes any sense, but the most upsetting part is that if I was female no one would have blinked twice. Why should women care? I would think they wouldn't as they wear pants and skirts. Why would guys care? I assume they think i'm gay ( I'm not ) wouldn't they think, cool, more chicks for me to chase after.

Like I mentioned, the part that bothers me the most is I feel I'm not given the same respect and choices GG's have. Do I need to wear a shirt that apologizing to everyone for the way I was born?

[Ibuki_Warpetal]

1) People stare because they are curious and absorbing information.

2) People's reaction depends on their upbringing.

People who both stare and give you dirty looks are dirt. People who stare and are just curious are just that, but I know they still make most of us uncomfortable because most people do not like to be gawked at.
I think someone was gawking at my nails at the store yesterday. It was pissing me off even though there was no harm. Sometimes I like to be looked at. Sometimes I don't. What I really hate is when people act disgusted as if I've done something wrong, but I say to hell with those people.

[Jamie M]

People are stupid creatures at times , it's been duscussed a thousand times before on here i'm sure but it makes it no less easy to deal with when suddenly you're the target of their attention. For the average joe it would seem that anything out of the usual and at all different from the norm causes them to have their entire day disrupted and that seems to evoke anger and general negative reactions. From what you've said you didn't do anything wrong and you shouldn't have been treated as such but just put it all behind you for now , chances are that it was just timing to have so many idiots in one place at one time and you'll never see them again anyway . Life's too short to let small minded people upset you and change your ways , so as Ibuki says "To hell with them !"

[noname]

1) People stare because they are curious and absorbing information.

But why curious? They don't stare when if they see a female wearing a skirt. In my mind it's no different. As for information, there is no more information that a female wearing a skirt. I almost always wear pants, but it was such a nice day and it's what I felt like wearing.

I just want to live my life and be treated normal. Hmm.... maybe people are not normal. I'm about to the point that I'm going to start addressing every woman I see wearing pants with 'sir'.

[Joy Carter]

I hope I don't upset you, but you gotta learn to ignore these reactions. Your going to get them. It's part of being a CD. There is nothing you can do. So you might as well learn that people won't change. You made the first steps in just accepting you. Accept others as well.

[Ibuki_Warpetal]

But why curious? They don't stare when if they see a female wearing a skirt. In my mind it's no different. As for information, there is no more information that a female wearing a skirt. I almost always wear pants, but it was such a nice day and it's what I felt like wearing.

I just want to live my life and be treated normal. Hmm.... maybe people are not normal. I'm about to the point that I'm going to start addressing every woman I see wearing pants with 'sir'.

I for one stare at EVERYTHING. It's just something I do. I stop staring at people if I think they might get uncomfortable, but there are people like me who just cannot takes our eyes off things that fascinate us. That is the nature of curiosity and it does not wane unless we become bored of the subject.

They stare at you because you are different psychologically. You are breaking social norms by making this fact visually apparent. This challenges their beliefs and causes a defensive response. In their head, they are trying to figure you out while not trying to seem too interested for fear of their mates reaction to their interest. They do this by presenting a mocking or aggressive demeanor. They can tell it frusterates you so they feel more confident in their action and rationalize that your shame is justification for their ridicule. It's quite backwards, animalistic behaviour.

They cut grass because they are incapable of grasping complex subjects. That's an unfair generalization, but I'm sticking to it.

[Jamie M]

please forgive me if i'm wrong but from reading previous posts , i get the impression that when you wear these clothes you are not actively attempting to present as female , would that be correct ? If so i'm afraid it may sound harsh but i'm not all that surprised you get some funny looks . Don't get me wrong i'm not saying that they are justified for behaving how they did towards you but can you understand why they were looking ? You stood out from the crowd by not wearing what 'society' finds accetable for men. Call it double standard, call it hypocrisy, call it whatever you like the fact is that's life, it's harsh and it's not right but that's the way the wold turns. As i said don't get me wrong i'm not saying that you should conform to their views of the world and it's great to see people sticking two fingers up to convention but in doing so a certain amount of this kind of reaction is i'm afraid to be expected.

If i have got the wrong end of the stick i do apologise and in all instances there is never any excuse for rudeness or general ill feeling to be directed towards complete strangers regardless of dress, that after all is when socitey really breaks down

[Vicky_Scot]

I really think that we can not expect "society" not to stare at us.

It is not the norm for a man to be seen wearing a long denim skirt so people stare.

A woman that lives in my city has piercing of all descriptions covering most of here face so people stare because its not the norm.

A man/woman who is extremely tall gets stared at because it is not the norm.

The factor that joins all of the above is simple.

None of these are the norm.

[MJ]

But why curious? They don't stare when if they see a female wearing a skirt. In my mind it's no different. .

I am Curious ??

from your post it seems you were from the waste up dressed as a guy
just wearing a skirt .........if this is true what were you thinking... and you wonder why people are looking.

There is a very big difference between guys and girls ...

my god and you wonder why we get a bad rap in the real world .. a nut job who is a guy in a skirt !!!! .. according to them

At least try to pass... any wonder why the world looks upon as they do !
What if there were children around ? you would look real cute in jail..

[Lisa Rose]

I hope I don't upset you, but you gotta learn to ignore these reactions. Your going to get them. It's part of being a CD. There is nothing you can do. So you might as well learn that people won't change. You made the first steps in just accepting you. Accept others as well.


Ditto. Ignore the ignorant.

[Lisa Rose]

I am Curious ??

from your post it seems you were from the waste up dressed as a guy
just wearing a skirt .........if this is true what were you thinking... and you wonder why people are looking.

There is a very big difference between guys and girls ...

my god and you wonder why we get a bad rap in the real world .. a nut job who is a guy in a skirt !!!! .. according to them

At least try to pass... any wonder why the world looks upon as they do !
What if there were children around ? you would look real cute in jail..



I totally disagree with you here, MJ.

I followed Noname to this forum from a 'Men in Skirts' forum. If you ventured over there you would find almost as large of group there as you do here. And they are adament about NOT trying to appear as women. To this date, I've heard of none of them ending up in jail because of their choice of attire. You're over reacting with that comment.

[Tree GG]

... Sometimes I like to be looked at. Sometimes I don't. ....

Welcome to the world of GGs. If I'm enroute to tennis, and walk into the gas station in short skirt people stare. Whoopty big deal.

You can't make anyone know why you dress the way you do just from looking at you. Did you just warmly smile back or return the glares? Eye contact & a friendly smile will most times defuse the situation.

[Erica Lauren James]

Did you just warmly smile back or return the glares? Eye contact & a friendly smile will most times defuse the situation.

Excellent point Tree, it's all in our attitudes and are response to the situation.

Erica

[Littlej10]

Tre has given the perfect response mechanism, automatic for a GG with a lifetime of experience but more difficult for CDs with a male response programmed in. Practice the smile and try not to get up tight, it works for us too most of the time.

[Tiffany Rose]

I have a bright greenish blue mohawk...I sometimes get stares. It doesnt really bother me anymore.

[JoAnnDallas]

From your discription, some stared at you, but no one started yelling or even hassled you. I'll let you in on a old secret, when someone stares at you that way, just smile big at them and mabey even give them a little wave. You will find they quickly will mind their own business. I have found that if you smile and wave, then all of a sudden realize they are staring and most people then get self conciense of the fact and will quickly turn their interest to another area.

[Maria2004]

It's amazing, but there's almost nothing you can do that won't provoke some type of negative response from certain people sometimes. For example, I ride a Japanese made sport bike and always wear protective gear, nothing to do with cross dressing at all, yet I get crap from a very small segment of the motorcycle riding community regularly because of it. One day I rode my bike to the grocery store to get a few things and was standing in line at the check out with my crash jacket on and my helmet in my hand, and some guy walked in and saw me, stopped and said out loud "zoom zoom asshole". I looked him in the eye smiled then ignored him, some kid twice my size but half my age, probably been drinking. Felt a tiny bit sorry for him because I knew one day he was gonna go down.

