Identity disorder?

[christinac]

What the @#$% is identity disorder? I didn't catch the whole thing, but that crap was just on the radio a little while ago. With all these new so called "disorders" popping up every day, I can't help but to feel that all these so called doctors and phycologist need medication for "disorder disorder".

[melissaK]

Dissociative identity disorder. Its no laughing matter - Google it and read up. The 'multiple personality disorder' has been renamed to be more accurate. It's a self defense mechanism that allows the mind to store memories and emotions of recurring traumatic events by piecemealing them in different personality aspects or alters. This allows the traumas to be processed into the conscious mind piecemeal as the person is able to handle it. The different personality aspects or alters don't share memories or emotions with the entire conscious mind.

I have fought with it several times in my life. Most recently about two years ago - it was a good six months of being fairly lost and it took sometime in counselling to put myself back together.

hugs,
'lissa

[Kimberley]

If you are referring to Gender Identity Disorder, it is a catch all phrase used in the DSM-IV to classify transgender and in particular transsexualism. It is a manifestation of Gender Dysphoria that is again a catch all for a host of maladies such as depression and anxiety that arise from transgender.

The next edition of the DSM is now underway and our community is split on whether GID should be removed entirely or whether it should be reclassified as an anxiety disorder. It is currently listed as a Sexual Disorder. There are solid arguments for both but one thing is for certain, no one wants it listed as a sexual disorder.

This is why there is such a hue and cry over this in ours and the LGB communities because the committee members of the Sexual Disorders section of the DSM are way out of step with current medical technology and research, their methods are shunned by everyone in our communities and it is pretty much unanimously agreed that they will do more harm than good if they remain on the committees. If they get their way, homosexuality and transgender will be listed as sexual disorders.

If Blanchard, Zucker, Bailey, Lawrence et al get their way it will be interesting to see the split it creates with WPATH.

I digress. Hope this answers your question. It is the short answer to a long explanation.

:hugs:
Kimberley

[melissaK]

Not all disorder's are new, there was a famous court case about them 70 years ago.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/78/DisorderinCourtTITLE.jpg

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0027529/


:-)

hugs,
'lissa

[christinac]

Sorry everyone, I was over reacting. Jacksonville is largely a "redneck" town and we had a fellow CD beat up outside a Alt. club and the police took two hours to show up and didn't even bother to write a report.

[queerunity]

There is a movement to get GID replaced

http://www.gidreform.org

[wishonastar]

There is a movement to get GID replaced

http://www.gidreformadvocates.com


These people have nothing better to do. Everyone has a disorder of some kind. We all react differently to stress. Nervous breakdown, going postal, suicide, multi personality disorder, Cross-dressing or just checking into a monastery and meditating for 12 hours a day (I am considering doing this)!

They will never stop redefining mental differences; (notice I did not say problems).

I seem to remember that they are considering redefining Schizophrenia and calling it something else. Schizophrenia is and was incorrectly associated with multi personalities because Schizophrenics have a tendency to be manic depressant, sometimes in a great mood and other a very depressed or nasty, (totally different personalities). A good friend of mine was Schizophrenia and died in San Quentin prison. ( I never knew what to expect when we got together!)

So do not make too much of these redefinings. I know the article suggested that surgery (SRS) for a “mental disorder” is not correct, but it will not hold up. One of these days they will spend the money for the brain research and find conclusively that gender disorders are hardwired in the brain and are not disorders at all but just different! The only reason they are disorders is because of the unforgiving society that is really where the mental disorder is!

Personally I believe that most people have “gender confusion” moments at one time or another. And those in charge see some of themselves in the CD’ers and TG persons and hate it so they try to make it a disorder.

A philosopher over 2000 years ago said that if children were allowed to grow up and form their own gender ID without outside interference that 50% of the population would be bisexual! (I believe it was Socrates who was gay). No doubt many have said this since then!




(P.S. people with obsessive compulsive mental disorders like Michael Jackson and that woman on the news that has had $150,000 of plastic surgery.

The ones that cause problems for SRS are those that have “surgery to the "extreme” like getting cat whiskers and teeth and having their skin made to look like a alligators, cow spot tattoos all over the body, etc.

These people need mental care and not surgery!)

[wishonastar]

What the @#$% is identity disorder? I didn't catch the whole thing, but that crap was just on the radio a little while ago. With all these new so called "disorders" popping up every day, I can't help but to feel that all these so called doctors and phycologist need medication for "disorder disorder".

see 3 faces of Eve the most famous multi personality disorder patient.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Three_Faces_of_Eve


These doctors have nothing better to do but to redefine. What else can they do. I am ADHD I have seen 3 doctors and all they do is to prescribe drugs. No therapy no ways to deal with it no working with my job or family to help me and them deal with it, nothing. $200 an hour and for me a $30 copay which I cannot afford. What a cushy job!



(I have always said you take the drugs from the psychiatrists and they can do nothing.)

So to keep busy and to justify their existence they keep redefining so called mental illnesses.

[Kimberley]

whoa. Wish on a Star I think you are being pretty harsh here. I suspect you have had less than successful encounters with the mental health community?

My pdoc will not prescribe meds for anything. Period. Neither will the other psychiatrists in the practice. They refer psych medication to a specialist who does nothing else. Then they have the GP do the monitoring for physical effects while they continue their Humanist Existentialist approach to treatment. They expect people to come off meds once they are stabilized except in cases such a BPD etc where the meds are essential for functioning.

My psychiatrist has been a lifesaver, does not particularly like to assign labels but in my case did for legal reasons (GID). Maybe mine is an exception, I dont know, but after 40 years of practice I think she has a pretty good idea of what she is doing.

:hugs:
Kimberley

[wishonastar]

whoa. Wish on a Star I think you are being pretty harsh here. I suspect you have had less than successful encounters with the mental health community?

My pdoc will not prescribe meds for anything. Period. Neither will the other psychiatrists in the practice. They refer psych medication to a specialist who does nothing else. Then they have the GP do the monitoring for physical effects while they continue their Humanist Existentialist approach to treatment. They expect people to come off meds once they are stabilized except in cases such a BPD etc where the meds are essential for functioning.

My psychiatrist has been a lifesaver, does not particularly like to assign labels but in my case did for legal reasons (GID). Maybe mine is an exception, I dont know, but after 40 years of practice I think she has a pretty good idea of what she is doing.

:hugs:
Kimberley

You are right. But I have no other gauge. 3 strikes. Not sure where to go. Maybe it is the HMO.

I do not want to discourage psychiatrists I have just had no "luck" with them for the ADHD.

[Kimberley]

HMO. Enough said, and you have my condolences. Fortunately our universal healthcare system in Canada allows us a lot more flexibility. To get a specialist you have to go through your GP and if the first one is a bad fit the GP will find another and another... As I said I have been very fortunate both with my GP and Pdoc. Both are experienced with GID and that makes life a lot easier for me.

Dont give up though. Sometimes it just takes time to find the right one. Oh, and the meds I take? It took almost 18 months to get the right ones and in the right dosages. It is not like getting an aspirin and the headache subsides. HRT may be next; we'll see.

:hugs::hugs:
Kimberley