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michelle2b
12-07-2008, 10:47 PM
After taking spironolactone, I hate my own smell.

We all have body odor, after a few hours. Even if we cannot smell it, others can. Even if other humans cannot smell it, other creatures (eg. dogs) can.

Just before and around puberty, I had a certain smell that I did not like one bit. After age 16 or 17 (until I took spiro in my late 20s), I did not hate my own smell. In fact, I did not even smell (according to me and according to other people also). I was sort of odorless, except when I ate spicy Chinese or Indian food. Ever since I started on spiro, I smell like I used to just before and around puberty. I hate my own smell now.

I do not know if -
1. It is the smell of spiro itself (just as when I eat spicy Chinese or Indian food).
2. It is my body producing (or having in excess) a kind of chemical that I used to have during puberty.
3. It is just my heightened sense of smell as a side effect of reduced testosterone levels.
4. It is something else or a combination of the above.

Nobody else has mentioned anything to me, perhaps out of politeness, and I am sort of embarrassed to ask people to smell me.

Have you had a similar experience with spiro and body odor?

M2

michelle2b
12-09-2008, 04:15 AM
Thanks for the 60 odd views and for the one very rude personal message in reply to his genuine question I had.

I should feel so much at home here! Right?

Well, I figured it out the reason for the smell, and I am posting here for the benefit of anyone else who has this genuine question ever and so you do not get treated the same way as I did -
It is the smell of spironolactone.

My doc confirmed that everyone taking spiro has this smell, which is actually very subtle. She took me to her research office at the university hospital this evening and she showed me that I have a very strong sense of smell, which made me notice the change in smell from not taking spiro to taking spiro.

Hope this helps!

PortiaHoney
12-09-2008, 04:22 AM
I would like to appologise for whover wrote the rude PM. Obviously, some are a little "coarser" than others.

I thought you had a genuine question that deserved a genuine response, unfortunately I didn't have the answer, so obviously, I didn't reply.

However, if there are rude people, then they should get the response they deserve and be ignored. I do realise the contradiction here, but maybe some of the other girls here have experienced the same issue. Perhaps you could notify one of the moderators of your experience.

Glad you found your answer.

:hugs:Portia

Anna the Dub
12-09-2008, 05:05 AM
If you get abuse, report them. We are all in the same boat here, and there is no need for so called 'smart' answers.

As to your question, I am afraid I can't answer either. But medications are known to change body odours. When I was on warfarin to thin my blood after a clot some years back, the odour of my urine was pungent and vile. I had been warned by the doctors of this, but was still taken aback by it. As regards your problem, most people probably don't notice. You do, of course, as it's your body and, as you said, you have a very sensitive sense of smell.

helenr
12-09-2008, 11:29 PM
Everyone responds differently, I suppose. I notice that with spiro the 'male smell' is largely gone. I rarely use underarm deoderant-I don't get the male musk smell as I formerly did. I don't have the keenest sense of smell so don't know much about the spiro smell. best, helen

Ibuki_Warpetal
12-09-2008, 11:45 PM
Interesting. How high is your dose?

michelle2b
12-13-2008, 02:44 AM
Thanks for your support, Anna and Portia

helenr
12-13-2008, 01:30 PM
Hi, I see a question from Ibuki-if it is for me, the 200 mg of spiro really seemed to do many things including eliminating the male odor as might be around chest hair. I have very little now-the spiro really made it sparse. But, alas, I now have skin cancer that, I believe from my own gut feeling and so much internet reading I am bleary eyed, is from essentially killing my testosterone-which does provide body defenses via white blood cells. I am on 50 mg now,and will stop a few days before my surgery on my upper eyelid-horrible place to have a malignancy- and want to resume 100 mg. It is very sad that , at least for me, the dreaded T is critical to health. I am sorry if this 'potential risk' alarms others, but this is what happened to me. best wishes to all, helen--PS--more male body odor now without the 200 mg, but not like before.

Ibuki_Warpetal
12-13-2008, 05:48 PM
Sorry I should have been more clear. I was wondering how high of a dose one needs to be one to actually sense an odor generated from the medication.
Helenr I read about your situation in another thread and am sorry to hear of your condition. I hope you come out of it alright.

michelle2b
12-13-2008, 09:42 PM
I do not know what the threshold for detecting the smell is. Each person is different. I have too much of a strong sense of smell (and of hearing) and I have always had that.

Melissa A.
12-16-2008, 10:36 AM
michelle, I don't get here as often as I'd like, and this is the first time I've seen your question. I hope you reported the person who was rude to you. There isnt any place for that here.

I havent noticed any odor at all from spiro use, but it could be I'm simply not noticing it. I also apply body mist after showering every day. Not to hide anything, I've never really had a bad B.O. problem, even as a guy, but just because I really like it. It seems to last all day, as I have been told by people, "you smell nice", even hours later. there are mists that are fairly gender nuetral, as well. maybe you could try that.

Hugs,

Melissa:)

michelle2b
12-17-2008, 03:52 AM
I was not asking for help with getting over any BO "issues". I am old enough to know how to hide any BO using man-made products. So that is not the topic of my discussion.

I was smelling something which was not there before and which I personally do not like. I only wanted to know if anyone else had noticed the same thing.

I found out the reason for it - the smell of spiro and my own strong sense of smell.

In reality, everyone who uses spiro has the smell. I notice that on others who are on spiro. Deodrant used in your armpits along does not "prevent" the smell. All of your sweat glands all over your body emanate the smell. So unless you find a method to shut down all your sweat glands, you will give out that smell. Of course, not everyone will notice it on you. You can only hide it using a perfume (or deodrant with perfume, or whatever else) that has a similar molecular structure but having a positive reaction in human senses.

Everything you eat which has a smell will eventually show up as your smell. Spiro is no exception. I am strongly sensitive to the smell of spiro, ie. I can detect the smell easily. Problem solved. Period. Thanks for your input.

Melissa A.
12-17-2008, 10:50 AM
If you read carefully, or even casually, it's obvious that the control of normal body odor was not the focus of my post as well, or anywhere near it. I was just trying to help a bit. I dont come here alot, but perhaps there is a reason why 60 people chose not to answer your original question. Perhaps they know something I didn't. The insincere thank you at the end notwithstanding, "I'm old enough to know......", plus the tone of the response as a whole, was unnecessary and fairly mean, leaving one to wonder why they even tried to be nice. Guess it's true sometimes, No good deed goes unpunished. I won't be turning blue waiting for an apology. (In 4+ years, I've NEVER had to write anything even close to this. sheesh...)

Hugs,

Melissa :)

michelle2b
12-19-2008, 05:56 PM
If you read carefully, or even casually, it's obvious that the control of normal body odor was not the focus of my post as well, or anywhere near it.

Really? Then what was the following about?



I also apply body mist after showering every day. Not to hide anything, I've never really had a bad B.O. problem, even as a guy, but just because I really like it. It seems to last all day, as I have been told by people, "you smell nice", even hours later. there are mists that are fairly gender nuetral, as well. maybe you could try that.

How is this message from you not about controlling BO?

Your message was very condescending and insensitive. I had already indicated above that my original question (out of scientific curiosity) has been resolved. Your response and reference to BO was totally unwarranted. And your message parallels in part the rule personal message I received from someone else.

If standing up for myself from ridicule is an offense, then I am glad to commit this offense. I suggest that you take the sensitivities of other people in mind before getting too affected by the underlying sincerity of a thank you note.

Melissa A.
12-20-2008, 07:16 AM
I was hardly ridiculing you, michelle. Or being condescending. Or insensitive. How you could get that out of it is pretty puzzling. The reference to body odor was simply an aside, and was reffering to me, not you at all. I answered your question about whether I've noticed anything about the spiro use, and explained that I use body mists, and why, and why I don't. In answer to your last question, THAT'S how it was not about the control of regular body odor. It's pretty obvious, and all right there in simple english. "Maybe you could try that", just meant exactly that, as in maybe it'll help , if you dont like the smell of the spiro. If I wanted to be a jerk, I could do it. The fact is, I have never once, in all my time coming here, engaged in ridicule or anything like it. And I was somewhat floored by the tone of your response. I was trying to be helpful, not mean in any way. You misunderstood me. Why don't we bring this to an end since it's not what anyone wants to read? I sure dont feel like wasting everyone's time defending myself, having done nothing to deserve it. Unfortunately, I feel like I have to now. I've been a member here over 4 years, and while I dont show up like I used to, I do know I used to be known, when I was a regular visitor, as a kind person who would never go out of her way to ridicule, or hurt anyone. So now it's ridiculously necessary for me to make sure that's understood. Private message me if you still have a problem, please. take care.

I sincerely apologise to all of the rest of you. I never mean to be so self-indulgent, or waste other's time on things like this. I'm sorry.

Hugs,

Melissa:)

Joann Smith
12-28-2008, 01:11 AM
After taking spiro I have noticed that my sense of smell has gotten super sensitive...
And..this may sound stupid but the smell of pregnant women drives me nuts ...

Joann