Not at all .. but if at least someone interesting find me attractive its enough for me:battingeyelashes:
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Not at all .. but if at least someone interesting find me attractive its enough for me:battingeyelashes:
I've been told by many women that I'm very passable....Being 6 ft tall + heel with very long hair, heads turn.... But I need proper make-up!
But I'm also like you, e.g. my voice is giving me away...unfortunately.
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Id venture to say im about 40% passable in the daylight at a distance more then 20 feet and 60ish at night time in 10 feet "unless i speak" I have that deep man voice that i have yet to shake,and of course i have not gone out save for halloween 10 years ago. I did learn basic sign "abc's" how ever not many people know sign so till i ditch the voice "an family woe's "mother sister brother" ill stay in my closet with my wife and be as happy as i can
I'm with Ms Melendez, though I find her pics to be very striking.Quote:
Originally Posted by BARBARA_MELENDEZ
My goals are to pass as a woman from a distance, and as a smokin' hot tranny up close. I believe these goals to be achievable if I keep pushing.
My dream is to pass like Kellycan, but that boat has already chugged out of the harbor. :daydreaming:
-Misty
Not very. But it depends on how I am dressed. Sometimes people stare their eyes out, especially women. Other times people hardly notice anything me. So it's not easy to say why and what is what. But it's very rare people laugh. So I think I look fine. But probably special(a bit tall). Not sure, never really asked. Sometimes cars honk their horns, sometimes women stop me and say I look great(that's on the staring days) and guys talk to me from behind, telling me to use more clothes since it is cold.
It's all quite confusing. A thing in between is what I like the best. Some attention, and that people smile to me. That makes me more secure.
I dont pass,but the difference now is that I dont tear myself up about it,when I started going out I wanted so much to pass,but over time I have realised that its not(or shouldn't be) the be all and end all.
I do think a positive attitude and confidence,helps you in public though,as well as dressing appropriate,though whats appropriate these days,when to be seen in a skirt is a sure sign your TV lol.
I rarely get any trouble,a few looks obviously,but thats to be expected,its not as if every 2nd person somone sees is TV so its only natural to stare,but most people are in hurry to be getting to where they are going to hang around to abuse you.
I only really get upset when am with my wife,im so proud being out with her so I dont like her hearing anything negative.Regardless wether you pass or not.its still the same have fun,but be careful
i think i do if u look at my pixs lots of people have told me i look good but when i talk im outed instantly other than that i havent realy been asking people if they see a gurl or guy the one time i did go out into the store at night with my wife i didnt see anyone do a double take or nothing and the greater said have a nice night ladies so i dont know i guess i doo
I am work in progress. Hopefully one day I will be more passable than I am today.
I have seen a lot of pictures of several T-girls over a period of time and with practice we do get closer. That's the way I want to be.
Eyebrows and my wig getting in bad shape, despite being recently brushed out. God damn, wigs get ragged fast. I need to grow my hair out.
I don't think I can be. So my goal is simply to fly under the radar. Nothing out of the ordinary and nothing out of place.
This passable thing comes up allot and I will tell you 99% of us don't pass in the traditional sense!
If you have an avatar that is obscured or not showing your face or a graphic I assume you don't pass. That does not mean you cant pass I just assume you don't, if you could you would show it. So you say "I do pass" but due to being outed I cannot, also says I have never been out of the house dressed.
I don't pass in my opinion, but see my profile pictures, who cares! I only get one life!
So who will get more nasty looks at the local Wal-Mart? The extremely hefty GG or you? This assuming you are not equally over weight.
I look at life as most women I see out in public don't pass as they look like crud. Because we like to dress better than most genetic women gives us away. Most of us feel like an 18 year old girl in our mental female development, noted by how an 18 year old dresses. You may be in your 30's but emotionally in your experiences and finding yourself you are much younger as you missed out on this step as a kid. Like figuring out what size you are, that is something girls learn in there younger years, we are doing it now!
Either Way, Have fun and good luck
I dunno. I tend to not use avatar pictures. Just sometimes. It's more of an emotional thing then anything else. Not sure avatar pictures says all that much, unless it's clinically done. Like a police photography. People look different. Often people look far better irl. I don't use wigs, probably easier if I did.Quote:
Originally Posted by christinek
For me it's a bit weird, since I got a good angle and a bad angle. So staying in my good angle, I think I'm fine. Unfortunately the opposite is true from the bad angle.
I have never heard any critical comments from anyone in the 8 years I have lived in this house. (But then, I do live alone,) so ...maybe there is a correlative relationship there, eh? :battingeyelashes:
"Passing" has a lot to do with the circumstances and location when you are in public. Feminine appropriate mannerisms and motor movements, as well as controlling the transmission and meaning of non-verbal cues can make a major difference in your success in "blending in".
I am pretty proficient in going "unnoticed", whether I am dressed or not . I have always received positive approaches by email, etc. from strangers on a regular basis.
Ultimately, I know I can go unnoticed, I have done it in public a few times dressed. (covert business activity).
But in the end the physical passability questions are always.....
"beauty as seen through the eyes of the "beer-holder". lol
I am lucky to have a live-in coach :) My SO reminds me if I lapse into guy mannerisms (the way I stand/walk/sit/eat) - not in a cruel way but with a nudge. But I never worry if i "pass" ... I just am grateful I am and have been accepted and treated as a woman and with my friends as "one of the girls".
