Go for it. I agree with Teresa about tucking, if you are not sure how to do it properly you have time to learn.
This would take away any excitement worries.
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Go for it. I agree with Teresa about tucking, if you are not sure how to do it properly you have time to learn.
This would take away any excitement worries.
Sooooo you do nothing, because something bad "might" happen?
If you really stop to think about it, EVERYTHING you have done in the past has affected your life, for good or for ill. And yes, I agree that almost everyone has had one of those "hold my beer & watch this" moments. Some folks more than once.... But not every decision is a life or death, make or break moment. The OP has been given an opportunity to stretch her wings a little and to support a friend. Could there/will there be consequences? Damnbetcha! but by not going, she will always think: woulda, coulda, shoulda and regret a missed opportunity.
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OMG Jessica I would be there in a flash girl. Go for it hun.:hugs:
Angie
i would jump on that opprotunity :D
and as for the getting turned on, just tuck it in tight ! :)
Just a quick note..... (shouldn't be here now) You don't know what she has imagined in her mind for what to put you in. Maybe jeans and makeup??? Who knows. I would just go for it . If there is concern then say stuff like "so what about underwear....do I need to get my own?" or "I'm a guy that generally doesn't do things "half way" and I'm not sure I'd be comfortable wearing your underwear". This could possibly make a shopping trip with her happen too!
I am anxiously awaiting a reply to this. I would like to know how the night went.
Krisi,
Please don't assume some of us need all the extras you listed , OK I go along with makeup and wig and something to give you a reasonably shaped bust but not all of us need hip and butt padding, in fact I wouldn't have had room in the leather skirt in my avatar . Also the voice is not that important, no one I've met in the TG community uses a false voice, even so the chances of someone recognising you are very slim.
Despite what you advise not many of us here would give up the same opportunity.
The important thing is we are not women, we are transgendered men who on the whole do a good job of becoming convincing females as long as we wear appropriate clothes for the occasion .
Oh you absolutely MUST go. And then enjoy! Cheers. Take pics.
Hi Jessica,
I know full well what you're worried about, and it's a tough decision when you don't want to reveal this side of your life, yourself. For what it's worth, and coming from someone a bit long in the tooth and completely closeted (sadly due to my career), I'd kill to go back to when I was your age and have this opportunity. OMG...To have a young woman help you dress up and to go out with you? Such things don't happen for many of us, certainly not me.
How should I act, both towards the dressing up and once as a girl?
Just be yourself, saying you took a dare. Ask laughingly, "So, how do I look?"
What kind of outfit would be best for this occasion? Are there parts of women's clothing I definitely should(n't) wear?
I say go as beautiful and/or sexy as you want. Really, once you jump over the gender fence, you're in that yard and the degree to which you're there really won't matter. Allow your inner dreams to come true while, if needed, presenting yourself as it all just being a crazy, fun lark.
Hope you do this, but only if you promise to have fun!!! :cute:
You say you'd be concerned about being discovered. So consider this approach...
Let HER pass the word around to the dorm females that you are being such a great guy for agreeing to do it for her. Its much akin to performing in a woman-less pagent, for example. Her sizes may not be yours, but with the word out, other females could be asked to help by loaning clothes and shoes that may be more correctly sized. If there is concern about lingerie loaning, have her go with you to a charity or discount shop. Ditto for any other garments needed. There's always a Walmart around, too. Chicken fillets? I'll be some dorm gals have them, too.
In this way, you'll not be discovered. Others will know before the dress up ever happens. The word will get out to the dorm guys, too. Who knows? There may be one or two who'd like to participate, too.
Just a scientific, wild ass suggestion.
hello Jessica,
if you know that the club is in a safe area then go for it.
I bet many of the members here would loved to be dressed by a girl friend and taken to a club... it rids us of a lot of guilt to be able to say that it eas the friends idea or that we are only doing it to help a friend.
luv J
I agree, you go gurl, have fun!
I hate to go outside the box here because this is/was every one of our dreams/fantasies. It might be a once in a lifetime experience that you may even spend the rest of your life regretting if you don't BUT I have to agree with Krisi 100% here. Everyone telling you to do it is telling you this because it doesn't affect their lives at all, and I am not trying to sound nasty about it, but it doesn't. It's the same as telling everyone to get out there because no one cares or will even pay attention and we all know that's not a true statement either.
Ultimately it is YOUR choice, You have to weigh both sides out like Krisi stated and see where You stand after some good long thinking about it. I know the idea excites you, hell, it would excite me but what will the fallout be for doing such and are you truly ready for that fallout? A lot of times the reason a lot of us don't go past the front door (or very often if we do) is because we are afraid of the fallout that may come with it. be smart and think it completely through.....it's not bad if you do, it's not bad if you don't, it's completely up to YOU to decide.
