For those that underdress...

[kaitlyna]

So, I'm getting ready to go to a meeting which requires me to wear a suit under which I'm wearing my favorite panty/camisole/garter/stocking set and I realized that the more professional I'm dressed on the outside the more excited I get about being underdressed. Anyone else make this correlation or feel different?

[Michelle 51]

Yep but i find it a little frustrating to feel all that lovely femme stuff under my guy clothing and i just want to get home and get into a skirt or sometimes when i underdress the feeling goes away and i forget that i,m wearing panties etc because i wear them most of the time now that my wife treats them like my guy under wear and washes them and puts them in my dresser so it just seems natural to have them on.

[EjayeCD]

I really get a thrill when I underdress. I'm probably wearing prettier undies than most women.

[MsJoann]

It's been a way of life for me for years now. Men's underwear are horrible. It's bikinis for me all the way!

[putz0611]

As a GG, I find that I get a little thrill whe I'm wearing some prettier "underclothes." The funny thing is some people notice a difference in me when I have something nice underneath and they don't know.

[Emily Anderson]

I don't underdress when I go for a serious business meeting because I find that it breaks my concentration. I'd rather work hard and play hard independently.

[JoAnnDallas]

I underdress every work day. Panties, bra, cami, long acrylic nails, Pale Pink Nail polish, and Neutral color lipstick.

[Phyliss]

I had made some pretty decent sales presentations before, but one day I decided to be brave and was underdressed for a meeting, while being nervous about it, I concentrated on the sales presentation so much that I ended up making my best sale to date.
There's no turning back now, any meeting I need to attend, I make sure to be "properly" attired, underneath. Really helps to build self confidence.
If I can enter your house and make my presentation about home repair and close the deal while wearing stockings, panties, and a bra, I can do anything.

I suppose the ultimate, would be to be "fully" dressed, and pass as I close the deal, but I think that would be asking too much, still it's nice to dream.

[Notbychoice]

I wish I was brave enough to do that again. I was caught wearing panties in public while I was squatting looking for some guy shoes. the lacy waist of my panties were showing above my jeans. There was a real scene made in the shopping center. I thought I was going to hear the announcer on the PA announce it before I had a chance to get out of the store. Oh the good 'ol days when I used to wear panties 24/7. Now it's just a fear that I'd rather not deal with.

Cheers and good luck!

[susan2010]

I wear panties or pettipants 3 - 4 days a week. I like the way I really forget I have them on, then I move and feel them...what a thrill. Sometimes I get distracted when talking to women. I wonder "suppose I told them what I was wearing? would it freak them out or would they like it?"
Most of the time I'm pretty sure it would freak them out.

[Angie G]

I do I love under dressing in bot mode.:hugs:
Angie

[Tomara]

I also underdress , It just feels natural to wear a bra and panties under my work unifoms or casual male clothing . I am so comfortable that I sometimes forget that I am wearing them , I love the feeling !! :o Tomara

[kymmieLorain]

I do have a confedence feeling while I am underdressed while wearing male attire.

Kymmie

[trannie T]

Underdressing is fun, it is a combination of wearing the clothes that we enjoy and the thrill of thinking that we are getting away with a little secret.

[Laura_Stephens]

I underdress almost every single day. My job requires that I am dressed professionally. However, the dress code doesn't say anything about what I wear underneath.

[sfwarbonnet]

I underdress daily. FYI, I was diagnosed with MS ~20 years ago, and use a wheelchair or scooter now, so I would be likely to be recognized if I were impersonating a female here. However, I think men should be as comfortable wearing women’s clothes as women are in wearing men’s clothing, especially when suitable accommodations for a disability are available. I underdress frequently and am comfortable wearing women's clothing. But it is also suitable for full-time underdressing and offers accommodations for men who are handicapped. Through experience I have found the following specifics:

!) Slacks: Women’s pull on pants are much easier to put on than men’s belted pants. They do not need a fake fly, as the absence of it is usually not apparent, but I prefer non-figured and solid color, non-pastel pants so they are not readily identified as women’s clothing.

2) Pantyhose: An MD suggested that I wear support pantyhose to avoid the indentation in my lower legs that mid-calf or knee-high socks make. Pantyhose do not require anything that is not also needed with pull on pants. I expected that opaque ones would be best, so they wouldn't be readily identified as women's hosiery, but that isn't necessary and non-opaque pantyhose are more available (especially in summer). I have both off-black and beige nylons.

Another hosiery option is support thigh-highs. They are easier to put on than pantyhose but they pull down unless they are worn with a garter belt, which I think, gives pantyhose a slight edge as a garter belt is hard to attach and keep attached and may pull down too unless the wearer has a big difference between hip and waist measurements. Since it is an undergarment, it may be lacy and/or part of a short skirt as feminine characteristics won’t show anyway.

3) Panties: Underwear with a fly is unnecessary with pull on pants and pantyhose. Although there are no-fly men’s briefs, women’s full-cut cotton briefs work just as well, and are cheaper.

4) Slips: Shirttails tend to readily pull out of pull on pants and a bare back is usually uncomfortable when seated. A “solution” is to wear a tank top full slip that is short enough to be worn with slacks. Also they are usually made of a slippery material that makes it easier to pull on pants.

Other lingerie options to avoid a pulled out shirttail would be 1) a short bra slip with a small cup size so it could bs worn in "boy mode", or 2) a teddy with a crotch closure. Since these would include a bra or a bodice, finding them in a large size with a B or less cup would be necessary so they wouldn't be apparent under a shirt. A slip with a crotch closure and wide strapsappears to be ideal for wearing with pull-on pants to avoid a bare back and visible panties and pantyhose when underdressing, and wide straps would avoid apparent fem features if the straps were visible and/or touched. Slippery lingerie also makes it easier to pull on pants one-handed, and a bra or bodice might not be apparent anyway when underdressing.

5) Skirts: I noted with the short skirt on a garter belt that it is much easier to put on a one holer (skirt) than a two holer (pants) but a skirt would be an outer garment and is not usually part of a male’s wardrobe, so it would need to look like pants when the wearer is seated. I haven’t found a suitable one yet.

6) Purse: Keeping a wallet, comb, notepad, phone, and keys in pants pockets is awkward as it is hard to extract them when seated, and pockets in women’s pull on pants are often not very deep anyway. My “solution” is to use a small shoulder purse, which can either be worn or secured in a basket when that is available.

I posted these suggestions on a forum for ideas for those with MS. I have summarized the results therefrom as they may be relevant to other CDers..

1) A few people thought that my suggestion for men to wear women's clothes was "interesting". Some people found the same "problems" that my accommodations addressed, but they suggested alternative solutions that they found more PC.

2) but the overwhelming response asserted that men should only wear menswear and avoid "girl things". Apparently society is not ready to accept a man wearing clothes that are traditional for females, although these would offer "solutions" to the problem of identifying clothing that would provide accommodations for difficulty due to limited flexibility, lousy balance, exposed skin, and swelling of the lower legs.

p.s. I think that the threads entitled Wearing lingerie while in male attire , anyone fulltime - underdress?, Women's Glothes in Boy mode and the even older Suitable clothing are relevant here. I just went around the neighborhood on my scooter wearing a filled bra and pantyhose with women's pull-on shorts, Next is a skirt instesd of shorts, or a dress without the pink t-shirt too! Then "all the way". I want to keep moving toward being en femme 24/7, but I need to get my wife to accept me as a "girl" first.

[Karren H]

I don't know... Maybe I'm going through a phase here but underdressing just doesn't do anything for me lately... It used to... Now if I'm going to dress, its all the way, makeup and hair and by god I'm going out shopping or to the casino enfemme.. Or somewhere..

And even then there no real excitement any more.. Bras and hose are just part of the outfit.. Necessary... Hell I don't even care if thay match as long as they do their job!! Last thing I need is to hit the jackpot on a slot and jump up all excited and have a breastform fly out and nail the security guard walk ing by... Hahaha.

Oppppssss... Sorry... I'll take that back if ya don't mind.. :)

[JoAnnDallas]

Sfwarbonnet wrote:


5) Skirts: I noted with the short skirt on a garter belt that it is much easier to put on a one holer (skirt) than a two holer (pants) but a skirt would be an outer garment and is not usually part of a male’s wardrobe, so it would need to look like pants when the wearer is seated. I haven’t found a suitable one yet.

Have you looked at a SKORT which is a pair of shorts that also can look like a kilt. The skirt in my avatar is really a skort.

[christinac]

I just got my first pair of women's underware. Since I decided to go no hair down below, regular mens underware started to become almost painfully unconfortable.

[maggiecdva]

I personally think wearing something fun and sexy that feels good makes your outer clothing feel that much better. It also makes you feel better about yourself.
hugs - maggie

[linnea]

As a GG, I find that I get a little thrill whe I'm wearing some prettier "underclothes." The funny thing is some people notice a difference in me when I have something nice underneath and they don't know.

I definitely feel the difference, but I've grown pretty accustomed to it (as a matter of fact, I have to be careful at times because I forget what I'm wearing underneath--as in the times I'm in a locker room changing to play handball). But when I have nice, frilly panties on and a cami and stockings, I really feel good.

[Anita1day]

Hi All,
I tend to agree with Karen... when I put on my feminine wear for a public outing, it is all feminine... At 47 years of age I prefer to dress with class, the way a real lady would dress, and I go all the way with makeup and wig... that way it seems to allow the general public the ability to accept the concept of crossdressing more easily and, when I need to use the powder room I am not out of place:). After becoming hairless from nose-to-toes I too felt the discomfort of the hairless genitalia sticking to the hairless inner thigh when working and being in public as a male... my solution to that is a G-String Thong Pouch, preferably when made of a silky material... it allows for more comfortable movement and feels so sexy when there is really nothing between your skin and outer garments... FROM THE WAIST DOWN!! :eek: Very sensual...

[Cristi]

I guess 'the thrill is gone' for me as far as underdressing goes. I've done it for so long that it is just what I wear.

When I first went out underdressed, I was still in High School, so that was almost 30 years ago. That is a LONG time to try to keep things 'thrilling'. Now, I still underdress all the time (no men's things in the underwear drawer, so I don't have much of a choice).

But panties, bras, PH or tights, a camisole... that is just what I put on in the morning now. I don't FEEL dressed at all until I put a skirt or dress over them!

It may be strange, but the only small thing that still makes me happy about underdressing is every time I open the top drawer of my dresser to get panties in the morning. Instead of a drawer full of boxers and socks, I see a drawer full to overflowing with panties of all styles and colors, mixed in with a tangle of bras and camisoles (yes, my lingere drawer is a MESS, I just dig through it until I find what I need).

BTW: The only thing I have to wear that is minimally feminine for things like doctors visits is a few pair of Haynes cotton bikini panties in solid colors with no lace. I figure that unless examined really closely, they'll 'pass' for men's underwear.

[Jada Rose]

I think I only own 1 or 2 pairs of mens undies, but I still feel a little sunnier when I underdress. Just panties though, couldn't get away with bras. Too bad.:daydreaming:

[sfwarbonnet]

I think that clothes in the women’s or men's depattment is often a name-game. A short tank top slip in the women’s department is like an undershirt for a tall man; women’s panties are just no-fly briefs; pantyhose and thigh-highs are just high, light-weight. over-the-knee socks; capri pants for women are called long shorts in a men’s departmentl a skirt is often called a kilt for a man; and a woman’s purse would be called a manbag.

[Alaceann]

Underdress all the time 24/7. Bra panties and nightie for bedtime. During the day it's panties and pantiehose in the summer months, but in the winter months I add a bra and cami or teddy that can't be seen under heaver winter cloths.:)

[sandra-leigh]

I think that clothes in the women’s or men's depattment is often a name-game. [...] a skirt is often called a kilt for a man

A kilt has a very specific design, and requires 8 yards of fabric. None of my skirts even come close to being classified as a kilt.