Babies Are Not Us :(

I have 3 children and I can't say that I would actually want to carry and birth a child. My wife had very difficult pregnancies and births so maybe that spoiled me on the idea. I know it's the miracle of life and some women really connect and love being pregnant, but some don't. I'd probably fall into the "don't" category, lol. But then again, maybe I wouldn't.

If it was possible, I'd probably have to do it just to see what it's really like :D

I have said on this forum and elsewhere that every part of being a woman is attractive to me. From the time I read my sister's "Now you are a woman" at an ealy age(8), I have been fascinated with every aspect of women's lives and wished for the chance to experience them all.

I thought in my thirties that I would change over if I could have the whole thing. But by that time I had two sons and would have had a hard time leaving them to follow the TS dream. There were reasons to believe that I would have lost them and all contact with other family if I had so it become impractical to think about it. The other factor was that childbirth would not have been possible and parenting was important to me.

I have been able to do SOME other things to compensate as a parent with my sons and in taking traditionally feminine roles at home but it isn't quite the same, obviously

Thanks, but no thanks.

When I was a teenager, I remember telling people that I didn't think I'd ever want kids. They'd always tell me, "Just wait. As you get older, you'll change your mind." Well, 20+ years later, I don't want kids any more now than I did then. For me, it's not a question of gender- it's just my personal preference.

A good friend of mine --A guy btw...said something many years ago to me..

He was a very wealthy banker, he flew a plane, he climbed mountains, he worked as a street performer...IN SWEDEN!!, he wrote a book, etc etc....
he was truly an amazing achiever..

anyway, my wife was pregnant and we were talking and he said something i would paraphrase as follows..

"my whole life I was searching...i didnt realize it but I kept looking for the next thing...something to give me that feeling that I want as a person but I couldnt seem to get in my life...then elizabeth was born(his first daughter) and I held her in my arms after her first breath and I looked at her and I knew that she what I was looking for. It overwhelmed me and transcended everything before it"

I never forgot that, and I felt exactly the same way when my daughter was born...

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Originally Posted by Lorileah

nope. I didn't want any as a male, not gonna say I would as female. Nope. In fact when asked if I would have children I always ask, depends on how they are prepared. I like other peoples children, sorta like I like Disneyland. It is fun for awhile but I don't want to live there

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Let me know if you need to do the "Disneyland" thing. I have four (three in the house one in college) and I am sure they would love hanging out in Denver with you for a week or two.

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Originally Posted by TerryTerri

I feel (and think) that, the dad!, can be as nurturing as the mom. I'm a dad of 3 kids. A 12 year old girl (from 1 marriage) and 7 & 5 year old boys (from my current marriage that is soon to be over). It definitely changes when it is your own kids. I was 37 when my daughter was born and being older helps me be a better parent because I have more patience and many other traits older adults usually have over younger adults that help them be better parents (except energy).

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Terri call me geriatric, but I have to disagree. I have four wonderful kids. When I was younger I had boundless energy for my children. I could sit on the floor and play Barbies or Toy Soldiers with them for hours. Now I find myself with much less patience for the never ending enthusiasm exuded by a 7 year old. As I have become older and the responsibilities of life demand more of my energy I find that it is more difficult to share what energy is left with my youngest. I will always give him my all but it takes a lot more effort now that I am older. Maybe it is just because I have been a parent from the age of 22 and they are sapping the life out of me! :heehee:

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Originally Posted by Kaitlyn Michele

A good friend of mine --A guy btw...said something many years ago to me..

He was a very wealthy banker, he flew a plane, he climbed mountains, he worked as a street performer...IN SWEDEN!!, he wrote a book, etc etc....
he was truly an amazing achiever..

anyway, my wife was pregnant and we were talking and he said something i would paraphrase as follows..

"my whole life I was searching...i didnt realize it but I kept looking for the next thing...something to give me that feeling that I want as a person but I couldnt seem to get in my life...then elizabeth was born(his first daughter) and I held her in my arms after her first breath and I looked at her and I knew that she what I was looking for. It overwhelmed me and transcended everything before it"

I never forgot that, and I felt exactly the same way when my daughter was born...

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That is why I ask the question. The four moments that I will remember first as my life flashes before my eyes on my death bed will be the moments that I first held each of my children. Life had no greater meaning than at that moment. However, picture what that feeling is like after you have carried that child in you for nine months and the Doctor places him or her in your arms.

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Originally Posted by SuzanneBender

Let me know if you need to do the "Disneyland" thing. I have four (three in the house one in college) and I am sure they would love hanging out in Denver with you for a week or two.

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I see the Von Trapp family like ducks in a row all marching in line to see the museum...don't touch don't move, don't speak. They would have you on speed dial in an hour :) Ms Bender Ms Suzanne Bender white courtesy telephone. You wouldn't make it to the TSA check before they called you back:devil:

I have always loved kids. I always wanted kids. But I never had any of my own. I know that I always felt very envious of friends that became pregnant. I always felt some kind of a special bond with them, somehow. It is hard for me to explain. My answer is YES. I think it would be a wonderful experience.

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Originally Posted by kellycan27

Yes...In a heartbeat!

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hell id do it just so i could justify thefact thati look 6 months along as it is...

Hi.
This all so depends on how we are wired . & the saying what will be will be .
For me this has been the case . after Jos & i had our there kids . we tryed again some time after . after two ops . we were at that stage of having an other child . then a miscarrage . i could not say any thing about it as it cut us up real bad . after Jos knew we would not be able to have any more .so after a time .

Jos turned to me & said . ...YOU .. can have the next one . i looked at her & said I will . little did Jos know how deep that hit me . of cause she knows me as a woman .. now . just took a long time . to understand . we have three grown up kids . 30 to 35 . & 7 grand kids .
So haveing said i would . Kaylyn had Dejarn 7 years ago . what Kaylyn does not know . & only women will know what i m saying is she Dejarn is mine .. as to i had & gave birth to her even if Kaylyn gave birth .
Dejarn is so close to me . even closer than our kids .
Women who i talk to know this . that this part of me is the women who i am . as said how i m wired . as a woman . even if i am not a compleat woman .its that. not having your womb . that does not stop us from being women . so yes most deffiently ...YES...words dont convey my inner most thought s about this .
Hard work for Jos in the begining . yes . & after 30 years it still is with our daughter Kaylyn . & to look back yes it is right . what we did .

...noeleena...

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Originally Posted by SuzanneBender

I must give credit where credit is due. RenieD posts some of the most thought provoking comments on this site. Her GG perspective in contrast to our TG ways always makes me think, often makes me smile and sometimes even causes a tear to come to my eye.

She posted this in an earlier thread:

I was thinking about watching the Mom on the plane last week wrestling as only a mother could with her cute little girl and little boy. I think about all of the times that I have watched mothers look into their baby’s eyes and connect in a way that only a mother can connect. I am a father and have a wonderful relationship with my children. I consider myself very nurturing, but I can never even aspire to the level of nurturing that my wife shows our children. I must admit I am envious. I wish I could know the joy of the miracle of a life growing within you and the connection with the child that comes with that. I know it will never happen and that I shouldn't lament things that will never happen. I also know that pregnancy and motherhood are far from being all peaches and cream, but if I could I would do it tomorrow! Would you?

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I wouldnt even bat an eye.. Of course I would.. That would be incredible.. My wife couldnt have children.. She was able to get pregnant, bout would always miscarry.. We have adopted 3 wonderful children, but both of us would love to know that... I always wanted to try to get them to transplant a uterus into me, and let me carry it.. alas, they aint got that one figured out yet.. ;)

Would I bear young if I could... no way, never, not for any amount of money, "I won't and you can't make me!!"

Definitely NOT! I have had enough raising my three boys. I am done and want nothing to do with more babies. Whether I carry them or not.

maybe a light at the end of the tunnel for those who said yes

http://www.dallasvoice.com/artman/pu...icle_12349.php

OH Hell NO not me I hate pain and I have raised my children I need Staci time but not Prego Staci...

One of life's mysteries that eludes men, thank God for we are from a planet that rhythms with lackofbrainus.

It is always harder to create than destroy, thank goodness women are better at making life than men are at taking it away.