View Full Version : Do you feel that all CD'S have what it takes to go out and/or pass.
LA CINDY LOVE
11-09-2008, 08:18 PM
I feel that all Cd's have what it takes to go out, the only thing that is stopping them is them self's but when it come to passing lets face it there are some that are better then others.
To many Cd's feel that the more you look like a woman the better you pass OK that may be true but they do not know how to act like a woman, ether they fall short or they over do it.
The only difference between those Cd's who go out and those who do not is Confidence and none of us really pass.....we just have confidence in our self and we know how to act like a woman.
LA CINDY LOVE
Nicki B
11-09-2008, 08:26 PM
Very few of us truly 'pass' as a natal female, but we can certainly all go out..
Alice Torn
11-09-2008, 08:54 PM
I would say that all cd's can pass, at a distance, but, closer up, is where most are read, even when dressed well, and presented well.
Jonianne
11-09-2008, 09:55 PM
.......The only difference between those Cd's who go out and those who do not is Confidence and none of us really pass.....we just have confidence in our self and we know how to act like a woman.LA CINDY LOVE
You don't even have to "act" like a woman. Just be yourself in most situations without acting too "manly".
In my case, if people have any sort of discernment, they can tell I am male, so I don't pretend to be otherwise. A friendly smile will usually disarm most people. Most don't even pay close enough attention to tell.
victoriamwilliams1
11-09-2008, 10:05 PM
You don't even have to "act" like a woman. Just be yourself in most situations without acting too "manly".
In my case, if people have any sort of discernment, they can tell I am male, so I don't pretend to be otherwise. A friendly smile will usually disarm most people. Most don't even pay close enough attention to tell.
I am with you here, I smile and just act like myself. The ting for those of who do go out is that we act natural and not show fear. If you are just going out for the first time it is very hard but as time goes on you get back into the swing.
Karren H
11-09-2008, 10:05 PM
We can all pass as crossdressers for sure.. And after all.. There's nothing wrong with that!! :)
BeckyAnderson
11-09-2008, 10:15 PM
Everyone seems to want to pass as a woman before venturing out. There are very few of us who actually look and act like a woman. I think we have this desire to look like women because we have not yet reached complete self acceptance and are lacking the confidence to face the world as who we are, crossdressers. Looking like a woman would ease the guilt that we have felt and it would ease that burden of dealing with the possible stares or negative comments. I think if you are comfortable with who you are then you pass. I think if you feel complete and satisfied dressing as a woman then you pass. Life is too short and attitudes are changing......Enjoy the gift.
Hugs,
Becky
Teri Jean
11-09-2008, 10:16 PM
Yes Karen we do, thanks. The idea some are more convincing is somewhat true but here are many gg women who, well have a time being a woman. The human body is a wonderful thing but some people struggle to maintain their given gender let alone fit into the other. I for one am glad i have chosen both. Keli
renee k
11-09-2008, 10:19 PM
You don't even have to "act" like a woman. Just be yourself in most situations without acting too "manly".
In my case, if people have any sort of discernment, they can tell I am male, so I don't pretend to be otherwise. A friendly smile will usually disarm most people. Most don't even pay close enough attention to tell.
I really think Jonianne has the right idea, and that confidence in yourself goes a long way. When people look my way I give them a nice smile.And don't be afraid to make eye contact, it will disarm them every time. When I'm out shopping I approach the situation like this is perfectly normal for me to be doing this, and no one gives me a second look. Even though my looks are not 100% female. To me this is what one has to do to pass in public. Act like you own the joint. It will work everytime. Just remember women like men come all sorts of sizes and shapes.
Huggs, Renee
sometimes_miss
11-09-2008, 10:55 PM
I would say that all cd's can pass, at a distance, but, closer up, is where most are read, even when dressed well, and presented well.
I can pass from about two miles away, as long as I don't try to move. Arthritis makes me walk funny; add heels to the mix and you could add me to the ministry of funny walks (old Monty Python skit).
Clara
11-09-2008, 10:58 PM
Everyone seems to want to pass as a woman before venturing out. ... I think we have this desire to look like women because we have not yet reached complete self acceptance and are lacking the confidence to face the world as who we are, crossdressers.
Excellent, Becky. Your post really made me think. Everyone is different so this won't apply to every cd but there might be much truth in your words. I'm still trying to figure out myself and your words are extremely helpful. Thank you!
Janet Bern
11-10-2008, 10:58 AM
I have gone out and am tall and seems like no one really notices that I am not a woman. It also is funny that I constantly look for possible CDs when I am anywhere. I dare to say that I have never been able to spot one. So, as a man I never notice a CD so I also would assume that any men that werent even looking would never notice a CD unless they were men wearing a dress an flaunting it.
The only difference between those Cd's who go out and those who do not is Confidence and none of us really pass.....we just have confidence in our self and we know how to act like a woman.
LA CINDY LOVE
it's not about passing... it's the Confidence you show while out and about
Holly
11-10-2008, 11:30 AM
This passing thing is way over rated. Who determines if you "pass" or not? If it is anyone other than yourself, you have surrendered way too much power over your own life! Holly is no runway model. Holly is a mature woman with a young heart. She loves being around people. The key to passing is not how other people see you, it's how well you know yourself and see yourself. Case in point... last weekend on our way home from Las Vegas I stopped at Primm for a "comfort" break and to get a soda. I got in line like any other girl, waited my turn, and got my beverages. Here's a picture of me waiting in line to be served...
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Does anyone in the picture look like they are bent out of shape or shocked by the fact that there is a cross dresser among them? Nobody cared! I wasn't a cross dresser... I was just another customer waiting to be served, just like they were. If you believe in yourself, others will find it much easier to believe in you as well.
Jess West
11-10-2008, 11:38 AM
I would say that all cd's can pass, at a distance, but, closer up, is where most are read, even when dressed well, and presented well.
I agree with this.
Kelly DeWinter
11-10-2008, 11:41 AM
Holly
What an awesome post. I have to agree. Your picture says it all. Most people just don't care. Yes some 'girls' pass easily, some it takes "a lot of putty and paint to make a girl what she aint". It all depends on the 'look' you want to achieve. Some gg's look more like men these days without even trying . Some CD/TG when they are young 'pass' well, but the older we get the more putty and superglue and spandex it takes. The bottom line is go out and have fun. Be yourself. Who cares if you are 'read'. Live life enjoy, have fun, let someone else have the ulcer.
Kelly
Nadia-Maria
11-10-2008, 12:19 PM
I often go out (hiking) "semifemme", since it is the way I often feel the best with my androgynous self.
No need to act as femme or to try to speak with a feminine voice. I'm just myself, dressed mostly in male clothes and shoes, but with my bra and my boobs, and a few other feminine pink add-ons.
In such circumstances, I appear just as a crossdresser, who I am. And I try to fool nobody with me being a GG.
charlie
11-10-2008, 12:53 PM
Hello Cindy Love!
Many of us just have that manly mug that no amount of makeup can let us pass with. A manly jaw is a manly jaw. That said, we can still go out and be the best transvestite we can be. And still get compliments and smiles while doing it. My latest compliment (I think it was) was being told by a 20 something GG I was talking to was that I had my Patrick Swayze
thing going and that I was doing it well. I was dressed in a canary yellow skirtsuit, wig, makeup and yellow 4" heels. I thought I looked pretty good...did she? Being Patrick Swayze as in the Foo Movie is not passing. Still a man in a dress....but enough?
I feel that all Cd's have what it takes to go out, the only thing that is stopping them is them self's but when it come to passing lets face it there are some that are better then others.
To many Cd's feel that the more you look like a woman the better you pass OK that may be true but they do not know how to act like a woman, ether they fall short or they over do it.
The only difference between those Cd's who go out and those who do not is Confidence and none of us really pass.....we just have confidence in our self and we know how to act like a woman.
