Fascinated a Little Boy this Sunday

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Originally Posted by JohnH
One thing that does bother me about this forum is that the participants adopt a feminine mindset - feminine names, references, and pronouns. It goes beyond simply wearing clothes outside the very narrow constraint of acceptable men's clothing.

I suggest you accept your wearing skirts and dresses as a MAN, and not be secretive about it. It is not the article of clothing that condemns; it is the mindset that goes behind it. You need to consider the feelings of your wife and those around you. Just don't imagine yourself as a woman. If you do choose to stay in this forum I suggest you adopt a masculine name as I have done.

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Originally posted by Sara Jessica
John, while I respect your point of view, I find your comments such as these examples as having an absolute lack of respect for a vast majority of those of us in these parts.

In case you haven't realized, the tg world rests upon a spectrum. There are some with your POV, others wish to emulate women in every way, shape and form. And still others feel the woman inside of them to the core of their very being to the point where the prospect of transition becomes a very real dream, something that becomes a reality for many others as well. And this cursory illustration cannot possibly spotlight every point of light in between.

I have gotten my head around how you present and why it's important to you (no thanks to you, I might add). There are at least a few other members here who are of a similar mindset whose posts are thoughtful and respectful, ones who I enjoy reading whenever they come up. With their insight as to their place in this tg world of ours, I understand their POV and for that I am grateful.

That said, if the use of feminine names, pronouns, etc. bothers you so much, perhaps that other forum you mentioned is a better fit for you.

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Ditto for me.
While i understand the need for diversity, and to accept all for their views and beliefs, this constant urging, pushing, suggesting and otherwise repetitive display of "my way is the right way", has become very tiring.

Please john, i think we all now understand what your way is, could you be so kind as to limit your posts and responses to something more supportive of the greater majority, or at the very least, share your views when you are responding to others like you?
Surely you can find something to share that goes beyond the "we need to be men dresssing in skirts". If not then as Sara says, maybe you would be happier over at the forum you stated.

I apologize to any who thinks my post is in bad taste, i'm trying my best to not be rude or unthoughtful.
mj (Cassie)

As I said I was a little perturbed at KatGRL and my expression of my position of using a male name and male references was a bit more strident than usual. That is my position; however, I have had time to cool down and now I realize I was a bit too harsh.

I will try to suppress my urge for my preferences above in the future, and I apologize to anyone whom I have offended.

Actually I find it fascinating to see the wide spectrum of individuals in the forum - from myself as a "dude in a skirt or dress" all the way to transitioned individuals.

Kind regards,

John

Oh, c'mon JohnH... You wear skirts and dresses to keep your balls cool? How's that excuse workin' for ya'? I'm sure you have equally scientific rationale behing the heels and makeup. You've been pretty clear that your a he-man. It's probably very difficult, coming from such a position of masculine superiority, to just admit you like wearing women's clothes. Is it just a teeny bit possible that you make no attempt to pass as a woman because you can't?

Maybe it's kinda like the reason I don't want to be rich. Can't stand those rich people!

Rhonda,

I must say that your avatar really looks cute.

Yes I do like wearing women's clothes. I never get to see my wife wearing any skirts or dresses, so I guess I'm the one who wears them. Her feet keep her from wearing heels - 1 inch is pushing it - so that is why I have a pair of 4 inch stiletto sandals that I wear, and when I get a job, I would like to get more heels and dresses.

My voice would certainly be the Achilles heel in attempting to pass. I have a really deep voice with a normal singing range that extends to Bb below the bass staff and sometimes I can make a sound down to F# (four ledger lines) below the bass staff. I would really have to work hard in developing a passable feminine voice!

I do not consider masculinity superior to femininity. As I said before, it is very inconsistent for tomboys to be considered OK but shameful for boys to be feminine [janegirls]. This position really demeans the feminine state.

Kind regards,

John

I don't normally do this but;

John you say and I quote "Actually I find it fascinating to see the wide spectrum of individuals in the forum - from myself as a "dude in a skirt or dress" all the way to transitioned individuals."
can I ask why you find this so fascinating?? You do know this is a CROSS DRESSERS SITE don't you???? You do not have to keep explaining the inability to pass to everyone. hell I don't either and I consider myself as a transwoman. I live, I dress and I love as a woman but I still have to shave my face every (sometimes twice) a day, I still have my male parts, I am almost 6 feet tall, weigh 175, have a 34 inch waist and a voice that is like Bowzer on Sha Na Na! but I love me and my life so I do it, the way I want to, and so can you, if you want!!
AND i THINK WE SHOULD ALLOW OTHERS THE SAME OPPORTUNITY, RIGHT????

bobi jean,

I think it would be well for me not to post any more messages on this forum for the time being. I have ruffled too many feathers, and there needs to be a cooling off period.

John

BUT YOU HAVEN'T ANSWERED MY QUESTIONS!
I'D REALLY LIKE to know why you find the diversity so fascinating.

This thread has gone way off topic and is now closed.