Discrimination from WITHIN the gender community

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Originally Posted by Christine XX

It's interesting to me that no one here blames the shop and their SA's for Kays bad experience? A store institutes a policy of being openly biased against TS's and this is OK? And in what's known to be a T* friendly town? I'd be tempted to contact those 20 or so local TS's and begin a letter writing campaign to their headquarters. Imagine if they wouldn't let any black women try on clothing because a few had come in with too much make-up on and smudged some dresses. Where is the outrage???

This stores policy is biased. They have driven a wedge between us, and we are falling for it, and throwing stones at each other instead of seeing the true enemy.

-Christine

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No, I have spoken to the store manager (this after noon). She was very sympathetic. She confirmed that it was a temporary policy resulting from over £600 ($1200) worth of damaged ball gowns from a previous event. An that they weren't deliberately discriminating against transgendered. It was that this time of year they have a lot of "casual" staff and it was easier to instruct then to bar all men from trying on clothes. Apparently, she was made aware of my challenge to the SAs. To quote her, "I told them that in this case, she was almost certainly a transgendered person and would have been Ok". She told me to come back after xmas and the dress I wanted would be "available" in the sale.

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Originally Posted by Christine XX

It's interesting to me that no one here blames the shop and their SA's for Kays bad experience? A store institutes a policy of being openly biased against TS's and this is OK?

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No it's not ok.
But why should one blame a shop that just does what's done withing the TG community.

This is the shocking part.

As long as there is obviously a policy within the TG community openly biased against TG people, it should be allowed that the shop has one as well.
Same rights for everyone.

Genifer Teal's post #44, just about sums it up for me.

I like having TG friends but it has hurt when some of them went on to transition and left me out of their lives. I know it was becuase I was a CDer only and I accept that but it still hurt.

These days I tend to do my outings by myself. I blend in just fine and enjoy myself in my freedom. Its very self centered of me, but I prefer it that way.

*hugs*
Zara

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Hairy panty fetishists! Those freaks? We fetish hairy panty wearers absolutely refuse to be associated with those people.

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Originally Posted by charllote34

Kristy, that is not the way some of us want you to feel If we cant be UNITED what chance do we have in the world ???

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your absoluty right , doesnt change the outlook of some people though , if we cant as a group be united , we cant be to the community as well.

I'm not sure if it's safe for me to post here, because I'm a post-op and this sure looks like a TS hanging party to me...oh, I'm sorry, WE'RE the ones who are ALWAYS looking down on others, my mistake.

I fail to see how someone not wanting to talk with someone else is discrimination, and it's grossly unfair to attach the actions of one person to an entire community. People are people, everyone's entitled to their own feelings, it's a part of being human, and anyone expecting everyone else to be a Mother Teressa is very naive and in for a big disappointment.

I wish I had a dollar for every insult I get from ANY group of people, crossdressers included, should I then spit out a bunch of hate at everyone else, or judge them while I complain that they're judging me? People like that aren't worth my time or energy so I just move on with a smile on my face, maybe you should try that too.

And now if you'll excuse me, it's time for my noose fitting.

Karen Starlene :star:

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Originally Posted by GypsyKaren

I'm not sure if it's safe for me to post here, because I'm a post-op and this sure looks like a TS hanging party to me...oh, I'm sorry, WE'RE the ones who are ALWAYS looking down on others, my mistake.

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Probably we read different threads, can't find the ALWAYS.

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Originally Posted by Marla S

Probably we read different threads, can't find the ALWAYS.

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I see one complaint about one incident with one person, followed by a barrage of "yeah, those transsexuals", so yes, it fits.

In any event, the hostility in this thread is going to end immediately or it will be closed.

Karen Starlene :star:

Hi Alicia,

She was very rude to you for no apparent reason. Sounds like she's probably very insecure with herself. Feel sorry for her, if you can.

And don't let it get to you, you're a good-looking woman.

I've met CD's like that too, so it's not just TS's. Come to think of it, you'll meet people like that in any group, T or not. Fortunately, people like that are a small minority.

On the other side of the argument, we all need to accept the fact that our behavior in public can affect others besides us, both for good and bad, so let's all try to make sure that we're behaving in a manner that commands respect when we're out in public. Let's save the hooker clothes for the privacy of home or for when we're in the company of like-minded people.:2c:

Carol

I see a lot of finger pointing going on here. Why do you suppose that is? Does anyone think that it may be because it is easier to blame others for what happens to us rather than take responsibility ourselves. I am so sorry that the OP's attempt at establishing contact with someone from the gender variant community was unsuccessful. But it happens. However, that is hardly cause to indict the entire TS community as anti-CD or elitist. And just because a few CD's caused someone some inconvenience in a store does not mean that all CD's are rude and inconsiderate. So I offer you an alternative... use your own influence within your own sphere. Adjust your own attitude and do not be so quick to judge another group. Invest some of your own time and try to gain an understanding of those who may see life differently from you. You may just find that there is a learning opportunity for yourself out there just waiting to happen.

thank you all for your thoughts and opinions ... as a admin here my job is to do what is right for the forum ... and also all it's members ..........there is no us/them in our forum we are together all different in ways but the same ... as understanding and accidence is why we are here support is a key thing we give and receive ... this thread will now be closed as we need to remember no one person or person's is better than the other .... we are family lets not let this do something we don't want .....