At the end of the day the question is who controls your life? "You" or "other people". Don't let other people control your life.:cool:

[Jamie001]

:Angry3::Angry3::Angry3::Angry3::Angry3:

MJ,

I COMPLETELY DISAGREE WITH YOU AND AM VERY OFFENDED BY YOUR POST!!! THIS IS ONE OF THE MOST OFFENSIVE POSTS THAT I HAVE SEEN IN A LONG TIME!! :Angry3::Angry3::Angry3::Angry3:

There are some of us that don't want to pass and that consider ourselves a "third gender" and that gender is a continium between male and female. I don't want to pass and there are other folks on this message board that feel the same way. I just want to be myself. It is really that simple.


I am Curious ??

from your post it seems you were from the waste up dressed as a guy
just wearing a skirt .........if this is true what were you thinking... and you wonder why people are looking.

There is a very big difference between guys and girls ...

my god and you wonder why we get a bad rap in the real world .. a nut job who is a guy in a skirt !!!! .. according to them

At least try to pass... any wonder why the world looks upon as they do !
What if there were children around ? you would look real cute in jail..

[Rachaelb64]

In a prefect world we could wear what we want.

People are sheep and when you don't move with the heard the sheep get worried......

[Angie G]

It's just not what they think is normal so I wonder what they do that's not normal.
Don't let it get you down hun. :hugs:
Angie

[Vicky_Scot]

:Angry3::Angry3::Angry3::Angry3::Angry3:

MJ,

I COMPLETELY DISAGREE WITH YOU AND AM VERY OFFENDED BY YOUR POST!!! THIS IS ONE OF THE MOST OFFENSIVE POSTS THAT I HAVE SEEN IN A LONG TIME!! :Angry3::Angry3::Angry3::Angry3:

There are some of us that don't want to pass and that consider ourselves a "third gender" and that gender is a continium between male and female. I don't want to pass and there are other folks on this message board that feel the same way. I just want to be myself. It is really that simple.

MJ is entitled to their opinion as you are.

A man in a skirt................of course people will stare...........does not make it right............see my previous post above to why it is only human nature to do so.

[Vieja]

Different strokes etc. All you can do is ignore those that are exceedingly rude. As has already been mentioned it is normal to stare automatically at something you don't usually see. When you realize you are staring you usually look away.

Vieja

[MJ]

I totally disagree with you here, MJ.

I followed Noname to this forum from a 'Men in Skirts' forum. If you ventured over there you would find almost as large of group there as you do here. And they are adament about NOT trying to appear as women. To this date, I've heard of none of them ending up in jail because of their choice of attire. You're over reacting with that comment.

the problem is society's views a man in a skirt will draw a lot of attention all bad ..
personally i don't care what my friends wear .. there are time i too go out without makeup or forms and i get the same response as Noname ..
my point is people will always look upon us as odd ball types


:Angry3::Angry3::Angry3::Angry3::Angry3:

MJ,

I COMPLETELY DISAGREE WITH YOU AND AM VERY OFFENDED BY YOUR POST!!! THIS IS ONE OF THE MOST OFFENSIVE POSTS THAT I HAVE SEEN IN A LONG TIME!! :Angry3::Angry3::Angry3::Angry3:

There are some of us that don't want to pass and that consider ourselves a "third gender" and that gender is a continium between male and female. I don't want to pass and there are other folks on this message board that feel the same way. I just want to be myself. It is really that simple.

Jamie ,
Please forgive me but i speak the truth .. i am all for support and god knows i have needed it . but at the same time i call it as i see it .
as i said there are days i don't Evan try to pass and i get read "is that a boy or girl .. " That or it ..is my middle name

What do you expect in a society that still thinks in a two gender way ??? clearly a man in a skirt will get noticed.. And then you freak out ..because of peoples reactions ...
sorry i call it as i see it ...
just for the record "a nut job who is a guy in a skirt !!!! .. according to them " according to THEM ...not me ..

