Honestly,but for me of all the male parts I wish I could lose the most, its the Adams apple, its hideous, its grotesque, how can you possibly look feminine with this outrage of nature sticking out of your neck??
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Honestly,but for me of all the male parts I wish I could lose the most, its the Adams apple, its hideous, its grotesque, how can you possibly look feminine with this outrage of nature sticking out of your neck??
YES BIG TIME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I have come close 3 times in almost cutting them off only to remember they need that for surgery. It is getting harder to stop as I see that becoming farther & farther away from happening. When I shower, my stomach turns & sometimes I get sick just from cleaning it.
Like in the movies, wheres my fairy godmother to help.
Thanks............................HUGS
Janelle
I wouldn't say I hate the male parts, but they've served their purpose and are now mostly just an inconvenience making my panties fit funny and getting in the way during some forms of lesbian sex I find particularly enjoyable. I won't be sad to see them go.
If I was the Creator of mammals I would not have let them boldly stick out with high risk of injury, rather kept inside and streamlined like many non-mammal animals. BTW I would also have let breasts grow the same size on both females and males.
If everyone had concealed sexual organs and all looked the same, I think we would get bored real quickly.
Because I still enjoy sex and am not in a position for full reassignment surgery I gues I'll live with them.I'm developing breasts nicely and wish my male parts would morph into a sensitive working vagina to go with them.In the mean time I'll do the best I can with what I have.
Yes! I can't stand my stupid Adams apple. And the more I lose weight, the more the stupid thing sticks out. Its my worse feature with my nose a distant second. Turtleneck sweaters are all I can do to cover it up. :-(Quote:
Originally Posted by Emma Leigh
I have felt indifferent to them all my life. If I woke up tomorrow and they were gone, I wouldn't miss them.
I will admit that there was a time when I felt inadequate,betrayed by mother nature and ashamed of my male parts. But then I realized that they are as much a part of who I am as the female parts. I've had therapists who've said "You're just not ready to let go of that part of yourself yet." Maybe I'm not. But why should I have to be? If I thought SRS would magically make me feel like a whole person again I'd have no problem with it. Right now I don't see that happening. I've still got a lot of issues to work out within myself before I'm ready to decide either way. Anything worth while takes time. I'm willing to wait and see what happens. I just want to be at peace.Quote:
Originally Posted by thechic
It's not what we got- well it is but more so it's how we feel. To my way of thinking it's not the male parts which are so confining as the male role. Were I able to be myself the "parts" would of little concern to me. It's very hard to understand the way CIS gender constricts us- or even if it does outside of societal pressures. The question in my mind, given the relative acceptance of "us" by CIS females is who exactly it is holding us back (if anyone but ourselves)?
I do have problems with the male role. I really hate the narrow selection of clothing for males, particularly formal attire with the mandatory coat and tie look. I also hate the narrow options for grooming.
If I want to wear a dress I'm considered a pervert by some. And men are not supposed to wear lipstick, blush, or other makeup. Men also have a very boring selection of shoes.
I am so disgusted with the limitations imposed by the male role that it is contributing heavily for me to seriously consider male to female hormone treatment and to present as a woman.
Johanna
I'm in a relationship with an FTM now and my feelings are starting to change a little bit in regards to my extra bits. We are exploring various ways to make love, but oddly enough, it's still nice to be able to connect with "matching parts" even though it's backwards. We do try different ways so I don't feel like I'm in such a dominant position, and vice versa. I have a feeling what we have is going to only grow and I now may have a reason to keep my "male" parts if using them continues to be an important connection for us.
I just wanted to update with this because I thought my mind was pretty made up that I would definitely get SRS, but now... it doesn't feel like a absolute certainty.
Ya just never know!
I don't hate my male parts. I would love to look like a woman, but I accept the way I was born and really believe that the whole understanding of gender is mostly and most importantly in your mind, rather than in your physical appearance. I actually think it is a mistake to go the way of western medical practice and try to alter the status quo because of the urge to assimilate yourself to society. If we can educate society to understand that we are special, spitriual and important people who contribute our unique abilities to society as a whole, we would not need to alter our bodies to "fit in" or to "feel right". The fact in my view is that we already are right and OK, and totally female if we perceive ourselves as female. This is my personal opinion, not to be misunderstood as an attempt to change anyone others minds. People should do whatever they like, but I am against the direction in the Trans Gender community which advocates sex change as a method for living with what we know as trans gender disorder. My vision is to educate the public so they see what a special gift we have and that we can contribute to our society, not as assimilated humans, but as revered trans gender human beings. I guess to sum it all up, I would say to you, try and embrace everything of what you are and live fully as the gender you feel like, in spite of how you were born.
