However, I agree ENTIRELY that that is the GOAL we should ALL be reaching for within ourselves!:thumbsup:Quote:
Originally Posted by Tracy_Victoria
I simply HATE, HATE!:Angry3: Especially, when I feel it within ME!:doh:
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However, I agree ENTIRELY that that is the GOAL we should ALL be reaching for within ourselves!:thumbsup:Quote:
Originally Posted by Tracy_Victoria
I simply HATE, HATE!:Angry3: Especially, when I feel it within ME!:doh:
Because personally before I walk out the door dressed I realize that there will be some who who will not accept me regardless of how well I dress or not...and to those who present this opinion I simple say to them "I don't care (i.e. give a rat's a$$) to what they think simply because I am going to go out and do what I want to do and not be governed by other's points of views opinions or whatever...I'll decide what is best for me and not what others think is best for me...Quote:
I think you need to relook at what you've posted here, and consider if you can not accpet this guys way off dressing, why should others accept yours!!!
I'll try and present myself as best as I can as feminine as possible abet I know I'll never be truly convincing...but everyone will see that I A) take pride in my appearence B) do so with style and class...beyond that they can kiss my white Irish *** if they don't like it...
If they accept me that's fine and if they don't simply don't have anything to do with me and that's fine as well...I've spent an adult life being involved in controversy both public as well as private and at times very intense so I've developed a rather thick skin and to some a severe chip on my shoulder...but I've also had to stand up for what sometimes some felt wasn't "right"...just as most don't think dressing isn't right...so I will defend anyone's right to to dress any way they want....but will I not look at people in different ways and be approving or not approving??? Sure...jut like some here think I'm wrong to express my views....I respect the fact that your free to feel that way and sI would much prefer and respect each and everyone of you for being open and honest....but it will not change the way I view other's who dress...I will respect those who try to look the best they can...those who impact on us negitively ..we'll I hope their happy and I wish them well...but am I going to be approving??? Ah, don't think so...that's just me...love me or hate me that's their choice and they are free to make that...that's their right and I respect that...
Interesting thread. I am on the side of let others be themselves however they want to dress and act. That does not mean I want to be personally involved with that other person. I will and do seek out others similar to myself with enough differences to keep it all interesting.
I totally disagree that a guy in a dress with a mustache is going to bring down the world on all of us poor CDers (OK maybe not the world, but mar our reputation and how people may view us). I actually think just the opposite. Since most people feel comfortable around the center of things, issues and life, and are not out there to make a statement or actively join a cause, we need those at the extreme ends of the spectrum, including if they are on the other side of center than we are. Why? It actually helps broaden the knowledge and experience of that very large center group. With knowledge comes better understanding, and with better understanding comes more acceptance of the others viewpoint.
A personal experience from being fortunate enough to live in the San Francisco area: I have seen several men (unfortunately no women yet) who like to walk around basically nude in public. They walk in Pride parades, around college campuses, and even into bars and small stores and coffee shops. Yes, it is strange experience to see someone do that. I wouldn't do that. In a favorite wine bar of mine, there was one man that came in wearing shoes, a hat and nothing else. Yeah, it was kinda gross. He not only came in, but stayed there at the bar for a while with a drink. Everyone looked at him and talked among themselves and then just ignored him. Being me and curious as always, I went up and talked with to him. He was OK actually (to talk with), I asked him why, and he said because he liked to do it. Gee, that sounds like about 80% of the people here (20% for the TS's +/-), including myself.
Do I think that he and others like him gave us, the rest of the human race and citizens, and the non-citizens too, a bad name? No, not at all. He made me, a CD, look exceptionally well that night dressed in my presentable way and probably opened more doors for me than I could ever do.
So, yes Stephanie, we all can defend the rights of others and we all can have our own opinions about it, like you and I. However, I just think that the person you saw did not hurt you nor your cause (our cause too) in any way, and should be given a lot more slack.
Maybe that guy thought the same?Quote:
Originally Posted by Sherry-Stephanie
Maybe he thought the very same thing?Quote:
Originally Posted by Sherry-Stephanie
What I'm trying to say Sherry, is that no matter how good, or bad, or how weird or stupid some one looks, is it not the case that we should respect that desire to be different, over look down on them. but for views like these, it would be much easier for all the people in the world, be they fat, thin, short or tall, black or white, and even crossdressers with a moustache!
Sadly a lot a people do feel like that, about you, me, crossdressers, gay's race, size, smoking, etc!Quote:
Originally Posted by Sherry-Stephanie
yeah, i don't care all that much if someone is passable, but a mustache, or any kind of facial hair/sideburns just defeats the purpose.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sherry-Stephanie
This thread annoys me... that is all :p
What i hate is other Tgirls putting other girls down, a lot of them try there best with what they have and some are less fortunate than ourselves, and some feel comfortable in other ways, we get judged enough as it is!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Sherry-Stephanie
Reach out to a fellow Tgirl and get to know them and maybe give them a few tips or two and then who knows you may find a new friend, but talking about them behind there backs is not nice!
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Originally Posted by Tracy_Victoria
I couldn't have said it better myself.
I can't believe that that the OP even posted such a remark after all the acceptance threads that come up on these boards regularly...Non-acceptance has to be the number one bitch on this site.
The purpose being? Your idea of how someone should look?Quote:
Originally Posted by dragdoll
Especially when all the other ducks in the same pond can do is point and :heehee:Quote:
Originally Posted by Sherry-Stephanie
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The purpose of what?????Quote:
Originally Posted by dragdoll
Last time I checked the dictionary, the basic muddy water definition of a "cross dresser" is someone who wears the CLOTHES of the opposite sex.
I don't ever remember seeing anything about breasts, hair, makeup, or lack of certain body hair being a requirement.
He obviously has brass balls and a I don't give a Frack attitude to be out in a dress and moustache.
[SIZE="3"]And isn't attitude 99.95% of passing anyway??[/SIZE] :lol2:
Or so I have read "somewhere" ?? :battingeyelashes:
For some insight. Until recently, I was dressing with a moustache. I choose to be closeted because of that. If I go out, I don't want to stand out. But, there are many on this board that go out with facial hair. Some are partial dressers and some are full dressers. The main point if to do what makes you happy and enjoy life being who you are. If you look at it that way, acceptance of anyone comes so much easier.Quote:
Originally Posted by dragdoll
No, you didn't! :heehee:Quote:
Originally Posted by SamanthaM
This thread is now done .. for the reason that the subject matter has been covered...