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I really find that hard to believe. I just took a look at your album, you are a hot girl!Quote:
Originally Posted by ReineD
Very good point. I don't mean to be cliche, but I guess there is only one way to find out.Quote:
Originally Posted by ReineD
While the thought of prince charming riding in on his white steed is a romantic notion, wouldn't you be putting the horse before the cart? You don't even know if you are going to like what the prince has to offer you.:heehee: Just a thought.
Kel
It is soo complicated and confusing :)
That's very good! lol. It's the best description I've seen yet. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by sherri
Here's food for thought. I speak two languages but I'm more proficient now in English than my native language, due to the lack of people to talk to in French. :)
I've had similar thoughts, either being the guy lusting over my woman (me in the mirror), or me en femme being desired by me the guy. Kinda weird, I guess, but I'm a dress-for-pleasure CD, and it's the visual image that excites. These fantasies usually involve my over-the-top style and strong fetish for deep red lipstick and very high heels. I've never actually been with a man while crossdressed (or otherwise), but hey, nothing wrong with fantasies. Speaking of fantasies, I have also fantasized about being with another CD, but again, never done that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Daniela76
To the original question, it seems to me that all who have responded have thought about being with a man while crossdressed. Some have done it, some want to but haven't (yet), and some have totally rejected the idea as sick. But how can you reject the idea if you haven't thought about it?
Euphemism that it is, he wouldn't be my Prince Charming unless he had what it takes to blow my skirt clear up over my head. :) And he wouldn't be riding a cart or a horse ... I'm thinking an Audi luxury sedan maybe ... :DQuote:
Originally Posted by kellycan27
It depends on what you mean by "be with a man". I don't know what you look like, but if it's sex you're after, you shouldn't have too much trouble. A meaningful relationship is another matter entirely -- or even a guy with enough balls to take you out to a nice restaurant.Quote:
Originally Posted by legz31
Lol. I know what you mean! These days, my parlez vous is in play much more than the Queen's english. :D Not my fault though, I love being bilingual -- or better yet, maybe I could be the translator in the middle! :DQuote:
Originally Posted by ReineD
I think you're a hottie! The only fantasies that interest me are the ones that stand a chance of becoming reality. ;-)Quote:
Originally Posted by NicoleScott
I forgot to add that your avatar pic has always given me hot flashes! So expressive.Quote:
Originally Posted by ReineD
I cant agree with Lilly44B and Mistybtm more,tried it liked it,and now love it. Being dressed and being with a man is true feminine fullfillment. Scary at first,but now there is no other way I would rather be.
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I'm just curious to see just how many of the girls here now that "have [or claimed to have had] it done and love it"
Would still feel as giggly as a school girl from her first kiss
If it wasn't for the fact you knew your frilly lil sexy knickers/Panties were wrapped around your ankles at the time.
Wouldn't it be the same if you were both naked?
Does peeling down those french cut panties make it oh so much enjoyable then pulling down your boxerbriefs??
Do you need t keep the lights on or off to keep it :in the mood" and not suddenly break back into reality??
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When I was young, 12 yo, my best friend and I did some experimenting with each other. It was fun, we had no thoughts regarding it other exploration and I did not encounter it again with another guy, but I had no concerns about it either way. I am pretty new to CD and have enjoyed this forum immensely. I have drawn from the knowledge of many and it has made CDing much more fun.
As far as being with a guy, back in the winter I was at the gym and had gotten my regular workout in and taken a shower. At the time, I would only wear panties. I had become pretty good at getting them off and on without drawing attention, normally putting them on while my towel was still wrapped around me, then slipping on my slacks. As I was leaving the locker room one evening a guy behind me struck up a conversation. He commented that he was going for a beer (there is a bar 2 doors down from the gym) and offered to buy me one.
Long story short, he had seen me a couple of weeks ago and noticed my panties in my locker when I opened the door. He was into crossdressers. One thing led to another and after a couple of weeks we ended up at his place. It was the first time I had fully dressed including hair and makeup. It was kinda like a date. I very much took the role of the girlfriend and did my best to please him like a girl. Now looking back, I kinda feel like its a transformation when I dress like a girl, I will totally act like one. Forgive the long winded story/explanation of dating a guy, I just felt like telling my story
Can't speak for anyone else, of course, but when engaged in the dirty deed am usually wearing zilch. The feminine look is in the makeup, and the accessories. The clothes and the wigs cost too much to risk having them damaged by the stray squirt of masculine fluid. Monica Lewinski's sweater was ruined, wasn't it?Quote:
Originally Posted by Sammy777
Curious as to why you assume that what bi-CD do with Men is not "reality." Everyone wears a face which they show only to themselves, some are satin, some are steel, some are silk and some are leather, so which is reality, the face we wear at our work place, the face we wear at Thanksgiving dinner, the face of passion and sex, or the face we see in the mirror at at 3:00 a.m. on Sunday morning? 1 And which one is the mask?
1 Apologies to Billy Joel.
I agree with you Starr
its a subtle, but very powerful thing in all trans peoples lives...cisgendered people have to work very hard to understand what most of us go through.. our identities and our sexuality are dehumanized and minimized all the time
and kudos to the cisgendered people that can really look at something like "Bi-CD" sex as equal to whatever kind of sex they enjoy..
and BTW...my bestest "bi-cd" friend carries a large handbag and in it she keeps her "F#* me" shoes and her "sex" wig for proper occasions..:heehee:, you can always wash a stain out of a dress:devil:
While dressed en fem, I have often fantasied about being treaded chivalrously on a date. But I sometimes have a freak show going on inside my head so in all reality I don't think I could bring myself to physically be with a man, but going on a date with a good looking guy could serve as an accessory to my being dressed en fem. A long black dress with a high slit :love: -Valerie
......when I am 'dressed', I see myself as, feel myself as, become, 100% female
In that 'mode', I get turned on by the thought of a guy fancying me....coming on to me....not any specific guy...just that he's male and lusts after me
I have never been in the company of a guy when 'dressed'. What would be my reaction, if that situation ever occured, if a man 'came on' to me? I've no idea if I'd go the 'extra mile' to fulfill my femininity but it's an intriguing thought
In my normal 'drab' male persona, I could never think of another guy sexually...in fact the thought would repulse me
How's that for a dichotomy?
I prefer women and can not imagine going out with a man other than friends
It was a dress, and she chose not to have it cleaned. Wanted a memento I guess.Quote:
Originally Posted by StarrOfDelite
I have only ever been intimate with my wife. having said that, when i am dressed and in femme form i often fantasize about men. i want to live the fantasy but finding the right man seems to be a big hurdle for me.
i dont dress often with my wife but she once asked me this question while i was dressed. i hesitated to answer which answered the question without any words.
Why do MTF crossdressers have to be attracted to men or be gay or etc just because they dress as a women? I've always seen them as lesbians in a mans body. The brain of a lesbian is more male than a gay male's brain (in my research). Lesbians probably have a big advantage in the estrogen and puberty departments (a headstart).
The only case I can imagine a MTF crossdresser being interested in men would be if they were a bit closer to gay (male) rather than the average MTF crossdresser. I see gays being a bit closer to women psychologically (and attraction). I see MTF crossdressers being a bit closer to gay than me. I see myself as being less masculine than the average straight male, but i think psychologically i'm closer to male than most cross-dressers are. I do not think how someone looks (male or female) has to be related to their psychology (and attraction). For example, a gay man can have the brain of a women and the attraction impulse of a women but the body of a male wrestler. A gay man does not have to look feminine.
Also I understand that there're a lot of gays that dress as women for sport. It has always seemed odd to me that gay's are psychologically more women-like than MTF crossdressers, so where're all the gays that're wearing dresses and skirts? Well, I suspect it has something to do with sexual attraction. They're not attracted to those things. So there's an element of crossdressing that's probably sexual in nature, but there's also a genuine exploration of the feminine mind. Additionally, gays aren't expected to wear dresses like women are. It's cultural too. I think women are generally more fashion oriented. Not unexpectedly, a lot of gays are that way. Dresses are just one way to express your fashion sense.
While I live in a family with 2 homosexuals, I've never had attraction to males. I've been misunderstood as gay by a lot of people in my past, though. Because I'm not hard enough? I'm not a normal crossdresser either. I really don't fit in here at all. I did, for a time, wonder whether I had attraction to males. I think that ... while I am not attracted to their body ... i think love can exist independent of sexual attraction. And my sexual attraction to fine clothing is proof to me that sexual attraction is probably influenced by cultural and environmental factors. It's not absolute, but probably set at a young age.
I am a Lesbian, but too broke to have a date & guts to ask :(
Haha! Always good to see a witty forum. :-)Quote:
Originally Posted by Denise Rhodes
Now thats quite a question... Interesting to see the replies. Quite diverse!
It seems to me that the femininity inside us seems to have its own separate desires and wants alot of the time. Not a split personality as such...but definitely some sort of partition.
EllieOPKS's sentence; "...I kinda feel like its a transformation when I dress like a girl, I will totally act like one." fits me quite well. I'm visually attracted to girls & I like being the dominant one with them. But when I'm feeling girlie - that polarity reverses completely & I find myself wanting to be dominated & treated delicately by a guy. Increasingly I fantasise about wanting to please a guy too. I have sexual feelings about this but its a totally different feeling then when feeling excited about girls.
I think best way to describe this is I'm a guy from the wasit downwards & a girl from the waist up... & I know that makes no sense!
Perhaps its just fantasies where we/I just imagine what it might be like for a girl, based on our pre-conceptions & what society teaches us etc. However... I need some definite answers now... so I hear the ominous words "go experiment!"
looming over the horizon. Anyone else in a similar puzzle of sexual sudoku? lol.
Lesbian right here...
As a guy I am only interested in woman, but when I dress I consider myself 100% female(even if I do not pass all the time).
So when I am dressed I get so excited and horny for a man. And trying to say this without sounding defensive and to answer the questions above, I do not at all believe it is a "homosexual tendency" or anything like that. I am very open and free with my sexuality in any mode I dress but I just flat out don't enjoy being with a man when I am a man.
The fun, the fantasy, the excitement for me IS the fact I am dressed. I really do want to be the girl in form and treatment. Having some big guy come in and swoop me up is a dream come true.
I have been with a few guys when dressed and I enjoyed them all for the most part. It was more fun than I ever imaged, and when I am with them I demand to be only treated like a girl, aka no touching my...well you get it. But everything else is open game.
First, It's interesting to read all of your collective opinions and, in some cases fantasies about how it might feel to be with a man. I myself have never been with a man and I know I never will be.
Having said that, for the past two years I have been in a relationship with a woman who, from my perspective, "bedded" me as a man would a woman. My story is somewhat different than most here I grant you as this particular woman also brought me out, dressed me, made me up, pushed me out the door into the real world and I have been living part of my life that way ever since.
I suspect that my developmental path points to transexuality. I know that inside, a large part of who I really am is female...perhaps more than I care to admit but imagine if you can a complete role reversal where the person standing in front of you is of the opposite sex genetically, and prefers you in lingerie, heels and fully made up.
It sounds wonderful I know and on many levels it is very much so. On still another level however, it becomes complicated, it changes the entire dynamic of a relationship and not always for the better.
Best wishes
You know what,I don't think I'd wanna be a girl with a girl.I like to be a man with a girl
I'd still like to be a girl with a man though..hmm does that make sense lol :)
I live most of my day as Liza. all I want is to go out and find a man to date. Humm can't think of any other reason to ...
Liza
About as much sense as the rest of this life, so I wouldn't be too concerned :heehee:Quote:
Originally Posted by joannemarie barker
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Kel
Since childhood i did wish to be a girl. I like to be girly always and be among girls always.Since then i dress up as a girl and tend to behave as a girl. I started to figure my body as a girl. I wish i was born as i girl. I only feel comfortable and cozy when i am dressed up as a hot girl. I like the tension of my Bra and Panties. I like to be in my black erotic lingeire and fishnet stockings with suspenders always. I love to have pink lipglows,eyeshadows and nail polish in my long nails. I love to use rose blushers always.I love to have long glossy black hair that touches my butt. I love to in black killer heels and white mini skirts. I love the stockings being tight to my skin. It makes me feel very proud that I am a girl now. I like the crowd admiring my sexy body. I like to walk in the streets as a hot sexy girl and like guys admiring my beauty. One day I would love to be a hot sexy dancer at a night club. I would love to get married to a guy who will love me as his dear wife and treat me soft. I would love to be a happy married wife for life. I wish to be a house wife serving my husband all time. Every night when my husband comes back home, I like to lie on his chest and relax. I love to be taken for a date and treated romantic.
I am dreaming of a day when turn myself into a complete girl and guys take me for date and treat me so girly.
I love dating guys and never ever miss a chance
I never think about dating guys.
I would like to go places En Femme with my wife or another GG.
I had a special occasion make up session at Sephora at the suggestion of a female friend and met her there En Femme. After she waited with me while I was being made up we walked the mall just for fun.
Suzi Q
I dont want date guys anymore:doh:..what I really want is to marry one:daydreaming:
"If a cucumber to take out the garbage....."
That's the main reason I CD and I really enjoy my very naughty femme side and so does my partner(s).
Look as a woman I know it must disappoint you knowing that most CDs eventually want to be with us men. You might have feelings of jealousy and insecurity knowing your husband is attracted to masculine, strong and handsome men while en femme. That is why I would advice you to date a traditional man.Quote:
Originally Posted by ReineD
Being with a man is the CDs ultimate fantasy. Men have been conditioned to be very masculine and embracing their feminine side takes time. That is why they first start out trying moms panties in secret, work their way to her hose, then her heels, eventually developing the courage to go in public and buy their own lingerie etc... As they gain more comfort with their feminine identity they will explore deeper into the feminine world. Being with a man is the ultimate act of femininity. To be acknowledged and loved as a woman completes her feminine transformation.
They dream of a handsome prince fawning over her while she is dressed in a beautiful wedding gown and get a tingly feeling as he dives under to remove her garter belt. They love to be held in our muscular arms, to feel safe and protected by her knight in shining armor. To look up into his eyes and be ravaged by his passionate kisses. They feel so feminine knowing they are driving the young buck wild. They most of all love being intimate with a man. This makes her a real woman.
And you Barbara would make a lovely Bride, all dressed in white.Quote:
Originally Posted by BARBARA_MELENDEZ
There are lots of *real women* (lesbians) who don't necessarily fit the criteria you listed.Quote:
Originally Posted by seanmuscle
Ever try putting on a pair of heels and a skirt? Takes a real man to do that.
Guessing you probably aren't up for that, though.
been with 2 men and loved it
Thanks for tallying all that up:).Quote:
Originally Posted by ReineD
I found another informal survey with a much larger sample size done in 1999
http://www.yvonnesplace.net/survey/s.../sexuality.htm
Of course, both of these studies have severe limitations, for taking a survey from crossdressers who are active on online communities present bias. While there are limitations, th
According to the above link, looks like only 11.3% have dated men while en femme. So essentially, while a lot of CD's may fantasize about dating a man, a small, but somewhat significant number, actually do go through with it.
Of course, we all must realize that these surveys are far from scientific, for these samples are far from random. Still, these studies are illuminating, especially due to the fact that there seems to be so few studies.
being a girl i can be more trendy and hot. i love to be a girl and be treated so by a guy. that makes me feel a complete women.
I'm with a man now, he's 25 years older than me and I love it.
I love being with older men as well.:battingeyelashes::battingeyelashes::battinge yelashes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Cassandra
Agree 100%Quote:
Originally Posted by Megan70
NEVER crossed their minds? NEVER? really? If they say so:brolleyes:
That's a rather broad statement. As with most generalizations it falls flat though. While some Crossdressers do, any statement that says all, is almost always false. Life just isn't that black and white. Even perusing this thread shows the large gray area, and a number of crossdressers that simply don't fit into that pigeon hole.Quote:
Originally Posted by seanmuscle
But, Sean never said "all", did he?
His second paragraph, it would be inferred. Just saying "most" in the first paragraph is overshadowed by the inferences below it. In other words the word "most" in the paragraph is a technicality over the broader statements below.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sophie_C
But even with the statement "most" it's still a very broad brush stroke, that I still don't necessarily see any evidence to support.
I am mtf 25 living full time and I have to say after dating a couple of men I don't sleep as well at night when I am single (like I am now). There is just something about being with a man that makes me feel safe and secure. Like nothing will ever happen to me as long as he is here. If something does happen when he isn't there I know all I have to do is make a phone call and he will come take care of it. <3 men!
Oh yes, I was getting a haircut and my barber (who was getting into the gay life) was hinting around about me coming over. So I told him it was a real turn-on for me to CD and he said no problem. As I was dressing that evening to go over his house the excitement was like going on a first date. After shaving 100% I slipped into a pair of black nylon panties with white lace trim, a matching black bra and my D breast forms, black straight skirt, black sweater and 4" pumps. Make-up, wig and perfume completed the transformation. It felt sooo feminine walking in heels, skirt and the weight and jiggle of my breasts. After a little chit-chat we went into his bedroom and when I took off my skirt and sweater I could see what he saw really turned him on. While performing as a woman with bra and panties still on I felt 100% female. It was the best of the best. It took cding to a whole new high. After a couple of hours I got dressed, freshened my makeup and drove home. Trust me, the enjoyment and fullfillment of the whole evening just blew the top off the thermomenter.
I will not apologize for saying most. It is quite evident here that many CDs have fantasies about men and/or have slept with men. Like I said because there is social stigma with being a CD there are often feelings of guilt and shame so it is a process that occurs over time as CDs become more comfortable and accepting of their feminine side. Being with a man is the one the most girly feelings a CD can experience. You can see how many CDs actually think like genetic women. They love to feel safe and protected in a strong mans arms and to be the woman making love to a man.Quote:
Originally Posted by JodyCD
For all those CDs out there, stockings, heels and garter belts drive men nuts. Especially toped off with lace panties and a frilly feminine blouse.
But I don't think I could ever do anything with a guy. I love women too much, lol
I started dressing first, then fantisizing about going out dressed then went out dressed then started thinking about meeting other cd's for dressing sessions then those thoughts went to more than just dressing. then started thinking about going out wth a man with me dressed. It always has to be dressed though, I do not think of dating men as a man. So i have had 1 experience with a CD, still trying to figure that one out. It was one night and that is not what I had imangined.
What i find the most appealling is spending time with other cross dressers who are curious and feel our way into what feels good.
So to answer the question for me I am interseted in other cd's, how ever aftergoing through this long thread i do not think that any body can be wrong.
Dee anne
Well, the title says it all...
Joke aside, I think I am also a lesbian in that regard. I don't quite feel like dating men...