We are not Girls we are Gurls

[Ellen]

Hi Gurls how can you be a "girl" if you wasn't born as one so in Aussie we use the adopted term Gurl so you can wear Girls clothes but they go onto a Gurl so give me the comments

[brookalicious]

LOL... sometimes I can be whatever you want to call me. :devil:

[NancyTO]

I thought Aussie girls/gurls were 'Sheilas.'

[Sara Jessica]

Nah, I'm all girl!!!

[Tamara Croft]

:rolleyes: girls = young children... get a grip and grow up!

[Ellen]

Bet i'm a lot older than you so i have grown up so your a Gurl too & your a Grim Reaper

[VeronicaMoonlit]

:rolleyes: girls = young children... get a grip and grow up!

As much as I agree with you on this one, it's just a stupid silly thing that I don't make much a fuss over except in how I say on occasion: "I'm 41 years old, I'm no girl."

Don't let your frustations about other things leak over too much, I'm guilty of that on occasion dealing with my own issues.

Veronica
Rondelle (Ron) Rogers Jr.

[Sara Jessica]

:rolleyes: girls = young children... get a grip and grow up!

Oh please, then let me rephrase that...I'm all woman.

Thanks for the insult. I might have ignored it under normal circumstances but this evening hasn't been a good one for me in tg land, not that you'd care. My reply to this tread was simply trying to make a polite point about my lack of fondness for the term "gurl".

[Tamara Croft]

Oh please, then let me rephrase that...I'm all woman.Was that so hard?


Thanks for the insult.You're most welcome..
I might have ignored it under normal circumstances but this evening hasn't been a good one for me in tg land, not that you'd care. My reply to this tread was simply trying to make a polite point about my lack of fondness for the term "gurl".Do you think you're the only person who has issues? Try having a daughter with severe post natal depression and wishes she was dead... then come back to me ok?

[Sara Jessica]

Was that so hard?

You're most welcome..Do you think you're the only person who has issues? Try having a daughter with severe post natal depression and wishes she was dead... then come back to me ok?

With all due respect, Ms. Moderator, I've ignored your other rant because I'm not guilty of the behaviour you are complaining of. Yet you come into another thread with the same pissy attitude and spew venom where it's not warranted, nor welcome.

I'm truly sorry about your daughter, but that doesn't give even a moderator license to be hurtful.

[VeronicaMoonlit]

Was that so hard?

You're most welcome..Do you think you're the only person who has issues? Try having a daughter with severe post natal depression and wishes she was dead... then come back to me ok?

Depression sucks, whether suffered by a relative, by many transgendered folks or by myself personally. But that is no excuse for your current behavior on the boards and you, above all, should know that.

Take my advice, take a break from moderating for a while, then come back when things are better. Take time for yourself.

Veronica
Rondelle (Ron) Rogers Jr.

[Maria2222]

I agree with you completely Ellen and call myself a gurl because I never was and never can be a girl, but I think that some of the gurls prefer to be girls. It doesn't hurt anything.
:)

[TriciaO]

:rolleyes: girls = young children... get a grip and grow up!

So, what kind of smartass remark should I make to the women at work when they talk about their "Girls Night Out"? :confused:

[queenie]

Am I the only one who gets annoyed by all these fake labels?

Boi
Womyn
Gurl

Just be yourself.

[jennifer41356]

I hate that word Gurl:angry::censor::puke:

[jennifer41356]

With all due respect, Ms. Moderator, I've ignored your other rant because I'm not guilty of the behaviour you are complaining of. Yet you come into another thread with the same pissy attitude and spew venom where it's not warranted, nor welcome.

I'm truly sorry about your daughter, but that doesn't give even a moderator license to be hurtful.

:iagree:, I thought I was the only one who has noticed that

[Billijo49504]

I'm just wondering one thing, if you are over 21 years old, are you a gurl or a wuman????? Hmmmm!!!BJ:doh:

[Ellen]

Yes i am over 21 & uhh mmm uhh i am a wumannn na i aint i'm TheGurl:)

[CD Susan]

Ellen, you can call yourself what ever you want but please do not refer to me as a "gurl". I am a crossdressing adult and do not ever think of myself as an immature girl or even boy for that matter!

[Jacqui]

I am not a girl or a gurl.....
I am a gryl....or more precisely, a womyn.
I am also a pyrson and a humyn bying.
Please treat me as such.
Thank you.

Jacqui

[StephanieT]

Labels are labels that are created by those who say them. I am a guy who enjoys dressing as a woman. When dressed, I prefer to be addressed as a present myself and I do not need any special labels to describe myself.

[insearchofme]

I agree with Stephanie!

[Schatten Lupus]

That is, in my mind, only half correct. While physically I am not a girl, soon I will be. As far as a "gurl" I guess I could be that for now.....although I thought it was just some odd internet term.

[Tracii G]

Never liked labels.
Tamara I know how that feels I had a wife that went thru that twice its not pretty.I understand completly.

[docrobbysherry]

I thought Aussie girls/gurls were 'Sheilas.'

I think they prefer the term, " Shulas"!


:rolleyes: girls = young children... get a grip and grow up!

With all do respect, Tamara, and in consideration that I'm probably older than the thread starter, some of my characters appear to be girls in their young teens!:brolleyes:

Some of us aspire to look like women, some girls! Some of us try both!:D

I have NEVER aspired to look like a " gurl", tho!:doh:

[Tamara Croft]

Well I seem to have offended a lot of people in this thread... and all I can do is openly apologise... I have a young daughter, to me she is a 'young lady'... and it gets on my nerves when CD's say they are 'girls'... you are not, you are either young ladies, or women... that's how I view you... not girls... and gurls is just silly...

[Edwina]

Hi Gurls how can you be a "girl" if you wasn't born as one so in Aussie we use the adopted term Gurl so you can wear Girls clothes but they go onto a Gurl so give me the comments

But then again you call coffee with milk "a flat white" :devil:

:love:

"Grannie" Edwina

[MissConstrued]

Just don't call me late for dinner. Or tucker.

[docrobbysherry]

Well I seem to have offended a lot of people in this thread... and all I can do is openly apologise... I have a young daughter, to me she is a 'young lady'... and it gets on my nerves when CD's say they are 'girls'... you are not, you are either young ladies, or women... that's how I view you... not girls... and gurls is just silly...

79689

Some of us can PRETEND to be girls if we like!

After all, aren't ALL OF US PRETENDING ANYWAY?

Personally, I don't care WHAT u call me, but aren't u splitting hairs here?

[Tamara Croft]

Personally, I don't care WHAT u call me, but aren't u splitting hairs here?How about barbie? :hiding: and splitting hairs.. how so? we do have 'young ladies' do we not?

[curse within]

Well I seem to have offended a lot of people in this thread... and all I can do is openly apologise... I have a young daughter, to me she is a 'young lady'... and it gets on my nerves when CD's say they are 'girls'... you are not, you are either young ladies, or women... that's how I view you... not girls... and gurls is just silly...

You didn't offend me I perfer to be called a guy or a man...

[Mydia]

you are either young ladies, or women... that's how I view you... not girls... and gurls is just silly...

100% agreed. I HATE those terms...especially the latter... >_<;;

[KimberlyS]

You didn't offend me I perfer to be called a guy or a man...

Ditto me in on that one.

I do see two different things going on here when we talk labels like this. If you are a MTF CDer we are guys. And pretend to be what ever you want to be. If you are a MTF TS, well then I understand a bit more the wanting to mix your labels like woman with in a male body. And I am going to be like society and ignore all of the grey area in the middle.

I am just a guy to likes to clothe my male self with masculine and feminine clothing to match my masculine and feminine traits, personalities, and feelings. There is no one single label that fits that. Except for maybe MTF CDer.


kim
joe in a skirt

[DawnRodgers]

It wouold seem to be kind of whatever you want. I kow GG's that call then=mselves girl, gal, - actually don't hear a lot call themselves women. I kind of like the term gurl because when it is spoken it sounds like girl. I don't attach any nrgatives to the term at all. The term "girl" does not connote, to me, any negative or insult. Instead it seems cute and I'd rather be called that than some of the terms I have heard used for women. Relax ladies. Life's to short. Chill.
Dawn

[Stephanie Michelle]

I bet spell check is having a breakdown with this thread. Lets keep it in jest so we all can have a litle fun.

Stephanie Michelle

[Electra]

I am just a man who prefers to wear female clothing for the beautiful feeling it gives. I don't like to be called a girl, gal, gurl,lady or woman except when somebody defers to me calling me 'Ma'am' when I'm in female mode and 'pass' which unfortunately doesn't happen often :sad:.

[JaytoJillian]

Just a guy in a dress here, LoL

[Kate Simmons]

Well, call me anything but "late for dinner." After all, all girls, gurls (or guys) just love to have lu-unch (as Weird Al would say).;):battingeyelashes::)

[BobbiJ]

Well I seem to have offended a lot of people in this thread... and all I can do is openly apologise... I have a young daughter, to me she is a 'young lady'... and it gets on my nerves when CD's say they are 'girls'... you are not, you are either young ladies, or women... that's how I view you... not girls... and gurls is just silly...

Those of us that have a femme side to their personalities will never really be female, but we derive some comfort from expressing that inner femininity in whatever ways we are able. Part of that comfort, for many of us, comes from use of feminine pronouns when we are en femme. In that mode, it is very hurtful to be referred to as "a man in a dress," which is sadly common even among supposedly supportive SO's.

Is jabbing the needle in just because that's "how you view us" really necessary?

[Sheila]

. Part of that comfort, for many of us, comes from use of feminine pronouns when we are en femme. In that mode, it is very hurtful to be referred to as "a man in a dress," which is sadly common even among supposedly supportive SO's.

Is jabbing the needle in just because that's "how you view us" really necessary?

from a GG viewpont it is extremely hurtful to be continually told that we are not dressing in "THE CORRECT MODE FOR FEMALES" and this happens time and time again from CDR's, and many cdr's on here refer to themselves as " A man in a Dress " I know Debs does

[BobbiJ]

from a GG viewpont it is extremely hurtful to be continually told that we are not dressing in "THE CORRECT MODE FOR FEMALES" and this happens time and time again from CDR's, and many cdr's on here refer to themselves as " A man in a Dress " I know Debs does

"Correct mode for females?"

That had GOT to be one of the most hypocritical things a CD could ever say.

If we seek the freedom to express our inner selves in ways not considered "appropriate" for men by society, then we must also allow that women have the same freedom to dress in any manner THEY see fit.

Isn't the whole point of all this that "correct modes" are artificial constructs that serve only to restrict us from expressing who we are?

If any given CD wished to refer to themselves as a man in a dress, that is his choice. That doesn't mean it's okay to use the same term on those if us that don't.

[Joanne f]

I have been call several things on here so far and not one of them sounded anything like "Girl or Gurl " :lol::roflmao::donut:

[Jess_cd32]

As my Dad used to tell us when we were young, 'fight nice kids':heehee:

[JoAnne Wheeler]

Well in Australia, you might ge a GURL, but in the SOUTH part of the USA, we like to call ourselves GIRLS and Southern BELLES and we love to be FEMININE
Judy my thoughts,
JoAnne Wheeler

[Madame George]

I believe sometimes it's very difficult for anyone who wasn't raised as a female to understand how certain words, stereotypes, or unrealistic societal expectations affect women. The term girl, no matter how you spell it, is often used in conversation to lessen the value of a woman. Maybe it's not even a conscious act, but the ramifications of it are not lessened according to level of intent.

Personal experience: I was invited to a private networking event by a professor. He invited six of us, his star students, to the gathering and took time to walk each of us around and introduce us to the professionals present. Each time he introduced one of the male students, he referred to them as young men, but he referred to me as "and this girl here is...." In that nanosecond he took me from being an equal to my fellow male students and turned me into a prepubescent child. Someone to be looked over, but not taken seriously.

[MissConstrued]

Part of that comfort, for many of us, comes from use of feminine pronouns when we are en femme. In that mode, it is very hurtful to be referred to as "a man in a dress," which is sadly common even among supposedly supportive SO's.

Is jabbing the needle in just because that's "how you view us" really necessary?


When you have a vagina, uterus, ovaries, fallopian tubes, and all the rest, you can legitimately expect people to call you a woman.

Until then, I suspect you are not.

I can run around believing I'm the tooth fairy, but until I actually sprout wings and fly, I'd just be a man in a fairy suit.

So.... I'm just wondering what's wrong with reality?

[Sara Jessica]

Well I seem to have offended a lot of people in this thread... and all I can do is openly apologise... I have a young daughter, to me she is a 'young lady'... and it gets on my nerves when CD's say they are 'girls'... you are not, you are either young ladies, or women... that's how I view you... not girls... and gurls is just silly...

Tamara, as one who was offended, I appreciate your apology.

Interestingly, about the use of "girl", I think it's all about context as well. I already explained the basis for my original response to this thread and since then, I replied to a friend's email who made a computer reference. My response to her was "yes, I'm an Apple girl". It came out a lot more naturally than "Apple woman", kind of like what someone mentioned before, "Girls Night Out".

"Girl" is not a term I abuse, just one which comes out here and there depending on the situation and context.

[cindym5_04]

I don't personally care for any of those terms like gyrls, gurls, womyn (that was a new one). Those spellings actually kind of disgust me. The term girl (like for Girls' Night Out) or lady or any of the typical femme terms are fine to me when I'm dressed. I'm a CD or a TV, or even a TG. We are transgendered. The fake labels are, to me, just revolting.

[battybattybats]

When you have a vagina, uterus, ovaries, fallopian tubes, and all the rest, you can legitimately expect people to call you a woman.

Until then, I suspect you are not.

I can run around believing I'm the tooth fairy, but until I actually sprout wings and fly, I'd just be a man in a fairy suit.

So.... I'm just wondering what's wrong with reality?

Sigh. Go read this: http://aebrain.blogspot.com/2008/06/bigender-and-brain.html

You'll find plenty else on the site. Fact is many transexuals literally have female-brain anatomy! Plenty of Intersex people have female chromasomes but male anatomy and vice-versa. XXY people, XYY people, AIS, ovatestes and microphaluses....

There is no true definition of male or female! Just strong averages! Organs, neurology, chromasomes, none of it is foolproof!

As for the use of the word 'girls'...

Almost no-one i know uses the term woman or man to refer to anyone of their own age group or lower, only to people far more than 10 years older than themselves. Part of the last several generations youth-obsession I suspect.

[TG-Taru]

Go Batty! :D

I'll just add, to some especially early stage people "girl" would be appropriate in that they're just starting into womanhood, it having been suppressed and having had opposing upbringing previous. Going through a sort of teen phase before reaching mature womanhood, if they ever do, depending on how much female they are to begin with.

And the word can be used to belittle, but you shouldn't automatically assume or feel (try not to unless you can clearly see it is) it's meant to.

[Madame George]

Sigh. Go read this: http://aebrain.blogspot.com/2008/06/bigender-and-brain.html

You'll find plenty else on the site. Fact is many transexuals literally have female-brain anatomy!

I've read the above study they mention, as well as a few others that share similar parameters. There are inherent problems with their research methods regarding the mapping of the brains of transsexuals. Primarily that the transsexuals included in the study had all been on hrt for a significant amount of time during their lives. Since we have little information on how the increase in estrogen has on the brain when introduced later in life, a control group would be needed to correct for this missing information. None of the studies included such subjects.

Also, it takes a very long time to prove that such correlations are indeed causal. Even longer, if ever, to say it is a fact.

I'm not saying this to negate anyone's claim of womanhood, but using science to justify someone's identity is often folly.

[AmandaM]

God, you people will fight about anything. LOL

[onowic]

God, you people will fight about anything. LOL

Whoo hoo!!! Girl fight!!! No wait.. Gurl fight!!! No wait... ah forget it... carry on...

[Di]

God, you people will fight about anything. LOL

True that:D

Anyone can call themselves whatever they want but my personal dislike for the word gurl. I think its discourteous. But thats just me.

[Julogden]

Hi Elen,

You're mixing up girl/woman with female. One is not born a girl or boy, those are gender roles that we adopt as we get older. We ARE born male or female, or rarely, intersexed.

Genetic sex and gender identity are two separate things, as has been demonstrated time and time again in the community.

Carol

[Anna the Dub]

I hate that term 'gurl'. Makes me cringe every time I see it, it is something I would take offence at if directed at me. Oh and I would only ever use the term 'girls' when meeting up with 'the girls' for a bit of a 'girly night' or when I do meet up saying 'hey girls, what's happening?' etc. So don't use 'gurl' to describe me.

[Kelsy]

Cabin fever?, Full moon? What's up this place has gone wobbly!:eek:

PS Gurl is insulting!! You want to be called Gurl fine not me Thank You

?????Kelsy

[docrobbysherry]

When you have a vagina, uterus, ovaries, fallopian tubes, and all the rest, you can legitimately expect people to call you a woman.
Until then, I suspect you are not.
I can run around believing I'm the tooth fairy, but until I actually sprout wings and fly, I'd just be a man in a fairy suit.
So.... I'm just wondering what's wrong with reality?

For MANY CDs, me included, CDing IS about the FANTASY! So, when I'm dressed in my Fairy Outfit, I want to hear,
" What a pretty Fairy u r!", on THIS site! I can hear, " Oh look! A weird perverted dude dressed like a Fairy!", anywhere else! :Angry3: Doesn't that make SENSE?:eek:


God, you people will fight about anything. LOL

Amanda, I afraid this is what happens when u put a whole bunch of guys together in a room!:heehee:

[MissConstrued]

You'll find plenty else on the site. Fact is many transexuals literally have female-brain anatomy! Plenty of Intersex people have female chromasomes but male anatomy and vice-versa. XXY people, XYY people, AIS, ovatestes and microphaluses....



Once again, Batty, you demonstrate your complete lack of a sense of humor, and strong propensity to take umbrage at the drop of a hat. Hasn't taken me long to pick up on that, despite being a n00b here.

I made no reference to intersexed people whatsoever. Nor was I talking about trans-sexuals. I'm talking about males (yes, possessors of male plumbing) who expect to be called "woman" or "ma'am" or "she" because they don different clothing. It's absurd.

It's one thing, as Doc says, if it's fantasy -- and we're clear that it's fantasy. If a CDer gets a "ma'am" now and then in public, well, all in good fun. I just don't expect the vast majority of the public to play along, and accept the demands of a tiny minority that said minority be labeled according to its demands and in a manner extremely confusing to the general public. That would be bad enough if there was even a consensus amongst that minority, but there isn't.

I know that when I'm out and about, dressed like a chick, that I'm throwing a monkey wrench in the works. The onus is on me, not the people I'm throwing the monkey wrench at.

[AmandaM]

Amanda, I afraid this is what happens when u put a whole bunch of guys together in a room!:heehee:

uh-oh, now you did it. :devil:

[Sarah...]

Nope. I'm a 42 year old woman. And proud of it.

Sarah...

[jillleanne]

I never liked 'gurl'. I always took it as a spelling error. Me, what do I prefer for me? Well ok, I'll tell ya siince you need to know. I prefer "ho". Can't be time stamped, understood in many languages and hard to mispell.
I do expect, however, to read a couple of 'gun fights' here shortly, unrelated to my silly humor.
Oh, did I say 'humor'? Right, that's me, hard to get a serious word out of this ho's mouth. Did you ask why? Well, for one thing I plan on kicking the bucket some day, and have no intention of making my short stay here on this sort of blue planet, too serious 'cause well, I'm just not the serious type anymore; been there, done that, and with my luck, just when I say something serious, someone will either want to argue about it, or make a joke of it, and who doesn't like a good joke to make their heart healthier? Well I can name a few here but I won't. I also learned no matter what one says here, no matter how little, like ' ho', for instance, someone will have something to say, just watch. Comedy at it's best, right here, and it's all free.
ok, the timer is set, go!!!!!!!!

[Deborah Jane]

It don,t matter what you call yourself!!!!

At the end of the day You are what you are
And short of getting surgery thats what you,ll always be!!

[StephanieT]

Cabin fever?, Full moon? What's up this place has gone wobbly!:eek:



?????Kelsy
Yes there was a full Wolf moon. That must be what happened.

Full Wolf Moon - January Amid the cold and deep snows of midwinter, the wolf packs howled hungrily outside Indian villages. (From the Farmers Almanac)
http://www.farmersalmanac.com/full-moon-names

[MissConstrued]

Full Wolf Moon - January Amid the cold and deep snows of midwinter, the wolf packs howled hungrily outside Indian villages.

Oh dear. Wait til the PC police see that.

[AmandaM]

They do that in India? snort! :) LOL

[cindym5_04]

Hey! Hey Now!! I'm part Native American! How dare you bring my people into this!


Okay I'm kidding... I'm not really offended. :heehee: Actually that was accurate information.

(and come on... I saw the request for PC Police!)

[StephanieT]

Oh dear. Wait til the PC police see that.

My PC has a Police Force?:D

[AmandaM]

Yes! :bigsmack:

[Kelsy]

Full Wolf Moon - January Amid the cold and deep snows of midwinter, the wolf packs howled hungrily outside Native America villages. url]

All fixed :)Kelsy

[Nicki B]

God, you people will fight about anything. LOL

I fear that, as soon as someone decided for others what they were, that was inevitable.. :sad:

Let's just agree not to do that in future, it always ends in tears?

[Catherine99]

Total woman, in my mind!

[Valerie]

So.... I'm just wondering what's wrong with reality?

Are you kidding? (or kudding?) :D

Valerie

[battybattybats]

I've read the above study they mention, as well as a few others that share similar parameters. There are inherent problems with their research methods regarding the mapping of the brains of transsexuals.

If you go through the site you'll find many of the concerns you raise covered in discussion and some aspects dealt with in related studies.


Once again, Batty, you demonstrate your complete lack of a sense of humor, and strong propensity to take umbrage at the drop of a hat. Hasn't taken me long to pick up on that, despite being a n00b here.

Perhaps you failed to consider that text conveys tone differently from speech. When your 'joking' and don't want to be taken literlly try smilies as an easy way to convey the requisite emotions.


I made no reference to intersexed people whatsoever.

I noticed that. But that does not invalidate my point. That the existence of IS and the basic variations of male and female make the two catagories indistinct blurred and interrelated. Hence ne of the reasons it was valid to raise IS.


Nor was I talking about trans-sexuals.

There are plenty here. They don't have a big TS stamp on their avatars. Who knows when you might be talking to one!


I'm talking about males (yes, possessors of male plumbing)

And plenty of TSs have male plumbing and there are GGs with male plumbing too, hence my point about IS!


who expect to be called "woman" or "ma'am" or "she" because they don different clothing. It's absurd.

And what, exactly, is absurd about it?


It's one thing, as Doc says, if it's fantasy -- and we're clear that it's fantasy.

For a large number of non-TS CDs it is more than fantasy! From: http://ai.eecs.umich.edu/people/conway/TS/TSprevalence.html

In the United States there are varying estimates of the prevalence of crossdressing. Most conservative estimates are in the range of 2% to 5% of all adult males engage in routine crossdressing (1:50 to 1:20). These are people who crossdress part-time either privately at home, or in private CD clubs, and who find great satisfaction in this practice. In a majority of these cases there is mainly a male fetishistic motivation for the crossdressing. However, in a moderate fraction (1/3rd?) it mainly provides an outlet for mild to moderate to strong transgender feelings.



If a CDer gets a "ma'am" now and then in public, well, all in good fun. I just don't expect the vast majority of the public to play along, and accept the demands of a tiny minority that said minority be labeled according to its demands and in a manner extremely confusing to the general public. That would be bad enough if there was even a consensus amongst that minority, but there isn't.

Goths are a minority, mainstream society is swiftly growing in it's acceptance of us. People get used to difference, they just need to be sufficiently exposed to it for long enough!


I know that when I'm out and about, dressed like a chick, that I'm throwing a monkey wrench in the works. The onus is on me, not the people I'm throwing the monkey wrench at.

Not in any western democracy anywhere in the world! Every post-absolute-monarchy nation exists in a situation where everyone is morally and ethically obliged to tolerate and accept the different so long as they are ethical. The onus is always on every single person. Without which their is no equality of liberty.

Now that said, there may indeed be value to having terms of address etc that convey differing kinds and levels of Cds etc. Gurls may well be one for those who wish to be like girls but like to concurrently retain elements of their male-identity rather than to present themselves as girls.

Despite the flaws in some wording it rather suits some of the notions in the GenderFree Manifesto http://intersexnews.blogspot.com/2009/01/genderfree-manifesto.html

I think there absolutely must be room for self-identified Gurls in our community, but those who do not wish to call themselves that should not have it imposed on them where girls or Tgirls or many other titles may be more appropriate for them.

[sometimes_miss]

Just a guy in a dress here, LoL

Same here. The only 'girl' part of me is the part that grew up waiting to, and expecting to, become a woman, but of course did not. That part of my personality is frozen permanently into adolescent female, and will never change. The rest of me is for better or worse, all guy; a guy who really, really, really feels great when dressed as a 'girl'.

[CharleneT]

....... If a CDer gets a "ma'am" now and then in public, well, all in good fun. I just don't expect the vast majority of the public to play along, and accept the demands of a tiny minority that said minority be labeled according to its demands and in a manner extremely confusing to the general public. That would be bad enough if there was even a consensus amongst that minority, but there isn't.

I know that when I'm out and about, dressed like a chick, that I'm throwing a monkey wrench in the works. The onus is on me, not the people I'm throwing the monkey wrench at.

:iagree:


YEAH, I agree completely !!! VERY well said !!!

C.

[Jilmac]

:rolleyes: girls = young children... get a grip and grow up!

I have sisters older than myself, one 70, and one 67. Two other sisters are younger but still very much adults, and I lovingly refer to them as "the girls".
As for me, I know I'm not a genetic female but when I'm dressed I can be any feminine catagory I want to be (girl, woman, etc.).

[Ellen]

I have sisters older than myself, one 70, and one 67. Two other sisters are younger but still very much adults, and I lovingly refer to them as "the girls".
As for me, I know I'm not a genetic female but when I'm dressed I can be any feminine catagory I want to be (girl, woman, etc.).

Bet they really love you for that i hope when i'm 70 i'm still referred to as the young (TheGurl)

[Tashee]

i will call me a Birl because i am still a boy. or a Mirl seeing i am male still.

hi im tashee i am a Mirl:love:


sound like i am from the old mork n mindy show!