I'd do it. In fact there was a car enthusiasts club I belonged to many years ago which had a close to 50:50 mix of young men and women. At one meeting one of the women suggested that the (the women) all arrange to go to a local night club that was having a women only night (there were going to be male strippers). Then somebody suggested that some of the guys could also go if they dressed us up. So 3 of us did. They found us suitable dresses, shoes, wigs etc., and did our makeup and they made us look quite convincing. At that time, being a CD, LGBT etc., was not widely accepted, so it was very daring of us, but anyone who knew (ie the other club members) just thought we were doing it for a lark. Nobody suspected that I was secretly loving every minute of it.
The good thing was that with the girls doing our make up and styling our hair, we genuinely looked like women, and we were basically unrecognisable to anyone who knew us.
At the night club, security didn't seem to notice (or care).
We had a great night (although I'm definitely not into male strippers!)
dear lord yes! go! That sounds like so much fun.
Thank you for bringing some reality into this thread.
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Your advice is fine for a transsexual but the originator of this thread has not identified as transsexual. My assumption is that she is a closeted crossdresser who wishes to remain closeted at this time.
One of the problems of web forums is that people post from their own perspective and situation. Not everyone has that same perspective and situation.
Jeassica,
I'm not sure your questions were answered so I'll try.
Definitely go, don't miss a great opportunity.
If you could look like your avatar that would be a great top; Mid thigh mini skirt (will make you feel girly), hose and 3" heels (practice before). Definitely bra and panties/thong. If something comes up while getting dressed she will like the idea of you getting turned on, when things go down go in the bath room and do the tuck, then show her how much you look like her.
Act like you normally would, low key but on the feminine side.
After you set down and order a glass of wine, not a beer you will start to relax and really, really enjoy being a girl. Also slow dance close with your friend. It will add to the evening.
I predict this will just be the start of something GREAT between the two of you.
You now have the advise, do it and let us know.
Krisi, the fact that the OP posted shows that she is very tempted to take up the opportunity. If she wasn't considering it we would not have heard about it at all. People telling her to go for it are all basically saying given the limited information available they would go for it as opportunities like that are very rare as most of us will attest to. Of course you have as much right as anyone to provide your opinion, but I totally disagree that to go out one needs hip and butt pads. I have been out well over 20 times without any padding. Take a close look at any bunch of women less than 50% have the classic hourglass figure that we all aspire to.
So Jessica, you've been very quite. What are your plans? When is this going to happen?
If you feel that you pass as a woman without womanly hips and butt, that's fine for you. And the fact that you have been out 20 times without them is irrelevant. I have photos of me dressed and I believe I look far more feminine with hip and butt padding than without.
I have taken a close look at women and I continue to do so and in my experience, except for very thin and very fat women, almost all have noticeable hips and butts. Perhaps not "hourglass" but decidedly female. I suggest that you sit and watch people walking away from you and try to decide if they are male or female from the back view.
I just posted on another thread that we have the disadvantage of trying to pass as females while having male bodies. Strapping on a pair of boobs and a wig is a start but every little bit helps with the illusion. Having feminine hips and butt goes a long way towards that.
You are correct though, in saying that you don't have to have hips to go out. You can go out anyway you please. Some members here go out wearing a dress but with a beard and bald head. That's their choice. My choice is to do everything possible to attempt to pass as a woman. To each his/her own.
Kristi, there is a very big difference between going out without padding and going out with a beard... I believe that the obvious gender markers such as heels, long hair, makeup and noticeable boobs is usually more than sufficient to blend. Add a dress or skirt and the vast majority will not process past the obvious..
She might be lesbian but is not a stereotype. She does wear dresses, makeup etc. She doesn't know the truth, no one does, and I don't see this as coming out. And yes I will mind my voice and sit down in the bathroom like a proper girl ;)
To us it's not all about being able to pass as a woman. If I do, that's wonderful but that's not what the night is about. It's just for fun, at least for her.
There might be people to recognize me or not, depends. Thing is because it's just for fun, I can use that as an excuse.
She just knows I have no problems with LGBT people and I wanna support her. I have no intention of coming out to her as a CD, at least not at the moment.
I also don't expect to get into a relationship with her just because I'm dressed as a girl. She's a friend to me and that's all. Maybe a kiss, who knows, but no more.
Also yes, it's not an LGBT club, just a night club.
That's cute! I can imagine myself twirling around like a princess and asking her that question
I've been away for some time, I'm just now reading and replying, but I'm going to write an update in a sec!
I would go in a heartbeat. I did have a girls night out with a woman after a professional makeover and loved every minute of it. I always felt it was worth the risk and as someone has already said I knew I would regret it if I did not do it. Go for it Girlfriend and enjoy.
Hi everyone, I've been away for some time and haven't had the opportunity to come here but now I've finally and read all your messages and have already replied to certain posts or statements as you can see. Now, let me give you an update of what's happening.
