yes I have been with a guy
no I didn't feel guilty after as I am a woman in my mind so it seemed right
no the clothes had nothing to do with it
yes I would do it again but still prefer a woman
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yes I have been with a guy
no I didn't feel guilty after as I am a woman in my mind so it seemed right
no the clothes had nothing to do with it
yes I would do it again but still prefer a woman
I experimented with a guy in my youth. Looking back on it now, I know that it wasn't for me. I find some men attractive but not sexually. As a "guy" or a girl, I am attracted to women.
I had been with men both dressed femme and male and no, I never felt any guilt about it. I would not say I was addicted, but I did love it and can "switch", sometimes I want men, sometimes I want women. No I did not go full time afterwards. It was a different kind of pleasure and I felt very fulfilled and liberated. It is a turn on knowing I can satisfy either sex.
Sometimes, some of the men I was with felt guilty afterwards. For them being with somebody that is dressed is easier for them to accept. After they "finished", they got hit with "gay guilt" and I was able to read it on their face. Sometimes you are a partner, other times you are somebody's short-lived fantasy.
I hve doneit many times and mostly wearing at least something feminine as I truly do play the female role and don't feel the least bit guilty
Not addicted but most enjoyable satisfying and pleasurable
Men only for me now with no regrets and I find it more gratifying
Why is there even a stigma, really?
You like who and what you like. Some people can be pretty or repulsive, regardless of 'gender'. To me it is more about personality.
If you like *them*, then what does it matter?
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- MM
Hi Amanda,
I feel exactly as you have described. in our cases, at least, I see it as being sort of half and half male and female
feelings and expression. When male I'm not interested in other males, when dressed en femme and feeling like
a female, I am interested. I agree, just labelling it as bi, dismisses our female side. I think people get to being
a crossdresser in different ways, and hence the spectrum.
Hugs,
Melanie
I really want to do it but I am wondering if I am going to regret it later. My questions are
1. Has anyone done it before?
2. Did you feel guilty later about it?
3. Did you get addicted to being with a guy?
4. Did you decide to go fulltime after being with a guy?
Most Importantly
5. Was it more pleasurable than straight sex? How did you feel?
1: I've had intimate encounters whether it involved oral or anal sex with several guys. And yes I've only had these encounters while I was dressed "en femme."
2: No I did not feel guilty, I might have had second thoughts about who I hooked up with, but that was in regards to the person, not related to their sex.
3: I did not get addicted. I still have a normal male sex drive and my desires my sexual intimacy with another person runs about the same as most other males.
4: I think the desire to go full time is not related to sex whether with a male or female as most people on here will agree but rather on yourself and what gender you identify as.
5: Sex can be pleasurable whether with a man or woman. I happened to enjoy most of my encounters and still desire to have sexual intimacy with a man from time to time. But I also enjoy sexual relations with my wife. And I have had good sex with women and good sex with men and the opposite with both genders. I just depends on the connection between your partner and yourself.
Whatever you decide to do I just hope that you are safe and you make the right decision for yourself.
when I was in the navy way back when,a buddy and I picked up a couple of girls and was walking around half the night,a little kissing and touching now and then.the girl that I was with let me touch her breast thru her clothes,but when I tried to touch her through her skirt she always stopped me,now to this day I am wondering if she was a guy.she was a little hefty built,i was a 17 year old kid and very inexperienced.either way she felt good through the clothes.
I spend over 99% of my time in male mode. While in this default, I'm not in the slightest bit interested in having sex with other guys. When I'm out en femme, I don't seek out men. That said, I've had a couple of occasions where I've been en femme when a guy has checked me out and I've gotten some strong urges...
I know many CD's like myself are straight... Some are not... It's just like anything else. I do think that almost all CD's are going to be more accepting of the gay lifestyle even if they are not gay themselves. I think many CD's, such as myself, might have fantasies sometimes about being with a man.
I know I don't fit into any of the typical categories of cross dressers as my desire to dress is completely sexually driven. I don't have any desire to dress unless I am sexually aroused. It enhances my sexual experience whether it's with a woman or by myself. Personally, when I dress, I will find myself fantasizing about being with a man simply because I've had pretty lousy experiences dressing with the women I've dated. With my dressing being something I try to be as discreet as possible about, I've had more men interested in me when I dressed. Equally, they are usually looking to keep things discreet too as they don't want to advertise that they are interested in a CD. So we are able to satisfy our needs with mutual sort of agreement to keep it hush-hush.
I also think that it's the taboo with dressing that adds to my thrill too. In my "normal" world, I'm a real guy's guy... I watch all kinds of sports... Do all types of sporting activities... I can drink almost anyone under the table... I love cars... Camping, fishing, chasing women, etc... I don't pretend to know what others image of myself is, but based on experience, I'm sure most would be VERY shocked if they knew I dressed. There have been several women I've opened up to about it and ended up dressing with and they were all taken aback and some even furious because it's such a different persona from my "normal" life. It's not an act... That 99% of my life where I'm "normal" is who I really am... The dressing is just a means to an end.
Still, when I think of the "man's man" I am the majority of the time, but I think of this one single thing that's SO secret and SO scandalous and SO kept from everyone else, it's a massive turn on for me. When I think of how compromising it is to have this desire to dress and keep it from everyone else, when I finally get the chance to dress, it's an unreal release. And when I think of this Amazon CD not only being being completely dressed, but also offering myself to a man and having them take control and use me, it's a fantasy like no other to me.
I don't worry that I might be "turning gay"... It's 2015. There's never been a better time to be a gay person and it's only going to get better from here. I don't fantasize about holding hands with a guy... having romantic dinners with a guy... Spending Valentine's Day with a guy... Etc. All of my romantic fantasies are about women. Even when I fantasize about men while I'm dressed, it's mainly the act of being submissive to a man, the behavior that could be compromising for me... The humiliation,... The degradation... There's never really a specific face or particular man. There's no fantasy about a SPECIFIC man like a model, actor, celebrity, etc. it's just me being with A man . I'm sure some would classify me as a deviant more than anything, but it's what thrills me the most.
I personally wouldn't worry about it. I also wouldn't worry about having a female with you either. Unless you have a wife or girlfriend you're wanting to have a threesome with.
I been with 4 men in my life always dressed as a man and one transgender. it was always oral me giving . did i feel guilty no i enjoyed it and i still fantasize about it. I guess it makes me gay one of my biggest fantasy is being with a man dressed in sexy lingerie. go for it. just be careful . live life and enjoy life's to short. do what you feel is something you will enjoy.
No - I have never been with a guy and I have never had a desire to be with a guy - dressed or not dressed. I do not feel my appearance changes my sexual preference. I also do not feel being dressed changes the fact that I am married or provides a pass to be with someone else, male or female. I am always me.
Perhaps someone can enlighten me. I do not understand why most MTF transgendered people spend tremendous time making themselves look totally female and express intense feelings of being feminine without any desire to bring it all to natural fruition by being intimate with a man. This is what women do.....and they like it.
I never been with a guy while dressed as a girl. However I want to give it a chance. I am more open to date another cd
I am so male that when I was with men, they always wanted me to be the stud. I did that to a few of them But I did want to try it female. I found men that wanted me to dress. Both were married. Go figure. Anyways I would meet them and go to a hotel. I would dress and romantically get involved with them. Good kissers and well they put me through what a real woman like in sex and what they liked and needed. The plumbing is different, however we have something they don't and that is our prostrate sex organ.They enjoined sexually undressing me and wow is all I can say. I'm in an heterosexual relationship now but sometimes want the love of a man. That makes me BI.
unless...they are lesbian??? Why would you clothing make you change your sexual desires? These types of threads confuse me and honestly I think half of the people who desire this are all fantasy. I also don't understand why people think being a woman is always a passive sexual activity.
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I don't think it changes anything that wasn't there to begin with. I think in usual every day life folks just don't allow other feelings to surface. When they dress, it gives them the freedom to allow other thoughts.
DeeAnn
Yes I been with three silicon guys all different sizes and enjoyed ever min lol I'm not into men but find transgender lady's attractive :) best way to full fill your fantasy with no regret hehehehehehe
I just want to date another CD that's it and gg
I wish my ex could have been okay to stay with me. This does not make me want to be with men. I don't like men and now that I am as I am now I still do not want them. I feel as if I can never be with a woman again, but am only hoping I will find someone else soon. I am TS more than CD and have asked the question of myself. But can only answer no, I still wish to be with women. Sex is not a thought anymore, but I am this way and will stay for the rest of my life. Anyone here still with their wife or gf is lucky. I just couldn't do the back and forth.
No I'm sure that I'm gay as a woman I like women. I didn't even like myself as a man, which is why I'm not one anymore. Don't think you not gay and you dress as a woman. There must be something wouldn't you think. I am a lesbian and love it I was never straight. I am just being for real. Or at least in my mind.
Be with a man if you want it won't make you a CD or a woman or in between. Gay women and men usually don't chose to be gay. A sexual act is not a fantasy but a fantasy can be a sexual act, unless you act upon it. Anyway I have sad before "How would you prove you aren't gay." there is no way. Do what you will, it won't necessarily change you.
Contessa
A couple things stand out in this thread. (BTW I admit that I've thought a lot about the idea of being with a guy while i'm dressed). First, there seems to be a leap from being dressed and with a guy (dancing, chatting, dating) to rolling around in a bed. All those prelims out of the way then you may know if you really are attracted or not to men. Then you may know if this is a guy you want to be with. Throughout the thread there seems to be a difference in how people define "being with". Another question, where are all these guys who are looking to have sex with a guy dressed as a girl. Are they themselves "gay" or "straight" or maybe "bi". Toss in the need to have a woman watching and you might be running out of safe candidates. Does a sexual encounter with a guy make you gay? That's a label, you'll know if you want to keep having sex with guys, dressed or not.
this is exactly what the uninformed general public thinks. Here are the problems with your thesis:
1) straight men do not want to be with cross dressers closing the deal with a straight man will not happen.
2) gay men tend to want men who look like men, not women
3) I'm straight before I put on a dress and after. Just like the vast majority of cross dressers.
4) clothing does not change your sexual orientation
When we have bi when dressed feelings, it's not about the clothes. It's about "feeling like a woman". A metamorphosis. A changeling. The bi when dressed is only a small part of what I feel.
Since I'm bi the answer is yes... but I've never been out with a man while dressed. But it's a dream I've had for years. I would love to go on a romantic date and be treated like a lady.
Your point about fantasy - yes, I agree with that.
As for your question "why would your clothing make you change your sexual desires", the answer simply has to be that it doesn't. I do however think that for some sexual desires can influence their choice in clothing. To use a (admittedly stereotypical) example, butch lesbians. They incorporate a look that reflects their sexuality. Their look not influencing their sexuality.
In regards to cd's who wonder or fantasize about having sex with a man, for many this seems to be more about a desire to affirm their female persona rather than a desire to actually have sex with a man. It's a self-reflective fantasy all said and done.
As for your comment about not understanding why people think being a woman is always a passive sexual activity, well, in terms of conventional sex, that is exactly what it is for women. Biology dictates that. This passive/active dichotomy however lends itself to homosexual relations. A giver or a taker. Top or bottom. These are merely preferences, and despite the connotations aligned to the words passive and active, it is not meant to imply weak or strong. Or be detrimental to one over the other in any way.
Of course, you are correct in that people, regardless of their gender (or rather biological sex), can adopt either role. For women (whether they are with men or woman), should they take on a more active (as opposed to passive) role, it means that they are taking on a more masculine (as opposed to feminine) role in the engagement. By the very definition of what the words masculine and feminine mean.
after years and years of fantasizing and trying to delude myself that i was straight, i finally went with a guy. and it was as natural as breathing. i finally figured out in my forties that was want i wanted all along. now i've lost count of the guys i been with. which probably means i'm a sl*t but i'm too old to care and just making up for lost time.
i been with loads of guys who claim they are 'straight'. never had any complaints yet.
they're on fabswingers. and they're queuing up to meet me.
I have strong fantasies of being with a man while dressed en femme. Nothing romantic or anything of the sort. Would love to be just be 'taken.'
Have been with a couple of men (before my 'dressing'). No guilt, but just not satisfied with the situation.
I travel quite a bit and would love to explore these fantasies...but so afraid of the potential for being caught.
Cindy
I think it is wonderful to see that so many of you pretty ladies have had sex with men. I started out CDing with my wife and gradually progressed to experimenting with men. I found it wonderful to be dressed, and made love to. They used to tell me if one or the other was wearing "panties" it wasn't gay.
Funny, I did a similar thread and it got me some flack. I was told by one replier that if I wanted to talk about that kind of thing to go to another forum.
Anyway, for me I have always liked women. I even prefer working with them. In my man days that seemed natural but now I find I still prefer them. Makes me a straight crossdresser I suppose.
I know, apart from the usual curiosity, I don't ever have any desire for a male sexual relationship but am quite happy to have a friendship with anyone, as I really do on here
I submit that the responses are inconsistent, which is not necessarily the same as confusing (though some respondents may very well be 'confused' in the sense that they haven't quite figured out their own feelings yet). Not everybody here has the same orientation, gender expression, or reasons for dressing, so to expect unanimity of responses is unrealistic. Everyone has their own motivations and feelings.
after reading the question and all of the responses I have decided that I really do want to be with a man and am gong to try it.......I feel that as a woman I need to do this...I believe that I truly do want a man and to be his woman....I have set it up for the Saturday after thanksgiving.....I admit that I am excited about it.....if you would like to know how it goes and all of the intimate details drop me a line and I will share all of the intimate details with you in a private communication....it truly was wonderful to read all of the open and honest opinions.....
mn
Yes, I have been with a few out on dates. There was no sexual activity at all.it was a great feelingof course. They were CD admirers. At first just coffee,then onto banquets,Christmas parties and so on. It proves one thing you can still have agreat time with nice gentleman not looking for something extra.
No interest in dating men, only women that will accept and treat me as the nice girl that I am inside.
Yes. I came out as gay several years ago now. Before coming out I predominantly dated women. After coming out, I slept with several men and ended up being married (civil partnership) for several years. That marriage ended and since then I've had one boyfriend, although we have just broken up.Quote:
1. Has anyone done it before?
No. It was right for me.Quote:
2. Did you feel guilty later about it?
Addicted would be the wrong word. I only want to be with men, after finally accepting my sexuality several years back. I've only dated men since then.Quote:
3. Did you get addicted to being with a guy?
Do you mean fulltime dressing or fulltime as in only ever dating guys. If the former, then no. If the latter, then yes.Quote:
4. Did you decide to go fulltime after being with a guy?
In answer to the first part of this question, yes it was. It was right for me. In answer to the second part of this question, the best word to describe how it made me feel was complete. Not complete in a cross-dressing sense, but complete in that I was finally being true to myself.Quote:
5. Was it more pleasurable than straight sex? How did you feel?
Just for the record, my cross-dressing isn't the reason why I am attracted to men. I am attracted to men because I am gay. My cross-dressing is simply a facet of who I am. It doesn't define me. Being gay doesn't define me. The two are separate. I don't go with men because I seek validation in my dressing. I'm not attracted to men, or active with men, in order to fulfill some self-centered desire to be regarded as a woman, or to affirm my feminine side. With my ex-husband, my cross-dressing was very much an accepted part of our relationship, but our relationship wasn't defined by my cross-dressing. With my (now) ex-boyfriend, my cross-dressing rarely played a part. Both relationships didn't end because of my dressing, the part that my dressing played in both relationships varied greatly, but with every single relationship I have had, be it with men or (in the past) women, my cross-dressing was always disclosed but was never a primary factor in the relationship happening, or developing, or for that matter, ending.
I write that because from your OP, leona, I get the feeling that you do want your dressing to define any potential relationship or encounter that you may end up having with a guy. I get the feeling that you are seeking validation for your own femininity, and being with a guy would achieve that for you. It seems that you want to be with a guy to fulfill your own innate desire to be regarded as a woman, to take an extra step in trying to tap into your own need to be seen as such in this regard. I will say right now, that if this is indeed the case, then you will find it hard to have a relationship with a man that is as honest and genuine as any relationship you have had with a woman. It seems that you would want a man only sexually, not emotionally, and the same would probably be the case with your male partner. If that ends up working for you, then good for you. For me however, what I seek is a relationship with ANOTHER man, which is every bit as nuanced as straight relationships are regarded to be. What I want is a partner, in every sense. Not a play-thing that taps into a desire to try an encapsulate what I, a man, regards being a woman to be.
Jaquueline hon, there is women who mate with other woman. I read somewhere that 84% of women have played with another woman and it paper also said they felt that the other 16% lied .
Don't know if that's true, so many of that kind of figures a not .
I have always said I am 99% straight.
Never tried it an never will. It just not my taste. Women drive me crazy in that way and men don't.
Now who knows, that does not mean I will not see a man that does interest me in that way.
I dress for me and no one else and I may feel good doing it but I know I am not a woman and don't feel like a woman when dressed.
Maybe that is why I don't then become atracted to men in fem mode.
Hug to you all
Anton jon
Not with a guy. But I think about cuddling with another sissy cd, a lot of the time. Mostly when I am dressed for some reason.
I have been with a few men. A couple of them have been a wonderful experience. I have learned over the years that has a Crossdresser I really can't ask enough questions before the date. I have a set of protocols that I always follow when dealing with men from dating sites and Craigslist.
1. If they can't send a well thought out reply with above 6th grade punctuation then the guy is probably not worth my time.
2. After asking a few questions I ask for face photos and ask them what they might want to do on our date, one wrong answer and he's out. And if he won't send a face pic I won't date him, I have been burned this way before.
3. If they pass all of that I ask them to call me. You can tell a lot about a man by a simple phone conversation. If he won't call me I won't date him. And if I don't feel good about the way the conversation is going I tell him maybe another time or that I am simply not interested.
You can't be too careful with dating men who admire a respectable crossdresser. I think it's wonderful that there are so many men interested in dating me. But I am super picky and I have met with men who I wish I had said no to. In fact, I kicked one guy out of my home for being rude. But on the other hand, I have had some very nice moments with a couple of guys who I love to see as often as I can.
I would still rather date another crossdresser though. It is just very difficult to find a quality CD in my area.
I had a boyfriend for 30 years. So the answer is yes. Is it better than straight sex? Definitely more interesting with lots more variety and a wider use of erogenous areas. I am a bottom so it's always better for me with someone dominant.
1. Has anyone done it before?
I really want to. I fooled around with another CD before a little bit, but we didn't really do very much. I really think from what turns me on. I'm more of a bottom sexually, but that said I don't find much attraction to men... other than the one part.
2. Did you feel guilty later about it?
Not the fooling around I did. I actually wish I would have been less inhibited and gone further.
3. Did you get addicted to being with a guy?
No, but I think I would enjoy it a lot and may get there if he treats me right.
4. Did you decide to go fulltime after being with a guy?
I don't know if that would be the factor for me. I think I feel more feminine when dressed and would be more in my element with guys when dressed, but it's not completely a sexual thing for me. I dress because I want to and I'd dress more if life allowed it, not because I was getting some.
Most Importantly
5. Was it more pleasurable than straight sex? How did you feel?
I think it would be, but time will tell.
I haven't and although I have a wife I am secretly attracted to men and have all my life. I think I sort of new this when I was a teenager I all my crushes were on male pop stars and actors. When I begun crossdressing in my mothers skirt and tights I had the most almighty crush on Donny Osmond. When I was in girl mode I would look at his pictures on magazines, drool over him and like every girl of my age wished he was my boyfriend. I have never had a relationship with a man but when I am dressed as Nannette I am always dreaming and imagining what it would be like to be with a guy but only as a real woman which is never going to happen. My thoughts are often of a really gorgeous guy who used to work in the office I used to work in. I haven't seen him for over a decade but have real feelings for him. I imagine that I am walking down the aisle with him in a beautiful white wedding dress and white stockings or tights underneath. He is a big golf fan and I imagine going with him to golf club dinners in a cute black dress and black tights. I am dressed up in my girly office outfit whilst typing this and getting quite hot under the collar thinking of him. He is not a conventially handsome guy but he is very sporty and macho and all the girls loved him. Most of the guys that attract me are handsome guys in their early 20's and thirties. A couple of months ago I ordered a pizza in the middle of a dressing session. I put my male clothes on underneath my tights and the hottest young guy I have seen in a while delivered my pizza. I didn't know where to look.
That's not always the case. Bicuriousity does not mean you are definitely homosexual and/or in denial of such. To suggest they're all in denial will only create more confusion with bicurious people. Otherwise we could just as easily say that like straight guys, bicurious gay guys are just as much in denial of being straight.
I have been bicurious for about 20 years at least, until just a couple of weeks ago. Do I regret it?
Well, yes and no.
No because it is something I have at last got out of my system thus I'm now much more calmer about it than I have been for years, now realising that I'm ultimately straight. And yes because I now feel I violated myself because of my true straight hetero orientation. As although the first guy I went with we didn't do as much, the second guy I went with I didn't enjoy it like I thought I would and it really done nothing for me, I didn't find it arousing like I do with a woman. In fact it hurt and couldn't wait until it was all over. I immediately ran a hot bath afterwards because I felt kinda dirty and violated afterwards. Now I realise why many women do the same although I realise this one was my own fault. The odour lingered for a while. I now feel a sense of guilt and shame over it, but at least I fully understand why I did it, and that all the fantasies will now go away, and it's been a hard learned lesson. Plus I could never envisage having a loving relationship with a guy, I only ever dream of that with a woman.
So at the very most, when I was resolving my bicuriousity, I became heteroflexible, not bisexual. The difference being is that bisexuality means you can fall in love with both genders, but heteroflexible means you can only fall in love with the opposite gender whilst only lusting after your own, making that more of a choice, unlike bisexuality which isn't a choice. Heteroflexible can be either permanent or temporary, for me it's extremely temporary. So although I have now been with a couple of guys which I kind of regret (yet has resolved my inner conflicts), I now realise that I'm ultimately straight.
I'm also unsure how long I'll continue crossdressing for. I actually do enjoy this more as it's been relatively harmless escapism for me, but I now realise this femme roleplaying and my bicuriousity has all been compensation for the shortage of female intimacy in my life, personally for me. But I would give up all my femme clothes in an instant if the right woman came along, and it became a choice of either her or this.
Even if I'm a CDer, I'm certainly not a sub.
No, I've never been with a guy, however I wouldn't entirely cross guys off my list. I just don't have a desire to actively seek them out.
I got my first taste of male attention as a CDer not long ago... It made me both envy and sympathize with women at the same time. ;p
So how does your wife feel about this?
Your post is the epitomy of fantasy. You know this.
This really annoys me about the cd community. That being being with a man is clearly a fantasy that is apparent in a a fair number of cd's, and yet if a cd comes out to his (sorry her) girlfriend/wife, then they hate it when the next (inevitable) question that they face is "are you gay?".
"No, no, I'm not gay dear wife/girlfriend".
How many here have, upon coming out to their female partner, and being faced with such a question, genuinely answered that question by saying, "well, I'm not gay, but I have fantasised about being with a man just so that I myself can feel closer to what it feels like being a woman".
How many? This is specifically asked of all those in this thread who have thought about it, but never, or ever have any intention on acting upon such a fantasy.
Judging from a lot of you who have responded to this thread - the ones who seek a man's attraction if only to validate their ideal status as being regarded as a woman, well, let's just say this, it's about time that you were actually honest to your partners. And it's about time that you realised why your partners, upon you coming out to them as a crossdresser, would respond with asking if you are gay.
For many, it seems that there actually is a link between dressing and sexuality.
Jenni, actually yes I told my SO that I'm BI and like men. But she knows I love women and like men. She has asked me about it in various ways. I told her that trust in an open relationship is the most important thing.
I have been bi about a year or so before Donna came into my life. Know one has seen me as Donna. But the last few years I dream of a male making love to
me and slowly undressing me. He takes his time with each layer of clothes. He would have to know and be ok with me as a CD first. Trust and acceptances is
Very important to me.