Would you really want to be a woman?

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Originally Posted by JoAnnDallas

I read where a team of doctors were successful at transplating a womb and ovariers from one GG to another. I guess they could as well transplant from a GG to a CD/TG/TS. Then that person COULD experience all of the tribulations that a real GG goes thru. LOL

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The only case I know of, the whole point was just to allow her to give childbirth. They had to give her powerful immunosuppressants, and as soon as she'd delivered they removed the transplanted organs so that they could allow her immune system to return to normal.

A TG would not have the proper hip bone structue to give vaginal birth, so at best they could carry a baby and deliver (probably early) by C-section. Except that there are a bunch of reasons why this is a questionable idea (and it's not so clear it was wise even for the GG), so I wouldn't expect to see it happen anytime soon.

Now look what you've done!

All of you!

With every post, I changed my mind!

Now I'm more confused an conflicted than ever!

I hate you for this question, Salandra!

I love you for this question, Salandra!

deja

Thanks for making me cry, again, you bitches!

i have to say, that i agree so much with the point about feeling ripped off!! i look at other women and sometimes think" girl you dont know how lucky you are!" able to wear their hair a hundred different ways, able to wear such comfortable clothes(at least to me!) and the style and the matching of shoes and the whole different makeup for different feelings or days or clothes or attitudes!! i just feel as though i cant express myself as a man, and i feel as though some women who maybe need a makeover but wont do it , are so lazy !!!! i just want to walk up to them and say " look girl, you could look so cute if you would just cut your hair , let me take you to the mall, and for Gods sake, pluck your eyebrows once in a while woman!!!" ok, im alright now, no im not, im still a guy, wait, "click, click" theres no place like woman hood, theres no place like womanhood" girls(GGs) always remember this, everytime that you leave that house looking awful, or halfway fixed up, remember somewhere theres a guy standing in front of a mirror, going nowhere but looking ready to go to the opera, dancing, etc.) so remember to look marvelous while you can( one day you wont be able to wear that dress!)) btw i gotta go on a diet, im getting sooooooooo fat!!<, suz:heehee:

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Originally Posted by Eugenie

"Would you really want to be a woman?"

Well, had I known what I know now about 30 years ago, I would have answered yes...

But now, being already 61 years old, I don't think it would be worth going through a lengthy, costly and often painful process...

I had that discussion with my wife and she is of the same opinion as I am...

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Eugenie

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I agree, the cost would be too much. I have a good relationship with my wife and daughters, but if I were to transition, I would probably loose that. My youngest daughter is a school teacher, has MS and lives nearby, I don't think that I could deal with bringing any more drama into her life.

If I were by myself, it would be different.

"click, click" theres no place like woman hood, theres no place like womanhood"

OMG!! Suze, I just posted that quote as a new thread topic,asking GG's to tell us how they felt about the paragraph that it's from. I feel the same as you and am really sad when I see how many present themselves to the world, especially in suburban malls.

More exposure for CD's in the real world might actually become another "women's consciousness raising" effort in the real world. Many of us may be dressing to create the ideal woman for ourselves that we haven't been able to find out there.

The mods may move it to the SO's section, I guess. But I can't wait to come back after work to check it.

respect & love

deja

Even the heading "Would" you really want to be a woman, begs the the question "if?"
Perhaps if Salandra had asked: "Do" you you really want yo be a woman", I would likely say No! I am happy within myself as the person I am as the product of life experienced 99.9% as male so far, even the bad times, makes me who I am now. Luckily, I have not had the kind of personal tragedies one would go back in time for to change.:sad:

After that confusing mind bend,,,(here`s another:D) I would not like a sex change and go through all the turmoil connected but I WOULD like to be a shape shifter and be able to change sex to a beautiful woman for a time and live two lives. I cant imagine losing the male side of my life completely. Nor would I like to be keeping a secret life from my loving wife and family. (if I had one) More like, I would like to be able to switch to an alternate universe where time would not lapse between the two (and a gap where I could get some sleep) ( though I think you would go eventually insane!)

As a woman, I might be a powerfull, independant, single woman, forget all the "caring for family- doing the dishes" stuff in this world of aquality, as the editor of a leading womens magazine. or Just a simple single "out on the town girl" with just enough money to indulge in all the best fasions and acsessories in my middle class town.
Or perhaps I would be a porn star! But the most famous porn star in the world!

I hope noone does mind these flights of fancy but we do excist in the world of illusion!

Too many glasses of port?

Lots of innebreated love,

Alison XXX!
A

I have thought about that question for many of years, I have pictured what I wanted to look like, and for a everyday thing as a woman no, but to just try it for a week, I could do that.