Inspired by the - pretty much unanimous - advice to go for it, I've confirmed my friend I'll go with her dressed up as a girl. We did agree that we'll be trying on outfits in her room first before I go out like this to make sure I look somewhat convincing, that we'll keep this on the down low to other friends, AND that she's going to give me a little bit of training on female mannerisms during the try-out session.
The try-out will take place this Thursday, she's going to have some clothes laid out for me. I've no idea which ones exactly, but we did already decide that's I'm going to be wearing a dress. Like I mentioned in my OP she has two wigs so we'll try those on, and she already insisted I wear a bra and panties, so no need to worry about that anymore.
I can imagine many of you wanna see pictures. As of right now I can't say if I'll be confident enough to share pics of myself as a girl, but I'll definitely try to take pics of the clothes and wigs, so stay tuned for that.
Once again, thanks for the support, girls! If you're just tuning in, please continue to tell me your advice.
Jessica xxx
Glad to hear you are going for it. Since she does not know, you don't have to let on you have enjoyed this in the past. Let her do it all for you but you can encourage her to do all she wants simply because you see how much she enjoys this - you are just glad to make her happy. You can later admit you did enjoy this "first" experience and you would be willing to do it again for her. If someone questions you during the meeting, you can say you are doing this only because she asked you to and you support her 100% as well as general LGBT causes.
As to future relationship, maybe seeing you are able to be the best of both worlds, might open up possibilities. You can start letting her think she opened this new world to you, and later you can share your prior love.
Hugs, Ellen
Great the hear Jessica you will have an amazing time, its such a perfect opportunity
...word of warning.. you will be hooked for life!!! I am very jealous of you as I think back to my first night out it was over 10 years ago and I can still remember every detail.
Best Advice I can give is - don't worry about passing, just try blend in and don't worry what strangers may think, Oh and take lots of pictures!!!
absolutely go for it, ...you don't have to out yourself and can play the shy and embarrassed part..but if she asks you at the end of the night how you felt...be a little honest and tell her it was actually really good fun she might encourage it again..
Glad you made your decision. Many years ago one of the girls on my APA 8-ball team invited me to dress and go to one of the lesbian bars that had recently opened. I went with her and her partner and two other straight girls from our bar. We had a great time and I still go out with all of them some twenty years later. Don't worry. It will be a blast.
I'm sure you will have a blast Jessica... I had a chance once that I turned down and regretted it for a LONG TIME.... make the most of it and have fun, you are not alone like most of us were/are so run with it.
as for pictures you should REALLY take some or have her take them on your phone that way you will have the only copies and you really shouldn't worry about posting them here as this community is GREAT and VERY supportive.
Go for it....
I did years ago and never looked back.
You are likely to get yourself a girlfriend or two also.
Not the one you are talking about, but, straight? ones..... :-)
You have hit the motherlode in the friend girl department. Most of us in this forum can only dream of meeting a woman as supportive as your friend. I'm with everyone else who says "don't hesitate to go for it"
You say you're not really ready to be out? Why not let her believe she's the one who converted you to the joys of crossdresssing? Tell her you never imagined you could look and feel this wonderful. And it's probably not inaccurate either, because she will take you to a level of detail and sophistication that you haven't managed to do on your own.
Again, I say ENJOY!
I agree. This is a real opportunity to see yourself as a real woman.
Hey Jessica,
I'm glad you are getting the chance to try this and experience it in a setting with a friend. It really can be incredible . My first time going out was with the help of friends and I was truly lucky to get to enjoy the experience fully with them. I hope you have a great time trying on things today! and don't feel pressured to post photos dressed. Take things at your own pace as you feel comfortable. Each little step leads to something new. I hope this turns out to be a great experience for you.
All the best,
Jess
I guess I am a little too late to comment but it seems your on the right track with letting her dress you and teach you mannerisms to help pass. But my concerns are ( from my own college experiences thought I did not dress then) (a) College dorms are very busy places and if you are not out yet nut people there know you (and I'm sure they probably do) no matter how convincing you are, chances are high that someone will recognize you, (b) I don't know where on campus the meeting will take place bit you will at some point be walking across campus to the meeting or to a vehicle to get to the meeting and again that means crossing paths with other students.
I know when I attended college even though I didn't know I personally didn't know people it seemed like everyone was a friend of a friend so when something did occur it spread like wildfire across campus and eventually everyone knew about and in a relatively short time.
So my suggestion is to let her dress you up and practice the mannerisms and after that if you are comfortable with the risks then I say go for it, but if you even have a shred of concern that you will be found out and you think the risk and repercussions will be too high then I would say not to do it. I'm sure that is not the answer you were looking for but hers and your safety needs to be of paramount concern.
Remember, this is a GBLT event! You will be among friends/ others in the or similar boat as you!
Also, you mentioned have some things of your own... I'd bring them to the try on session as well.
I can't tell you what the best answer for your will be but I will say this; If I'd had that opportunity at your age, I wold have jumped all over it and at nearly 60, I have more regrets about things I never tried than things I tried that failed(and some abysmally) :)
You call yourself a closeted crossdresser but in 2015 you posted about how you arranged to spend 2 weeks living as 'housewife' with a man you met 6 month earlier? We never heard how that worked out?
After the housewife experience why would you need to ask us how to act like a girl? Bye
I live in Belgium, here college and campuses are different from the US. It's basically just a house where a couple of people live together. Also it's not a meeting, just a LGBT bar. Also, should someone see me, I can simply say it's to support my friend, not to be taken too seriously.
and what happened? The try on take place?
Ok girls, this is what happened at the try-out. I went to her place, nervous as hell but also really excited. She had laid out some clothes already which got me reaally excited. First the make-up, nothing too much, just some lipstick, blush and mascara. Then we tried on two blonde wigs. I went for the longer of the two. Then I changed into a pair of panties and a bran she didn't mind. We filled the bra with water balloons. My breasts were quite big but then again she's quite busty as well, and I loved having them. Finally, we tried on several dresses until we decided to go for a long black one. Now I have to say, it felt sooo good showing off! I twirled around A LOT, feeling a bit like a princess. I also felt like I could be that person with her. Then she got me in some high heels and she taught me how to walk feminine (hands on hips),
which actually wasn't that bad. I also learned how to sit properly like a girl and then to practice my voice we pretended to be calling each other on the phone, like giggling girls talking about girl stuff. Overall it was a wonderful experience and I can't wait for us to go out actually. It took me some time to come down that's why I dodn't immediately post this. I didn't hesitate too much and my feminine behavior came quite naturally once I dressed up like a lady (apparently I'm quite girly for a girl and a bit of a bitch even at times haha). Now I didn't take any pics of myself, still not sure about that, but I did quickly take pics of the two wigs (I went for the long one as I said) and her panty drawer (I wore the pink one in the top right corner) just to give you girls something. I'll make a pic of the dress later, promise. Thanks again all of you for your kinds words of support.
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You realize of course that now you must either come out to her, or at a minimum tell her you really enjoyed the experience and would like to do it again.
Jessica,
Congrats on getting dressed and being seen by your friend! I'm sure it was quite a rush.
So glad that it feels wonderful for you. It's great when you have a GG that helps.
Pics of the event would be nice. BTW, when is it?
Just a few suggestions,
borrow a purse (and keep track of it), take a pair of flats in your purse to change into when your feet need a break.
Take the water balloons down a notch from quite big to just big :-).
Pay attention to how she does your makeup. Ask questions to learn how to do it yourself. If a good opportunity comes up before the event, ask her to help you find the right shades of foundation & eye shadow for you.
Relax & Have fun.
NVLady,
No need for her to "come out".
Her friend saw Jessica's reaction so she already knows.
Hugs, Connie
So, let's be honest. You just won the lottery, and you almost didn't even buy the lottery ticket.
Your reactions, nervousness and excitement at the beginning, exhilaration in the middle, and a high so high that you didn't come down for days is very similar to what I felt my first time out of the house.
I hope there is much more to come. This girl may be hiding a deep dark secret from you. She may be Bi, and/or she might have enjoyed dressing you up as much or more than you enjoyed being dressed up. Somehow, things lined up almost too perfectly in that you are the same size in clothes and shoes, and she had wigs for you to put on.
I agree with others, (1) you did win the lottery and (2) you at least need to tell her that you enjoyed it/had a good time. Other than that, enjoy and relish every minute because these opportunities do not come around often, if at all, and if/when they do they pass so very quickly.
You could practice at home before going out, good excuse to get into bra, panties and heels and makeup. If you wanted to push the experiment to let her know you like the idea of dressing as a girl then you could ask her to borrow the clothing so you could practice at home. Would this put the CD thought in her head that you like to dress female, absolutely and this may not be a bad thing. Your previous thread said she insisted you wear a bra and panties. Sounds like she likes you in bra, panties, girl clothes. Yes you won the lottery.
And how were her reactions? Did she asked you to repeat? Did she flirt or you were acting as a couple?
A word of caution.... For the day of the event, I would find an alternative to water balloons as they tend to pop rather easily!
Yes she's going to lend out the clothes to me to practice actually. Don't have them yet, probably gonna pick them up tomorrow! Reason she made me wear the bra and panties was to give me a feminine shape as well as making me feel more like a girl.
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Like I said we pretended to be girlfriends, chatting over girl stuff, not really as a couple.
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Not sure what we could use as alternative. She might have had some wigs laying around at home but I'm pretty sure no breast forms. Water balloons do feel really nice though,, and it's easy to fill the bra with them (D cup)