Dragster
05-25-2005, 07:32 PM
There was a thread here a couple of days ago which I can't find now. I know Tristen closed it (rightly) because it got off subject and completely out of hand, but I wish to add my two pence (or cents) to the original debate without re-opening the slanging match.
I've read somewhere that for some of us, but not all, one of the original motivations to dress comes from a desire, maybe subliminal, to create the "unattainable" perfect female creature of our dreams. At an early period in our lives where we may desire the intimate company of a beautiful girl, but believe we do not have the confidence, maturity or whatever else is required to attract one, we create in ourselves, an image of the object of that desire by dressing in the female clothes she might wear. At that age, just a bra, panties, slip or hose of any kind is enough, and we find we are excited, as we would be if we had a girl, and we could see that that was what she was wearing. As we get older, we zero in on specific items which we may have found the most exciting, stockings, suspenders, corsets, satin for me, and in black because it seems so naughty (naughty = exciting?)! We may be influenced by what we see in "men's" magazines; it is a common theme with many variations, but any old female clothes would no longer do it for me. Ultimately we strive for the perfection achieved by the full look, including wig, make-up, nail polish, shoes etc.
I would maybe need psychiatric analysis to show that this was what I was going through my mind in my pre and early teens, but I do remember the first feelings of "wow, I'd like that for my girlfriend" at that age, but was far too shy to even talk to a girl my age, let alone ask her for a date. I started wearing female clothes at about 10, I was 17 before I had my first real date, and 19 before I had my first steady girlfriend, and I never saw her in her underwear! I also remember being concious of what girls wore from an early age, and was definately attracted to those wearing dark stockings, stiletto heels, short and tight dresses in silky fabrics, long hair, bright red lipstick and nails, and make-up. This was probably the "****ty" look for that era (this was the 1950/60s), but it sure turned me on, and even though I may have ultimately chosen girlfriends who were more conservative and "classy" in their appearance, I knew what I liked to look at, and what excited me. I believe I'm not alone in this respect, after all, it's no surprise that prostitutes wear the clothes that are supposed to turn on the average male when they want to attract customers.
For our wives and girlfriends, we may not choose those who dress in public this way, because we have, and we wish others to think we have, better taste; we don't want to suggest we have dated and married an immoral woman. But when we're in the mood, how many of us want our women to wear the alluring lingerie to bed? Most of us I guess, me included, but we may not always feel we can ask for this without upsetting our SO, or may have found she was unwilling to indulge our desires. Because we have already found that wearing these clothes ourselves is a turn-on for us, do we continue to wear them, often in secret, to reproduce that initial excitement we felt from creating our "ideal" woman, and also as a substitute for what we would really like our SO to do?
Can this explain why many of us (those who are excited by dressing at least) like to dress "****ty" in private, when we have only ourselves to please, but go for the more sophisticated "normal" look when we go out in public, so we don't attract too much of the wrong attention. Maybe the pure excitement (or fear!) of being out, dressed, is enough on its own, it certainly would be for me! Presumably the act of dressing "****ty" and posting pictures here gives us an opportunity of demonstrating our sexiness in a safe environment where we are anonymous and will not be "found out", and that gives us an additional buzz.
I'm sorry I've rambled a bit (all right, a lot), but I wonder if any of you can see this as an explanation of the behaviour of many of us, or is there an alternative theory? Let the debate begin.
Tony
I've read somewhere that for some of us, but not all, one of the original motivations to dress comes from a desire, maybe subliminal, to create the "unattainable" perfect female creature of our dreams. At an early period in our lives where we may desire the intimate company of a beautiful girl, but believe we do not have the confidence, maturity or whatever else is required to attract one, we create in ourselves, an image of the object of that desire by dressing in the female clothes she might wear. At that age, just a bra, panties, slip or hose of any kind is enough, and we find we are excited, as we would be if we had a girl, and we could see that that was what she was wearing. As we get older, we zero in on specific items which we may have found the most exciting, stockings, suspenders, corsets, satin for me, and in black because it seems so naughty (naughty = exciting?)! We may be influenced by what we see in "men's" magazines; it is a common theme with many variations, but any old female clothes would no longer do it for me. Ultimately we strive for the perfection achieved by the full look, including wig, make-up, nail polish, shoes etc.
I would maybe need psychiatric analysis to show that this was what I was going through my mind in my pre and early teens, but I do remember the first feelings of "wow, I'd like that for my girlfriend" at that age, but was far too shy to even talk to a girl my age, let alone ask her for a date. I started wearing female clothes at about 10, I was 17 before I had my first real date, and 19 before I had my first steady girlfriend, and I never saw her in her underwear! I also remember being concious of what girls wore from an early age, and was definately attracted to those wearing dark stockings, stiletto heels, short and tight dresses in silky fabrics, long hair, bright red lipstick and nails, and make-up. This was probably the "****ty" look for that era (this was the 1950/60s), but it sure turned me on, and even though I may have ultimately chosen girlfriends who were more conservative and "classy" in their appearance, I knew what I liked to look at, and what excited me. I believe I'm not alone in this respect, after all, it's no surprise that prostitutes wear the clothes that are supposed to turn on the average male when they want to attract customers.
For our wives and girlfriends, we may not choose those who dress in public this way, because we have, and we wish others to think we have, better taste; we don't want to suggest we have dated and married an immoral woman. But when we're in the mood, how many of us want our women to wear the alluring lingerie to bed? Most of us I guess, me included, but we may not always feel we can ask for this without upsetting our SO, or may have found she was unwilling to indulge our desires. Because we have already found that wearing these clothes ourselves is a turn-on for us, do we continue to wear them, often in secret, to reproduce that initial excitement we felt from creating our "ideal" woman, and also as a substitute for what we would really like our SO to do?
Can this explain why many of us (those who are excited by dressing at least) like to dress "****ty" in private, when we have only ourselves to please, but go for the more sophisticated "normal" look when we go out in public, so we don't attract too much of the wrong attention. Maybe the pure excitement (or fear!) of being out, dressed, is enough on its own, it certainly would be for me! Presumably the act of dressing "****ty" and posting pictures here gives us an opportunity of demonstrating our sexiness in a safe environment where we are anonymous and will not be "found out", and that gives us an additional buzz.
I'm sorry I've rambled a bit (all right, a lot), but I wonder if any of you can see this as an explanation of the behaviour of many of us, or is there an alternative theory? Let the debate begin.
Tony