who do some of us want to be woman?

[Sasha Anne Meadows]

Many of the t girls I chat with want to be woman (I do). At least to live mostly as women. Yet we know that woman have a much more difficult time in life for many issues such as rearing children and securing a fair paying job. Given those challanges who do some of us still wish we were woman. What do you think girls?

[Karren H]

I don't call my crossdressing the best of both genders for nothing.... All the advantages of being male and none of the disadvantages of living female!! imho...

[suzypier]

I don't call my crossdressing the best of both genders for nothing.... All the advantages of being male and none of the disadvantages of living female!! imho...

I agree with you 100% :)

[Nadia-Maria]

Yet we know that woman have a much more difficult time in life for many issues such as rearing children and securing a fair paying job. Given those challanges who do some of us still wish we were woman. What do you think girls?

I wished I was born a girl. Now, being a third time TGirl is enough for being a very happy T Girl.

If I were born a girl, I would probably not have had children. And I can't see why I would have accepted a badly paying job. Remember that, when I initiated my job career, there were not yet economic difficulties and it was easy to find a good job.

Moreover as a woman I would probably have been clever enough to date a generous man .... like myself to avoid any money problem.:tongueout

Kisses

Nadia

[Alice B]

When I'm dressed as Alice, I'm a woman. The rest of the time I'm not.

[Schatten Lupus]

This is my biggest point of countering the "lifestyle choice" some people think being trans is. In all reality, what male, in his right, sober, well advised state of mind would willingly want to be a woman? Pay cuts, harder to find jobs, getting hassled by alot of people, being treated like a piece of meat, and the glass ceiling.
But, at least I could be who I am. And as long as I am my own self, I could care less what others think.

[Phyliss]

..... who do some of us still wish we were woman. What do you think girls?


I do wish I was, however, don't ask me why, I'm still trying to figure that out.,
I know all the reasons why NOT, but that doesn't stop me from wishing. Will it ever happen? .... Not in this life, and I know that.

So, the wish is there, but I'm not gonna "stress" over the fact that it's only a wish and not a reality.

[Miss Tessa]

Where do you get off thinking guys have it easier?!?!?

Women got it waaaaay easier.



You realize how easy it is for me to manipulate men now that I'm a woman?

I can easily con a boy into giving me money by just talking and acting cute.

And being a girl you get most things for free when a man's around and you don't necessarily have to give them what they want in return!

WTF was you thinking gurl?

[Billie Jean]

I agree with you 100% :)Ditto to that. I love my girl side but also really enjoy being a guy. I can be whichever I want. Billie Jean

[Scotty]

I'm thinking that if I were 24/7 and someone treated me like they do to GG's (Which is completely WRONG IMHO) then I'd know how to recognize that, not tolerate it...

And of course like she said, it would be easy to manipulate a guy - a GG friend taught me how she does it...and she does it well if she has to but not unless....:)

[wishonastar]

I wish I was a woman but do not like men and would not want to be a lesbian.

Guess that is why they call it gender confusion.

At my age it is too late for those changes but if I could be 20, I would be a woman, no doubt an Japanese woman and apply to be a Geisha. I love music, dance art and to entertain and help people so it would be me.

[charlie]

I love my job, business and taking charge. If I were a woman 24/7 and ran my business I would just be known as a c**t. There is no joy in that. Better to split the two.

[Kate Simmons]

Nope, think I'll pass on that much like I did my original plan to transition some 35 years ago. The things you mention as being difficult for them , they actually take in stride by virtue of who they are and they take on and deal with the feelings directly. I honestly don't think I could "cut the mustard" with that which is why I need my guy side as a safe haven when the going gets tough.:)

[Nicki B]

Many of the t girls I chat with want to be woman

I don't think it's 'want', more 'need'? It's just the way we were made. :)

[Deborah Jane]

Sometimes i want to be a woman full time, sometimes i,m happy the way i am.
I,ll just stick with who i am for now and see if these feelings get stronger :)

[Nicole Erin]

In a perfect world yes I would be female.
I just don't relate to men well. I feel better about myself en femme. I am not much of a man anyways...

You know what? I could explain this but I imagine this thread is going to turn into one of those "who the *real* TS are" or about who should or shouldn't be TS or woman or whatever...

If there was a solid reason as to why some MTF gender folks want to be women then it would be easy. I see some really pretty TS who are men or drag queens in women's bodies but that doesn't concern me, it is about -

How do you want to live your life?