LA CINDY LOVE
From the little knowledge i have on transgender i think CDs are a bit different from transsexuals in the sense that CDs are mostly men that dresses or act like women "once in a while" majority of them dont really want to be women permanently...............so they are like "part-time" women so i think the way they pass is comensurate to how hard they try at a time to look like a GG.
......... hence they shouldnt expect themselves to be women 100% (if they want to be fair, except if they are using a magic ring or something that can achieve 100% transformation).................on that note, a CD can simply go out freely hoping to be passable and enjoy his/her day or get angry if someone says "look a dude in a dress" so yes CDs have what it takes to go out which is confidence and expecting fair judgement from people.
Miss Tessa
11-10-2008, 01:44 PM
I hang out with CD's that pass just as well and sometimes BETTER than some Transsexual women.
I know for a fact because I have friends that never have taken hormones and they pass real easy.
A laaaaaaaaarrrrrrgggge portion that determines passing is mannerisms,voice, and attitude.
LA CINDY LOVE
11-10-2008, 05:16 PM
Everyone seems to want to pass as a woman before venturing out. There are very few of us who actually look and act like a woman. I think we have this desire to look like women because we have not yet reached complete self acceptance and are lacking the confidence to face the world as who we are, crossdressers. Looking like a woman would ease the guilt that we have felt and it would ease that burden of dealing with the possible stares or negative comments. I think if you are comfortable with who you are then you pass. I think if you feel complete and satisfied dressing as a woman then you pass. Life is too short and attitudes are changing......Enjoy the gift.
Hugs,
Becky
All CD what to pass as a woman before venturing out because we all have a desire to look like a woman, that is why we dress but I do see why it would ease the guilt......
what guilt would we have?
Can all Cd's go out yes...........but all Cd's do not have what it takes to go out you have more Cd's in the closet then those who go out, some Cd's have been in the closet for years but have never gone out then you have some Cd's who do not go out because they feel that they can not pass and you have some Cd's who want to go out but they just do not have the confidence to do it.
Holly you said this passing thing is over rated.........and yes it is to a CD who has confidence in them self....they make going out and passing so easy and natural but a lot of Cd's feel that passing gives them the confidence that they need to go out.
There are times were I feel that some Cd's who have confidence tend to put pressure on those Cd's who do not have confidence..........and I for one do at times.
LA CINDY LOVE
docrobbysherry
11-10-2008, 10:22 PM
So, the only reason us CLOSET CDs don't go out is because we lack confidence? That's a laugh!:devil:
The main reason I don't go out is;
I DON"T WANT PEOPLE TO KNOW I CD!
I am NOT TS/TG, simply a CD! I dress to suit myself, NOT to blend in with the general public! BORING! I have some matronly outfits that I bought when I started dressing about 10 years ago. Haven't worn them since.:thumbsdn:
How about Cds that would scare children? ( I would, out. With or without my masks!) Or, look so rediculous they'd be a spectical going thru a drive thru at 2:00 AM in the morning? For folks like this, it has nothing to do with "confidence". It just proves we're NOT completely insane!:doh:
Some of this stuff is just common sense folks! U don't have to be a nuclear physicist to understand, do u?:)
Bethany_Anne_Fae
11-10-2008, 10:45 PM
We can all pass as crossdressers for sure.. And after all.. There's nothing wrong with that!! :)
I LOVE your answer cause its TRUE!!!!
*hugs*
Zarabeth
LA CINDY LOVE
11-12-2008, 01:53 AM
So, the only reason us CLOSET CDs don't go out is because we lack confidence? That's a laugh!:devil:
The main reason I don't go out is;
I DON"T WANT PEOPLE TO KNOW I CD!
