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battybattybats
12-18-2008, 09:31 AM
Ok so theres some guys i know. Two are brothers.

When I met them via a mutual friend to join in a weekly roleplaying game (like dungeons and dragons) they were involved in adiscussion about how disturbing effeminate male anime characters were.

I joined in the conversation, mentioning that one of my favourite characters was Yellow from Mospeada (Yellow Dancer in Robotech New Generation).

Later discussing some of this with the mutual friend they mentioned that the two were strongly homophobic, not in a hate way but a strong discomfort and aversion one.

1 year later and one knocked on my door today. I answered it wearing red glittery lipgloss. He was not in the slightest disconcerted.

How'd this happen?
Well when they first met me I had three days growth of beard stubble but my long hair and long black-painted nails.

The character I played is masculine, a Peter Cushing Hammer Horror films inspired one.

Slowly I increased the diversity of feminine expression. Silver nails, purple, dark blood red.

We started a semi-regular second game alongside the first that I was running set in the modern world (Conspiracy X) and I introduced two long-running NPCs, one of whom is a transexual medium. They were uncomfortable with the character at first but after some months of weekly gaming were relating better with her than the officious and serious GG DEA agent.

And slowly I increased the goth androgyny, eyeliner, eyshadow, black and then purple lipstick.

I've dropped comments about corsetry, shown the other brother the pics I took of the outfit I wore out for halloween and mentioned the night to them both.

I've not 'come out' officially yet but the surprise would be if the had any doubts left.

But I think it's the gradual adjustment that is the key to their acceptance, so I keep it gradual.

Now I don't know if he noticed I had a padded bra on under my fluffly lack robe I was wearing when he knocked unexpectedly though he might have. I don't know if he got a glimpse of the pale pink robe i had on under the fluffy one. Or whether he glanced down to see my painted toenails.

But the red shiny glittery lipgloss was obvious.

And he said as he came, in so casually I hardly noticed:
"You look good."
I said "Thanks" and then the conversation went comfortably straight into finding time before people head off on holidays for a game this week. The full impact of the comment didn't hit me till after he'd left.

12 months and thats the result with two 'strongly homophobic' people.

MarciManseau
12-18-2008, 09:41 AM
"Me thinks he doth protest too much."

Sometimes a blatant aversions to something others might expect you to react negatively to are just a way to make sure no one notices how much you actually like it.

Maybe next time you should suggest he add a small femme touch or a lil Goth to his online personna, just to see what happens.


Hugs, Marci :hugs:

Angie G
12-18-2008, 09:55 AM
So do they still think your just roleplaying.:hugs:
Angie

battybattybats
12-18-2008, 10:03 AM
"Me thinks he doth protest too much."

Sometimes a blatant aversions to something others might expect you to react negatively to are just a way to make sure no one notices how much you actually like it.

Maybe next time you should suggest he add a small femme touch or a lil Goth to his online personna, just to see what happens.


Hugs, Marci :hugs:

Anythings possible! Though I should add this is face-to-face roleplaying gaming not online mmporg or text stuff. We're talking old-school polyhedral dice etc!

So while playing I'm sitting there in my unisex (womens) black velvet 'pirate' shirt, purple lipstick and eye makeup as we play for hours. Even touching up my lipstick using a small compact mirror after scarfing most of a box of choc-chip cookies!

Oh yeah, and speaking of video gaming when they updated their Xbox so it now has 3d avatars for profiles when we occassionally play halo multiplayer, I recently made a vampire-chick in a skirt that resembles me en femme for my avatar.

As I said, there's no way they don't know already. But by making it gradual befor their eyes i think it helps them adjust more easilly, more comfortably.

battybattybats
12-19-2008, 11:48 AM
I haven't read his books though I've watched a few tv programs on him.

Had the roleplaying game again today, went with black lipstick to match my nails but I carried my gaming stuff in my large leather womens shoulderbag from my last pic thread in the gallery section.

And another friend who dropped by while we were playing said I was looked good :) His girlfriend nodded her agreement :D

justmetoo
12-19-2008, 11:24 PM
Good work, Batty!
And you do look good. :lol:

KellyCD
12-20-2008, 10:50 AM
I once met a "strongly homophobic" man before dressed as Kelly. He seemed pretty scared at first until we got talking about engines. I was still in total fem mode so I wasn't talking "like a guy" so much but, just being very knowledgeable and I think once he figured out that I wasn't gonna try and flirt with him he calmed down.

obsessedwithpantyhose
12-20-2008, 11:09 AM
Kelly,,ill talk engines with you while you flirt with me :D

Batts,,sometimes people will share the same view while in a group,,,even tho they may NOT agree with whats being said... :2c:

JoAnne Wheeler
12-29-2008, 04:05 PM
Fairy tales can come true - it can happen to you . . . .

Love,

JoAnne Wheeler