[mykhelee]

I don't believe that I want to be female genetically, I enjoy being male. Would I dress as a woman on a daily basis if I could, yes. Don't ask me to explain, it just makes my head hurt.

[docrobbysherry]

Where do you get off thinking guys have it easier?!?!?
Women got it waaaaay easier.

You realize how easy it is for me to manipulate men now that I'm a woman?
I can easily con a boy into giving me money by just talking and acting cute.
And being a girl you get most things for free when a man's around and you don't necessarily have to give them what they want in return!

WTF was you thinking gurl?

After reading Tessa's answer!

Maybe u should have asked, " Who would rather be a homely woman, rather than an unattractive man"?

Even as a CD, I have a difficult time understanding why anyone would choose to be a woman, given those choices!

I think a great many of us would pick being a young, hot woman. If that was the option in your question!:eek:

[KathrynTX]

There have been times I thought I'd like to be fully female so I could wear all my sexy clothes whenever I wanted, but when I think of everything else that goes with it....I'll stay a guy and just put on the clothes when the mood strikes me, thank you very much. :heehee:

[Jonianne]

When I was a child, I never "wished" I was a girl, I never even thought about it. I had too much fun playing with my toys (train sets and toy soldiers). I did start CD'ing at 7, but that was just the fasination of dressing as a girl.

It wasn't untill I was in my 20's and 30's before I started wishing I had been born a female. Not only did I like the nicer cloths, but I liked the way females were treated (at least by my rose colored glasses). As a male I was so emotionaly strapped, women could express themselves so much easier emotionaly and physically (cloths and expression wise).

I also want people to feel safe around me without any fear of threat. Being a male, you have to prove that you are safe before females begin to trust you. I am someone who perfers to be in the supporting role rather than the lead role. Even though women have more options nowadays, its easier to be in the supporting role as a female. Males are expected to be in the lead and that's just not me. I perfer to stand back and view the whole and try to find ways where I could help. I want to give of myself to others.

Mostly, I feel at home when I see myself as a female.

I will make do being a male, but I am not comfortable in that role and the expectations that go with it. I don't really see myself as being female on the inside (I hope that I am), mostly I just want to be like a female and to be able to identify with females, even though I am not one.

Can any of you GG's or TS's anoint me as an honorary female?

[ReineD]

You realize how easy it is for me to manipulate men now that I'm a woman?

I can easily con a boy into giving me money by just talking and acting cute.

And being a girl you get most things for free when a man's around and you don't necessarily have to give them what they want in return!

WTF was you thinking gurl?

Real women don't need to manipulate men. They are honest, have self-respect, and have the emotional maturity to either provide for themselves or be in an equal partnership with a man.

And if they are easily manipulated as boys, with time men learn not to be so easily manipulated. So the game you speak of is short lived. It is a luxury for the young and the foolish. :hugs:

[Joni Beauman]

Oh, I wish I was, I wish I was, I wish I was a girl, woman, female and all that comes with it. ta da! hmmm. Still didn't happen. Sigh...Joni

[bimini1]

I do think this world and being socialized as a male made me into the male I am today. That is why I too feel like coming back home if I have not dressed in a while and finally get to do so. It is like that is the real me, all this other is something that has been put into me by society.

Left to my own reality without all of these social trappings of being male I feel as though I would have naturally oriented towards the femmine. Not effeminate, but feminne, because I know plenty of effeminate men and that is just not me. People around me feel as though I am all masculine acting, which is the freaky part because in my mind I am relating to them as feminne. I've had people tell me out of the blue I'd make a terrible girl, then at other times have been ma'amed in drab.

There are times when I want to be physiologically female, but not all the time. Most of the time I wish I could just present as female gender but not physical then other times I want to present all the way. Not as another person but as me if I would have got that X c'some. The female version of what is , now , a male me.

If, when dealing with others , co-workers ,etc, that I allow myself in my own mind to present as the female side I have a much more pleasant, confident outlook & demeanor. Things are not nearly as awkward. I just wish I could wear the clothes and give it to 'em totally instead of only in my own mind.

[karinels]

I would have been happier as a girl from birth. Anyone can try to cloud the beauty of it by highlighting the puberty, periods, pregnancy, job equallity, respect, and so on. But to me, if thats who I was from birth, homely or pretty, I'd take that over who I am anyday. I mean, if thats what you expect from birth, how can that be considered a hinderance?

I hate being male. I am not a male. Males are take charge, aggressive humans. I am passive, submissive, and have not been able to seduce a woman as a man would ever. I dream of being a girl, I wish I was a girl, and if ever in the right situation financially, I will become a girl. But I wont transition half assed, it will be everything, hormones, voice femminization, srs, ffs, the works.

[Mollyanne]

ME; I WANT TO BE A WOMAN AND IF I WERE 25 YEARS YOUNGER I WOULD GO THE "NINE YARDS" TO ACCOMPLISH THAT GOAL. WHENEVER I AM DRESSED I AM THAT WOMAN THAT I DREAM ABOUT!!!!

:love: Mollyanne

[TGMarla]

I think I'd have greatly enjoyed life had I been born a woman. I wasn't, I'm not going to transition, so I deal with it as best I can. But I still lament the fact that I 'lost' the coin flip every day.

[StaceyJane]

I wish that I could explain it. All I know is that I feel much better as Stacey and I've always wanted to be her. I didn't sit down and do a comparison, this is just who I am.

Stacey :)

[maid phylis]

from my earliest years i always wanted to be a woman ,but as we are trapped in this body till whatever happens to us i am just as happy to be a cd and dress up when i want and go out on the days allowed to me by my wife.she knows and understands me and we are happy .:love:phylisanne

[Susan Watersfield]

I've never felt that I should have been born a woman. Basically, I'm someone who enjoys imersing themself in feminine things and enjoying the effects.

From the viewpoint of a M-F crossdresser, there are many aspects of a woman's life that have no appeal. These include menstruation, men, and childbirth.

However, I must admit that there are times when I feel curious and wonder what it would have been like to have been born a woman. And I do mean to have experienced everything. But I do this knowing that it's never going to happen.

I've stated before that one day I would be quite content to live full time as a woman, but only as a M-F crossdresser.

Hope this sheds a bit of light on the subject.

Luv

Susan

[tina2007]

I do not want to be a woman, I want to look like one sometimes, I just want to be me, and sometimes that miens looking fem. But Im my everyday life I'm quite happy being a man, doing man things.. I even likes dressing up with a nice suit and tie..
tina,

[T Sara Lynn]

There is no doubt we genetic males have it easier. It is, after all "a man's world" (like it or not). That doesn't mean I like being a male. I have no choice, I was born one. I would rather be a woman, a genetic woman, and I'm aware of that all the time. The trials and tribulations genetic women have are part of what it is to be one, and that's something none of us - post op included - will ever truly experience. Can a post op girl menstruate? Can a post op girl bear a child? Never. As a child I would go to bed at night WISHING I'd wake up the next day as a girl, and as I got older I came to realize that wish would never come true. However, that realization didn't diminish the desire; it has always been there (rekindled a few years back when I "resurfaced"). I - me - would gladly give up the "advantages" genetic males possess to be who I really am. The "disadvantages" are a validation none of us will ever know. No matter the strength of our desire.

[Nicki B]

Perhaps there are two questions here: Why do TSs want... Why do CDs want...

The first is very easy; Nicki's answered it already: for TSs "I don't think it's 'want', more 'need'"

Isn't it actually a 'need' for both groups? The only difference, surely, is in the degree to which that need exerts itself.

I know many TSs would disagree with me, but the only distinction I see (and the reason for using the term) is that they (F2M or M2F) need specific medical intervention (hormones, surgery, etc) to live in comfort with themselves.


And I think there is also sometimes an element not of needing to be a woman, but of needing NOT to be a man? I know that for me, long before I ever knew what a female anatomy should be, male genitalia just looked and felt wrong, somehow?

[Valeria]

Isn't it actually a 'need' for both groups? The only difference, surely, is in the degree to which that need exerts itself.
Is it? You often assert this, but there are other CDs who adamantly maintain that they have no need or desire to be a woman, even in part, even in fantasy. I've seen a lot of motivations for crossdressing explained over the years that had nothing to do with a need to be a woman, much less an actual internal conviction that you are mentally female. So perhaps you shouldn't overgeneralize to the point where you are actually invalidating the statements of other people?


I know many TSs would disagree with me, but the only distinction I see (and the reason for using the term) is that they (F2M or M2F) need specific medical intervention (hormones, surgery, etc) to live in comfort with themselves.
Not all TS women and men choose to have surgery, and some opt for surgeries on secondary characteristics but not genital surgery, so I don't see how this is true. Being TS is not solely defined by medical interventions. Surely you are not claiming that the trans guys who are members of this forum who have no plans for bottom surgery are not TS because of that decision?

I didn't choose to start HRT until shortly before surgery, because I didn't think it mattered much given my unusual endocrine system. That didn't mean I wasn't TS, it just meant I didn't see an immediate advantage to HRT sufficient to take powerful drugs. (I've since decided that I was mistaken, as I reacted more strongly to estrogen then I imagined.)

What does come closer to defining TS folk is that they all strongly identify as their true gender, and they need to live as such. A trans female has a female gender identity, she feels compelled to commit totally to living as a woman, and she generally changes her life in indelible ways in pursuit of that goal. If you do all those things, you are undoubtably TS. If you do not, but you fantasize about it or take lesser measures, and you experience some degree of the same types of gender dysphoria, then you are clearly closely related -- but that's *NOT* an accurate description of all crossdressers, according to the self report of many of them.

However, the gap between "dreaming of" and "doing" is quite large, and much of gender is experiential. One may identify as a woman, but in the end actually being a woman requires living as one. This is probably the biggest difference between most CDs and TS people.


And I think there is also sometimes an element not of needing to be a woman, but of needing NOT to be a man? I know that for me, long before I ever knew what a female anatomy should be, male genitalia just looked and felt wrong, somehow?
Eh. They were wrong only to the extent that they were not congruent with my identity. The problem was not what they were, the problem was what they were not.

Has it occurred to you, dear Nicki, that you believe crossdressers and transsexuals are essentially indistinguishable simply because you identify with the wrong group? How certain are you that you are not transsexual, but simply have been unwilling (for whatever reason) to go as far in transition as some of us?

[firststepnow_whynot]

Absolutely. I wish i was a woman.

For both men and women, there are challenges specifically to the particular sex. So that wouldnt play big on my mind. Being a woman would have been the most wonderful thing (and i say this as being born male). I dont know whether being born a female, i would have had the same intensity as i have now. Maybe i would have anyways joined this forum and wished I was man ...:-).

Being a Hindu, I believe in life after death. So next life, my prayers are that I be born as a female.

[Valeria]

You realize how easy it is for me to manipulate men now that I'm a woman?

I can easily con a boy into giving me money by just talking and acting cute.

And being a girl you get most things for free when a man's around and you don't necessarily have to give them what they want in return!

WTF was you thinking gurl?
Getting some sugar daddy to buy you trinkets places you in a dependent role, compared to the man with actual real world power and income. Kept women hardly rule the world, and the trinkets they receive don't make up for the gender inequities in income and authority found elsewhere.

That's also not much of a life plan, good luck being a kept woman when you are in your mid-forties...

[Nicki B]

Is it? You often assert this, but there are other CDs who adamantly maintain that they have no need or desire to be a woman, even in part, even in fantasy. I've seen a lot of motivations for crossdressing explained over the years that had nothing to do with a need to be a woman, much less an actual internal conviction that you are mentally female. So perhaps you shouldn't overgeneralize to the point where you are actually invalidating the statements of other people?

I'd thought I didn't actually suggest there was always a need to be a woman - my chief point was that what we do was a need, not a choice? I was definitely trying to not tell other people what they were - my points were deliberately posed as questions? But perhaps I didn't appreciate the thread title enough when I made my comment..

Could expressing one's femininity, liking the look of femme clothing, or simply liking the feel of it, be more of a symptom than the underlying cause? No one yet knows what that really is.. Dysphoria is itself surely only a description of a symptom?

But I wouldn't ever want to tell anybody else what they were - that's surely only for themselves to decide.


Not all TS women and men choose to have surgery, and some opt for surgeries on secondary characteristics but not genital surgery, so I don't see how this is true. Being TS is not solely defined by medical interventions. Surely you are not claiming that the trans guys who are members of this forum who have no plans for bottom surgery are not TS because of that decision?

Again, I deliberately didn't specify what surgery - and IMHO, just taking hormones requires medical intervention?

I don't think one can say a TS is a wholly different animal (as many try to) - there are too many blurred lines, it's a matter of degree?


What does come closer to defining TS folk is that they all strongly identify as their true gender, and they need to live as such. A trans female has a female gender identity, she feels compelled to commit totally to living as a woman, and she generally changes her life in indelible ways in pursuit of that goal. If you do all those things, you are undoubtably TS.

I'd agree. But what's the difference between a TS who doesn't take hormones, or seek any surgery, or permanent hair removal, and any other degree of transgender? I know people who have done none of those, but live fulltime in the female role. Some definitely don't self-identify as TS, so that's why I suggest the use of the term in the way I do?


If you do not, but you fantasize about it or take lesser measures, and you experience some degree of the same types of gender dysphoria, then you are clearly closely related -- but that's *NOT* an accurate description of all crossdressers, according to the self report of many of them.

Of course it's not - but again, perhaps it's a matter of degree?



Eh. They were wrong only to the extent that they were not congruent with my identity. The problem was not what they were, the problem was what they were not.

Those are your personal feelings, which surely are as equally valid as mine?


Has it occurred to you, dear Nicki, that you believe crossdressers and transsexuals are essentially indistinguishable simply because you identify with the wrong group? How certain are you that you are not transsexual, but simply have been unwilling (for whatever reason) to go as far in transition as some of us?

That's been suggested to me many times, in the past - but I choose to stay on the continuum where I am, because I simply don't need to transition any further?


Perhaps that's why I have the view I do - because I seem to sit so squarely between the two 'apparent' camps.. And I know I'm definitely not alone.

When you sit at one end of a spectrum, the opposite end looks very different. When you sit in the middle, you can see similarities both ways?

[karynspanties]

If I could go back in time, knowing what I know now, even though I love my family, I would take a differant path. I would have found a way to start hormones as young as I could have started. From what I have seen, the best looking transexuals started hormones very young while their bodies were still developing. I would have done that and eventually fully transitioned. I am so much more comfortable with myself when dressed. But now at my age, with a family and career, it's too late. Too many poeple would be hurt, so I will just continue to underdress 24/7 and go out fully enfemme when the occasion arises.

[sherib]

If I was born a GG, that would have been fine. Everything would have happened naturally. As I groe older I wanted SRS. But the cost, the pain of surgery and completely changing your life was not for me. I just love who I am now. I would love to dress more, but it's just not something I can do all the time.:daydreaming:

[dionne xdresser]

i would definately rather be born a girl after all im pretty girlie and sensitive already i dont have a deep voice and i truly believe i was supposed 2 be born a girl and one day i will get the op and become the girl inside me xxxxxxxx

[MelindaHow]

I do wish I was, however, don't ask me why, I'm still trying to figure that out.,
I know all the reasons why NOT, but that doesn't stop me from wishing. Will it ever happen? .... Not in this life, and I know that.

So, the wish is there, but I'm not gonna "stress" over the fact that it's only a wish and not a reality.


Could not have said it better!
Thank you Phyliss....

I have wanted to be a girl for as long as I can remember. The unfortunate thing is I've been a male for 47 years and don't think thing are going to change now. :sad:

[June Campbell]

When I was small, up to my mid teens I wished I was a girl. I came to realise it couldn't be. Now I seem to have the best of both worlds, I enjoy the "man" things I do and being a father etc, but I also wish I had more time to spend dressed "properly". Would I become a woman, like Mollyanne, if I were 35 to 40 years younger I probably would.

[Delila]

Once a month my wife tells me "you want to be a woman you can have these horrible cramps" to which I would love to reply sure if it meant that I could truly be a woman. I would love to transition however I do not have the build or height my will is not strong enough to be odd. I think the reason really is just that I feel like I was supposed to be a woman I was just unfortunate to be born a tall male.

[Andrea Elva]

Well I am a woman that is why...I was born with a small problem ..my body was not right for my mind.
I was always female but had to paly the part of a man because I had male parts...wher the female parts should have been.:)

[Lisa Golightly]

'I'm just a girl who can't so no, I can't say no, I can't say no' :)

[jina]

To quote kdlang: "Constant Craving has always been". I was in Lowes the other day and that song was on and my eyes were moist (I'm a musician anyway,.. proned to being moved by music). My earliest memories have that particular wish in them. I have been well-liked and popular as a "guy" all of these years and been a successful musician,.. have 5 children and an accepting wife. No way would I wouldn't trade that stuff,... but I certainly wish I had a second life to live this desire out in (if the Hindus are right, then I just banished myself to another go round here in Crackerbox Palace - yikes :).

[Teri Jean]

I'm not sure I would want to be full time from this point on but if I could for a year I think I would jump at it. The thing is implants can be removed but if the "package" is removed it's gone forever. Then is the question would you date men? NO Way. But the thought of being female for a time is there. Hugs Keli

[JoleneCDinPA]

I absolutely wish I were a girl! Love that silky lacey feel!: daydreaming:

[María José]

I would like to be a woman! I would like to give birth children and raise them with all the disadventages and adventages of being a woman.

[Valerie]

I ask this question to myself often, especially as I see so many people who without any effort already are women... and I look rather good as a man. I must confess I don't know. The world, though, has come to be divided into feminine and masculine domains, as we can see clearly in department stores. I am attracted to women's clothes because they go together with feminine pleasures I enjoy, such as conversation, tenderness, caring, art, emotion, and so on. I don't enjoy violent competition, drinking beer, war, getting ahead, gross jokes, and so many aspects of what is usually associated with a male style. I very well know that my classification is simplistic, and that there are many men who are sophisticated, in tune with their emotions, collaborative, and who prefer to talk about feelings to analyzing sports. But in the world in which I live these preferences generally apply to the masculine and the feminine, and I find myself happy in the female side of the store...
Valerie :2c:

[frenchie]

It's nice to be a girl when I'm dressed but it's nice to be a bloke as well, for me it's the thrill of trying to pass as a woman. But then all of us girls have different needs Frenchie Gina

[Alice Torn]

Culture has changed slowly, but surely. Women were once considered less smart, and less valuable than men. Now, it is men that are devalued, and attractive, smart women, are valued higher than us blokes. Men are devalues, unless successful. Women are not valued unless attractive. But, there is no doubt that many men are devalues, and unwanted- considered losers, unless financially successful. A poor bloke has very little chance of landing an attractive woman. Dressing up as a classy middle age lady, kind of helps me make up for my lack of a mate, but, when i go out as a guy, the sorrow really hits, when I see couples, and lovely girls, and women. Loner men have it worst, in our society, with disenfranchisement, and sorrow.

[Hali]

When I was a child, I never "wished" I was a girl, I never even thought about it. I had too much fun playing with my toys (train sets and toy soldiers). I did start CD'ing at 7, but that was just the fasination of dressing as a girl.

It wasn't untill I was in my 20's and 30's before I started wishing I had been born a female. Not only did I like the nicer cloths, but I liked the way females were treated (at least by my rose colored glasses). As a male I was so emotionaly strapped, women could express themselves so much easier emotionaly and physically (cloths and expression wise).

I also want people to feel safe around me without any fear of threat. Being a male, you have to prove that you are safe before females begin to trust you. I am someone who perfers to be in the supporting role rather than the lead role. Even though women have more options nowadays, its easier to be in the supporting role as a female. Males are expected to be in the lead and that's just not me. I perfer to stand back and view the whole and try to find ways where I could help. I want to give of myself to others.

Mostly, I feel at home when I see myself as a female.

I will make do being a male, but I am not comfortable in that role and the expectations that go with it. I don't really see myself as being female on the inside (I hope that I am), mostly I just want to be like a female and to be able to identify with females, even though I am not one.

Can any of you GG's or TS's anoint me as an honorary female?

Jonianne said it all for me.

But i think there was a thread like this previously, anyways do i want to be a woman? what can say OK lets not kid ourselves we cant be "real" women, not yet i think (may be in future when surgery advances), but if we are talking about "women life style"? yes i prefer women life style cos its full of color, gossip, cat-fights, better self expression barbally and other wise, free to show weakness when you want to, so many different style of clothes and shoes, more considerate, being smart when it comes to survival and the one i like the most.......... shying away from difficult things by allowing men to do it and most men do it gladly to impress the ladies, ................

i like makeup, i like pretty colors...........i seriously envy the attention women get from men i dont know why........OK i remember what i said in the similar thread i was talking about above......i said............i want to live as a woman if given the chance, i want to grow old as woman...i want my skin to age and look unattractive as a woman.........

My thots are so femme sometimes, sometimes i become confused and insecure like a typical chick.........when i think of myself getting old as a woman when there will be no youth and no man, woman or Cd to find me attractive i still feel happy just like i feel now..........i know all the stress women go through i feel it for them its like a part of me is under going the stress............but i want to be a strong woman who can work and earn her keep, have kids and achieve all there is to achieve in my career. I dont see men as superior or inferior on the contrary i think women are complementing men and vice-versa, and women use men as men use women..........

i see my image as a man as if its in my past...........the old me when i didnt know better...........i can go on and on, sorry for the long reply.

[fiona_libby]

I have had the desire for most of my life to live as a woman and the biggest wish I have is to have avoided any part of being male and thus I would have loved to have been born female. As I was born male I have been dealing with the problem of making my dream come true but also dealing with the misunderstanding of the general public and my family and friends about who I consider myself to be.

Fiona

[Kelsy]

Being a girl has always been my deepest longing and be saddest unrealized wish

Kelsy:sad:

[Juanita O]

After reading all of the other post on here i wish that i was a women, I have to accept that i was born a male,I am still trying to accept my female side. All this being said i was born the wrong sex.

[sfwarbonnet]

Yes, I would like to be a female full-time, if I could do so without losing my family and friends, as the are more important to me than CDing. Thus I keep underdressing and going as far as I feel comfortable with. I have previously found that that women’s pull-on slacks and shorts, briefs, nylons, slips, a bra, and a purse are OK in “boy mode”.

As Katie B noted, the real question is this: “are we doing all we can to advance sex equality, whichever set of clothes we're wearing?” I think men should be as comfortable wearing women’s clothes as GG’s are in wearing men’s clothing. I underdress daily and am comfortable wearing women's clothing. Specific findings are listed in my initial post in the Suitable Clothing thread so are not repeated here. I also posted these suggestions on a forum for those with Multiple Sclerosis. The overwhelming response was that men should only wear menswear period (no pun intended) and avoid “girl” things. Apparently society is not ready to accept a man wearing traditionally women's clothing, even when they provide accommodations for difficulty due to limited flexibility, lousy balance, exposed skin, and swelling of the lower legs.

[sometimes_miss]

For all the difficulties that women face in day to day living, I can see why most people would wonder why any man would wish to have that life. My own ex wife asked me the same question, why in the world would anyone want to make their life more complicated. And more complicated it is; the sheer amount of time spent on personal care, hair, make up, clothing, jewelry choices and maintenence, frequent attire adjustments due to a more precise fit, shoes that frequently hurt, even just going to the bathroom is much more complicated. Add to that, safety issues, growing up being taught from the moment she is self aware that there are only certain acceptable behaviors for her regarding relationships and of course, sex. All of this makes a woman's life 'more difficult' than a man's in so many ways. So, why, you ask, would any man prefer this? It's simple, really. So simple, that people just don't see the forest for the trees. For whatever reason, whatever cause, we see ourselves, or feel ourselves, to be female. It may not be a correct self identification, it may be a mistake. There can be countless causes for this, and I can only know my own, and guess at other's. When I was younger, yes, I did long to be female. Every day I would see girls, women go by, and wonder why I wasn't one of them. I gradually learned that I wasn't really a female, I didn't start out that way. Certain chain of events caused all this in me, it wasn't something within my control. I was just a child, I didn't know what was happening to me, or why. I didn't understand how all the influences were steering me towards a female self identification. Much later, I figured it all out, but by then, it was far too late. During our developmental years, our personalities are formed, shaped, and we become much of who we will be for the rest of our lives. I was dressed like a girl; I was told things that made me believe that I was supposed to be a girl; I was left on my own to see that some of my behavior wasn't appropriate for a boy; but that it was, for a girl. I was molested, dressed as a girl, taught to be a girl for someone else's pleasure throughout my entire childhood, nearly every single day. I was told that god made a mistake, and that if I practiced being a good girl, then I could become a woman when I got older because god would see that I knew what I truly was. I learned how to be someone's girlfriend. I learned that I was good at that, and so it must be true, that I was supposed to be a girl. And I believed that until I was almost all the way through high school. By then it was too late. My feelings, my behavior, who I thought I was supposed to be, was set. I did learn to behave as a 'standard issue guy' in order to date women, but it's just an act. Even though I know my brain functions and thought processes are male, I still feel like I am supposed to be female. It won't ever go away. So I've learned to live with it. I don't fight it anymore. I spend most of my time dressed as a woman, I wear a long wig to reinforce the illusion. Externally I'm male, internally I feel female. I know that my desire to be female is mostly due to the desire to feel congruence in my life, and also to alleviate the shame of being a male who allowed another male to take advantage of me, also knowing that men aren't allowed to be seen as victims, because it shows weakness. Women are allowed to be victims; they are allowed to have weaknesses. A woman who has been abused by a man is seen as someone who needs to be protected, and it doesn't necessarily destroy his attraction to her; often the opposite, it inspires a desire to take care of her. A man who was abused by another man is seen as weak, and suspect, less of a man many would say. It destroys the attraction a woman might feel for him. Women are attracted to strong men, they want someone who could protect them if necessary. A man who 'let' himself be 'used' isn't seen as reliably protective, after all, if he cannot protect himself, he probably can't protect her either. So our subconscious selves compensate by telling us that we should have been female, because at least being abused wouldn't be seen as our fault for 'letting' it happen. At least, that's the way it is for me. And so...I want to be female because it fits who I thought I was supposed to be for so much of my life, and because it relieves me of the shame of 'allowing' someone to take advantage of me over all those years.

[Chrissy8888]

In my case as a little kid I always wanted to be a woman. I think it is different for everybody. In my case there is certain mystic to being a woman that I desire. I can’t explain why that is. However I was born male and so I accept that and embrace my female desires. Maybe that is what makes me tick.

[sfwarbonnet]

My wife has said several times that being a woman is much more than sex and appearance, however these are way down on her priority list, and she never seems to get a round-tuit. I would say her wardrobe is masculine, no sexy lingerie, dresses, or skirts, and she wears only very light makeup with a unisex haircut. Although most of her clothes came from the woman’s department, the only really femme items are bras and panties! , A while ago I found that her panties were ideal, but she delayed getting them for me until she tired of my asking, and I noted that her late Mom’s pull-on pants were my size and I suggested wearing them. She not only said no, but HELL NO. She is very possessive about her clothes: there’s “hers” and “mine”. No sharing. It seems that she doesn’t want to look like a woman, but I do.

[lauraabdl]

I don't call my crossdressing the best of both genders for nothing.... All the advantages of being male and none of the disadvantages of living female!! imho...

I must totally agree with Karen.
Laura:2c:

[Louise C]

~If i was a teenager today, i would definitely be on the road to womanhood. It really pisses me off that i didn't have the courage or knowledge that there were others like me when i was a young 'un. I'm 41 now so i reckon with having two teenage boys and a wife with all the trimmings it will never be possible for me now.

Doesn't stop me from secretly wishing every singleday though. Bummer.

[MJ]

we are the sum total of all our parts. if i were born a woman i doubt i would be tolerant of others nor would i accept any of this gender stuff..

i am so thankful i am who i am.

oh louise i started when i was 43

[Louise C]

MJ, you look fabulous from your pic!

[RebekahT]

I would have been happier as a girl from birth. Anyone can try to cloud the beauty of it by highlighting the puberty, periods, pregnancy, job equallity, respect, and so on. But to me, if thats who I was from birth, homely or pretty, I'd take that over who I am anyday. I mean, if thats what you expect from birth, how can that be considered a hinderance?

I hate being male. I am not a male. Males are take charge, aggressive humans. I am passive, submissive, and have not been able to seduce a woman as a man would ever. I dream of being a girl, I wish I was a girl, and if ever in the right situation financially, I will become a girl. But I wont transition half assed, it will be everything, hormones, voice femminization, srs, ffs, the works.

I agree with this totally. I've had to play the male because of Biology but I don't like it. I live two lives. The one forced on me by Biology and the one that I want to live.

Rebekah

[sherib]

If I was born a woman it would have been fine. I would've been attracted to women still. If I had SRS when I was very young, maybe. To have it now, no way. I like it just the way it is now. I just wish I could get out of the closet.naw.

[danygirl]

I dont want to be a woman, in fact I can go months at a time without dressing. I went from last October until this September without doing it.

I have plans to do it in the next few weeks and will probably not do it for a long time again and I doubt i'll miss it.

Not sure what that makes me but I've just spent a fortune on all sorts of outfits.

I find that when I do it if I take plenty of photos and videos that keeps the feelings at bay.

[Mandy60]

I may only be a cd but if I had the chance I would love to be a woman. The glamorous clothes you could wear everyday. I may have a man's body but my inner thoughts say I am a woman.

[pink femme]

Being a guy has it advantages and there are so many of them.

However (BUT) when those girly feelings take over I so desperately want to be a woman, it hurts. All the natural feelings in the world seem to come out...I am jealous of my wife as a wife, as a mother, as someone who is so pretty, who was a bride and yes even someone who has a monthly cycle.

Badly payed jobs...who cares!!! When those girly feelings kick in, I'd swap :o

[marny]

I love karren hutton and she is consistient in her opinion. She makes a very good argument. There are days that I wouldn';t fare so well in a dress. but I'm stril going out in the dress. :):D