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In general I do not become aroused. But more specifically, I am with Marina 99%. But I also admit that some CDs are definitely very good at what they do. Some who have transitioned seem to have achieved the level that they are very happy as they are and that is a large step higher than just looking convincing as a woman. They are effectively women even though genetically male. It is evidence that sex and gender are largely very different processes and phenomena and that the rigidity of the gender binary is false. It is like a spectrum.

There are two points I wish to respond to in this fascinating thread:

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Originally Posted by TheHiddenMe

Like others, often envious how they look. I also like to see what they are wearing and decide whether it would work for me or not, and envious they get to wear it.

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Not to single you out here Dee, but you most concisely express a point made by several. For me I am not envious at all of a lovely CD or TG - inspired is a better word. I do not envy the work of a wonderful musician,artist or author, I enjoy it thoroughly, and use it to propel me to improve my own skill. Same is true for appreciating other CDs for me, and it keeps me interested and engaged, even as I recognize I may never get there.

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Originally Posted by Fiona_44

Yes, there are some CD's that I find very attractive. And yes, some are so feminine in their look and their mannerisms that I find them extremely sensual.

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Well stated Fiona...and I also agree with as Marina points out we are hard wired as males to respond this way...and that's where I fall , without reservation or apology, on this aspect of the question.

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Originally Posted by Cheryl T

Can't say I do as you asked.
I find others attractive in the sense that they present as very attractive women, but it's not in a sexual way. I appreciate the image they present and sometimes wish I were as "womanly" as they.
Aroused, no, not at all. Not because of anything anyone else does, but because it's just not for me.

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Cheryl has summed up my thoughts perfectly.


Karen

Why shouldn't any of us find a "good looking woman" attractive? Reality is irrelevant. Our brain fills in the missing details. Maybe they have something you want or maybe they don't and your brain imagines they do. It's what you are thinking that reveals your preferences. What you thought you saw matters more than what you actually saw.

I enjoy looking at women and crossdressers who look feminine and dress well, I get inspiration from both and i am thrilled Iam far from alone in this!

I did a little search online and discovered that the 4th most searched for category on Porn-hub is "Transgender".

I agree with Marina, Kris and Fiona.

I?m with Brenda I to enjoy looking at women and cross dressers that look fabulous let?s be honest who doesn?t!!.

I love women. If you are presenting as a beautiful woman, yes I would get aroused.

Just make sure we are not out drinking.

If you are referring to appreciating their attire and the persona, yes. But for a sexual allure, No! Recognizing the looks and effort is from mutual respect. Homosexuality is a separate issue that dose in some cases shine through and is distracting from the illusion.

Witty comment Natalie5004. And I agree.

I find some other cross-dressers attractive. There are some beautiful ladies on this forum. Do I get aroused looking at pictures of them? No. Perhaps jealous, but not aroused. If I think about it, I don't get aroused looking at a picture of a beautiful cis-female, or seeing one in person. I guess I could if I thought about it in that way. Just as with a sweet looking cross-dresser, I lean towards jealousy.

I do find it interesting that in the original question you put "straight" in quotation marks, as if you don't believe any of us are actually straight.

I absolutely have to agree with Heather. Appreciate the pics but not turnd on. Definitely wish I had started CD'ing at a younger age. At 64 I have the typical "old guy" body type.

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Originally Posted by Natalie5004

I love women. If you are presenting as a beautiful woman, yes I would get aroused.

Just make sure we are not out drinking.

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This is very similar to what I said previously, and I totally agree.

But, I also have a confession to make:

"I kissed a girl (and I liked it)", to quote Katy Perry. Note that term term "girl" below means a TG girl.

The first time I kissed a girl, I was the (unwanted) receiver, not the giver. I kind of felt violated. I felt like that little boy who gets kissed (unwillingly) by a little girl, and "spits it out".

However, I subsequently kissed another girl I had been hanging out with. We were about to part, and she said, "I wasn't going to take my panties off for you, but I would have liked a kiss." My response, "I can do a kiss", and we kissed. To make a long story short, it turned into a 15 minute long makeout session that included some "heavy petting" as I've heard it described. Google it.

Once I broke the "kissing ceiling", I kissed several other girls to whom I was attracted. In the baseball analogy (Google it), I got to second base using the traditional (60s, 70s) descriptions. Would I go for third base or home? Maybe third base, but not home. That would probably cross the line for me, except is she was a post-op TS. I would know how to handle that.

OK, now that I've 'fessed up, don't let me be the only one here who's ever kissed a girl.

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Originally Posted by Heather76

There are some crossdressers who, when looking at pictures they post, I find extremely attractive. Do I get aroused? Not in the slightest. What I get is jealous because I didn't start CDing at a much younger age and I don't have the body to look anywhere near as attractive.

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Exactly what Heather says. Then I get all worked up if they are in a great, cute or sexy outfit that I just gotta have. I love the outfits.

I cannot say I kissed a girl. But there was one gay episode in the past. Does that count?

Interesting thread. I often wondered the same thing, if straight CDs get aroused. It's a tough question though, as other's have pointed out, because once you say, "Yes I do get aroused", then are you actually straight? For me the whole sexuality question is just like the gender question, we're all on a continuum. I'm not straight or gay, male or female. I'm just me, happily somewhere on both continuums. And of course I've been aroused by some CDers. They're absolutely gorgeous.

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Originally Posted by Sometimes Steffi

This is very similar to what I said previously, and I totally agree.

But, I also have a confession to make:

"I kissed a girl (and I liked it)", to quote Katy Perry. Note that term term "girl" below means a TG girl.

The first time I kissed a girl, I was the (unwanted) receiver, not the giver. I kind of felt violated. I felt like that little boy who gets kissed (unwillingly) by a little girl, and "spits it out".

However, I subsequently kissed another girl I had been hanging out with. We were about to part, and she said, "I wasn't going to take my panties off for you, but I would have liked a kiss." My response, "I can do a kiss", and we kissed. To make a long story short, it turned into a 15 minute long makeout session that included some "heavy petting" as I've heard it described. Google it.

Once I broke the "kissing ceiling", I kissed several other girls to whom I was attracted. In the baseball analogy (Google it), I got to second base using the traditional (60s, 70s) descriptions. Would I go for third base or home? Maybe third base, but not home. That would probably cross the line for me, except is she was a post-op TS. I would know how to handle that.

OK, now that I've 'fessed up, don't let me be the only one here who's ever kissed a girl.

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OK Steffi, let me lend my support as I can fess up also. That first moment came after a decade of slowly perfecting my image until I needed to share it with another Tgirl. For the first time back in 2003 I would visit as Sarah with another Tgirl who was very enfemme and we got along well. Her first kiss happened so quickly that my head spun and I would return and continue that first kiss enjoying very minute of the new experience. I'll leave it at that for now; but I certainly adore the feamle look of others.

What a fascinating thread with equally fascinating responses. The whole question tends to get messy if one approaches it from the point of view of trying to tie down boundaries. To me, the responses are themselves good evidence that the whole matter is not really divided into bounded categories. Like NonbiNancy said, it is a spectrum, a continuum because it involves that entangled zone between sexual attraction, gender identity and gender expression. Where these three overlap things can get very confused with no clear resolution. And so much of this goes to the finer details of a person's previous experiences. Some of those experiences, whether positive or negative, can have a profound impact on our inclinations. It is that part of our total behavior that is extremely creative and is probably part of the process of forming a CD/TG/TS person. It is unique, but in truth perhaps no more unique than is true of everybody else - thus we are all unique at the finest scale not matter how the final being looks or behaves. There are behavioral genetics involved but so much of it involves our individual experiences, the memories of those experiences, even those that occurred early in our life, and how our brain fits all of the vast amount of input to generate a simple "yes" or "no" answer. Life is creative because it is sensitive to its environment even though at the foundation there are deterministic genetic factors; but the very process of life constantly is playing with that genetic foundation as the lifeform experiences things in the course of its life.

Long ago it was thought that all crossdressers are homosexual, whether male or female in terms of sex. That attitude lasted for quite awhile and it is still present today. For some that is true; but for many it is not.

Then there was a period where it was thought that anyone can be sexually attracted to anyone else even if they think they can't. Problem is even though that may be theoretically true, in the practical world it is not true. One can always say no just as easily as yes. But is it really that easy?

The question becomes what are the factors from our experiences and beliefs that go into making the answer what it is. And that, I believe, is where the complexity of each of our histories which are completely unique in their totality acts as a governor on what the answer is for each of us. So, generalizations are very difficult to make without being restrictive on the criteria in making the generalization. And there is so much pure individuality involved in the moment that generalizations are probably little more than illusions based on a highly biased set of criteria that ignore the fact each organism is unique in terms of heritage and experience.

Some seem attractive, but it's important to remember that their photos may have been doctored or in some cases, are not even photos of themselves. At best, they have chosen the best photos out of many.

I do not get aroused looking at photos of crossdressers.

Same here gf

Nope. Having been molested by a male, later mistreated, cheated by, beaten up by, lied to by, double crossed by, other males I am naturally mistrustful of other men. So any hint that I'm dealing with a man, and I'm not interested in any way. Even just writing here, I kind of feel suspicious that I might be betrayed by other males here, if I somehow revealed who I really am.
So no; no attraction at all, and when I'm out in the real world, if there's any men around, there's this just general uneasyness that I feel when another male is around. It's like I just expect them to try to take advantage of me in some way, because it's happened so often in the past.

I've reached the stage in life where looking at people no longer "arouses" me, whether they're male OR female.

But I can still appreciate a lady who has made the effort to look good, even if part of that admiration is wanting to have that look for myself.

What is, or isn't, in her panties doesn't concern me. If she's looking good, what do I care?

I’m a little surprised by some of the responses, a few seem quite concerned about what is under the veneer of a pretty girl.

I am happy that if I find somebody attractive, that’s okay. I realise that I find women attractive, and I don’t find men attractive, but if a man looks like a good looking woman I have no problem accepting that I find them attractive or arousing. I know, from admittedly limited experience, that getting up close and personal with a crossdressed guy fells different to being with a woman, but that does not mean I won’t try it, and if I enjoy it, great.