[Vicky_Scot]

the problem is society's views a man in a skirt will draw a lot of attention all bad ..
personally i don't care what my friends wear .. there are time i too go out without makeup or forms and i get the same response as Noname ..
my point is people will always look upon us as odd ball types



Jamie ,
Please forgive me but i speak the truth .. i am all for support and god knows i have needed it . but at the same time i call it as i see it .
as i said there are days i don't Evan try to pass and i get read "is that a boy or girl .. " That or it ..is my middle name

What do you expect in a society that still thinks in a two gender way ??? clearly a man in a skirt will get noticed.. And then you freak out ..because of peoples reactions ...
sorry i call it as i see it ...
just for the record "a nut job who is a guy in a skirt !!!! .. according to them " according to THEM ...not me ..

MJ you are someone I can relate to. I too call it as I see it but unfortunately as you have probably experienced in this past as you have in this post got what may seem a OTT reaction from someone.

But this does not make your point less valid and you are spot on.......society still only sees two genders.

[Emily Anderson]

I think it's very brave of you to appear as a "guy in a skirt", and in the perfect world nobody would care or make any comments. However, I think you are deluded and provocative to expect to be able to go about your business without anyone paying any interest. The fact is that humans are naturally interested in anything which is "not normal" for whatever reason, whether this be a positively or negatively. It would take a few hundreds, thousands, or perhaps a million other guys to wear skirts before the world settles on this being normal behaviour and no longer a spectacle.

I don't condone the people staring at you, and as others have said you can try to smile or at least show (positively) that you don't really mind what they think, but don't expect people to go about their business without any interest. That's just foolishness.

[RikkiOfLA]

Just for fun, I'm going assume that the title of this thread is a legitimate question, not a rhetorical one.

What is everyone's problem? Homophobia.

I'm not assuming you're gay. They are assuming that. And they're afraid of you because of that assumption.

In modern society, men have power. And like all power, people expect that power be exercised "properly." Men have a dress code, where women (who as a gender are not as powerful) do not have as much of one. Women can wear anything they like. Men have to dress a certain way, like people in uniform, because they have power. (Please don't take this as a slur on women. There are lots of individual women who have power because of occupation etc. and they have dress codes too.) If you violate your dress code, people feel they have a right to know why. And a man in a skirt violates the dress code, but it isn't clear enough why he's violating it. He's making a statement maybe, but not a clear one. If he dresses and acts more like a stereotype (hippie, effeminate gay, clown, guy who is so rough and tough he can dress however he wants, etc.) there won't be the stares.

Before I went full time, I used to dress androgynously a lot. I got stared at a lot too. I learned to stare back, with a kind of "What's your problem?" look in my face. I stared them down, in other words. It's a good skill to learn--it comes in handy for crossdressers. Women in miniskirts have to do the same thing. So do women who are dressed waaaaay out of fashion. In fact, I noticed that I had to do it less when I crossdressed than when I was dressed androgynously! When I went full time, life became easier (than dressing androgynously).

I figured out that by staring the starers down, I was conforming to the last of my stereotypes two paragraphs back--I was being the guy who is so rough and tough he can dress however he wants! It works. But wasn't I going round and round the gender tree?

Blessings,
Rikki

[Daphne]

I have to agree with MJ on this one. WE live in a scocity that still thinks in only 2 dementions, or genders. To them all crossdressers, and the like are nuts. It's only thoes rare individuals, that don't care what the person is, that accept us.
I know as an excample. The city I use to live in, Id see people dressed as goth or punk, and my gut reaction, Im sorry to say was: 'Stay the heck away from me, you weirdos' Now thoes people could be the nicest people you could meet. But because they look the way the do. You think of them as weird.
Maybe noname did look like a man in a skirt, that I don't know. Not all of us can pass in puplic.
But as either MJ or someone else said. There are alot of ignorint people out there. And your going to encounter them, all you can do is 'try' and not let it bother you.

[Deborah Jane]

Why don,t we just get T,shirts with...
I,m a Crossdresser
Deal with it
Emblazoned across the front...
If nothing else, they won,t wander what we are!!!

[Ibuki_Warpetal]

Why don,t we just get T,shirts with...
I,m a Crossdresser
Deal with it
Emblazoned across the front...
If nothing else, they won,t wander what we are!!!

^Want.


Eye contact & a friendly smile will most times defuse the situation.

I agree. Showing fear or frusteration to a predator makes you a tastier prey.

[Julie York]

I've been out sometimes in my pink fluffy bunny rabbit costume and people stare.


I think they are just ignorant.



:meditate:

[jill s]

I once wore a tail, it was about 3 ft long and was spotted like a Dalmation. I wore it everywhere for a few days. Many just pointed and snickered but some were scared. Some people can't deal with new or unfamiliar stuff i.e. trannies, gays, marriages outside the family tree. You/we are a threat to some small minded folks.

[Sophia KT]

They are dim people, ignore them. You have enriched their lives by presenting something they only avoid reading about in books; they stare because they don't know what else to do, hence 'dimwits'.


Sophia

[Joy Carter]

I've been out sometimes in my pink fluffy bunny rabbit costume and people stare.


I think they are just ignorant.



:meditate:

I'm watching you too see where you hide your eggs...........They do that in the isles don't they ? :D

[obsessedwithpantyhose]

small minds cant wrap around the fact that some men want to wear womens clothes......fukthat..womens clothes/mens clothes...this country is so sexualy repressed it aint funny........

only live once,,,live your life the way YOU want to live it :D :2c:

[Beth785]

Just a little bit o background info. I'm an engineer for a railroad. I drive trains. There are 2 people on the train, me and the conductor. It's a rule that when we are stopped and are meeting another train, we have to get down on the ground and inspect the other train. Sometimes, we are on this train alone together for almost 12 hours, not being able to read a newspaper, a book, or basically anything fun. We have to be very creative to entertain ourselves. The other day, I made me a tin foil hat. I got down and inspected a passing train wearing the hat. When they went by, they were staring, pointing and laughing. So, to bring my point in this mess, if someone sees something they are not used to seeing, ie a guy wearing a tin foil hat, or a guy in a skirt, they don't know what to make of it. They just keep looking at it until it's either out of view or until their brain makes some sort of sense of it. Same deal as someone mentioned before about wearing a rabbit costume. People are afraid of the unknown. When they are afraid of something, they usually attack it, most likely in a verbal way.

[Stephanie Anne]

Do not ever expect to live in a world that accepts your way of life. People crave anonymity and as such normalcy in not making a statement.

Whenever someone does or acts or looks in a way outside the accepted means of not making a scene and fitting in, they get stared at, made fun of, and/or rejected.

You cannot expect people to just roll over and think what you do and did was normal and not have a reaction.

If you want to continue to do as you did then you need to accept you will be singled out until such time as you can become transparent in society.

By being a man in women's clothes in public you made people feel uncomfortable and awkward and as such they reacted. Learn to deal with it or don't but I am afraid that like MJ I just can't have sympathy for the odd man out until such time as we become accepted.

[RichardCD]

I have always wondered if the not understanding and starring goes back to out primal instincts. The male of the species that was most attractive was the most lets say "manly looking". I often wonder if it is just the survival instincts that kick in ?
I in no way mean we are not evolved enough to understand. We all are. But from what I have read and what was taught to me, was the weaker of the male species was the odd man out. Now take a man and dress him in anything feminine and he automatically becomes the odd man out. The weaker of the species if you will, in the minds of others.
I am hoping this makes sense.

I was in NYC at Christmas time and I seen 2 men that were crossdressers. They looked very nice, and almost completely passable. My girlfriend glanced and never said a word.
I on the other hand looked at them and tried to make some eye contact, and I did.
Then I smiled and nodded my head at them as to say "GOOD FOR YOU!!"
They both smiled back and just kept talking to each other as they walked as a lot of others gawked at them. Some people just glanced, others whispered.

I personally could never pass as a woman. I am told I have a "Very Intimidating Look". When ever I am out and alone, people will avoid me. I walk through a store and people step aside. I am not sure if I give off some vibe that makes people be weary of me or what. If they took the time to get to know me they would see that I enjoy talking to new people. I love to make people laugh, and do very often. My girlfriend says one day I am going to kill her death by laughter. But my appearance just me as I am makes people not want to deal with me. I get looks form other guys at times for no reason. It is almost as if they think I want to fight them. I have been going through this all my life.