In ways crossdressers enjoy the best of both worlds. While sometimes I am tempted to think that it would have been better if I had been born female the fact of the matter is that I will never know what it is actually like to be a woman. However I do know what it is like to be a crossdresser, and now that I have finally come to terms with my crossdressing life has become that much richer.

yes i would rather be a woman. i was raised am man and will always be a man but i can feel being a woman , if that makes sense. i observe them with awe, revere them with respect, i would want to be , yes i would! they have their physical issues as do we all. none are better or worse than the others. some dont go away some get worse with age.but, yes i would.also some go away with age as others get worse for some. yes i would.

For a couple of years there, when I first came "out", I was really into "IT" and felt like my feelings were becoming unbalanced in sort of a female way, so actually had to "gear down" a bit to feel comfortable. This is why I know just how powerful these feelings can be and the old saying that you want something so bad you can "taste" it applied.

There is no doubt in my mind I could have followed through and seen this transition process to conclusion, including possibly physical transition. What I eventually realized though is that I would never be satisfied with being JUST a woman. To truely be myself, I had to combine the feelings to be a whole and complete person and so what I was physically didn't really matter that much any more. So,in essence, I am a man, yes, but am also a "woman" in many ways and can perform both roles with equal ease. Sometimes you more or less have to "live it" to find out what your capabilities really are.:happy:

Well, Salandra, some of us do the chores (the shopping, groceries, washing, ironing) anyway - particularly if we live alone. So, being a woman on top of it would not change all that much for me in that department. It's all about accepting things, like accepting the fact that we crossdress.

Here's a thought for all:
- for a while I lived with a GG. There are many reasons that caused us to split, but to say some: she was a control freak, and very conservative person who could never come to terms with crossdressing - she ridiculed CDs whenever the topic came up or she saw them on TV. That's why I had to be very careful, and eventually, that was one of the main reasons why we split. But: she admitted that when it came to ironing and generally care for clothes, particularly the most delicate ones - I knew more, and was better than she was. So, after a day full of chores, sometimes the fulfillment of seeing them well done makes me feel more of a woman then the dress I'm wearing at that moment.

Hi Lidia, Many people who have the need to "control" everything basically have a lack of self assurance and get upset when things don't go according to plan or don't fit into their own particular "world". I prefer spontaneity myself. Not only does it "spice" things up a bit but sometimes inspires my creativity. This is why I prefer being a "person" rather than necessarily being either a "man" or a "woman" and it doesn't lock me in to what assuming either of those roles implies.:happy:

I agree with you on that one, a PERSON first, everything else afterwards.

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Originally Posted by amandachick

Think about it. Would you be female if you didn't have all the female clothes, makeup, and jewelry?

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In a heartbeat. To me the clothes are not really important. Oh I like nice things, who doesn't? But only in the right context, like a big night out. But they are just clothes, a useful tool to portray to the world how I feel inside. When I transition, I will quite happily just throw on a pair of jeans and a top for everyday, with little or no make up. That stuff is not important.

I've thought abought this a lot and I know I'd like to be a woman. Not because of clothes, shopping etc. But for the sheer joy of expressing my femininity and knowing and developing the inner woman and all that entails. The emotional, spiritual, compassionate and loving woman is amazing in my opinion. I envy her and would love to be her.

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Originally Posted by vivianann

Yes I want to be a woman, I know it is not all roses, but I would be the woman that I was meant to be. :love:

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I agree Vivianann. I agree, I agree, I agree.

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=Bre Rue;1150411]I have had this discussion with my wife recently...
I have thought long and hard and know in my heart that if we had never met I most likely would have transitioned long ago.

Now I would have loved to be born a girl, actually when I was little I always wished for it!
So now here I sit, A place between hurting the one person I love the most and my own happiness. Overall I am a pretty upbeat and happy person, even with hiding my secret. I could realistically keep hiding it the rest of my life and be OK. Although I would never be whole.

So, here we are.....At the crossroads of life.

Good question Sal ;)

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if the one i loved could except my cding i would be in bre's heels right now but sad to say she did not. and i chose the path to transition .
funny how one does not know how good you got it until it's gone

[QUOTE=Teresa Amina;1151238]Hardly a problem for just women :2c:[/QUOTE]

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=dianarg;1151256]yeah, but it gets much tougher if your a TS.

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preach it sister

In all honesty, I can say NO, I would not want to be a woman. I would lose too much in my life that matters to me. So, for me, I'll stick with being a man that just happens to be a crossdresser.

Kandis:love:

Salandra,

It is a choice.

I have not fully confronted and broken through all my barriers in becoming the *man* I want to be, and savoring the fruits of manhood.

When I'm satisfied that I have "been there, done that, ticked it off!", then I could take a turn at being a woman.

Perhaps in the next lifetime?

It is not about preference, it is about expanding my consciousness.

Why leave manhood half-done, to move on to womanhood when I have no overwhelmingly compelling reason to do so?

As for TS's, I concede that overwhelmingly compelling reasons do drive them to take that turn, and make it work.

:rose: Roberta :rose:

i would love to. there are so many things i would do. I will say, i would want to retain my male memories. As a female who knows the ins and outs of the male mind, you could take over the world

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Originally Posted by Salandra

There is no doubt in my mind I could have followed through and seen this transition process to conclusion, including possibly physical transition.

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I answered this question, for myself, very soon after I came out... I looked at all things my female friends suffered (periods, PMT, glass ceilings, etc) and asked myself why I would want that? :hmmm:

I've found my place sitting happily on the fence, with, for me, the best of both worlds...

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Originally Posted by britney

i would love to. there are so many things i would do. I will say, i would want to retain my male memories. As a female who knows the ins and outs of the male mind, you could take over the world

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A friend of mine, who has transitioned, works as a life coach, teaching women how to succeed in a male business world? :)

Use the advantages you have been given (just remember to think of them as advantages)?

Well, the answer for me has always been yes, but I was afraid to admit it. I wish I knew 30 years ago what I know now, my life would have been different. I was even scared a few years back when I started the laser hair removal but I then knew that I had to move forward, Things keep chaning and some things are much easier for me now. I am going to be starting hormones this week and am looking forward to my journey, I am sure that things will not always be easy or could be very difficult but if I made it this far in life being unhappy with living the lie of life living like a guy. I can make it through this journey to find some happiness for myself. It took so long to say that I was a cross dresser and now I have learned that I really only feel that I am cross dressing when I wear mens clothes. :o

I think there is a fine line between reality and fantasy.
In reality, we are all males.
In fantasy, we might want to be a female.
We are all in different stages of crossdressing.
I dont think I will ever really want to be a female.
Maybe, some of you do, and I respect that.
I think problems arise when we can no longer accept ourselves as male,
and try to live as women, and some of us make some very pretty women.
But a little bit of reality here, we are gentically male.

Even though im a full time crossdresser, i still love my **** and how its always awake before I wake up. lol.

I am glad in a great many ways that I was not born female. There are Physiological reasons, cultural reasons, and personal psychological reasons as well.

Physiological reasons: Female Puberty, PMS, Menopause. I have an older sister who was so afflicted at puberty that she would at times cry herself to sleep at night because of the pain in her newly forming breasts. I have known a number of women who, for extended periods of time in their lives had periods so disruptive that they literally could not function. My sister for one, would at times be sick in bed for a solid week from the cramping and nausea. My mother during menopause had mood swings so violent that she sometimes thought she had gone completely insane, and sometimes we did too.

My wife is going through menopause right now, and she is having a rough time with it. There are changes in hormone levels, the changes in her skin, her hair, her emotions, her sex-drive, and more. It really gets to her, has her questioning her femininity. She is sometimes ill, can't sleep, night sweats and "Power Surges". As strong as I am, I am not certain that I could weather that storm personally, it is hard enough having to watch a person you love go through it. I have empathy and compassion, but know that I will never truly understand what it is like to go through it.

These reasons alone are enough to make me glad I was born a man.

There are cultural reasons: As much as we might try to pretend, this culture is far from experiencing anything like true equality of gender. Sure women can work too,but as a man I know that I will likely make more than equally qualified women working the same job.

There is also a disparity of authority, I have often been given more deference and respect over equally and even greater qualified women, merely because I am a man. While in a study group for a philosophy class I was amazed at how often people would ignore the answers given by a friend of mine merely because she was a woman. As an experiment I began repeating nearly word for word what she had said often moments before, and people would think I was brilliant for how well I understood the material. My friend was intelligent, articulate, and a deep thinker yet people seemed to believe that she couldn't possibly know what she was talking about because she was a girl. The truly amazing thing is that it was both men and women who treated her this way.

You will notice too that if a man is assertive then he is confident, secure, strong, and a good leader. If a woman is assertive then she is often considered a bitch. How is that equal?

Lets look at other unequal things; It is much easier to be an ugly man than to be an ugly woman, far more so than men, a woman is judged on everything based on clues of her appearance. Men who like sex are seen as studs, women who like sex are seen as ****s. The list goes on and on, and at every turn stacks the deck against women. I can go to war, fight terrorists, face IED's and rockets, yet I wonder if I have the fortitude to face the daily injustices that my wife, sister, female friends face over and over again all their lives.

While todays society sets quite a few ridiculous expectations on both genders, I think I would choose those faced by men over those faced by women.

Even if I were to go and get total SRS tomorrow, it would still be primarily a physical change, it would not suddenly mean that I felt to my core what it is truly like to be a woman from birth, to have dealt with all of the injustices, expectations, and physical issues that being born and growing up female bring.

I also have very personal reasons: I just plain like being male, and I like being the particular person that I am. Yes I have wondered what it would like to have been born a woman and have come to believe that I am very glad I was born a male. I may never look as good as a VS Model in thigh high patent leather boots, but wearing them will still make me feel good, and all without ever having felt bloated from a period. I know that there are many wonderful things about being female, it isnt all negative. I also know that there are some negative things about being a guy, it isn't all boxer shorts and beer. I am simply glad that I am male, I am also glad to have found that there are a whole bunch of other guys who like dressing in female things, as individual as we may want to be, it sucks being alone.

I think all crossdressers would like to try out being the opposite sex for a while.. and I have fantisized about what that would be like, but in reality I like to be a guy and crossdress..

In an instant, including pregnancy. However I was born with an XY genotype and now I am too old to consider surgery. I guess I have fall back on the old unattainable wish of waking up one morning as a biological woman...which I am mentally anyway...so I will live my life enjoying the time I can spend as Lisa however infrequent those times are.

Yes!!! In a hearbeat or second or less forever!!!
Hugs
Jessica

The simple answer is yes. The more complex answer is maybe. I don't really know what it is like to walk in a woman's shoes. (well literally, yes, but figuratively, no)

At this time in my life, I would not want to become a woman.

Not in a million years. I love women, but not that much :)

yes a millon times yes i want to be a woman i would love to be jessica on a permint bases because i have been living as jessica for years but i want to be her on a perment bases..................:hugs: jessica e. rains

When I was very young I read about Christine Jorgenson and I wanted to do it too, then I realized that being a boy wasn't ALL that bad...however now that all this time has passed... I WOULD have preferred to be born a girl.
(PS I probably would hate my period tho?:eek:)

For about a week would satisfy my couriosity.

thought has crossed my mind but i would never get srs. ive already had 2 sharp objects at my crotch, dont want anymore. 1st was when i was just a very little kid. i was in the hospital getting corrective surgery for my birth defect 'hypospadias' a condition where the urethra (pee tube) doesnt reach the tip of the penis. i still have the scars on its underside. the 2nd was at my one cousins house, playing fetch with his dog. i made the dog thinki threw the stick when i got its attention showing that i still had it, he cam eup to me and placed one paw on my thigh and the other on my left testicle. the next day my crotch started to hurt. i had trouble walking, sitting, etc... so i headed to urologist and told me that the dog made the testicle 3x bigger. i even had an ultrasound performed on my privates. now that was an experience, i thought the ladies who performed it were going to laugh at the size on my cycloptic friend.

if i do decide i would get implants and tell people thjat i have gynecomastia and they should mind their own business.

[SIZE=2][size=2]All right... nice item to come across when not feeling absolutely sure about you're doing... :rolleyes:

I was absolutely sure I wanted to become a woman for a long time. But I have been in bed the last couple of days (flu) and I really started thinking 'what the hell are you doing?' My goal is still clear (at least I think) and that is that I want to become 100&#37; female. But I have to be honest with you I am starting to doubt it. So now I'm feeling like I missed a passing or so.

Perhaps the question 'what do you do if you make up your mind?' should be added...

thanks for this great post guys, I have been reading on this forums for the last couple of days and it has meant the world to me.

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" Would I really want to be a woman "

A one word answer would be Yes.

This is something that has been in my heart for over 25 years. Back then, the process of becoming a woman was not talked about. I read the Christean Jorgenson story and saw the movie several times. Life throws all kinds of adversity at you and dealing with it can change your dreams. Not to go into it, if I could, I would but I cannot....what I can do is live my life as a TG without SRS, and that is as close as I can come.

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Originally Posted by Andrea M. Forbes

Not in a million years. I love women, but not that much :)

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That made me laugh.

My sentiments. It's ok if you could be stuck at 'gorgeous' forever but they fall apart you know when they get older. No six inch heels or any of that stuff.

At least when you fall apart as a guy it is sort of expected of you.:D

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Provided that it would not have the negative consequences it has now (losing any chance of a good job FOR LIFE, losing most family and friends and being left in the dust, scorned by the public consistantly), sure, i'd do it.

All of the little 'issues' people talk about are just like any issues you get in life. You get used to it and deal with it. Waking up earlier each day to put on your face or shaving your legs just becomes part of your routine. There are things to help dealing with periods.

Not to mention, if it really comes to my day-to-day presentation, i'm fully aware that i'm just modifying what i'd normally be wearing if I was a woman to the male world. Colors, patterns, styles, they're all just modified to be 'male' so I can properly function in society.

Cliche, as it sounds, I know I really 'am' a woman (as the best way you can describe gender roles), just working the situation as it is.

So, we're just not there yet. Maybe in 20 years, fine, but who knows where any of us will be then.

Definitely would love to be a woman full time 24/7

absolutely..I just love the clothes they get to choose from depending on their mood. we have pants or shorts, tees polos or button down shirts. flats or flats:thumbsdn:

I wouldn't want to really be a woman, I enjoy my masculine side too. That big said though, it would be fun to have a righteous set of real boobs!!

I don't want to be a woman, I just want to play at being a woman. It really is a lot of fun but being able to be either M or F anytime I want is also fun.

So many responses, where to start? Let's see I already cook, clean, take care of the kids, attend kids school functions, do laundry, dishes, work a full time job, go to college part time, take care of the sick and elderly in the family, shop, plan and balance the checkbook. The other day my teenage daughter told me that in my other life I was a girl. With all this being said, I think adding periods, PMS, child birth, discrimination, and sexual harassment would make a full time woman out of me. The only thing I don't do now is dress 24/7. Thanks for the question, it really puts things in perspective.

If I was around 20 to 30 I would say yes.

Yes, If I can find a good job and be who I am inside. That is a dream come true and what I am working toward, being a womwn 24/7.

Yup - sometimes :o

this thread really impressed me while still lurking in january. your candor and your examination of true intent, ladies, told me this forum is for real people, not pie in the sky.
yes, on the surface, it would be too easy to say, "piece of cake 24/7, girlgon take me away!" that is my honest desire. my gut reaction.
and yet.
many of your responses back then made me think.
just now, i came from town hall where an ordinance the county historic preservation board (which i'm honored to chair)sponsors is being worked out with the town council. in fantasy land, i'm admiring the smart boots and skirt the town attorney who drafted our bill is wearing. but in the real world, i reflect i have invested so much in this community. if i were in chambers in dress, i would have no contribution. small town, they all know me. fantasy vs. particiation in the real world i have helped shape.
also and foremost, i have built a beautiful family whom i adore and have created a place in this world and environ.
i would not take it back.
another time, i mean to post on my passive desire to have outside forces magically transform me, all with no doing on my own part, no consequence for having my selfish way. for my way is undeniably to be female, despite the warnings that its more work than i might imagine. it is my dream.
and then again, here is my life.
so i remain closeted.
such a big chicken.
but without a time machine, which would mean undoing precious lives i just admitted i could never wish to see undone, to be made as if they were not, my sober choice is no, sorry, i could not and will not.
thanks for making me think.
i'll flit around the e-room as a butterfly another day.
for this day i will give thanks for what i don't understand and don't appreciate.
blessings, ladies, blessings,
jessie

Well Jessie, having done it to the best extent possible for me, I'm quite satisfied and I do believe I would be up for the task. However, if that particular genetic combination at conception happened to be XX rather than XY, it wouldn't have been me here writing this, so I've come to the conclusion we are exactly who we are supposed to be, plumbing notwithstanding. The ball is in our court though and we are only limited by our imagination and our resources as to how to proceed and being true to ourselves is the bottom line.:)

No, I can't afford the decrease in income. Seriously, no. I'm just very happy too play one, every chance I get.

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Originally Posted by Echo Logical

You will notice too that if a man is assertive then he is confident, secure, strong, and a good leader. If a woman is assertive then she is often considered a bitch. How is that equal?

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jessie teasches me its okay to be soft. i do not imply that women are or should be "weaker" or less assertive than males. but that i was and am.
sure, courageous and driven towards a task, like climbing as mountain. but too soft to be a "man."
when i knew i was a girl, years ago, i accepted it was okay to be gentle and caring and emotional.
but was still "wrong" all my life.
someone to be fixed
or at least nagged at.
well we know better now. but the damage had been done.
and, figuring it could be the end of the dressing road, since it leads to nowhere but fantasy, for me, i was depressed; am i only good for hiding under rocks, skulking in the darkness? that was last night.
today by the light of living sisters is it as emerging from under, from the dark
into the light of a new day of self acceptance and forgiveness and expression
and love to each of you.
my friends,
jessie