Good luck and God Bless.
Sejd
Very eloquently spoken, Sejd, and very much true.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sejd
Let me say that I have always disliked my male parts. On many occassions I have been close to removing what is between my legs. I have woken up trying to twist and pull them off. Shaving has never been a pleasure either ouch! I have come to terms for the most part with them, but would puffer they were long gone.
I have no problem with anyone who is able to feel whole whilst having a body that does not align with their gender.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sejd
I would, however, take issue with the last sentence that I quoted. Gender Realignment Surgery is offered by the medical community because many people with acute Gender Dysphoria (not trans gender disorder whatever that may be) are unable to cope with living with a body that does not match their gender. A number of us become so distressed by the very sight of that part of our anatomy that we become suicidal or are tempted to self-mutilation. This is not a case of the community pushing us towards something, it is a matter of surgery being the only currently-known option to make our bodies align more closely with our self-image and thus relieve some symptoms of the dysphoria.
If anyone believes that we blithely allow ourselves to be pushed by our peers into something that will cause days of physical suffering, then they misunderstand the mental suffering that brings us to that point.
there are lots of threads that touch around this topic..
the concept of being against the sex change as the preferred method living with this problem is forgetting the simple fact that sex IS the preferred method..we know this because so many of us have done and enjoyed the feeling of wholeness we never had before...
perhaps there are levels of ts. but i don't think so (i certaintly don't know so...but i do know what me and pretty much every person that had grs experienced afterwards..i would go further than rianna in pointing out that many people like myself that had grs were not even distressed at our own genitals...but we believed that grs would make us whole, and it did..
getting through being transsexual without grs, without living 24/7, or however else you do it is a reasonable and sensible..but it is different and the benefits of that method are more around how you feel about your ts nature, your financial and health situation, and fear of hurting or losing loved ones all valid concerns that must be dealt with..
it seems natural that folks that had grs and are happy , and folks that haven't had it and are happy would disagree on the best way to deal with transsexualism
Great thoughts Kaitlyn Michele.
It is a very complicated question, and everyone really is on their own to find whatever works for them. My input is limited by the fact that I never went through SRS but I honor anyones decision to do what they feel is important to them to be complete. There is no "One way" in this very difficult situation. Thanks for bringing that up. :0)
Sejd
hi kaitlyn i know that i want to feel that i can maybe change other peoples opinon of what being trans is all about.i have gon the road and suffered the narrow minds of people who cannot or willnot even try to underestand how i feel inside.if only one person can be changed then i will be the happiest person in the world .may be i am dreaming but i am glad that my journey will be worthwhile. davinaxx ie david
Here is a clothes designer who identifies himself as male - Phillipe Blond. He does have an Adams apple but one doesn't really notice it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Emma Leigh
I have never thought about the word hate because I have had to live with it. It is more like I have always been depressed that my male parts were there when I had to watch my school girl friends turn into women when I could only dress and act like a woman. I never really enjoyed using my male parts and after taking hormones that became moot of course.
I tolerate my male part because I know that someday it will be needed. I don't particularly like it, but it doesn't adversely affect me having to touch it. I think that it helps that mine is quite small anyway(about an inch long now, having shrunk in the last couple of years ) and as I have no testicles following my orchie it means that my profile is fairly flat when I am wearing something nice. Looking in the mirror whilst naked it still looks a bit incongrous when I see my breasts and that down below, but at least it is not huge. Nevertheless, the day can't come soon enough when it is no more. Some day.
I agree, hate is probably too harsh a word.
I've been hoping mine would get bored and decide to leave on good term's.
Actually I hate my male parts and would simply love to be all female......... However I love to be treated like a woman in every way by a nice man with male parts.... So yummy if you know what I mean.......
Robyn
well here is a true conundrum for me.
i do not hate my bits between the legs. they have brought me such pleasure. and such problems.
but at this time in my life i would let a Dr remove them this week, no problem would not miss them at all.
now i am only a cross dresser, no interest to being a full time woman (would like to try for a year or two).
but due to a problem were the Drs got together and said this internal item must come out.(C) well the remaining external parts just are dead weight now.
no hate of them, just no use for them anymore. well one use, need to sit now and could still do it with this gone.
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I also think hate is to strong a feeling for my bits; but i will tell you this ever since i was a kid they bothered me and at times i to wished when i got up they would be gone. I have been wearing panties daily now and they bother me to the point were i have to do some form of tucking even when i go to bed i have hipsters on with a light panty liner which seems to keep them from bothering me. When i fully dress i will use the full tuck that is long to prepare and uncomfortable. At present i am trying to find the right panty liner with a little help from the tape. Has any one else tried different options for this if you have let me know.
lol
Reggie
I also agree 'hate' is such a strong negative emotion to have at the best of times, let alone for a part
of your anatomy you were born with. I don't like 'it' being there like anyone else, but until I can have
GRS there isn't a whole lot I can do about it. I just don't pay much attention to the little guy who lives
down under.
I also think a far easier solution for tucking than messing around with tape is to buy ladies Bikini briefs,
(NOT knickers) about 2 sizes smaller than you regular size to wear like gaffs. I am talking about the type
of bikini brief that women wear swimming which are usually made out of a stronger lycra type material
and also have additional padding or lining around the crouch to help hide the 'camel toe' effect. These
types of bikini briefs provide a lot more support & keep everything tucked nicely in place. They are so
effective that it is virtually impossible to even tell that there are any male bits down there at all.
Yeah... I buy certain kinds of panties that are stronger and I wear two to keep the tuck in place. I hate taping. But this is also uncomfortable and not something I want to do for the rest of my life. Not to mention... horrible panty-lines!Quote:
Originally Posted by Melody Moore
Melody what a great idea! I am going to try that as soon as possible.
Reggie
I think for most trans-girls tucking is a necessary evil we all go through. And like you I can't wait to have GRS eitherQuote:
Originally Posted by Bree_K
to get 'it' out of the way permanently. But there are protocols that must be adhered to before I will be approved for
my surgery. And besides I also have to try & come up with the money. So I have to be able to tolerate 'it' being there
for now - but trust me, I want 'it' gone ASAP as well. I have a few ideas to get those funds together but I can't do a
lot yet towards that goal for about another month because I have to have gall bladder surgery on the 6th of April, then
I need a little recovery time after that before I can really start looking for work.
Hi Melody just wanted to tell you went out and bought what you suggested and fits my ideas to a tee. Good luck with your gall bladder surgery, hope they can do it like mine just a tiny hole in abdomen, overnite stay and out the next day. Success with your other ambitions.
LOL
Reggie
I dont care for them much myself. They have been useful in the past allowing for my son to be born though. Additionally, although full transition is in my future, the parts still function so I can pleasure the wife. May seem strange, but I get pleasure emotionally out of making my wife feel good. On my end though, there is not much actual feeling and Im ok with that.
Like many have stated, ive wished I could wake up and the parts be female.
First of all, you look great!!!having said that, we all have different emotions on that matter I think. For my self, I don't "hate" my male parts. I don't really care, and I guess that's partly because I had a Gender Therapist who explained to me how the male parts really are not that different than the female parts. We have an outie, and they have an innie!!!!but really, the sexual stimulant parts are actually very similar and can get stimulated the same way if you are male or female. for example, I get my best orgasms when I stimulate myself the female way and don't think of my male organ as such. Anyone can learn this, and so I don't have to hate my genitals. The only other issue I personally have is that certain skirts or dresses are not workable because of my male gender. That's a bummer sometimes, but I am beginning to learn that there are plenty of fashion which accommodate my needs. That makes my life easy enough. good luck to you.
Kind regards
Sejd
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Totally agree Alicia :0)
"Hate" is too strong a word to use when describing the anatomical item(s) that through no fault of their own are the wrong make and model. But what I do "hate" is the lost opportunities they contributed to, and the disconnect their presence created from a normal life. But do I hate the items themselves? No. Afterall, they tried in earnest to do their job and to do it quite well. They were just dispatched on the wrong errand: Not their fault.
Yet, I do see them as a blemish, as something to hide, as something to "tuck" away until such time that they exist in memory only-- replaced by the correct model.
Their presence did become more obtusive and unwanted over time. The mones (spiro and estradiol) have "shrunk the kids" a bit, yet when they do manage to appear, albeit by accident, I see them as even more unsightly. Yet, their appearance also helps me realize how far I've come on this journey and just how fortunate it is that they can be crafted into the right model!
I do enjoy the feelings it gives me, can't help it and if it were not for that part my family wouldn't exist.
However, I do get incredibly jealous inside when i see my wife and when i tuck and I am flat then i get a really girly buzz - so complicated life aint it - sigh!!!
I don't hate my male parts, I have always wanted to be a woman but now I understand the kind of woman I want to be. The more and more "trannies" I see online, the more I want to be one. Nothing has gotten me as excited as wanting to become a full on she-male, that way I get all the perks of looking like a woman and dressing as a woman full time but I can still please the women I'm attracted to.
This is my opinion. You should not "Hate" any of your body parts, even if they don't seem ideal to you. You should strive to love all of yourself. You are NOT a mistake, the condition you are in is a blessing. A trans person is a unique wonderful being who is, yes, often misunderstood, yes, often asked to change to fit in to the supposedly "Right" group of people. My mantra is that you have to develop your beautiful self because you are special and divine and a gift to this world. When you start going down the road of assimilation you are in my opinion starting on the wrong track. Instead develop your uniqueness with what you have, with what you are. I know the medical establishment seems to think otherwise, and so does a large number of therapist. God bless them. I don't agree. Instead, find peace with yourself, walk proudly as a trans-whatever and focus on the real issue here in life which is to overcome our selfishness and love each other. Read this forum and surprise yourself with how much energy is spent on things which really doesn't matter. One can get completely absorbed in this process and forget everything else in life on this ride, but is it what your life is supposed to look like? Don't hate anything which is preciously a part of you, start living a full embraced life instead.
I agree. I feel the same way.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brooke Anderson
Johanna
Hi Sejd, I am glad that you can see being transsexual as a blessing. Unfortunately, I am one of those who sees being born in the wrong body as a curse not a blessing. I am slowly correcting the dirty trick that was played on me by nature when I got a male body even though I am female, and when I get to the point where surgery becomes a real possibility, then I very much doubt that I will have any hesitation at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sejd
I don't "hate" my nether parts, but only because they will be needed to correct nature's error. However, I do regret that they have stood in the way of me finding fulfillment as a woman.
You will probably think that I am "going down the road of assimilation" and I am but not in the sense that I believe you mean. I am heading down a road which should lead to my body being assimilated to my being and thereby becoming that of the woman I have always been. If that is not the right road for you, then I hope your road leads you swiftly to where you want to be.
I live in a debatable healthy state of denial when it comes to my genitals. I just try not to think about it and when I do I think "other women have these genitals too." Coming here has reminded me that some other women DO have the same type of gentiles as me and that I'm not alone in this. I hope to someday rectify the situation but until then I don't think that I'd gain anything from "hating" what God gave me.
On one level it's quite simple, ya gotta do what ya gotta do... hating your genitals is one part of this that it seems many but not all of us suffer..
I wonder if we will ever know if people that want to keep their male parts are experiencing transsexuality the same way as those that don't..there are lots of orchi's and non-srs transitioners out there.
One thing Sejd that i think you are glossing over is that it's NOT the medical and therapy community that is forcing things like srs on us...it is US DEMANDING IT from the medical community..transsexuals had to fight like commando's, and have been very creative over the years to get to this point... ..doctors have never been happy to help us, and the medical community is only very recently suggesting to insurance companies that they should help us
it's not fair to justify "your way" or "my way" as better of worse, but you can say that people need to be incredibly motivated to get major invasive surgeries, and to willingly risk families, jobs and even their health to align their physical bodies and their relationships with their gender...and it's that type of motivation and desire that drove the creation of what is now a network of doctors and therapists that can help us..
well put Kaitlyn Michelle.
I know I have probably answered this earlier but the answer is nope, and in 5 days they will be bio-hazard waste or sold on e-bay. LOL
Super input Melody :0) I like it LOL
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Rianna, I am where I want to be, and of course I cannot speak for anyone else than myself. I apologize if my post came out as such. We all have our own understanding of who we are, and I am only speaking from my own self. We are all in this exploration together, and I surely don't want to distance myself from you or anyone else living this very special situation. Thanks for your response.
Hugs
Sejd
They don't work, get in the way, are useless & are an aggravation. Getting rid of them in Dec 2011. Freedom Finally!!!
Interesting what hormones, time, and femaleness can do to jou! Since my posting here I developed precious body, even I 44 year old former body builder can not phantom how is it possible to loose so much muscle mass and go from 207-217 to 165 and still going. Being 6' tall and get shorter on hormones? And start disliking part of the former apparatus, mainly testis yet and scheduling surgery to remove them and thought of getting arid of the main shaft isn't so suddenly foreign to me anymore.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alexia Elliot
There was a time I wish i was born a girl. Sometimes I still think about it and wish it was true. However, since I do have the male parts, I can't give them up. Besides, they are so small I can hardly find them anyways. lol
I know that I haven't been on this path for very long and that my opinion may change however atm I don't particularly hate them as much as wish they were not there to begin with.
Hate them with a passion. If i did not need the disgusting things to make a vagina, they would be gone.
Maybe, If you plan on taking hormones you may find it difficult to impossible for your male part to function properly. Then again you might not have much trouble at all. Either way your attitude and approach to sex will likely be different, don't be surprised if your content to just snuggle and kiss!Quote:
Originally Posted by Brooke Anderson