I am sure that at times people will "see" my origins ... but as they dont tell me or treat me negatively ... I am blissfully unaware.
If it's a typically low light nightclub, then yes. In broad daylight, no. One funny thing that happened. I was out with a TS friend at a party when she left to say hello to some guy she knew. She came back told me the guy said, " Please tell me that gorgeous blonde is not one of you". But again, it was a dark nightclub. lol
My wife told me the other day that if she did not know who I was, that I would pass. One thing I am working on is the voice. I have been to Walmart and to a restaurant to be forced to interact with the help. I think I'm getting better at it.
I think a key is, blend in. Don't dress in an outrageous way so as to draw attention to yourself. Think of how other GG's dress when out shopping, at the grocery store, mall, etc. If you go out flashing a corset, letting your lace thigh-highs show and 5" stilletos, you're just asking for it.
Be fashionable, walk tall, think about body language. Be confident, a little smile on the face. Don't avoid looking people in the eys. Take the initiative to say "Hello!" to someone. What's the worst that could happen? Really nothing in the grand scheme of things.
There are great videos on Youtube on male to female voice training. Just put that into the search at the top of the Youtube page and you will get some good stuff. The best is by an Asian girl who, to show her progress, goes back and forth between her female and male voice. She is really good!!!
Mackenzie
I've never been out so I have never been in a situation where I could pass or not.
However Mackenzie's mentioning female voice training reminded me of an episode where I "passed" as a woman without even trying to. I was in drab and about to have a night out with some friends. I called a taxi to get there and when it came the driver was surprised to see that I was a man. I guess I must have sounded female on the phone without even thinking about it :laughing:
My wife and I both know I would never pass. I think she finds some comfort in that. However, I've never given much thought to how people view me. How that reflects on her, though, when she's with me - that's different.
I have tons of dreams in which I'm out and about - but although I've never been out in daylight dressed (used to take a few late night walks in deserted streets), the only particularly masculine thing I think I show is my hated facial hair (grew it 15 years ago to look older and more "manly" - how ironic).
I'm freakishly tall but that doesn't prohibit anything :)
Passable not passable... I agree it really shouldn't matter and that if you hold your head up high and be proud of yourself, you'll be accepted regardless.
Just the same I myself tend to worry about whether I am passable or not, and leads me to buying clothes that make me look good,a nd applying the makeup right, etc. Still the most important variable seems to be the attitude and the smile.
I have been out at T-girl get togthers and one might think having a guy tell you that you are so passable, would be a nice compliment... but those guys that hang out with T-girls seem to know the right things that we want to hear, so I chalk it up to unimportant.
If a stranger came up to me and told me I was passable, well that would mean I wasn't. And the only one that knows me as a guy and a girl is my SO and she says I look like a guy in a dress. Which is what I used to see in the mirror myself. I think partly this is how others are used to perceiving me, and partly the fact is that I am a guy in a dress. :daydreaming: oh if only I could just trade bodies with my SO, that would be even more fun than dressing up.
Keep Smiling and remember it's about how you feel, not how you look, and how you feel impacts how you look.
It helps to know our limitations. Most of us can pass in some situations, and not in others.
Walking down the street at night, even a brightly lit commercial area, or even in the daylight, I can pass. I've passed people on the sidewalks, some walking their dogs. If they say "Hello", I just smile back. I've had plenty of horn honks, cars slowing down for a better look, and a few testerone crazed youths hanging out the car window yelling "I love you". Ha. I always think, "if they only knew".
But in an up close personal encounter, my voice would give me away immediately. I know this and operate within the conditions in which I can pass and feel comfortable. I have no desire to go shopping en femme, or deal with sales people, or stop and buy gas, where some bozo could pull into the next pump and give me a hard time.
Well i think that I am not very passable because, I am a fat old man and i look like a fat old man in a skirt, I can't walk like a model (one foot in front of the other) I have seen a lot of the pictures of the other girls out there and i see a lot of beautiful very passable women, I am not one of them. I am 6'2ins tall and how many tall women do you see out there.
[SIZE="3"]Visually, I am way more passable than most, and in 10 outings, have only once had anyone even give me more than a passing glance.... As he was a young man and I was attractively dressed, I will never know whether he was admiring me or just trying to figure out which sex I was. And this occurred in a rural convenient store at a closeup distance. As he was obviously a redneck, I am more inclined to believe that he was lusting after me in my little black dress as he watched my pert little fanny moving in a figure 8 pattern. :heehee:
I do not as yet have a femme voice, and have been in all sorts of places without it. I have interacted with retail store employees and have never received more than a knowing smile here and there. I now use the ladies' room as well, and that is the only place in which I feel uneasy in the least. The down side of all this is that it takes most of the excitement out of going out en femme ![/SIZE]
Simple answer, not as passable as I was in my early thirties. But, and a big but, I learned early on that passing wasn't as important as being confident and not caring what people thought. To me passing is a state of mind, I used to think I passed because no one appeared to notice me but many did and no one ever made me feel like I should run and hide.
That's me too :)Quote:
Originally Posted by StaceyJane
I don't think i would pass,my sister says i do but i think shes only being nice.
I only go out with the friends,that know about me. :drink::drink: