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Wendy me
12-04-2008, 04:13 AM
how do you think of your self ????.... you know when your here or in your fem mode ..... what pronouns do you like and what pronouns do you take offense to?????...........


please no off topic silly things .... is it "HER" or "HIM"????????????........ how do you see your gender opposite self ????????.......

Nadia-Maria
12-04-2008, 04:21 AM
I would take no offense as being called whatever label anywhere in the TG-TS continuum. I would consider it as an excellent opportunity to explain more accurately who I am, and who we are as a community as well, and would jump into it !

avril findlay
12-04-2008, 04:22 AM
When I'm dressed I like to think of myself as an attractive, well dressed middle aged woman. I like being called "Avril" and I prefer being referred to as "she" and "her".

Phyliss
12-04-2008, 04:28 AM
I don't usually think of myself as either "him or her" but rather "me or I "

Now, when I'm fully "dressed" and out I'd rather be refered to as "she or her" but then, it sometimes happens that I'm "clocked" and all pretense is gone. I don't take offense if I'm refered to as "he" when I present as "she" , at times like that. It just means that I need to do a better job of presenting.

Thinking of myself as she or her or for that matter as he or him seems to me to indicate thinking in the third person. I guess I'm kinda in the middle when thinking or mentioning anything about myself.

Neither her or him but me.

vivianann
12-04-2008, 05:50 AM
I prefer to be called she and her or Vivian, do not like to be called him or he.

Joanne f
12-04-2008, 05:53 AM
It is not a thing that i need to address very often but now you have made me think about it , i now find it hard or unusual to think of my male name in the sense that i have to stop and think for a second if i have to use it or if someone calls it as i prefer to be called and thought of by my wife as Joanne which she will put on cards and things, and sometimes if we are out she will just call me jo for short, so i do have to stop and think now what my male name is .
So i really prefer Joanne , but as to Him or Her or His and Hers , preference i think would be Her or Hers but just see myself as a non descript person .



joanne

tanya1976
12-04-2008, 06:00 AM
how do you think of your self ????.... you know when your here or in your fem mode ..... what pronouns do you like and what pronouns do you take offense to?????...........


please no off topic silly things .... is it "HER" or "HIM"????????????........ how do you see your gender opposite self ????????.......

Well I don't think of myself as 'male' whatever that is, and I don't think I of myself as 'female' either. So I suppose for me, Tanya exists in a genderless netherworld somewhere between the two.
As for pronouns I've not really had much opportunity to be called either or, although on one outing I was called a 'stupid cow' because I wouldn't speak to somebody (deep voice..slight give away :)) I found that quite amusing, although in retrospect maybe I should have been offended...

Raquel June
12-04-2008, 06:21 AM
Well I don't think of myself as 'male' whatever that is, and I don't think I of myself as 'female' either.

I'm kinda the same. I don't feel exactly right with male or female. When I'm femme and someone calls me my boy name, or when I'm with an old friend who calls me my girl name, that's cool because it makes me feel like they're OK with me however.

But obviously most of us would prefer to be called "her" when femme (or really anytime) by someone who isn't a very close friend, because calling us "him" indicates failure to express a feminine side.

I went to a support meeting with some t-girls a couple weeks ago. Afterwards we went to a club with a drag show. There was a guy there who kept trying to talk to me. He wasn't rude or anything. He bought me a couple drinks. Two drunk guys at the bar next to me were trying to hit on me (or so he thought), and he took it upon himself to tell them to shut up. So this guy was being really nice, but the funny thing was he kept calling all of us (four M2F girls) "him." It made him come off as pretty clueless, but at the same time it gave me the impression he was pretty new at picking up trannies. :heehee:

Joan Merrie
12-04-2008, 07:57 AM
deffinitly her. after all I am a girl on the inside, working more and more on the outside, (hormones, better skin care) :hugs:

carolinewalker_2000
12-04-2008, 08:01 AM
When dressed I definitely think of myself as "she" & "her".

khloey
12-04-2008, 08:03 AM
I go by "she" and "her" when dressed.

Sarah...
12-04-2008, 08:14 AM
how do you think of your self ????.... you know when your here or in your fem mode ..... what pronouns do you like and what pronouns do you take offense to?????...........


please no off topic silly things .... is it "HER" or "HIM"????????????........ how do you see your gender opposite self ????????.......

I don't have a gender opposite self. I've been female for years. I just have a plumbing opposite body. The fact that I tried to rationalise myself to being male for years had no impact on my long term sense of self.

So, for me it's Sarah, she or her. Being referred to by my given name or he or him is uncomfortable. But it's not other people's fault that they do that so I answer to those terms. Because I can't yet jettison the old male persona (as seen by others) I also can't refuse to be addressed in those terms.

Sarah...

BeckiB
12-04-2008, 08:48 AM
No problem.

When I'm in male mode it's "him".
When I'm dressed its "her", please.

I once organised a meal for CDs and their partners, and the restaurant owner started calling everyone 'Monsieur'. I explained the above rule to her and said that it would be politer because there were three GGs among us and she might make a mistake. She looked around the room and replied: "O, yes, I see that now. Her, her and her."

But of course, she identified the wrong three!

I agree with Katie and like she noted, sometimes you have to say something to people when they refer to you as he or him when dressed. I think most of the time it is done innocently and they are not sure how to refer to us.

Funny she picked the wrong three...imagine how the would have felt!

MAJESTYK
12-04-2008, 09:35 AM
In either 'mode' of dress I think of myself as Me or I. Dressed either way, I dont see one or the other, I see both. I prefer to be adressed by whatever I may be presenting at the time though, it avoids confusion.

Daintre
12-04-2008, 09:37 AM
I have spent most of my life being "Him" playing a role that I did not like at all. When I am here, I am who I really am..."Her"

I am very comfortable here, my friends call me Jenni, gosh that makes me feel good.

jamie55
12-04-2008, 10:19 AM
Hi Wendy: I hesitated to respond to this because I'm clearly in the minority. I simply see myself as a "guy in a dress" and most times you'll find me in a skirt, hose, and heels and a workshirt or t-shirt. I wear a baseball hat most of the time that I'm awake. I've seen the label gender-bender but I thought the other day that a more appropriate label would be gender-blender. Although I do go out of the house occasionally I have had very little personal contact with the general public but I suppose I'd be o.k. with whatever they chose to address me by after all I'm a combination of sorts.

Veronica27
12-04-2008, 11:42 AM
As a male, who prefers being male, (but one who likes to wear dresses and things) I feel very strange being referred to as her or she. As most of my life was very closeted, the idea of being referred to in the female never arose, and it is now very difficult to change in my senior years. My wife, who is quite accepting, never calls me Veronica, but recognizes when others do. I even have trouble referring to others as she or her, when I am aware that they are crossdressers, but I try to make the attempt and can usually use their femme name as that is how we are introduced. I even have difficulty using Gal, Sister and so on, on the internet.

But as a Canadian, in the metric north, I also have trouble thinking in meters, celcius and litres and prefer good old feet, fahrenheit and gallons.

Sharon
12-04-2008, 12:20 PM
As a "trans," I only consider myself a "her" or "she" or what have you and fully expect to be spoken to and treated as such.

BlUeDrAgOn
12-04-2008, 12:25 PM
Since I only crossdress for myself (I hope this changes in the future), I don't have the need to be addressed as a 'him' or a 'her'. I didn't even pick a feminine name for myself yet.

anouk
12-04-2008, 12:27 PM
In my public life I act like a man, although no very macho way. So, even if I don't regard my inner identity totally male, I cannot expect anyting else than "he". When dressed it's definitely "she".

Annette_boy
12-04-2008, 12:35 PM
When Dressed which is 99% of time I perfer heh or she or if more formal Miss or Mam .If I am casual and in jeans and a ambiguious top I am not offended by the male terms. I can understand that some folks are confused and can tell when it is an honest mistake or delibertly nasty so far 99.9% honest mistake the few times it has happened
Annette

KarenS
12-04-2008, 12:50 PM
Since I have not been out of the closet publicly, I can't honestly say I have thought about it. But, I think if I an dressed as a woman, I would like to be refered to by the gender terms typically used for women. I can tell you that when I dress, most of the time I see myself as a 'guy in women's'.

KarenS

KarenS
12-04-2008, 12:51 PM
Annette,

I noticed your signature sub-line ""It takes more courage for a man to appear in public wearing a dress than to charge into battle".

I couldn't agree more.

KarenS

trisha59
12-04-2008, 12:58 PM
Being firmly in the closet, I never had a need to use a specific pronoun. Now that I found this site it has be nice to hear my female name being used in postings , etc. So carrying that logic through i guess that I would prefer to be called she or by Trisha if I was out

Sam-antha
12-04-2008, 03:27 PM
I will probably come back and edit this one which is not as straightforward as it seems at first blush.

With this forum on display I interact as "She".
Dressed and outside, the "me" is definitely "She".
Dressed and inside the house I am not too sure.

In the male mode the "me" is mostly (but certainly not all), "he"

~Samm

az_azeel
12-04-2008, 03:32 PM
Having been a crossdresser since the age of five i see myself simply as a man that likes to wear clothing of the opposite sex. .. I have never felt or wanted to be a woman or even attempt to look like one... would never pass anyway :heehee: That's why my photos were posted with my head missing.. I took the name Az_azeel (although originally i was known as the fallen angel) as it is sort of gender neutral... I have also been called the best barmaid on the forum... so I guess at least when i'm on the forum.. i'm a she but, either way he or she to me it does not matter....

Lora Olivia
12-04-2008, 03:39 PM
She, her or Lora when enfemme Thanks

MichelleOBrien
12-04-2008, 04:01 PM
For me, I see myself as a her at all times except work. Then I see myself as a FtM... strange that...

jessielee
12-04-2008, 06:04 PM
think of myself exclusvely as she and her. yet, considering i perceive myself as having been genetically, externally disguised as a male in the womb, i answer to "sir" and "him" and "he" with an inner wink that it's working, i'm blending in and they don't suspect!
blowing my cover
jessie

Marjory
12-04-2008, 06:34 PM
I prefer CD or TG and I'll even go TS but I really hate TV.

Emma26
12-04-2008, 07:01 PM
I am a female mentally, so I prefer to be referred to as a female by pronouns.

docrobbysherry
12-04-2008, 07:25 PM
I see Sherry as sort of an imaginary, or fantasy, playmate! I ALWAYS refer to her as "her". Because I think of her like a completely different person than I!:eek:

Even after a year here, I'm ocassionally struck by the oddity of others refering to me, and me refering to them as "her"! Mostly, I'm pretty used to it, tho!:)

TGMarla
12-04-2008, 07:46 PM
When I'm dressed, and when I'm here, it's "she" and "her". At all other times, I go with the guy terms.

Crystal Galadriel
12-04-2008, 09:21 PM
I've never thought of myself in the female terms before, but if I were ever to go out presenting as female, I'd definitely prefer "she" or "her" to "he" and "him" in that case. Despite having a feminine side, I can't seem to actually think of myself as female. Female pronouns are welcome on here, though, as it's only ever Crystal posting.

I did get an e-mail in my guy-inbox today labeled "Crystal" and it scared the crap out of me. I thought someone had found me out! Then I realized that it was from some GG named Crystal, sending an e-mail via the feedback form on the website I manage. I laughed out loud at myself.

Teri Jean
12-04-2008, 09:40 PM
Dressed or not when I am refering to a sister I have met or corresponded with on this site it is by her name and do not call this or that person him or he. It is respect for the other person and as far as when I dressed or in my male mode I think of myself as myself, T****/Keli. I have come to think more as a woman than a man but when it is necessary the male side will come out. It's more comfortable to stay in a female mode. Does that sound clear? Keli

Ashlie Marie
12-04-2008, 10:17 PM
I feel that since CDing is my hobby the pronouns are not really important. However when I hear someone call me Miss when I am not trying does make me feel really good for some reason. I also noticed that people who get to know me and finally READ ME will call me Ashlie constasntly as to think I like hearing my name. and to be honest it is cool hear. but my wife and bestfriend still call me jeffie lol unless we are in a busy public place. since I have to be able to use the ladies restrooms and stuff like at the malls and stuff.. but it cool to hear she and her.. I agree with you all

Hugs

vikki2020
12-05-2008, 12:01 AM
When dressed or here, definitely in full girl mode.If I know I'm going to be able to dress, I try to get in my fem frame of mind a few days beforehand.

suchacutie
12-05-2008, 12:21 AM
Tina is always referred to as "her" or "she". I can't imagine it any other way :)

tina

Sophie_C
12-05-2008, 01:54 AM
how do you think of your self ????.... you know when your here or in your fem mode ..... what pronouns do you like and what pronouns do you take offense to?????...........


please no off topic silly things .... is it "HER" or "HIM"????????????........ how do you see your gender opposite self ????????.......

I see gender as a continuum between feminine and masculine and I simply lean very very heavily towards the feminine side. Whatever pronouns I use are solely for the purpose for dealing with society's lack of ability to handle anything that is on either extreme of that continuum.

Is that simple enough?

sometimes_miss
12-05-2008, 03:52 AM
I had one lesbian friend, who of course told her gf about me (with my blessing, as she assured me it would be alright). They would refer to me as she or her when we were alone at home, but he or him when going out. They did it in such a natural way, kind of like it was natural to flip back and forth so easily. I notice one gay male friend does the same with his bf. It doesn't bother me to be referred to either way, because I've been a male so long it just feels normal to be referred to as a he, but it's also nice when in private someone acknowledges the female side of me too.

lauraabdl
12-05-2008, 11:15 AM
:heehee:
I have spent most of my life being "Him" playing a role that I did not like at all. When I am here, I am who I really am..."Her"

I am very comfortable here, my friends call me Jenni, gosh that makes me feel good.

Jenni Y I can't agree more with you, it is a real pleasure to be myself here. I feel like just one of the girls without all of the hangup of society.
Laura

Clara
12-05-2008, 11:57 AM
When I'm dressed I'm Clara, that is she. However, for my wife I'm still he. She accepts my dressing but she sees me as a guy dressed in woman's clothes. Maybe in future she accepts Clara as her. I'm very happy I can dress at home, though.

DinaMature
12-06-2008, 05:02 AM
and tend to refer to my other half as if they were a seperate entity...

My girl Dina

or

"the man of the house"

--- is the best I've come up with so far.

Adrienne Heels
12-06-2008, 01:59 PM
When dressed, it is she, her or Karyn

Shannen
12-06-2008, 02:26 PM
is it "HER" or "HIM"?

HER

Isn't that the proper way to address a feminine human being?

emmicd
12-06-2008, 05:41 PM
I am very comfortable now with knowing I am a M-F crossdresser. It took a long time to get there. I am a male by birth and I am happy with that as I am a loving and caring husband and father. I also know I love to wear womens dresses and under garments and I do feel very comfortable in such clothes but it is always in secret. I do feel like a girl when dressed and even convince myself that I am one. The feeling is fleeting as it goes away when the dress comes off and I go back to male mode.

Kind of makes sense to me!

emmi

Rochelle Exploration
12-06-2008, 06:09 PM
I prefer her or she when dressed. I also find myself only particpating on these forums when dressed, so it carries over and I refer to myself in the feminine and think of myself as just one of the girls when here.

StaceyJane
12-06-2008, 06:11 PM
She when dressed, he only as a last resort.

carolinoakland
12-06-2008, 06:43 PM
I agree with Katie and like she noted, sometimes you have to say something to people when they refer to you as he or him when dressed. I think most of the time it is done innocently and they are not sure how to refer to us.

Funny she picked the wrong three...imagine how the would have felt!

I was in the supermarket shopping and got 'Maam'ed for the first time, felt great. I find that even in boi or andro mode I get a little frustrated with being sir'ed and dude'ed. Guess I better go full time sooner than later. Carol

Carole Anne Allen
12-06-2008, 07:04 PM
:ukflag: I Always think of myself as being feminine, even when not dressed En Femme. When thinking to myself I think of myself as I or me, but, when others are talking to me I like to be called Carole, and when they are talking about me I prefer to be refered to as she or her- or as Carole. When dressed I like to think of myself as being a woman- not a man wearing a skirt or dress- and like to be treated as a woman. It's lovely to overhear somebody talking about me and hear them refer to me as Carole, she or her. If I've gone to so much time & trouble to look like a woman, and feel like a woman, then I like to be thought of as a woman- and treated as a lady. I would not like to be refered to as he or him. When reading the various posts by the sisters on this site, I always imagine them as being women, and would like to be thought of the same way. I'm not two different people, one male & one female, I'm just Carole, a woman- if not in body then in spirit! The masculine persona is just a facade- a disguise. :battingeyelashes:

Joy Carter
12-06-2008, 07:10 PM
Don't care actually. I've had a few call me a male, using a noun of any form, usually in an exaggerated tone. I show em a smile and sometimes a wave.

Samantha B L
12-06-2008, 07:45 PM
To everybody on this forum and to ALL the LGBT and TG/TS/CD freinds I've ever had I've always been Samantha and "She". this gives me great pleasure. And I really don't know why. It just does. I'm not Transexual and I suppose that when the chips fly I'm a "he" in most of my mental reflexes and feelings. but I have a deep fascination and interest in all things feminine and I guess it all must have gotten started really big when I was 8 or 9.

Schatten Lupus
12-06-2008, 08:34 PM
Definitly by female nouns. Allthough I'm ways off from getting that.

britneylove
12-06-2008, 08:37 PM
USE TO GO BY SAMANATHA BUT GOT OLD BEING CALLED SAM ALL THE TIME:doh::doh::doh:

Nicki B
12-06-2008, 09:11 PM
how do you think of your self ????.... you know when your here or in your fem mode .....

I think of myself as simply me - partly male, partly female, all the time?


I see Sherry as sort of an imaginary, or fantasy, playmate! I ALWAYS refer to her as "her". Because I think of her like a completely different person than I!:eek:

Even after a year here, I'm ocassionally struck by the oddity of others refering to me, and me refering to them as "her"! Mostly, I'm pretty used to it, tho!:)

So, who posted that, then? :strugglin

Carin
12-06-2008, 09:47 PM
I don't mind being referenced by either male or female terms. I am both, dressed or not.

A few times people had stumbled. "Yes sir, I mean Ma'am I mean.. ah" . I do feel some empathy for them. It is confusing. My facial features suggest male, even if my attire is feminine, and they are just responding to instinctual cues before stumbling over political correctness. I usually respond with "It's OK, I respond to both."

Still, I do appreciate people who do go the effort of using Ma'am. You can tell that it is a conscious expression, but it is a sign of respect.

I am feminine of mind. I would have no problem being referenced in the feminine all the time.

Ballerina
12-07-2008, 03:27 AM
I don't mind either form. I used to kind of shy away from "her" or "she", but I have thought it through and feel it to be something natural to be called on by either side.

Jenna1561
12-07-2008, 03:47 AM
I see myself as female all the time and prefer for people to use Jenna, she, and her. I am not transitioning at work yet, so everyone there still knows me as Jake, he, and him. But new people often see me as a woman and use female pronouns until someone else corrects them. But I enjoy it when it happens and I NEVER correct them

Brenda Locke
12-07-2008, 06:30 PM
Whenever I am dressed, either with or without make-up, I think of myself as she or her

Brenda.

Julogden
12-07-2008, 06:40 PM
If I'm out and about, I'm in full femme mode, full makeup, wig, jewelry and distinctly feminine clothing, so I prefer to be addressed and referred to with feminine pronouns. Depending on the situation, or when dressed as a man, masculine pronouns are usually tolerable, but I hate it if someone refers to me or another TG person as "it", that's beyond rude, and is, in my opinion, an intentional insult.

Carol

Hoshi
12-07-2008, 07:53 PM
There is only one answer where I am concerned, I am a post op M to F transsexual.:heehee:

obsessedwithpantyhose
12-07-2008, 08:04 PM
im a human.........

Sammy777
12-08-2008, 05:05 AM
As I am still in the closet I have only limited experience with this part but have other experiences in being a guy.

My first time dressed in front of anybody was this Halloween.

Well my sister, maybe a little to quickly [Hmm?] blurred out a girls name for me. I really didn't care for the name but it was nice to hear.

While out that night I overheard myself being referred to as a girl at least twice & again when leaving.
It was nice to hear. Thank you dim bar lights & alcohol.

On the flip side of this, trying to keep track can be a real pain sometimes.
My male name is to formal & I have always used a shortened form of it, & a little while back I decided to "change" it.
Figure Robert & using Bob, then changing to Rob.

So all my family & older friends still call me Bob.
Anybody new I meet I use Rob.
All family & some other older friends call me Bob.
Now some old friends & all new ones call me Rob.

It can get rather confusing when the old & new meet & I have one person calling me Bob & someone next to them calling me Rob.
Then the new ones saying, I though your name was Rob.

Meanwhile my name is neither Rob or Bob its Robert.lol

And my point was? well I forget, lol but anyway,

When I'm in guy mode I think of "her" sort of in the third person.
Like that is Samantha's even though I now I'm talking about myself.
I guess I am sort of preparing myself for all the questions about her I will have to answer when I come out.

I guess once I am out I would very much like to be called Samantha or Her, ect. when dressed.

But I look at "her/Sam's" stuff as my own, like, Is all of my stuff put away, Not is Sam's stuff put away.

It will be interesting to see out of the 5 people I plan on telling which ones [hopefully all will be accepting] will more refer to me when dressed as Sam or Samantha?
I happen to like either one & do not think that any of them using Sam instead of Samantha would be an attempt to "guy" me up, lol.

A good GG friend of mine goes by Moe, even by her parents.
That has made for some very funny looks from people while talking on the phone with her, lol.

Sorry for the lonnnnngggggg post, just feeling chatty tonight.