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docrobbysherry
08-08-2008, 05:02 PM
We've had any number of recent threads dancing around this subject.
I'm not talking about regular sex with partners. Or regular fantasy sex in the shower.

What I want to know is, how often does your dressing involve sex? As a direct result of your dressing?

I know many TS/TGs folks dress because of who they r. So, I guess this question is geared toward CDs. However, anyone may answer the poll.
Dressing and sex go hand in hand for me. But, I know that's not so for many. Let's see what u have to say.

Sandra Dunn
08-08-2008, 05:36 PM
My dressing is part of my personna and it is an expression of my inner self and spirit. I have learned over the years not to say never ever simply because just as I say that "BOOM" I'm eating my words. The sexaul part is like way down on the list and when I'm out and about I am not looking for sex; clothes shoes, make up and hardware is usaully what I'm looking for. If for some reason a guy comes up to me and really starts to lay it on , I'll let him know I'm married. By the way we recently renewed our vows and this time I was the bride and she was the groom.

KateSpade83
08-08-2008, 06:23 PM
My crossdressing is partly for shopping adventures, knowing how it feels to be sexy in various women's clothes, and for sexual fetish. And I'd try role reversal with a wife, might be hard to get one!

Dragster
08-08-2008, 06:40 PM
A large part of my motivation to dress is for sexual excitement. Since I've been monogamous for over 40 years, intend to stay that way, and my wife is not supportive of my CD activities, the resulting sexual activity is self inflicted.

Tony

CD Susan
08-08-2008, 07:43 PM
My dressing has nothing to do with sex! I dress to express the the feelings and emotions of my true inner self. My dressing does not cause any sexual arousal whatsoever. The two issues are not connected in any way. I become sexually aroused in the close company of a real woman and that is the only thing that causes this. My dressing is just a normal thing for me and feels so natural and is nothing for me to get aroused over.

Amy Hepker
08-08-2008, 07:47 PM
Years ago it was very important to me, but now I just want to be the Lady I am inside and the more I dress the less it has to do with sex, but it still does from time to time.

kym
08-08-2008, 07:59 PM
when i'm kym, i'm the person i want to be regardless of whether theres sex involved or not i dress for me and me alone, it does help that my gf is supportive as she can be.

bah-bah-bobbie
08-08-2008, 08:05 PM
I'm not quite sure how to decsribe it. I cannot even think about being dressed around someone else muchless for someone else. So sex involving dressing for me is out the window. I can't get in the mind set to put the moves on a woman when I'm dressed like one. Role reversal does not intrigue me. I wear the clothes because I like the way they feel. I do not have a fem side I'm trying to bring out, nor do I feel natural when I'm dressed. I just like the feel of the clothes, yet my fetish is a woman in a dress and heels. Maybe if I had a woman who did the D and H thing on a regular basis I might not dress as much myself. As for the sex part, it's been so long for me I think I forgot how and I'm pretty sure I re-qualify for virgin status.

Sherry-Stephanie
08-08-2008, 08:06 PM
Funny you should ask....

But I've found that dressing has reduced my sexual drive and or arousal....

What I've also found that dressing in fact that it has a soothing calming and almost traquil effect on me...serenity I think best describes the feeling when I'm either simply walking around in pair of heels and a thong or no thong or completely made up from head to toe....I feel the same...

But what is strange is very very infrequently does dressing lead me to increase arousal or getting turned on....and I find the serenity feel as strong as or great to the state of arousal....

Now I'll let you all kick that around....
I'm not even going to try and understand that!!!!

KereeAnn
08-08-2008, 08:08 PM
i dress because i like dressing it makes me feel good. i like to feel as fem as possible, sex doesn`t really come into it for me.

Samantha43
08-08-2008, 08:21 PM
Dressing was once a sexual turn on for me, but not really any more. I guess I have evolved past that. I still have a strong sex drive and a wonderful, accepting wife, but sex is never part of my dressing.

When I am in the mood for sex, I want to get all of the clothes, wig and makeup OFF so I can get down to serious business! :devil:

whitelace
08-08-2008, 08:43 PM
Hi Doc,
I would say that 90% of the time dressing and sex are of the same vehicle enjoyed in the same breath . I'm very happy with the fact that I date on a regularly basis on the ie weekends and as a rule I enjoy my share of sex. I've lived my life in this fashion for many years with a very driven purpose for my desires .

there are also times that I stay home by myself and pamper myself
with a nice hot bath , put just on a little light make-up and put my Jammie's on and perhaps watch a movie.... during these quiet times my sex drive is in neutral but it still feels great all over and oh so comfortable.

I am still quite driven but then again always in total control. interesting poll hugs....lacie:battingeyelashes:

RobertaFermina
08-08-2008, 08:49 PM
What is the difference between "I never have sex while dressed" and "my dressing has nothing to do with sex, period?".

Since every frequency of sex-while-dressed is covered, it seems to me that checking last category is saying something other than what is on its face.

:rose: Roberta :rose:

KayleeAllison
08-08-2008, 08:52 PM
I would say it's a big part of it for me, but it depends on how you define sex. I'm sexual every time I dress, but I don't get dressed, climax, and get undressed, lol. I might just get dressed and lounge around as Kaylee, listen to music, read a book, dance, maybe have a willing person snap some photos of me and join in the dancing, talk, cuddle (if I'm with someone else), etc. :) Let's put it this way, even if nothing except the fabric of my own clothes touches my naughty bits, the entire experience always feels extremely sensual and sexual, but on an emotional level rather than physical.

But then there's times when I dress and it's either an extremely hot night all by myself, or an even hotter night with someone I care about. :) When I'm dressed, almost the last thing on my mind is actual intercourse. I'm usually thinking that I'll spend an hour getting dressed, and about 3 or 4 more hours of touching, cuddling, kissing, and feeling someone I care about ..or myself :), but climax isn't the goal, more like a really nice perk, the real goal is the amazing time I get to spend as Kaylee with someone amazing (whether that amazing person is someone else or myself!)

Empress Lainie
08-08-2008, 08:52 PM
I am always naked when I have sex, so there.

I dress female because I am a woman in a formerly male body, and would feel like I was crossdressing pretending to be a man.

RobertaFermina
08-08-2008, 08:53 PM
As for me, I find having sex while dressed can be fun, while it is relatively infrequent. Sex undressed, and certainly without makeup is preferable.

Sensuality, leading only to the lightest forms of play while dressed is my preference over "Ha Ha! Ou La Oui!" sex while dressed.

:rose: Roberta :rose:

TGMarla
08-08-2008, 09:01 PM
"Hand in hand" Doc? Little pun there? :D

I guess other threads "danced around the subject", while in this one, the respondants dance around the subject. Point blank, dressing often sexually arouses me. It used to be more that way, but it still excites me, especially when I turn my thoughts directly to it, meaning sex. Nicely dressed women have always been a sexual turn-on for me, and it's no different when I'm that woman. I've never had sex with someone else while dressed, but I find that as a partner, I seldom fail to satisfy myself. I don't culminate my dressing episodes with sex nearly as much as I used to, but I still often wind them up that way. And I like it.

Heather_Marie
08-08-2008, 09:29 PM
"Hand in hand" Doc? Little pun there? :D

I guess other threads "danced around the subject", while in this one, the respondants dance around the subject. Point blank, dressing often sexually arouses me. It used to be more that way, but it still excites me, especially when I turn my thoughts directly to it, meaning sex. Nicely dressed women have always been a sexual turn-on for me, and it's no different when I'm that woman. I've never had sex with someone else while dressed, but I find that as a partner, I seldom fail to satisfy myself. I don't culminate my dressing episodes with sex nearly as much as I used to, but I still often wind them up that way. And I like it.

You stole the words right out of my mouth, I feel the same way you do TGMarla.

Stormgirl
08-08-2008, 10:16 PM
sex? now what's that again? :straightface:

docrobbysherry
08-09-2008, 12:48 AM
What is the difference between "I never have sex while dressed" and "my dressing has nothing to do with sex, period?".
Since every frequency of sex-while-dressed is covered, it seems to me that checking last category is saying something other than what is on its face.
:rose: Roberta :rose:

Actually, I checked "5 choices" on the poll, when I only needed "4 choices"! Rather than figure out how to re-do the poll, I cheated and added a 5th choice! Nonsensical as it is! I've tried to change these things in the past, and usually end up having to start all over again!


"Hand in hand" Doc? Little pun there? :D

I guess other threads "danced around the subject", while in this one, the respondants dance around the subject. Point blank, dressing often sexually arouses me. It used to be more that way, but it still excites me, especially when I turn my thoughts directly to it, meaning sex. Nicely dressed women have always been a sexual turn-on for me, and it's no different when I'm that woman. I've never had sex with someone else while dressed, but I find that as a partner, I seldom fail to satisfy myself. I don't culminate my dressing episodes with sex nearly as much as I used to, but I still often wind them up that way. And I like it.

Marla, what u said applies to my dressing precisely! And u explain it way better that I could! Thank u!
And I wondered who would get the "hand" comment! Oh, you're a sharpy!

Bethany_Anne_Fae
08-09-2008, 12:50 AM
I voted for the last one as dressing up does nothing for me sexually. Now, I like to be pretty, but thats as far as it goes.

Zara

Dragonfly
08-09-2008, 02:10 AM
Sex isnt part of my dressing, so far. Yes, I get thrilled to dress but its not a sexual thrill. I just want to expand my innate feminine side and look...well, if not cute then at least feminine.

jenalex
08-09-2008, 02:30 AM
There isn't really a choice in the poll that fits.
Yes, sex goes with dressing... because everything goes with dressing.
I'd tick this one if it was there:

I almost always dress when I have sex.

In fact, you could probably remove the "almost" :battingeyelashes:

Bev06 GG
08-09-2008, 02:55 AM
Mmm Good question Doc and very interesting results. Just goes to show that there are as many reasons for CDing as there are stars in the sky. Interestingly enough my partner said that for him in the beginning it was very sexual and the thrill he got was quite something else. However, that has all but disappeared as he has developed his CDing and we go out much more dressed. Not that I am suggesting for one minute that the mature you become as a Cd the less the sexual thrill is, but for some that may be true.
Take care
Bev

tvbeckytv
08-09-2008, 03:31 AM
for me, i only feel like a fully rounded person as a tranny. So whist sex isnt in itself the motivation, i certainly like and enjoy sex, and probably feel a more sexual person because of it.
But then, i want to read the morning paper as a tranny too

MsMichelle
08-09-2008, 05:01 AM
I was very pleased to see this point in the poll. As a Transgender advocate I have for years tried very hard of making an issue that "Sexual Orientation" and "Gender Orientation" should never even be used in the same sentence. It's just so unfortunate for our movement that "Transgender" and "Sex" have been molded together. Transsexual prostitution and the porn trade have done little to help the cause. Public perception is almost impossible to overcome.

tvbeckytv
08-09-2008, 05:11 AM
i dont think the poll is dirrected towards transsexual motives.

tanya3
08-09-2008, 05:18 AM
Dressing was once a sexual turn on for me, but not really any more. I guess I have evolved past that. I still have a strong sex drive and a wonderful, accepting wife, but sex is never part of my dressing.

When I am in the mood for sex, I want to get all of the clothes, wig and makeup OFF so I can get down to serious business! :devil:

I couldn't have said it any better:thumbsup:

wolff8u2
08-09-2008, 06:35 AM
Sex is sex. I dress enfem because I like to and when I have sex I am always undressed. I have never wore my jeans and tee shirt having sex and probably would never wear my girl clother having sex. That is just the way I am. The touch and feel of skin wins out here.

Nadia-Maria
08-09-2008, 08:47 AM
When much younger I used to dress mainly to have a big sexual turn on, then to enjoy sex.

Now, I feel more and more like a TGirl and I enjoy dressing just for enjoy dressing. So I don't dress for sexual reason ; however not rarely I end up dressed with being so much turned on that I can't avoid to enjoy sex dressed.


Nadia

laura.lapinski
08-09-2008, 08:49 AM
"Hand in hand" Doc? Little pun there? :D

I guess other threads "danced around the subject", while in this one, the respondants dance around the subject. Point blank, dressing often sexually arouses me. It used to be more that way, but it still excites me, especially when I turn my thoughts directly to it, meaning sex. Nicely dressed women have always been a sexual turn-on for me, and it's no different when I'm that woman. I've never had sex with someone else while dressed, but I find that as a partner, I seldom fail to satisfy myself. I don't culminate my dressing episodes with sex nearly as much as I used to, but I still often wind them up that way. And I like it.

I agree with Marla, except that it always excites me, and I always culminate it with sex! Ultimate fantasy.

KathrynTX
08-09-2008, 09:29 AM
Getting my girl on has always turned me on. Putting on pantyhose, short, skirts and dresses, high heels, and sexy lingiere gives me strong sexual feelings. Invariably, I have to sate those urges, and the rush of pleasure I get from being dressed is overwhelming and awesome.

I have never had sex while fully dressed, would like to try it someday, but I'm not going to overly push the idea. It's just not that important.

jennifer24
08-09-2008, 12:20 PM
"Hand in hand" Doc? Little pun there? :D

I guess other threads "danced around the subject", while in this one, the respondants dance around the subject. Point blank, dressing often sexually arouses me. It used to be more that way, but it still excites me, especially when I turn my thoughts directly to it, meaning sex. Nicely dressed women have always been a sexual turn-on for me, and it's no different when I'm that woman. I've never had sex with someone else while dressed, but I find that as a partner, I seldom fail to satisfy myself. I don't culminate my dressing episodes with sex nearly as much as I used to, but I still often wind them up that way. And I like it.

Feel just like you do, Yes, it`s a turn on to dress but, over the last 10 years it wasn`t just about sex, now I can dress up and not even think about sex. When I do go the sex route by myself I feel so sexy being a woman and have better orgasims.
:daydreaming:

vivianann
08-09-2008, 12:37 PM
I voted sex has nothing to do with crossdressing for me, I dress to complete my femme persona.

il.dso
08-09-2008, 01:42 PM
For me, crossdressing is a major sexual turn on.
It always has been and I think it always will be.

TSchapes
08-09-2008, 03:08 PM
Thanks doc, this one's been bugging me ever since I came across Tri-Ess and Virgina Prince's "we are not auto-erotic!" BS. I think at one time to "clean up" the notion of what a CD was, this notion was invented. They have thrown out with the baby and the bath water. Many fetishist have gotten a bad rap!

From now on I will refer to the auto-erotic as MB, I think you get what I am talking about here.

There's an old joke about statistics and sexuality:

"95% of all males MB, the rest lie about it"

First of all, to suppose that one is less than a feminine CD because they MB is nonsense. That's like saying a woman is less that a woman because she MB's. In fact it has gotten so bad, that if a CD does MB and now feels they need to transition to become whole, they are denied because of it. It has been only in the last few years that the term "autogynephilia" has been used to indicate a TS that MB's. An autogynephilia has been defined as a transsexual who transitions out of a deep sexual need to have a female body and are aroused by the female body-or, before transition, are aroused by the idea of having a female body. Really, do we have to go to all this trouble? If it's in your head that you are female, then what difference does it make that you MB? Everybody MB's! or lies about it!

This is something I've had to come clean with myself about. Yes, when I crossdress, I MB, there I said it! So freaking what? But, you have no idea what's actually happening within the gray matter of my brain. Nor, do I know what the heck is happening to a GG in her brain when she MB's. Your going to tell me she does not get aroused by leather and lace? I'm sure some do. I don't think they only have one thing in their brains while they are "doing it". I bet they have some creative stuff going on in their heads that has nothing to do with be savaged by males! I bet there are some GG's that look at themselves in the mirror and just get off. :thumbsup:

OK, I feel better now.

Everyone, just for once, be honest with yourself if no one else. I believe that one nasty side effect of being CD is we learn to lie and do it really well. It tends to infiltrate every aspect of our lives. Start with being honest with yourself, and maybe the rest will fall into place.

That's my story and I'm sticking to it!

Let the hand-grenades fly!

Love you all, really, Tracy

Addendum, and another thing, if someone cross-dresses 24/7 and MB's they are having sex while dressed, they wouldn't have a choice! Sorry, I just don't buy the "I never MB while dressed nonsense". It's OK, you won't have hair growing on the palms of your hands, at least I don't!

Edyta_C
08-09-2008, 06:02 PM
While CDing is sensual, I don't find it sexual. So OK Tracy I MB once in a while but I do it as often in drab. I CD because it does express the fem side of me. I feel more relaxed and calmer. My Wife notices how calm I have become since I came out to her (and CD more). I think thats one of the reasons she is supportative. I probably give her more attention of the kind she wants than before I came out to her.

So I don't think that for me there is any thing sexual about it. I just feel better. If I make love I get nekkid anyway.

Hugs and Grins Edyta

amber 07
08-10-2008, 07:49 AM
Thank you for the beautiful clarification Tracy. You put into words what I could only think about saying. Its refreshing to hear such honesty for a change. Hugs, Amber

Shelly67
08-10-2008, 08:42 AM
I think like most new cd,ers , the sex thing was most of the time a lonesome act . However, I now find myself ( having come out to my wife fully ) loving the time just sitting and relaxing - mind you the urge is still there , but almost in a controlled situation. I think its probably due to the fact having finally come to terms with being me . With no guilt . It only takes a glimpse of high heels tho , and I,m illuminated !! As for the MB - normally its fine - enfemme its atomic !!
On the flip side its been a strange journey , as now when I,m enfemme my wife can hardly keep her hands off me so perhaps in one way or another I,ve got to answear yes - sex is a very much a reflection and input ( no pun intended ) to my cding :o


Just a funny footnote ..... every weekend whilst I,m dressed , my lovely wife cooks up all sorts of concoctions , hoping I,m sure to watch me get in a right mess whilst trying to eat various wet , drippy or spiced foods . In fact I,m sure she gets off telling me off for leaving a mess on my clothes and sometimes even on the floor - lol .
Oh well , what ever floats your boat ..........:heehee:

MsJanessa
08-10-2008, 08:45 AM
culminates in sex, most often with someone else, but sometimes just Me

Holly
08-10-2008, 10:36 AM
...What I want to know is, how often does your dressing involve sex? As a direct result of your dressing?...Here's what I don't get... one of the most reoccurring complaints we see on this forum is that our SO's don't accept our CDing. And along comes a thread trumpeting the use of CDing as a means of physical self-fulfillment. Sex is an intimate part of most relationships and here we are glamorizing leaving the SO's out of the process. Is it any wonder so many GG's are put off with the concept of CDing? :sad:

docrobbysherry
08-10-2008, 11:45 AM
Here's what I don't get... one of the most reoccurring complaints we see on this forum is that our SO's don't accept our CDing. And along comes a thread trumpeting the use of CDing as a means of physical self-fulfillment. Sex is an intimate part of most relationships and here we are glamorizing leaving the SO's out of the process. Is it any wonder so many GG's are put off with the concept of CDing? :sad:

I don't think the SOs r left out as much as u say, at least, I hope not. But I DO know that there is nothing "glamorous" about my sex with Sherry. I think of it more as, enjoyable, but "perverted". And I don't believe GGs r any more put off by CDs, than GMs r!

What do u propose? Just sweep the CD sex issues under the rug? Pretend that all CDS just like playing dressup and that we all wish we were born GGs?

It appears over half of our poll CDs, in some way involve sex with their CDing. U know Holly, whether we like it or not, CDing IS WHAT IS!:doh:

TSchapes
08-10-2008, 12:07 PM
Here's what I don't get... one of the most reoccurring complaints we see on this forum is that our SO's don't accept our CDing. And along comes a thread trumpeting the use of CDing as a means of physical self-fulfillment. Sex is an intimate part of most relationships and here we are glamorizing leaving the SO's out of the process. Is it any wonder so many GG's are put off with the concept of CDing? :sad:

Holly, I understand your point. To me MB is what it is. I don't leave my SO out, my SO just doesn't like it when I'm dressed enfemme and that's OK by me. It is about communication and compromise. I never said MB was better than what it is with my SO.

As I battle between my male and female sides I have to make compromises to both sides, and to deny Tracy any pleasure at all is not going to work. My only alternative to Tracy MB would be for her to start dating, but being monogamous, that is totally out of the question.

My only complaint is I still see a holdover from when we had to "clean it up", for the public and our SO's. This is part of getting back to being real and being truthful. Truth is something I've struggled with all my life because of my shame in the past about CDing. Just as so many are quick to announce they are "straight" when in fact they may not have really examined themselves or that they are lying to themselves.

I'm not trying to be mean to the other girls here, just asking them to at least be truthful to themselves. CDing has been in the closet so long and it's going to take a while for it to be accepted by the general public, so I get why we say the things we do. We are looking for acceptance. And since MB has a "pervert" connotation, we sweep it under the rug, without really digging into why we now have to sneak around amongst ourselves about it. :2c:

So glamorous? I don't think so. Am I being pragmatic? You bet. Because in a perfect world, we wouldn't need this message board, and every woman would want to date and have their way with us CD's. Unfortunately that is not where the real world is right now, maybe sometime in the future...

Love as always, Tracy

PhillyGuy2Girl
08-10-2008, 01:18 PM
Sometimes when I'm dressed,my wife will make advances to me,which I love. We always undress when having sex,but sometimes I leave on the wig and necklace while having fun.

Felicity :)

Holly
08-10-2008, 01:31 PM
I don't think the SOs r left out as much as u say, at least, I hope not. But I DO know that there is nothing "glamorous" about my sex with Sherry. I think of it more as, enjoyable, but "perverted". And I don't believe GGs r any more put off by CDs, than GMs r!Doc, with all due respect, if we are engaging in self fulfilling activities,we ARE leaving our partners out of it. And when you yourself refer to your sexual activity with Sherry as "perverted" it does nothing but increase our SO's concerns. How many of us set out to be involved in a relationship with a "pervert?"
What do u propose? Just sweep the CD sex issues under the rug? Pretend that all CDS just like playing dressup and that we all wish we were born GGs?Not at all. But I would suggest that there is a time and place for such discussions. I'm not even asking you to change what you do, only to give some consideration to the feelings of others who may read what is written here.
It appears over half of our poll CDs, in some way involve sex with their CDing. U know Holly, whether we like it or not, CDing IS WHAT IS!:doh:I would not put much stock in the results of your poll (or any poll conducted on this forum). It is far from a scientific sampling. You are right, though, CDing is what it is. And it is different for all of us. Whereas we both may love and appreciate nature, you may enjoy the beauty of the sea while I may revel in the majesty of a sunrise. Neither one of us is wrong, but if I demeaned the ocean in your presence or others who shared your view, would it not be disrespectful?

As I battle between my male and female sides I have to make compromises to both sides, and to deny Tracy any pleasure at all is not going to work. My only alternative to Tracy MB would be for her to start dating, but being monogamous, that is totally out of the question.Just my opinion, Tracy, but if you are "pleasuring" Tracy, you are falling short of your self-proclaimed monogamy. And GG's will see this as using "another woman" to fulfill a roll you both committed to in marriage.
My only complaint is I still see a holdover from when we had to "clean it up", for the public and our SO's. This is part of getting back to being real and being truthful. Truth is something I've struggled with all my life because of my shame in the past about CDing. Just as so many are quick to announce they are "straight" when in fact they may not have really examined themselves or that they are lying to themselves. Truth is an admirable trait and goal. I applaud you in your quest for it. However would you agree with me that there is a difference between being truthful and being hurtful?
I'm not trying to be mean to the other girls here, just asking them to at least be truthful to themselves. CDing has been in the closet so long and it's going to take a while for it to be accepted by the general public, so I get why we say the things we do. We are looking for acceptance. And since MB has a "pervert" connotation, we sweep it under the rug, without really digging into why we now have to sneak around amongst ourselves about it. :2c:What we all must be careful of is projecting our own "truth" onto others. I would also offer the thought that if any of us are doing things that we would not do in front of our partners, perhaps we should not be doing them at all.
So glamorous? I don't think so. Am I being pragmatic? You bet. Because in a perfect world, we wouldn't need this message board, and every woman would want to date and have their way with us CD's. Unfortunately that is not where the real world is right now, maybe sometime in the future...

Love as always, TracyAnd in a perfect world, we also would have conducted ourselves in an honest and forthright fashion with our SO's. Is it coincidental, do you think, that most of the objections raised by GG's are not so much about the CDing and more about the lying and deceit and hiding? It is so much easier to change ourselves than it is to change others... food for thought.

With Respect,

Celeste
08-10-2008, 01:55 PM
O.K. I love sex all the time,but when I'm dressed it's really much better.If someone finds it a total turn on I can't see why they shouldn't enjoy it ,alone or together.

vivianann
08-10-2008, 02:01 PM
Holly thank you for your input on this subject, when I see this kind of talk about CDing and sex, I wonder how many GGs are put off by it. I agree with you 100% Holly. I am really discusted when I read a post where a married CDer wants to have sex with a man to make her feel like a complete woman.
like I have posted previously in this thread CDing does not arouse me at all.
Thanks again Holly

Karren H
08-10-2008, 02:10 PM
Whats' sex again?? I forgot...... :(

docrobbysherry
08-10-2008, 04:39 PM
I understand much better now, where u r coming from. I DO consider my activities as perverted. I wish I felt differently! But, I don't.
I don't have as SO. But if I did, I admit my CDing could be a big problem!
I would have to choose between hiding it from her, or trying to get her to accept it. Hopefully even participate in it with me. Those r the same choices most CDs WITH SOs have, rite?

For many CDs that have SOs, I don't think it's a choice between, "--hurtful and truthful", as u said. Often the truth can be VERY hurtful! But, as u conclude yourself; deceit, hiding, and lying, mite be more damaging to a partner than the CDing itself.

I also think your proposal that CDs deny that part of themselves for the benefit of their partner, is not realistic. I did something similar during my marriage, and ended up both angry and resentful toward my ex, because of it.
I don't think there r any easy answers for CDs with SOs. Each partnership must make their own way thru the desert! I don't believe hiding your CD sexual activities from your partner, is the rite answer either!


Doc, with all due respect, if we are engaging in self fulfilling activities,we ARE leaving our partners out of it. And when you yourself refer to your sexual activity with Sherry as "perverted" it does nothing but increase our SO's concerns. How many of us set out to be involved in a relationship with a "pervert?"


However would you agree with me that there is a difference between being truthful and being hurtful? What we all must be careful of is projecting our own "truth" onto others. I would also offer the thought that if any of us are doing things that we would not do in front of our partners, perhaps we should not be doing them at all.And in a perfect world, we also would have conducted ourselves in an honest and forthright fashion with our SO's.


Is it coincidental, do you think, that most of the objections raised by GG's are not so much about the CDing and more about the lying and deceit and hiding? It is so much easier to change ourselves than it is to change others... food for thought.

With Respect,

redraider
08-10-2008, 04:55 PM
I have always got excited whenever I dressed up. As a child my mother would dress me up as a girl for fun, little did I know I would love it.

Dragster
08-10-2008, 06:41 PM
Holly, when I dress in any female clothing, I feel sexually excited, and it's been that way for well over 50 years, and yes I satisfy my own needs through MB at those times. I'd love to share this sexual activity with my wife (my ultimate fantasy is to make love with my wife with both of us dressed in sexy clothing), but while she is anti-CD, I don't have that option. I'm not glamourising leaving her out of the sexual process, for me MB is a second best, but one I'm prepared to accept while utopia is not available.

Tony

Tip or Ozma
08-10-2008, 08:59 PM
Here's what I don't get... one of the most reoccurring complaints we see on this forum is that our SO's don't accept our CDing. And along comes a thread trumpeting the use of CDing as a means of physical self-fulfillment. Sex is an intimate part of most relationships and here we are glamorizing leaving the SO's out of the process. Is it any wonder so many GG's are put off with the concept of CDing? :sad:

Holly,

My wife and I have a fulfilling, passionate and exciting sex life. A part of that is the freedom to experience the pleasurable aspect of exploring our own bodies in a solitary fashion. I do not feel short-changed when my partner takes this time for herself, nor to I feel guilty when I do the same. My wife is not turned off when we share intimate moments and I happen to be wearing feminine clothing. I think the "put-off" for some people is more complicated than just sex.

As I have be able to explore the female me, I have also found that it is not all about sex, and it has brought us greater intimacy overall.

cd_britney_426
08-11-2008, 01:46 AM
I'm split between the two. I have sex with men more than I do with women and this is my primary attraction. In terms of how I appear, it really doesn't matter to me when it comes to sex but if I am dressed up, it makes it much more interesting. If I go to a gay bar dressed as a guy, it will be the men who are interested in men wanting to go out with me. If I am dressed as Britney, it will be the tranny-chasers. Sex is not my reason for crossdressing, but if it happens while I am CDed, it is a lot more interesting. Not to state the obvious, but regardless of whether I am in boy or girl mode, the clothes do have to come "off." :) Britney

PaulaPts
08-13-2008, 08:53 AM
For me being enfemme and sex are separate. en femme is my persona. If I meet the right guy and the situation is right why not. I'm not a prude.

NicoleScott
08-13-2008, 08:52 PM
For me, dressing and making up is a huge erotic, arousing experience. And it's fun. I love being dressed but really love the process of making up and dressing up. When I complete the session, after taking photos, going out or staying in, I always end by pleasuring myself.

Nicki B
08-13-2008, 10:52 PM
What is the difference between "I never have sex while dressed" and "my dressing has nothing to do with sex, period?".

Since every frequency of sex-while-dressed is covered, it seems to me that checking last category is saying something other than what is on its face.

Well, a sizeable number of us have chosen the last option...

To me, the difference was one implies the two are connected - the latter implies that they aren't? :strugglin


Although perhaps, for some of those who profess not to know what sex is anymore, the reason may be that being asked to perform the 'male' role has actually become a turn off, because that's no longer how they think of themselves?

josie_S
08-14-2008, 12:28 AM
For me, dressing and making up is a huge erotic, arousing experience. And it's fun. I love being dressed but really love the process of making up and dressing up. When I complete the session, after taking photos, going out or staying in, I always end by pleasuring myself.

im the same way. i enjoy the whole process of picking out an outfit, shaving, showering, changing my outfit a million times from the one i picked out :heehee: putting on make up, going out or (usually) staying in; i almost always end up pleasuring myself. the whole thing is a turn on! to me, that doesn't take away from my expressing my femininity, but rather its an aspect of myself that i enjoy and feel good about. i dont know about perversion or selfishness though i am not in a committed relationship and i can (and have) see changing my behavior and attitudes towards it should i be in one, but right now im feeling the need to explore my likes (and dislikes) because i have denied myself the opportunity to do so for so long. being femme allows me to feel alluring and sexy in a different way than in boy mode and in both i have a healthy libido. but i am learning, since joining this site, about some things i can anticipate, and as i mentioned above, i will have to make decisions around that when/if that time comes. for now though, i will enjoy the process of getting pretty on every level possible, including sexually. :daydreaming:

Echo Logical
08-14-2008, 12:52 AM
Like many, at first I found dressing to be very erotic, and was almost always aroused. After a little over a year of being able to more fully explore CD'ing, and two outings, I find that I just enjoy dressing enfemme, and am not aroused nearly as often. I MB far more either nekkid or in drab, afterall I wouldn't want to stain a dressor something. :battingeyelashes:

I would love to make love to my wife while dressed, but I don't think that is in the cards.

Genifer Teal
08-14-2008, 04:58 AM
Completely unrelated

toolfan_1980
08-14-2008, 05:58 AM
The only time I get aroused when I dress, is when I dress in a sexy outfit. That is because I feel sexy and hope that some one I will like would agree with me.
Do GGs not get aroused when they put on a sexy outfit and imagine some one getting aroused by them?
But normally I don't get arousal from dressing. I do it to feel comfortable with my self.

Charlena
08-14-2008, 07:31 AM
I used to get really aroused years ago and since I was hiding the fact and alone I would have to take care of myself. But since coming out to my supportive wife just lately and us planning our anniversary for this weekend, Sex is not at the top of my list. Saturday is the big day were both going to dress fully at the motel and my hope is to sit and touching, have some wine and cheese look at a Cosmo together, maybe watch a movie I want to have a girlfriend to talk to and hope to be a girlfriend to her. I plan on being demure and following her lead. I have been getting little hints ( or wishful thinking)she would like to make love to a woman. It would be so nice if she chooses me. So I dont dont whether dressed or not but would like to be submissive. She whispered to me at the grocery that she is going to kiss all my lipstick off. I think I would like to have sex while dressed in Bra, crotchless pantyhose though.

Butterfly Bill
08-14-2008, 09:27 AM
Does "sex" include taking matters into your own hands? If it is that, hardly ever, tho thirty years ago it was almost always. Or does it mean doing it with a woman? Every time I've done that both of us have been nude.

cdkelsi
08-14-2008, 10:02 AM
I think it has a little to do with it. I find it now just who I am when I am fortunate to dress and be the girl that I am inside. I do find that I do alot more of fantasy now though when dressed if that is the same thing fine. But deep down I just want to be a girl and be able to act, feel, look well you know eveything.:2c: