Are we really just male lesbians?

[amy canada]

I think most of us on here are straight and we love the way women look, so much so, that we want to dress up in women's clothing. So are we actually just male lesbians? I often think of myself as such, and I often wonder what it would be like with a vagina.

[CindyT]

Me too!

[Zenith]

I considered the surgery but have never found any truly appealing pictures.

:confused:

:raisedeyebrow:

[Zenith]

no longer being a cross dresser but a transgender.
so i really would be by legal standards a female.

Sorry, I'm not sure just what you are saying...

:strugglin

[Zenith]

I understand SRS, but it's your first comment that threw me for a loop...

[Vickii*]

Well, I'm pretty comfortable with my male body and I like my penis. I don't imagine myself with a vagina. I like girls too. So no...i'm not a lesbian trapped in a man's body, i'm just a straight boy who likes to dress up in girl's clothes.

[Satrana]

I am not a male lesbian. I am a tomgirl and proud of it!

[Jess_cd32]

I considered the surgery but have never found any truly appealing pictures.

Maybe they've gotten better at it by now I don't know, but it wasn't appealing from what I saw years ago either looking at them on the net for curiousity. Might just all depend on the docs experteze.

[Carin]

No, I'm just your regular garden variety feminine male.

[insearchofme]

All I know is that I love women!!!!!

[GypsyKaren]

Oh just every picture that i have seen of a srs is not in my eyes appealing in sight.


Maybe they've gotten better at it by now I don't know, but it wasn't appealing from what I saw years ago either looking at them on the net for curiousity. Might just all depend on the docs experteze.

I can tell you that my vagina looks like any other woman's, even a doctor would be hard pressed to tell the difference without a thorough examination.

Karen Starlene :star:

[suzypier]

Right on, I asked myself the same question many time. Very happy to see that I am not alone thinking that way. :)

[Bethany38]

:2c:When I first started to dress I used to tell my wife that I thought I might be a lesbian trapped in a mans body? However, now I don't know about this description. Though I am only attracted to women, I still love dressing as one. For me this presents qiute an conondrum. I am strongly pulled toward dressing in womens clothes `cause of the way they make me feel. Ya know all soft and frilly. Also when i am dressed my personality becomes somewhat softer. Now when I am not dressed I seem to revert back to strictly male mode were I am doing my typically male job and ready for anything male that may come along. As long as it is not sports I hate sports. Unless it is car racing or something along these lines. Hockey I love, for some reason. Now to add to my confusion on this matter I may, or may not under-dress while in male mode. excuse my bluntness on this next matter, but my wife and I love getting our freak on while I am enfemm. So I don't know if this makes us lesbian, but I do know that this makes us very happy. now to finish this rather unlikely long rant. I feel the best description I have heard on here is tomgirl. Yes I am just a tomgirl. Thank you for that one Satrana.

[Sara Jessica]

I think most of us on here are straight and we love the way women look, so much so, that we want to dress up in women's clothing. So are we actually just male lesbians? I often think of myself as such, and I often wonder what it would be like with a vagina.

The last time I checked, isn't sexual preference entirely separate from gender identity???

[markie v]

I think of myself as a Lesbian trapped in a Males Body, I much rather be a Woman.

[Samantha Kelsey]

I always tell people that Im a lesbian. Iknow that I can only make it with females. Sorry guys, nothing against you.

[VeronicaMoonlit]

The last time I checked, isn't sexual preference entirely separate from gender identity???

Yes, that's right. Also there's a lot of history behind the word "lesbian" and I think male-bodied people who are not transitioning should be very cautious in how they use it. Personally, I wouldn't use it these days, because I still have "it", even if I want to get rid of "it" Yes, technically I'm a "proto-future lesbian", but I'm not an actual lesbian now.

Veronica
Rondelle (Ron) Rogers Jr.

[PhillyGuy2Girl]

Thats the running joke between my wife and myself. She said that I'm a lesbian trapped in a man's body. who knows? It might be true,but I know one thing,I do find myself very attracted to women. No offense to anyone, but the thought of myself being with another man does not appeal to me at all. 100% straight

Felicity :)

[Morford]

"‘Cause if you're a transvestite, you're actually a male tomboy, that's where the sexuality is. Yeah, it's not drag queen, no; gay men have got that covered. This is male tomboy, and people do get that mixed up, they put transvestite there - no no no no! Little bit of a crowbar separation, thank you! And gay men, I think, would agree. It's male lesbian, that's really where it is, ok? Because… it's true! ‘Cause most transvestites fancy girls, fancy women. So that's where it is. So it’s “running, jumping, climbing trees, putting on makeup when you're up there.” That's where it is!"
—Eddie Izzard, Dress to Kill

:p

[Nataliecan]

I think of me the same...a lesbian in a male body

[_Cecilie_]

I'll join the lesbian in male body group. But I'm not sure if I'd feel completely the same if I experienced 100% of being female. There are a few, should I say downsides?, that we, or maybe just I, tend to forget while dreaming of being female. I think some GGs might get a little insulted when sometimes we might simplify and/or only look at the positives of being female.

just my 2 cents on the matter :)

[Deborah Jane]

No!!!
I,m a female lesbian, but i,ve got the wrong equipment options fitted :sad:

[Ellen Ross]

"‘Cause if you're a transvestite, you're actually a male tomboy, that's where the sexuality is. Yeah, it's not drag queen, no; gay men have got that covered. This is male tomboy, and people do get that mixed up, they put transvestite there - no no no no! Little bit of a crowbar separation, thank you! And gay men, I think, would agree. It's male lesbian, that's really where it is, ok? Because… it's true! ‘Cause most transvestites fancy girls, fancy women. So that's where it is. So it’s “running, jumping, climbing trees, putting on makeup when you're up there.” That's where it is!"
—Eddie Izzard, Dress to Kill

:p

For me Eddie Izzard's "Dress to Kill" was a key transition point in my understanding, and acting on, my crossdressing feelings. I would recommend seeing the entire show!

[RobinScott]

I am bi-sexual, but often wonder if that is my inner woman trying to go with what society says. I identify more with my female side to the point that I consider my self a Woman trapped in a mans body. But, I am more attracted to, and all things considered would choose to be with a woman. Not wanting to take away from the day to day struggle that true GG lesbians face, I think the term male lesbian is a good one. It reflects my true inner self.

Robin

[gingerstevens]

If "labels" have any value in defining one's sexuality, i would have to describe myself as a bisexual. i have enjoyed sexual relations with both sexes as a man and a woman. Today i believe that i am a transgendered person lying somewhere in the middle of the male-to-female continuum.

However, the term male lesbian probably is an accurate description of my sexual preference. i love to be with women and girls like us. i have a strong preference for females as sexual partners. I would rather spend time as Ginger with females than have a date with a man. In many ways, i seek the approval of men, as a reinforcement of my self image as a female, and not for the sake of being desired by men.

In my humble opinion, "labels" are to limiting when used to describe human sexuality. So i try to avoid applying them to myself. i spent so much emotional energy trying to be "straight" (whatever that means!) as a young man that i denied who i was. So now, i just try to be myself - whatever that is at the time - and have fun! Stay pretty!!!

[Jennifer Brooks]

Besides my current relationship problem, I am always looking at women and sometimes wonder how they would feel in they knew I was a CD. Weird I guess but I am woman crazy.

[vivianann]

I am only attracted to GG's, and I like to dress as a woman, I do not want to change sex either, I am happy with my male plumbing. So does that make my femme persoana lesbian? maybe. Good question Amy

[MJ]

I,m a female lesbian, still working on getting the right equipment

[Valeria]

Also there's a lot of history behind the word "lesbian" and I think male-bodied people who are not transitioning should be very cautious in how they use it. Personally, I wouldn't use it these days, because I still have "it", even if I want to get rid of "it" Yes, technically I'm a "proto-future lesbian", but I'm not an actual lesbian now.
I have to admit that it bothers me when male-identified people appropriate the word lesbian. However, you certainly don't need to be post-op to be lesbian. If you identify as a woman and you want to transition, then if you are primarily attracted to women I think it's quite reasonable for you to call yourself a lesbian.

It's admittedly trickier when you are totally pre-transition. It's possible for someone who identifies as a woman to be a lesbian at heart, but if you are still presenting as a guy and dating straight women, then you aren't really living a lesbian lifestyle. As you say, there's a lot of history behind the word "lesbian", and it has a lot of cultural implications. But once you are living full time as a woman, or at least presenting socially as a woman, you can totally be a lesbian regardless of the current shape of your genitals.

[mykhelee]

Have had several "WOMEN' who I have dressed for and then:o. Never occurred to me to do the down low when I'm dolled up.:D

[Marjory]

Maybe!! The thought of sex with a man is a real turn off for me.

Marjory

[Inachis]

I love women, and I always have. I think that the feminine form is of the most enchanting things on the earth. I don't think of myself as a female in a males body. I am a male who wears women's clothing.

[LA CINDY LOVE]

I do love women and just love it when I get hit on by women or they have something good to say about how I look or what I have on, but I do not feel that I am a lesbian just because I love to dress up as a woman and is attractive to woman.

I am attractive to woman because I am a man, I love to dress up as a woman because of all the deference type of cloths and shoes they have to wear.......they just have more toys to play with then a man dose......and I LOVE TOYS.


LA CINDY LOVE

[docrobbysherry]

No matter how fem u look and feel, if u have male equipment,
YOU CAN'T FAKE AN ORGASM!

Where as, ANYONE with female equipment CAN!:eek:

[amy canada]

Yes, there are things us males can't do when we're with women because our parts are different, so technically, we're not lesbians in that regard, but considering that we like to dress up as a woman and want to be with other women, we could consider ourselves to be lesbians at heart, or in other words, male lesbians.

If there was a way that we could be real women for a day or a week or a month (or longer), wouldn't you have lesbian sex with women? I think you would.

[loveslingerie in oc]

I do love women and just love it when I get hit on by women or they have something good to say about how I look or what I have on, but I do not feel that I am a lesbian just because I love to dress up as a woman and is attractive to woman.

I am attractive to woman because I am a man, I love to dress up as a woman because of all the deference type of cloths and shoes they have to wear.......they just have more toys to play with then a man dose......and I LOVE TOYS.


LA CINDY LOVE
Well said Cindy...... it's all about the clothes Frances

[Crystal Galadriel]

I've asked myself this same question before, as women are very attractive to me and men are a total turn off. I do wonder a lot what it would be like to have a vagina. I've thought about transitioning a little bit, but every time I do I think that it's not for me. I love the female form, greatest form in the world, and I love trying to emulate it, but I don't think living female full time is for me. I'm happy with being male, I think it makes intimate relationships with GG's easier. If I could be a GG for some amount of time (preferably 1 month+ so I could experience everything), I think I'd definitely have lesbian sex... I'd probably think about sex with a man too, just to know what it's like, but I don't know if I could do it, since I really don't find the male form attractive in that way at all.

So, short version... I like the tomboy description, but I also think that male lesbian isn't a bad way to describe it, as I am male but if I was the female I try to emulate, I'd be a lesbian.

Good to know that there are others out there who think this way.

[Deborah Jane]

No matter how fem u look and feel, if u have male equipment,
YOU CAN'T FAKE AN ORGASM!


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[Niya W]

No matter how fem u look and feel, if u have male equipment,
YOU CAN'T FAKE AN ORGASM!

Where as, ANYONE with female equipment CAN!:eek:

I have actually had to fake one. I had the displeasure of fighting out what happens when she has one and I dont/

[PrettyFlowingGown]

This is a hard one. I'm happy having a penis, so I have no desire ever to be a real woman. I love my womens clothes though so much, that I wear them 90 percent of the day. To me, in my beleif, I try to be the woman I want to be with........and as much as I love women, I like some guys too, so I'm kind of bi.

[rustynail]

I've asked myself this same question before, as women are very attractive to me and men are a total turn off. .....I really don't find the male form attractive in that way at all.

So, short version... I like the tomboy description, but I also think that male lesbian isn't a bad way to describe it, as I am male but if I was the female I try to emulate, I'd be a lesbian.

Good to know that there are others out there who think this way.

Me too. The guy fixing my car in the garage had a T-shirt saying, "Treat me nicely, I'm a lesbian". His mates did not understand it! Obvious, he likes women!

[Angie G]

WellI'm very much a Male Lesbian hun.I love my wife and all her parts.:hugs:
Angie