I am NOT TS/TG, simply a CD! I dress to suit myself, NOT to blend in with the general public! BORING! I have some matronly outfits that I bought when I started dressing about 10 years ago. Haven't worn them since.:thumbsdn:
How about Cds that would scare children? ( I would, out. With or without my masks!) Or, look so rediculous they'd be a spectical going thru a drive thru at 2:00 AM in the morning? For folks like this, it has nothing to do with "confidence". It just proves we're NOT completely insane!:doh:
Some of this stuff is just common sense folks! U don't have to be a nuclear physicist to understand, do u?:)
So what you are saying is that you do have confidence, but the reason that you do not go out is.....you do not want people to know that you are a CD, I think a lot of Cd's who go out do not want people to know that they are a CD.
LA CINDY LOVE
slamddoger
11-12-2008, 08:01 AM
i think that all can but it take work . you have to leren how to walk like wome and you have show no fear be out there you have to show confidence in your self if you act natural you have have auttitdes to go out if you act like women pople will to you as a women
battybattybats
11-12-2008, 09:54 AM
I think that everyone in most parts of most western democratic states have what it takes to go out and merely need to find that inner strength to defeat the inner fear.
Any CD that goes out dressed in Jamiaca, Haiti, Iraq, Dubai, Kuwait and many other similar countries need to be considered heroes.
Because those girls and guys are facing Jail with torture or mobs with machettes!
Most of us here on this site do not face arrest and imprisonment by the police or being hacked to death or burnt alive by their neighbours.
Most of us here from Australia the U.K. Europe and the U.S.A. we just need simple courage, but the girls that go out in those countries? They have a courage I could not imagine let alone possess.
And for more in those countries to be safe to go out it'll require us who are safer to win the acceptance here that will get them the acceptance there.
lauraabdl
11-12-2008, 10:24 AM
it's not about passing... it's the Confidence you show while out and about
I must agree with the girls passing is not everything, Confidence is.:2c:
Laura
KateSpade83
11-12-2008, 10:26 AM
For a long time in my cding I alway thought I was a guy in a dress, and looking at my guy face I never thought that shaving, foundation, lipstick, and a great wig can make me so good looking / woman enough to pass 95% of the time. So some of you just gotta work on your transformation.
But some of you do have guy facial features that always will make you look like a guy. I went out in drag yesterday and felt so passable, as the dressing room attendent mam'd me. But at the cashier, and little girl was staring at my face and I was thinking - was she seeing man features or as a child, was she "blessed" to read me?
Well, some of you don't pass, and if you go out, just expect to amuse people that your a "pretty guy in a dress." But they'll definitely call you a fag though.
I only go out in drag to shop for womens clothes. To window shop or try things on before I buy them.
tricia_uktv
11-12-2008, 03:56 PM
it's not about passing... it's the Confidence you show while out and about
Totally agree and to get the confidence we need attitude and, ironically, balls
VeronicaMoonlit
11-12-2008, 04:05 PM
Well, some of you don't pass, and if you go out, just expect to amuse people that your a "pretty guy in a dress." But they'll definitely call you a fag though.
You might want to change that "some of you" to "some of us". And personaly, I don't think most people are amused by us, curious yes, amused no. As for definitely using the word "fag", I think not.
<Dr. Evil> "You just don't get it, do you Scott?"</Dr. Evil>
Veronica
Rondelle (Ron) Rogers Jr.
Amy Hepker
11-12-2008, 04:23 PM
I think so, I am out 24/7, I get a few looks and a lot of smiles from other GGs, but how many really know it's hard to say. I really don't care as long as I enjoy myself.
AndiSwitch
11-12-2008, 04:57 PM
when i first ventured out I looked rubbish and felt pretty bad. Vowed I would never do it again. But as I got slightly better at dressinga nd make up and tucking and shaving and stuff, my confidence grew and I now find that most days I get by just fine. I know that nobody is going to mistake me for a beautiful young woman - nobody who has eyes or ears anyway... but it is enough to be accpeted.
Bethany_Anne_Fae
11-12-2008, 11:01 PM
You might want to change that "some of you" to "some of us". Veronica
Rondelle (Ron) Rogers Jr.
Thank you for that, Veronica *hugs*
Zarabeth
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