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maid phylis
07-30-2008, 02:20 PM
my question for the veterans of this group.is.i have my first physical with my primary doctor at the va.to all my other doctors i have told them that i am a cd and i have worn my lingerie to their offices.for this first one with the va should i continue the same and just tell the doc that i wear lingerie and let him take it from there. love phylisanne:love:

WildLotus29
07-30-2008, 02:22 PM
Wear what you're comfortable wearing. A physician is a professional and should act accordingly. His/her only concern should be your health.

CD Susan
07-30-2008, 02:55 PM
Yes, wear whatever you are comfortable wearing. Doctors won't care about this they are only concerned about your health. I am a veteran and recieve va health care. I have never had to strip down to my undies but if I do they will see my panties and that does not bother me. I recently seen a va podiatrist and not one word was said about my red toenails!

Roberta Llyan
07-30-2008, 03:02 PM
This is a most valuable thread. I too am a vet and have as yet to show up in my femme. I've told the VA counselor I see and even show up there all the time en femme. But have not yet seen the doctor en femme. I told her the next time I went to see the doc I was going en femme. She merely said: "Be aware there may be reprecussions."

I asked her what kind and she said some of the other vets may give me trouble.

I ask her about the doc. Is it really a concern for him? She said she didn't know but that it ought not to be as his main concern is supposed to be treating my health. And not concerned about what I wear.

So although I am somewhat apprehensive at the moment, it is my intention to show up for my next doc appt, (in August) en femme as I go everywhere else that way now. So I will know then what will happen.

But thank you for this thread. I will be watching this one.

DonnaT
07-30-2008, 03:06 PM
Shouldn't be a problem, but not all doctors are the same. You could be lucky and yours won't give a hoot, or unlucky, and receive poor care.

maid phylis
07-30-2008, 04:26 PM
to all my sisters who are veterans thank you all very much .now i can see my doctor also in august feeling good about myself. :love:phylisanne and to all vietnam veterans WELL COME HOME :thanx:

bobbie_1048
07-30-2008, 04:36 PM
Wear what you're comfortable wearing. A physician is a professional and should act accordingly. His/her only concern should be your health.
Hiya Phylisann :) after several years I was starting to get comfortable with my provider at the VA to come out to her but then they moved her to another city and gave me a new one. It's back to ground zero for me. I hope you have better luck. Thanx for the welcome home. lotsa huggzzz to ya, bobbie

Butterfly Bill
07-30-2008, 06:56 PM
Two weeks ago I went in the the Jack C. Montgomery VA Medical Center here in Muskogee for my six month physical, and I was wearing a patio dress and going regimental (the hemline was mid calf). The Doc even checked my prostate with the glove on his hand and didn't say a word except to say that it was a little enlarged. Docs have seen it all, and their ethics codes forbid them from commenting on unusual things.

maid phylis
07-30-2008, 07:15 PM
Hiya Phylisann :) after several years I was starting to get comfortable with my provider at the VA to come out to her but then they moved her to another city and gave me a new one. It's back to ground zero for me. I hope you have better luck. Thanx for the welcome home. lotsa huggzzz to ya, bobbie
back at ya love phylisanne. ex us,navy:love:

Darlene Rochelle
07-30-2008, 07:30 PM
Here in Chattanooga,I would NEVER consider it,it is too damn conservative here for me,I would not feel comfortable at all.:2c:

Sally24
07-30-2008, 09:24 PM
There's a VA facility near Boston that has a specific policy for the transgendered. A friend of mine was the first and after her they got the policy initiated and then down in writing. I don't know if there are any other VA places with such a policy.

Roberta Llyan
07-30-2008, 09:28 PM
Shouldn't be a problem, but not all doctors are the same. You could be lucky and yours won't give a hoot, or unlucky, and receive poor care.

The care is ALREADY sloppy. He is one of those foreigners who failed medical school so he came to America and went to work for the VA. They will hire anything! Believe me, I speak from over 10 years of experience with them and I've yet to meet a real medical doctor who knows his/her shit from shinOla.

CD Susan
07-30-2008, 10:32 PM
Roberta, i am so sorry to hear of your negative experiences with VA care. I have experienced just the opposite here in Iowa. I am very well satisfied with the care I recieve. All of the doctors that I have dealt with have been very professional and have treated me with respect. The podiatrist I recently seen did not bat an eye at seeing my red toe nails. I was a bit apprehensive about this at first but decided to go for it in the end. I am glad I did as I just hate to hide my cd tendencies from any one. I wish you were recieving the same level of care that I am. I guess this varies from location to location. My experience with VA heath care has been a positive one so far and hope that this will be the same for you.

Jilmac
07-30-2008, 11:14 PM
Phyllis, The VA is just like any other medical facility. You can tell them you are a crossdresser if you wish, but they have probably seen plenty already so I doubt anybody will worry about what you're wearing for underwear.

If this will be your first visit, wear the prettiest frilliest lingerie you have :o

Diane Elizabeth
07-30-2008, 11:23 PM
As a veteran I thought I should stick in my 2 cents. I go to the one in Minneapolis. The care there is shakey. I seek help and all they want to do is send me for tests. and more tests. I had a pain in the arm and shoulder and after 6 trips for testing they said they couldn't find anything. My chiro, which the VA won't cover, Found it and help treat me. I don't have the severe pain anymore just an occassional pain mostly aggravated by the cold. The other thing is that I threw out a bread crumb at my shrink and he said he can't help me in that area. Recommended I go to the U of M for help in the cd/tg. Not sure what I will do yet. Anyway there is my experiences with the VA. So be careful that they don't try to pull the rug out from under you.

Rachel Morley
07-31-2008, 12:04 AM
I've never been to a VA facility to be checked out, but I have been to my own doctor's office for a check up that included an exam "down there" and guess what? I wore cream colored panties! ... I kid you not! ... and the Doc noticed, ... I could tell! :eek:

Nothing was said though. Don't worry, it'll be a cinch :)

erickka
07-31-2008, 06:41 AM
Hopefully, the health care providers are more concerned with YOUR HEALTH than being opinionated and of closed mind.

CowGurl Rachel
07-31-2008, 09:45 AM
I haven't been seen at the VA, but I was recently seen for an employment physical by an MD that is a Colonel in the MN ANG. I was wearing men's underwear, but he didn't say anything about my shaved legs/underarms or that my toes were painted. He did mention my military service and gave me a Huah! Hey, figure how many of us in the service are/were CD's. A LOT! As a paramedic, I treat everybody the same. Just be yourself.

Rachel

:hugs:

Melinda G
07-31-2008, 11:54 AM
I let my body and leg hair grow out for about a month before my visit to the VA, and wear mens underwear. While they are all professionals, I see no need to flaunt my CDing in their faces, or test their reactions to something that doesn't concern them. What you do, is up to you. A little common sense goes a long way.

CD Susan
07-31-2008, 12:26 PM
back at ya love phylisanne. ex us,navy:love:

ex US Navy here too, 1967 - 1971

Roberta Llyan
07-31-2008, 05:50 PM
Roberta, i am so sorry to hear of your negative experiences with VA care. I have experienced just the opposite here in Iowa. I am very well satisfied with the care I recieve. All of the doctors that I have dealt with have been very professional and have treated me with respect. The podiatrist I recently seen did not bat an eye at seeing my red toe nails. I was a bit apprehensive about this at first but decided to go for it in the end. I am glad I did as I just hate to hide my cd tendencies from any one. I wish you were recieving the same level of care that I am. I guess this varies from location to location. My experience with VA heath care has been a positive one so far and hope that this will be the same for you.

Thank you Susan. I also have to admit it could be partially my own fault. For as "a man" I have carried a grudge against the VA ever since I began dealing with them....a grudge which originated in boot camp all those years ago. But that is another story.

So being that my anger is lower as Roberta, in my daily life, I am curious as to how I will feel when I walk through the door? If the anger has subsided, maybe they will pick up on it and be kinder to me. So I know I need to work on me also. And let's face it, if the truth were known, I've not been the best of patients when I go to them. Mainly because I've not had a reason for I've found them, from the start, to be bad. But certainly changing my own thinking so to change my life will not do me any harm. And I do need to practice what I preach.

But I appreciate your kind words to me and thank you for your kind wishes.

Have a beautiful day. :hugs:

LindaC
07-31-2008, 09:22 PM
This is turning into a most interesting thread.

As a Vet, I say do what you are confortable with. As for myself, I have no desire to share my CDing with my provider.

I am sorry to hear about everyone's problem's with VA Health care. My experience has been nothing short of positive.

I go to the Jesse Brown Center in Chicago. This is a teaching facility for the University of Illinois.

I just got my hearing aids a few weeks ago. It took time(almost a year), but the results were worth it.

I've yet to come accross anyone there who doesn't give our needs first priority.

marie354
07-31-2008, 09:48 PM
I'm closing on a year of full time dressing, and believe me, the doctors are professional!
I've had the occasional question about the color of my toenails, or where I've had them done from the nurses. (Who actually ask more questions, and I think that's great!) But the doctors are more concerned about my health. Period.
My ex, Regina, (Who is still a good friend.), explained that they have seen it all, in the E.R. (Even some things you don't want to think about.)
I've recently moved and changed my doctors, (Only thirty miles away, but a different county.), and been shown respect from all of them.

Don't worry... You're health is the most important thing to both you and them!

Patty
07-31-2008, 09:52 PM
USAF 66-70 Have been going to the VA for about 10 yrs-(hearing aids, eye operations, and the list goes on, with my blood sugar trouble)never gone dressed but toes with paint, last 6 yrs panties only, never told them about being a cross dresser because it has nothing to do with my health concerns.
I have never had problems - but I know that there are times when it going to take some time to get an appt and then get fixed.

rachael j.
07-31-2008, 11:39 PM
My recent appointments with the VA have been very professional. Although I'm not "out", my normal daily appearance is androgenous. My hair is below shoulder length and I usually curl it (then comb out the curls to give my hair some wave and body). I usually wear colored stone studs and 'black hills gold' rings. Lately, I've begun to wear scented body talc and perfume that's not too 'over the top' or strong. I've worn acrylic nails for over 3 years and they are noticeable. My primary care physician has seen my toenail polish and although hasn't seen but I'm sure felt my bra straps when using his stethoscope. I've been wanting to speak to him for a referral to another local physican for hrt, but haven't found the right time/worked up the nerve yet. The last appointment to the the VA hospital for specific tests I was wearing a striped coral twinset shirt and tank with jeans and sling-back woven shoes. The appointment was in the urology dept. and the Dr. I saw was a woman. One of the test was to check my prostate and it was necessary to reveal my pink embroidered panties. She was very professional about it and there was no rude comments. In fact, I've never received any inapropriate comments at the VA. I have had positive compliments on my nails or polish though.

whitelace
08-01-2008, 12:22 AM
First off good luck with your upcoming VA appointment but as far as I'm concerned crossdressing for either gender is a non medical issue but that the more people you come out to the healthier the mindset is.

I am intimately aware of some of the care given in different parts of the country in the VA healthcare System some is very good while others are terrible. There have been a few tv specials that showed some of the aberrant corruption in the vast VA system I only
hope that in the past few years they have taken some of the necessary
steps to redress some of these situations .

I'm glad to say we have a great VA healthcare facilty in West Haven, Ct both my father and uncle were patients there for years and they always remarked that the care they received was top quality . We also have Yale and St. Raphael's hospitals in close proximity that all
share their excellent professionals. good luck:battingeyelashes:....lacie

Angie G
08-01-2008, 12:51 AM
Be yourself hun if you wish to wear you lingerie then go for it hun what can he say. :hugs:
Angie

Roberta Llyan
08-01-2008, 10:23 AM
Since you were not specific Lacie, I will take it that you were referring to me. So I say THANK YOU.

I've been 24/7 now since the first of the year with only about 3 times I have altered my course. One of which was my VA appt back in early March. But as the days pass, more and more, I am determined to be true to myself, as Shakespeare said. For it is when I am that I am most happy and have my inner peace. And that means more to me than anything else--including the VA. For it has been many years in finding it.

I would, at this point, encourage everyone to be "true to yourself" above all else. Even if it means being ridiculed by VA staff. After all, they are bound by legalities to treat us and our medical needs simply because we served our country and didn't run off to Canada or some other place. They OWE us that much! We EARNED it.

And what we wear is of no consequences...not to mention our own business.

malissa0311
08-01-2008, 12:13 PM
im a iraq vet april 01 to 05

i say go in what ever you fell most comfertable in for me i have not been able to come out yet to any of my docs but i do have to say they are very professional when i whent in for my very first visit and he was checking things out he noticed that i have a peircing and he was sort of shocked and he asked a couple of ? about it wich i did not mind but i do have to say the look on his face was priceless


semper fi to all vets

trannie T
08-01-2008, 03:52 PM
Is the VA like the regular army where you have to line up wearing only your underwear? If not then nobody is going to care.

Roberta Llyan
08-02-2008, 09:26 AM
No, Trannie. It's not like that.

Brooke Smith
08-02-2008, 09:48 AM
I have used the VA a couple times to get stitched up when I was between jobs with no health insurance. No CDing experiences to relate but it shouldn't matter to the Docs what you wear. As a general rule your best local Docs won't be found at the VA but I'm damn glad it's there when I/we need it.

Go Navy

Kimberly Marie
08-02-2008, 10:36 AM
Wow...lots of vet's.........well I have good insurance and have a regular doctor. So I don't use the VA much. but my regular doctor does not have a problem with it. And I will say because it cann't be said enough.....thank you for serving.............:)

Roberta Llyan
08-04-2008, 09:41 AM
Wow...lots of vet's.........well I have good insurance and have a regular doctor. So I don't use the VA much. but my regular doctor does not have a problem with it. And I will say because it cann't be said enough.....thank you for serving.............:)

Don't mention it. It was either that or go to Canada and I do not like cold weather.

*winks*

maid phylis
08-04-2008, 09:48 AM
wow ,,, all i can say to all of you is thank you for all the great replys and well come home to all of us:love:phylisanne

maid phylis
08-04-2008, 09:50 AM
ex US Navy here too, 1967 - 1971

i served from 1965 till aug 1967.uss yorktown cvs 10 ,,,vietnam:love:phylisanne

Lisa Renee
08-07-2008, 04:55 PM
I was in the Navy from 1970 thru 1974. I have never been to the VA hospital only in drab, but the care I recieved was as good as my regular doctor

kym
08-08-2008, 12:28 AM
There's a VA facility near Boston that has a specific policy for the transgendered. A friend of mine was the first and after her they got the policy initiated and then down in writing. I don't know if there are any other VA places with such a policy.
i believe its a system wide policy now, i go to the salisbury va and i was told by my rep to let him know if i had any trouble and he would get invovled quickly and snuff it out, my doc thinks its great that i'm a cd and actually flirts with me in front of his nurses to see their reaction. so it should be no big deal


ex-army cav scout here.

maid phylis
08-14-2008, 02:35 PM
well i found out that my primary doc is a female.makes life more interesting.:love:phylisanne

Amber-Sue
08-14-2008, 10:40 PM
Have not been to any doctors in the VA system but my wife was fjirst line support for the VA computer systems and she claims they are the best at what they do and they are the largest medical systems in the US.

ex-Navy Norfolk VA. 66 to 70 one trip to Vietnam thru Canal Fletcher class destroyer

Amber

maid phylis
08-15-2008, 08:15 AM
Have not been to any doctors in the VA system but my wife was fjirst line support for the VA computer systems and she claims they are the best at what they do and they are the largest medical systems in the US.

ex-Navy Norfolk VA. 66 to 70 one trip to Vietnam thru Canal Fletcher class destroyer

Amber
dear amber in 66 i was of the coast of vietnam in the tonkin gulf ,love phylisanne:love: