Ay? I'm just expressing what's within me, nothing more and nothing less. I do make a far more attractive woman than man though.
Ay? I'm just expressing what's within me, nothing more and nothing less. I do make a far more attractive woman than man though.
Well, I might make an attractive man, but my subconcious actions speak otherwise. If I couldn't find a woman attracted to me as a man, why should I present as a man?
Dee
I feel just the opposite.
I've been told that I look better as a woman. Which tells you how ugly I must be as a guy! :brokenheart::Pullhair::wall:
Allright how do I get to be this attractive man. Heck I'm ugly all around!!!
Although I am probably more attractive as a male, the complements I receive as a female mean SO much more to me. I think that explains, at least in part, why I do it!
as a man, I have been told that I am good looking.
but I would rather be a cute woman....???...
I am stranger than fiction.
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Reading the first post, I think to myself, "Why have it one way or the other?" Shows you how my brain works. I love looking good in men's clothing (I'm told I look damned dashing in mah suit), and have plenty of narcissistic moments while in guy-mode. And yet, there are just times where getting all femme-ed up to look/feel pretty is all I think about. So really, all it depends on, for me, is whatever mood I'm in at the moment. I quite enjoy both the genders that reside in my brain.
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Originally Posted by docrobbysherry
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Originally Posted by Stephenie S
Dear Doc (and all you others),
The FACT is that women come in ALL shapes and sizes, just like men. There are fat women, thin women, beautiful women, ugly women, handsome women, plain women, short women, tall women, women with broad shoulders, women with little boobs, women with narrow hips and no butt, and women with big hands and feet.
You are totally right. But when you have broad shoulders AND no boobs AND narrow hips AND no butt AND big hands and feet AND manly face AND adam apple AND deep voice AND big muscles, it's a bit different...
OK, sweetie. A bit different than what? Are you pressing me to get personal? 'Cause I will.
I am a tall women with broad shoulders, little boobies, no waist, no hip or butt, and big hands and feet. I do just fine, thank you very much. I resent the implication that I am somehow less a woman just because I don't look like Barbie. I do my best with what I got. I wear big shirts a lot to try and minimise the fact I have no junk in my trunk. I wear bosom revealing tops to try and emphasize what little I have up there. I NEVER wear heels as I have no desire to tower over others in the room. I do have rather masculine features. Can't do much about that now can I? I smile alot because that gives me a bit more pleasant aspect. I have a really good hair style. I am always well groomed.
I do my best with what I got, thank you. If you want to present to the world as a woman, you had best do the same instead of complaining about what you do have.
Lovies,
Stephenie
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Originally Posted by Stephenie S
Yes, I was getting personal. But about MYSELF. I have all these traits and that's just how I feel.
I'm not complaining. I'm accepting.
And so what if I were complaining? Can't I complain about what I have in this forum? If this were true, many threads would be already closed.
Tina has existed for just over 4 years. In all that time we never once thought about aesthetics. Ok ok Tina's gf thinks she has drop-dead gorgeous legs, and that's what precipitated Tina's arrival. However, the focus shifted quickly to the identification of a feminine self and a masculine self. The masculine self knows physically what he is but the feminine self needed to, effectively, go through the adolescence that all girls do in terms of socialization: i.e. how to "be" a girl. Part of that process IS physical as in clothes, makeup, hair, and comportment.
The goal was to learn to think about one's presentation to project the idea of "feminine". Part of that goal is focussing on changing how one takes care of one's face and learning about toner and moisturizer and primer and foundation and concealer and powder and rouge and the quagmire of eye makeup. All of this surely ties into the notion of "beauty" but the real goal is feminine. Given that, the comparison of "beauty" in the feminine sense, and "handsome" in the masculine sense isn't an issue.
at least for me :)
tina
Attractive male, unattractive male, attractive female (impersonator), "ugly woman". I have been all. Mostly it depends on how hard I want to work at it and usually I am lazy and I just do the least I need at that moment. But as I have said before if I am going out dressed I want to be noticed, sooooo I take the time. Which of course means I, like 90% of GG's, don't go all out just to go to the store or mow the lawn. It does not mean I feel any different. Somehow in my mind I always look pretty as a female and rather dull as a male. In either mode I can be like honey or vinegar.
But this is a good point on why I would not personally transition at my age. Looks are very important in the world for women. It is still a societal problem to look upon an older woman as not being attractive but ignore that men of the same age are far less attractive also (except when wrapped in a convertible) yet still hold some power. Look at the last year in the political world and the older men who somehow manipulated women into their lair. Most of the men were not drop dead gorgeous. Maybe it is perceived power. And maybe I am just enough XY to want the power. Of course there are exceptions to the above. Sophia Loren is still drop dead gorgeous.
Dear Petite,
Yes, you do have a right to complain. Sorry, I didn't mean to imply that you did not.
I just feel that those characteristics should not become a stumbling block to presenting as a woman. It was the implication that I couldn't be a woman if I had all those "male" markers, which I do. I have them all, and I do just fine. In fact, a woman I work with has all those male markers PLUS problems with facial hair and SHE doen't ever worry about "passing".
I realize how you feel is truth to you, as it is to everyone. Sorry I got a bit grumpy there.
Lovies,
Stephenie
Don't worry Stephenie :hugs:
I understand that these topics are very personal for most of us.
And I actually don't imply that other girls with male traits can't pass or that they look bad. Maybe I'm harder on myself than with others, but some here look wonderful despite having evident masculine characteristics. It's just that when I see all these features on myself, I just don't look as girly as I used to feel once upon a time, and it has led me to stop dressing.
Maybe I used to live in the pink fog, and perhaps scrutinizing myself in the mirror dissipated it a bit. But again, it's just me :battingeyelashes:
I think you may be touching on the point of my post. You will NEVER look "girly". It just ain't gonna happen. But you CAN look WOMANLY. There is a difference.
Auntie Stephenie
I honestly like both. I have a manly side that I spend most of my day as: going to work, being a good husband, etc. But I also have that artistic, emotional, "weird" side of me that just wants to dress up as a woman and go nuts!
I went to a prom party single and dressed up, and LOVED it. I was the center of attention: everyone wanted a picture, guys came up to get photos grabbing my boobs, girls wanted to adjust my dress and hair, etc. I'm normally a shy guy, but for a night I got to go nuts and have fun.
I wouldn't do it all the time. My calm demeanor is good for most situations. But the opportunity to look, or even be, female for a short period of time is great. I wouldn't want to turn that away, even if I couldn't completely pass.
I dunno; I think I look damn good as a "femulator." And, oddly enough, it's given me some more confidence about my male appearance. As Veronica Moonlit likes to say, makeup has a magic all its own.
Because we're crossdressers?
I resemble that statement, except for the attractive man part. I do this because I really like the way it makes me feel, not necessarily the way it makes me look. Oh I do look in the mirror to make sure I've done as good a job as possible, given the resources and raw materials, but regardless of the result on the outside, my insides are happier.
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