View Full Version : when young, were you accepted by your peers?
helenr
01-03-2009, 12:12 PM
Maybe not the greatest of titles,but I am meaning-when you were a little boy, were your popular with other little boys-or sort of an outcast?
I am not sure if my attraction to females and feminine clothing at such an early age wasn't equally prompted by rejection by my 'peer group' boy crowd. You understand what I mean, when in 2nd, 3rd grade--the boys and girls rarely mix and mingle except when required in a classroom.
I wasn't popular, was bullied, selected last for the dreaded 'pick your team' ,etc and I wonder if this lack of acceptance by boys wasn't as much a factor in 'going femme' as being naturally attracted to all that feminine. How about you?
MomofCD
01-03-2009, 12:24 PM
Speaking for my 18 year old son, he wasn't popular with the boys. He was very clumsy in sports. In fact, from kindergarten on he always played with a a girl or two at recess and tended to sit with a girl or two at lunch. He always had a crush on some little girl. He is in his senior year of high school and has only girl friends and still sits with a girl at lunch. From what I know, the girls are the only ones who he has told about his crossdressing and I believe they are fairly supportive. Although, he last girlfriend started off accepting and seems to get scared off. I hope it gets easier for him.
Bootsiegalore
01-03-2009, 12:48 PM
I never fit in with the norm either. (picked last for sports, bullied and beaten on, etc...) I was sort of an out cast in grammar school. In high school I had more friends that were girls than boys. I sat with a group of girls at lunch and also for study hall.
Tara
Jess_cd32
01-03-2009, 12:55 PM
After night after late night of parents fighting when I was in those grades because Pop was intoxicated AGAIN I was not only overtired in school but daydreamed most of the time looking out the window, probably about having a peaceful life.
On playground time,lol I kinda just kept to myself those times and didn't want much to do with the other kids, remembering back I was miserable and I intentionally outcast myself. Some kids picked on me for awhile till I finally knocked the worst one on his a** but good, that stopped that.
I did eventually make some close guy friends that also seemed to have disruptive home lives, guess birds of the same feather flock together even at that early age. By 3rd-4th grade I was more outgoing, my friend and I just loved the girls by then and we'd tease them alot till they chased us around,lol
Our gym teacher asked us what cologne we wore watching us with 10 girls chasing us around, lol
I don't feel my cd-ing really had anything to do with any of this, being outcast for a time etc... ,even had things been totally normal growing up I believe I'd still be a cd. I've concluded personally that were born this way, at least I was.
For those that were picked on take some solice in that in high school my friends and I put plenty of bullies in their place, and deservedly so, like they say paybacks are a bitch:thumbsup:
jennifer41356
01-03-2009, 01:00 PM
Maybe not the greatest of titles,but I am meaning-when you were a little boy, were your popular with other little boys-or sort of an outcast?
I am not sure if my attraction to females and feminine clothing at such an early age wasn't equally prompted by rejection by my 'peer group' boy crowd. You understand what I mean, when in 2nd, 3rd grade--the boys and girls rarely mix and mingle except when required in a classroom.
I wasn't popular, was bullied, selected last for the dreaded 'pick your team' ,etc and I wonder if this lack of acceptance by boys wasn't as much a factor in 'going femme' as being naturally attracted to all that feminine. How about you?
no , I had my mix of friends and I enjoyed playing sports and was pretty good, but I also liked playing dress ups and stuff like that when i was younger, maybe it was because I had some sisters:D
JoAnne Wheeler
01-03-2009, 02:50 PM
I'm not sure that I had any "peers" because my "peers"ould be other kids who dreamed about CDing. That said, I was the last kid to get chosen when we would choose up sides. I really enjoyed spending time with the girls. Also, I never felt like I could or even wanted to take a shower in front of the other guys in the locker room. I think this significant of something - I'm just not sure what.
Love,
JoAnne Wheeler
Nadia-Maria
01-03-2009, 02:53 PM
I was not at all popular with my peers and had only one good friend. I was sort of an alien. But I was not bullied either, even being the youngest and shortest, because I was kind of "protected" by the teachers for being a child early.
Elizebeth
01-03-2009, 03:28 PM
Never I a lot of close friends, but of on outcast. I have always have had trouble conecting with people.
Kate Simmons
01-03-2009, 03:36 PM
Hell no. The neighborhood guys were a bunch of budding jocks and I wanted nothing to do with those morons. I was kind of a loner but was a half decent tomboy in my own right.:)
MsSamanthaErica
01-03-2009, 03:46 PM
I was a bit of a loner in school, but I had a lot more female friends than male. I wasn't into sports either and often went the more sedentary life over the active one. I got picked on a lot in school, but more so in the young grades. Once I got older, thanks to be being taller than most for my age, I got passed over being picked on. But still I had more female friends, was not really sure why until later.
Still, it wasn't until I was in High School that I finally started to experiment with cross-dressing. Like most, I thought something was wrong with me, but I realize now that there isn't. I'm just *different* and that makes me part of who I really am. More sensitive, more understanding and a heckuva lot better shopper!! :)
Now I have male and female friends, but I get along, it seems, with women more easily. Which is fine with me, since I like to imagine that I am wearing what they are wearing, pretty much no matter what it is!
Still sometimes I wonder why it is that I was 'picked' out for this life, but I know there's no really good answer, so I just get dressed since it makes me happy deep down and because I can.
Still my feminine wardrobe is overtaking the male one, and there seems to be no end in sight!!
~Samantha
sherib
01-03-2009, 03:47 PM
I never had a problem with my peers. They came and got me when they wanted to play ball or anything. The only problem I had was I had a secret that I wouldn't dare tell anybody. I wanted to be a girl
Carole Cross
01-03-2009, 03:54 PM
I have never had more than a few friends, always a bit of a loner. At school I was always picked last when choosing teams, I never really played most sports outside of school. I was also bullied at school and at age 11 I went to an all boys school which at times was sheer hell. :sad:
Rachel B
01-03-2009, 04:18 PM
I believe there is a direct link between "our youth" and what we do as adults. I dont believe that we dress because of it though!
You'd probably find as many people who dont dress but fit the profile as you would who do.
CD'ers are always looking for a reason as to why we do what we do (I know this only too well!). Science has uncovered a genetic marker which may offer the explanation, but I guess for many the search will continue.
Karren H
01-03-2009, 04:29 PM
Yeah!! I was one of the boys yet I also hung around with a group of neighborhood girls... I could multi-task even way back then!! Hahaha
Tricia Lee
01-03-2009, 04:35 PM
I didn't have any of the problems that others seemed to have had. I was athletic and relatively popular, and did well in most sports. I probably didn't fit in well in the most hard-core jock situations, but I had jocks who were friends, and others who were enemies.
I also didn't gravitate toward friendships with girls. My problem was that I put them on such a pedestal that I had trouble relating to them. I was very shy and awkward toward them. It wasn't that I was unable to attract female attention, I just couldn't seem to do anything about it. The biggest effect that had while growing up is that I ended up dating a lot of girls who were more forward, maybe even "easy". For the most part they weren't the girls I was most attracted to - just the easiest to get along with.
The cross dressing was always a secondary interest that I had. It didn't seem to affect most things I did, but I do wonder how much having it as a secret hindered my relationships. I think it did have a significant affect.
Things didn't really click for me until I came to accept the cross dressing. I realized it a) wasnt' something I was going to grow out of, and b) wasn't something that I was ashamed of. I'm not open with my crossdressing, but I don't let myself feel bad about it either.
Michelle8
01-03-2009, 05:07 PM
I was always the one organizing the sports games in my
neighborhood.And i had plenty of friends.I Don't know why
I CD.It just felt right.
Toni_Lynn
01-03-2009, 05:12 PM
I wasn't accepted at all and kept to myself. From taunts of having cooties in primary school to being called fatty fag in junior and senior high school it ws a bit of a hell. Yep --- called last for teams in gym class, sat alone at lunch, walked around by myself at recess. The flames were intensified at home by my mother harping in me for being a loner! The only ones at school that seemed to not hurt me were the nuns. The sisters always gave me holy cards and told me about the saints. They always told me I should grow up to be a priest.
That hell was only escaped from when I became a teen, for it was there, I'd go into my secret stash tucked inside the box springs of my bed, pull on my training bra and panties, and if mum and dad weren't there, a dress, and then get out my copies of 16 and Tiger Beat magazines and listen to my records, get out the Sears, Penneys, or Wards catalogs and dream -- or -- and this is odd I guess -- read the Reader's Digest or books about old time radio (people like Jack Benny and Fred Allen - mind you this was the 1970s and these folks were in the 40s) -- still do this last bit -- in fact -- still do most of this -- except for 16 and Tiger Beat. Funny thing is two girls that I wrote about in another thread -- Renee and Rachelle, who were good friends, always tried to tell me that I should dress in girls clothes too -- that'd I'd be very pretty. I'd try to reluctantly (yeah right -- I was screaming YES PLEASE inside) go along -- hoping that they'd get out their clothes and dress me up -- they had COOL clothes -- but we always got caught before anyting could go on.
Funny how all these years later, I'm the one in the marraige filled with love and have a great career -- and so many of my peers are divorced and unhappy
Huggles
Toni-Lynn
jennCD
01-03-2009, 05:20 PM
Heck, I still don't fit in and I'm into my 40s now!
Well, I was always the type of person to value a few close friends rather than want to be a little friendly to everyone possible. It's always been easier for me to focus my attention with small groups of people important to me.
Looking around at this point, other than one or two people who's company I enjoy (which is helpful since I work with them), I pretty much don't have any friends besides my immediate family... but I'm ok with that simply because it's always been that way.
Growing up, I was shy, awkward, had difficulty expressing myself, very uncoordinated, not into sports, cars, tools or anything with a masculine tilt to it. I enjoyed music and immersed myself in the idea of being a composer so that helped isolate me from most people.... which worked out well since I mostly wrote about feeling isolated from the world... who wouldda guessed, huh? LOL
So, all that notwithstanding, well I guess I'm just an average, normal, middle aged transgender person working on simply being me.
:)
jenn
DameErrant
01-03-2009, 05:29 PM
I was never one of the popular crowd; in fact, I was the "Omega Wolf," at the bottom of the social heirarchy. Last chosen for sports, etc, as so many others have posted. Never had a wide circle of friends, but when I made friends, they were very close. Hung around with the "geeks and nerds," Astronomy club guys who were trying to grind their own telescope mirror and working part time on a way to reverse entropy. Found another outlet in Scouting, which has had a permanent, positive effect on me.
CDing was only one outlet that I found for my discontents, but I truly believe that I would have found it even if I was Captain of the Football team.
Jennifer Giovannetta
01-03-2009, 05:41 PM
I was accepted my most kids my age. But I was skinny for most of my teenage years which made me prime bully bait. But my skinny stature did not prevent me from playing sports. I was particularly adept at football. When I reached high school the high school coach wanted me to play. He asked me after school every day to play for junior varsity. But I did not want to play because I was afraid of being rejected by the jock kids.
I guess I had normal childhood experiences. But I had a tendency to be a loner.
During all of this I never fully understood that I was a crossdresser. I knew I liked the clothes the girls would wear. At times I was jealous of them. I had no interested in boys clothes. It may sound funny but it only occured to me ONCE to wear a dress and heels. I tried it and felt silly and did not do it again for a few years. These feelings were a great source of guilt and shame for me. I always felt like I was diffrent than everyone else.
Just the other day I was thinking if I had access to the internet at that time, maybe I would discovered my crossdressing. It would of been interesting to see what I looked like dressed at that young age. I probably would of been passable.
Nicole Erin
01-03-2009, 05:52 PM
grade 1 thru 5 was not real bad, had friends and things went normal as any kid's grammar school career. 6 thru 10 were my rough years, especially 6, 7, 8.
Picked last for sports and all that crap. Got called faggot on a daily basis, and sometimes made fun of cause of an incident where I was caught dressed en femme when I was in 1st grade. Got to hear how I threw liike a girl or ran like one or walked like one...
So my middle school career consisted mostly of trying not to draw attention or hoping not to get spit on when riding the bus home and crap...
Being CD now and being treated like crap or a fag when I was in school. I don't know if there is really a correlation or which is the cause and effect.
I am one of the CD's out there that believes that what cause3d me to want to CD is feeling like I failed at manhood.
Emily Anderson
01-03-2009, 06:00 PM
Helen,
I was a perfectly "normal" boy (outwardly), as I'm sure many others were too. I don't believe one can really find answers for this type of question, any more than one could find answers to the reasons for crossdressing.
For me, it has always been a question of choice (inwardly), even though I recognize that it is against societal norms. The fact is, I've always been attracted to female clothing, whether for the beauty of the fabric and decorations (artistically speaking), or in a fetishistic way (sexual).
However, I also know that my experience is not the same as others, and should not be either. We are all individuals, making our own choices in life.
deja true
01-03-2009, 06:13 PM
Thankfully those school days are so long ago I've pretty much forgotten about them. Back in my day, there really wasn't a lot of bullying in any school I went to. The nuns saw to that in grade school and the teaching brothers saw to that in high school.
I was awkward and did the minimal in noncontact sports like track and swimming, just to get the letter, but really enjoyed the drama club. In the all-boys HS that was the only way to get to know girls from the all-girls school down the road, and the camaraderie of the rehearsals brought a lot of girls my way. Naturally, I was interested in them for more than just the usual teen-age boy reasons but a combination of shyness and respect kept me from getting seriously involved with any until....
I went to college and was seduced by that upperclasswoman! :D
Ediosa
01-03-2009, 06:30 PM
Well, I was Mr. Popular. I was captain of the high school football team, and baseball team. I was also a part of the wrestling team, would've been Captain of the basketball team(didn't play Senior year cause I hated the coach). I was was a part of every club you can think of. Chess club, astronomy club, Citizen Bee, Student Council, Yearbook Staff, and everything else you can think of. I was also a member of the Chorus, and Drama club. I was a member of the jocks, and a member of the geeks. Hanged out with the skaters and also dress as the populars. I was everywhere, even was the class flirt. I was all over the women. I didn't have many girlfriends though cause I will think to much about it. I will hear that this beautiful girl liked me, but I will think that was impossible. I thought to much about it and not just do it. When I finally decided to take one of those saying to action. I had a girlfriend for 2 years. I guess I should've been a normal guy and gone with those statements, maybe I would've gotten more then I did during high school. hahaha..... oh well.
I didn't like to be told I couldn't do this and that. I would always challenge the norm and always asked questions "why". Why couldn't I play football and be in the school play? That is one of the reason why I CD. Why can't I wear what I want to wear? But I had more girl friends then I have guy friends. I feel more connected with them.
Barbra 58
01-03-2009, 06:34 PM
Hi i never had any problems with my peers nor did i have any desire to wear womens clothes until I was 14 I found my mothers bra on the ground i put it on i dont know why and that was the start of my crossdressing i got a real sexual buzz .Then could not wait to do it again. I must say its much easyer when you are younger I sed to pass myself off no problem used to go to shopping malls use ladies toilets Ect. i would not dare try it now.
Daintre
01-03-2009, 06:40 PM
Well, I had a rocky start, we came to Canada when I was 5, started school at 6 and within 6-7 years my family moved 13 times. Not any time to even get to know anyone lets alone bond with boys or girls. I had my sisters to play with and they certainly did not want a "boy" around.
I was an overweight teen with no friends, in my senior year I had lost a great amount of weight during the summer time. When school started that year I was Mr popular all of a sudden, my mind had not changed, I was still me, but skinnier. I thought then as I do now...what a bunch of hypocrites
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kymmieLorain
01-03-2009, 06:45 PM
Well from kindergarten till mid 4th grade I was some what popular. Then we moved and my life went down the sewer. I was an outcast, picked on till highschool. I never had a girl friend after moving when before I had meny.
Oh well that is ancient history.
Kymmie
docrobbysherry
01-03-2009, 07:17 PM
I've ALWAYS gone my own way! That was fine in grade school. Had some problems with the bullies in middle school. Spent high school at the beach. Where surfing, 2 man volleyball, and layin' around the sand, with groups of guys and girls was what we did. Life was good! :)
As I got older, more guys, ( and gals), began respecting my independent attitude. :thumbsup:
I've never been confortable with larger groups of folks, regardless of their sexual orientation. But, I've had my share of GFs!:D
Until I started dressing 10 years ago!:brolleyes:
helenr
01-03-2009, 09:54 PM
thanks to all of your for sharing your recollections. I am inclined to conclude that for me, as apparently for others, it wasn't being discriminated against by the boys that furthered your crossdressing urges. Maybe this leaning towards the soft, for some of us, that promoted the bully behavior. I believe that young men, like male dogs at the doggy park, will always try to impose dominance and go around testing to see who is an equal, who might be stronger, who is definitely weaker. Alas, I fell into the last category.
beenherelongtime
01-03-2009, 10:18 PM
i wasn't the first one picked when choosing up sides, but i also wasn't the last the majority of times. i had a fairly normal child hood until i started crossdressing
No problems with being an outsider. I always had lots of friends at all levels of my schooling. Even though I was not the strongest kid around I had a few protectors to watch out for me. The only exception was when we moved when I was 12. It took half a school year to establish my new group of friends and so that was probably my most difficult time. It was only later, after school and military service, that friendships seemed to fall away and it became much harder to establish anything like those childhood friendships.
MissConstrued
01-03-2009, 11:46 PM
Okay... maybe I'll throw a curve ball here, in the middle.
First, I did wind up on the receiving end of some bullying in grade school. I was skipped a grade, which left me the class runt for several years. Of course, when that happens, it gets around that you're smart -- a nerd -- and worthy of abuse. That lasted a couple years until I threw one kid across the bus.
(Those of you who think violence doesn't solve anything? You're clueless. It stops bullying in a New York minute. No one wants to bully a kid who fights back. I just wish my parents hadn't been pacifists, and taught me that sooner.)
I wasn't athletic, but I never quit trying. It took me until my mid-20's before I got good at any sport, and I haven't regretted the effort. I like being athletic now at age 30, when the high-school jocks are now fat and washed out. Frankly, it all went to making me a better person -- one who works at proving others wrong when they say negative things. I think it all depends on how you react to being picked on. Do you want to believe your tormentors? Or prove them wrong?
I never had female friends. They just weren't interested in what I liked to do -- shoot, race, blow stuff up. They don't like history or particle physics or power tools or motorcycles or guns or computers. I discovered the pleasures they DO offer at the age of 20, and let's just say, I still don't want to be "just friends" with girls. :D :hugs: <--too platonic
Hrmph... all I feel like sharing for now.
Susan.
01-04-2009, 01:57 AM
I blended in well because I participated in sports. My only problem is that I am an introvert.
RobynP
01-04-2009, 02:09 AM
This topic and the replies are very interesting! Growing up was sort of a never-ending hell for me... I wasn't the last one to be picked when sides were chosen for teams. I was never picked by either team... Even the boys who were teased as being sissy or queer were picked for the teams... Teams would rather play with one person short than to have me on their team. So I went and played with the girls during recess where I was welcomed and accepted... Until the school made a rule that boys couldn't play with the girls during recess. I was often teased by "my peers" about many different things and when the teasing got out of hand, I would be the s%$t out of them because I was one of the bigger boys my class and I knew how to fight. I spent a lot of time in the principal's office while "my peers" were spending time in the nurse's office...
I was always a loner throughout school and never went through any of the male bonding stuff...
When I started crossdressing, it provided the ideal temporary sanctuary (or fantasy land...) from my living hell...
Robyn P.
jessica19cd
01-04-2009, 02:10 AM
well i'm still young. my friends that are girls tend to accept me better than my friends that are boys
billie earls
01-04-2009, 03:06 AM
I too played all the sports and other things that boys did, but I also knew that I was somehow different. I always felt sorry for those who were called things like faggot or sissy but I wasn't brave enough to do anything about it.
Because of my CD i've always been some what of a loner but that didn't keep me from participating in boys like things, I think it made me think a little deeper then most at my age. Although CDing can be a pain in the neck I wouldn't change it for anything. I'm in the closet because of my family but I'll always have this other side thats mine alone and I believe I like it that way. Sites like this make my inner self more real and keeps me from being alone.
Juanita O
01-04-2009, 09:43 AM
I was a loner most of the time until i started playing football in jr high, I went to high school play football some basketball. I was not really popular until my senior year when i got an all state honor for football. I have learned over all of these years not to take myself seriously,just go with the flow.
Angie G
01-04-2009, 10:03 AM
When I was a kid being bullied was not a big thing when some one tried it on me they got it back. I never had more then 1 or 2 friends at a time. I got alone with others but there was times I spent alone.:hugs:
Angie
Jonianne
01-04-2009, 10:16 AM
I had a very happy childhood and for the most part was accepted by my peers. My crossdressing was always a secret though. I was small and a little less than average athletic, but enjoyed playing sandlot sports with the neighborhood kids (boys and girls). I was well liked enough that once even the grade school "bully" stood up for me when someone else started picking on me.
Fact is, that I was always handled with kid gloves. I don't know why.
Another time when the principle started saying something to me about something I did not do, one of the student leaders, who was a jock, stood up for me in front of the whole school to the principle.
I am very humbled as to how and why I was protected so much.
Another time I went to retreive my bike that was stolen from a friend I had loaned it to. The bully, who was just let out of reform school, had my bike and I went to get it. He grabbed me by the collar and pulled his fist back to hit me and I just scrunched my face up waiting for the blow and then he just put his fist down and told me to take my bike and get out of there.
I am so thankful for all the angels, literal and human, that have watched out for me. Even when I came to self-acceptance of my crossdressing, I always feared God would no longer protect me, but I have found the protection is still there and I am so grateful.
Lanore
01-04-2009, 10:22 AM
I don't remember ever really wanting to hang out with the boys. I just felt more comfortable with girls. When I was around boys I still felt like a girl, maybe a 'tomboy' type. Some of the girls I grew up with, did boy things and nothing was ever said. I believe when there is no pressure to be one or the other, eventually the body catches up with the mind. I call it growth from within.
Cissy Chiana
01-04-2009, 10:57 AM
ironically I was often mistaken for a girl until about 16/17, I guess I was androgenous before the term was invented (or at least made popular), I wish I'd started taking hormones then so I'd be more feminine now than I grew up to be.
Sophie_C
01-04-2009, 12:17 PM
Maybe not the greatest of titles,but I am meaning-when you were a little boy, were your popular with other little boys-or sort of an outcast?
I am not sure if my attraction to females and feminine clothing at such an early age wasn't equally prompted by rejection by my 'peer group' boy crowd. You understand what I mean, when in 2nd, 3rd grade--the boys and girls rarely mix and mingle except when required in a classroom.
I wasn't popular, was bullied, selected last for the dreaded 'pick your team' ,etc and I wonder if this lack of acceptance by boys wasn't as much a factor in 'going femme' as being naturally attracted to all that feminine. How about you?
When I was younger, I was smaller than most girls in my class, therefore not exactly #1 when being picked for any physical activities. But, moreso, I had some sort of undiagnosed social anxiety disorder. That's why I was more of an outcast. Whether that is tied into my t-leaning, well, that's up to Freud to decide.
But, my feminine characteristics have been there since day one. I clearly remember being told to 'stand like a boy' and have photos of myself sitting down like most women do, not to mention countless other things.
sybercom11
01-05-2009, 02:46 AM
My friends growing up were the other sissies and the girls. Did not have a lot of friends who were "real boys." I didn't know I was weird because I was just being me. Some bully boys thought I was weird and verbally abused me and they did not like me hanging around the cutest the girls all the time.
sometimes_miss
01-05-2009, 08:39 AM
I wasn't accepted by anyone. Parents mostly absent; sister hated me; teachers felt I 'wasn't working up to my potential', branded me as 'lazy' just because I didn't like doing what they wanted me to; other students thought my birthmark was disgusting, treated me like a leper. The isolation made me prime pickings for a pedophile, one of the results of which is that I'm a crossdresser. I didn't have any yearning for anything feminine until that happened, nor did I have any female ideas, desires, or behaviors.
Desiree2bababe
01-05-2009, 10:49 AM
I was popular thruout my life, even in high school when the rumors started. It was hell but I made it through with a couple good friends.
AmandaM
01-05-2009, 11:18 AM
I had friends of both sexes. But two things happened that made me think. 1. On my little league team the guys were joking around and gave every player a girl name, except for me. 2. I got hit by a ball on the arm. The coach was rubbing my arm when he looked at the other coach and said my skin was too soft for a boy.
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