I have learned to just ignore people who stare at me, or move out of my way like I am covered in blood holding a Axe in my hand. I chalk it up to human nature.

[Carrie f]

You are, of course right. It's stupid, illogical and unfair. But I'm sure you realize as most of us do that life's not fair. What were all doing is outside the social norm (I personally think it will be the norm in the not too distant future. But it isn't yet).

I admire you for wearing a skirt out like that. And yes, it would be fun to look down my nose at every woman I see wearing pants and call her a pervert. At the end of the day, your complaints are legitimate but societies attitudes are only going to change over time.

I share your frustrations and agree with you. I'm just writing to remind you that the lawn mowers could have had a few drinks in them or just been having a bad day and been physically aggressive. Please be careful. Carrie

[Rachel Morley]

Why don,t we just get T,shirts with...I,m a Crossdresser Deal with it
Emblazoned across the front...If nothing else, they won,t wonder what we are!!!
I have a t-shirt like that. Here's a pic of me in 2006 saying something similar. :D

Just so as I don't get accused of taking the thread off topic, my take on this is .... it's the way of the world. Noname, you have my respect in going out wearing a skirt in what is otherwise boy mode. I would totally love to go out in just a short denim skirt, and a girls t-shirt with salt water sandals in the summer. The problem (if it is a problem) is that skirts are considered "girls clothes" and people are just not used to seeing guys openly wearing girls clothes. You, me and everyone else here is an anomaly as far as the rest of the regular, mainstream (boring?) world is concerned :) (I like being an anomaly) I'm sorry to say people looking at us goes with the territory .... even if we only wear one item (a skirt) which is considered by them as "out of the ordinary" :(

[Jamie001]

MJ,

I suggest that you visit www.skirtcafe.org. It is a site about men who wear skirts and other feminine items without trying to pass as women. Many of the men over there integrate skirts into their normal everyday life. Please check it out before passing judgement. We are not asking for anymore freedom than a woman already has. Women wear articles of men's clothing like neckties, shoes, pants, baseball caps, tattoos, and the list goes on and on. I just want the same freedom as a man and so do a lot of folks here and on skirtcafe.


the problem is society's views a man in a skirt will draw a lot of attention all bad ..
personally i don't care what my friends wear .. there are time i too go out without makeup or forms and i get the same response as Noname ..
my point is people will always look upon us as odd ball types



Jamie ,
Please forgive me but i speak the truth .. i am all for support and god knows i have needed it . but at the same time i call it as i see it .
as i said there are days i don't Evan try to pass and i get read "is that a boy or girl .. " That or it ..is my middle name

What do you expect in a society that still thinks in a two gender way ??? clearly a man in a skirt will get noticed.. And then you freak out ..because of peoples reactions ...
sorry i call it as i see it ...
just for the record "a nut job who is a guy in a skirt !!!! .. according to them " according to THEM ...not me ..

[bgirl]

The only way to keep from taking a 'shot' is to stay out of the line of fire.
As I see it, I have two choices. One, I can spend my time worrying about what other might think and why, or Two, not care what others may think. In the least I don't want to be any more judgemental of them, then they are of me.
Ther are two types of people in the world.
Those that understand. :thumbsup:
Those that don't.:thumbsdn:
Those that understand don't understand how those that don't understand, don't understand.
Those that don't understand, don't understand how those that do understand, can understand.
Understand? I mean what could be clearer then that?:brolleyes::brolleyes:

[Deborah Jane]

I have a t-shirt like that. Here's a pic of me in 2006 saying something similar. :D :(

I want one!!!:D

[MarciManseau]

But why curious? They don't stare when if they see a female wearing a skirt. In my mind it's no different. As for information, there is no more information that a female wearing a skirt. I almost always wear pants, but it was such a nice day and it's what I felt like wearing.

I just want to live my life and be treated normal. Hmm.... maybe people are not normal. I'm about to the point that I'm going to start addressing every woman I see wearing pants with 'sir'.

When women first began wearing pants, they were stared at and treated badly. That didn't make them stop, and we shouldn't allow ourselves to be intimadated either.

Personally, I prefer skirts and dresses, but I know most women don't now. The men that see me dressed up and looking feminine seem to appreciate it, and that makes me feel great :D


Hugs, Marci :hugs:

[Fab Karen]

When women first began wearing pants, they were stared at and treated badly. That didn't make them stop, and we shouldn't allow ourselves to be intimidated either.

Personally, I prefer skirts and dresses, but I know most women don't now. The men that see me dressed up and looking feminine seem to appreciate it, and that makes me feel great :D


Hugs, Marci :hugs:
"most women" is hard to put a percentage on, as it's a fluid thing. Some do at times, some never. So, again, I think the word MANY is better. If you go down to NYC you will see some women wearing dresses/skirts.

[Amy Hepker]

I think some of you have taken MJ the wrong way, she does not condem you for dressing that way she was saying that some people and a lot of them will look at anything that is out of place or different to look at. Down here in Florida, people cause traffic jams all the time because they have to stick their nose in everybody elses business. Like accidents or even someone getting pulled over by a cop. They back up traffic for hours. They stop in the middle of the road to see what's going on.

I myself will look at any female or person in a skirt or dress, as guys that is how we were programmed to act, like all other males. I also look at any female, I am heterosexual and will search out any female and look to see how nice she looks and dresses. I get Ideas from the way GGs dress.

Please don't be to quick to judge our own kind here as we are all in this together.

[MJ]

MJ,

I suggest that you visit www.skirtcafe.org. It is a site about men who wear skirts and other feminine items without trying to pass as women. Many of the men over there integrate skirts into their normal everyday life. Please check it out before passing judgement. We are not asking for anymore freedom than a woman already has. Women wear articles of men's clothing like neckties, shoes, pants, baseball caps, tattoos, and the list goes on and on. I just want the same freedom as a man and so do a lot of folks here and on skirtcafe.

Thank you for the link ..



I think some of you have taken MJ the wrong way, she does not condem you for dressing that way she was saying that some people and a lot of them will look at anything that is out of place or different to look at. Down here in Florida, people cause traffic jams all the time because they have to stick their nose in everybody elses business. Like accidents or even someone getting pulled over by a cop. They back up traffic for hours. They stop in the middle of the road to see what's going on.

I myself will look at any female or person in a skirt or dress, as guys that is how we were programmed to act, like all other males. I also look at any female, I am heterosexual and will search out any female and look to see how nice she looks and dresses. I get Ideas from the way GGs dress.

Please don't be to quick to judge our own kind here as we are all in this together.

and thank you Amy ..

[Nicole Erin]

If a man woears a skirt, in male mode, that doesn't reveal anything private, what would be the criminal charge? :heehee:

YOu know what is funny tho is when people are trying NOT to stare at something abnormal. One time I was at Walmart and found this bushy green afro wig [it was around St Patty's day] and I wore it walking around the store. [I was not en femme or anything] A few people about flinched when they saw this. Some people were trying really hard to ignore it.

Unless someone is wearing something really crazy like a bright green afro wig, I don't know why anyone would find it so fascinating. Maybe they don't get out much?

[EveMarie]

Next time wear this T, and make sure they understand the message:devil:

[Carly D.]

I love what you did.. very brave, I wish I could do that.. as far as reaction I can't say that I would have been any different.. only in my case I would be looking with awe.. wishing I could do that... to wear a skirt in public without trying to look like a girl doing it...

[DonnaT]

All I can add is, keep on doing what you want to do. The more people see it the more they'll not see it as something strange. I've gone out in guy mode wearing a jean skirt, and I think anyone else that would like to do so should go on a do it. A friend from another forum even went to college classes without wearing a wig or makeup.

Of course, like anything else, be aware of your surroundings at all times when you do.

[trannie T]

Yesterday I was in Starbuck's. A man somewhat over 7 feet tall came in. A few people commented about his size and most people stared at him. He was wearing normal male clothing and did nothing out of the ordinary, the only exceptional thing about him was his size.
People notice at things that appear to be out of the ordinary and will direct their attention to them.
If I were to wear a polo shirt and a denim skirt I would be amazed if people did not stare at me.