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I have cd for 30 some years, and recently, by trying hormones, and really thinking it through and being honest with myself, that I had been hiding who I really was, I went on hormones for six months And instantly knrew I was truely needed to be a woman. Have you ever had that experience? If so what were your feelings?
I have used herbal hormones, to enhance my already natural 40 B's. but I have never tried real hormones and have no desire to do so. I am a CD, but nothing more. Under the silk and satin, I am a man and happy to be one. I don't want to be a woman, I just want to wear their clothes!:heehee:
Just wondering.... is that the hormones talking or weren't you almost there anyway when you decided to take hormones? Not that anythings wrong or bad or anything just interested..
I have been dressing (cding) for over fifty years. I am a husband, father, and grandfather. But last October I started hrt with estrogen and a spiro T blocker. It was wonderful. My breasts began to hurt and then they started to develop. For three months I floated in the pink fog. It just felt so right.
But then my breasts were getting too big to hide. I quit the hrt, for now. But I think that maybe I'm transgender. I'm too old for srs. My wife doesn't know about these feelings. She has a lot of stress in her life with both of her parents declining with poor health. Her job is stressful and then in a month our son will be married and our daughter will have another baby. I can't lay this on her as well. And so it goes. Leanne
Spanky and leanne, might I suggest seeing a therapist, that is experienced with gender issues. I don't know where you got the hormones, but please see an endo, don't self medicate. Hormones isn't something to play with, they can kill.:hugs:
Good question, Karren. Upon reading some threads I've been curious about that myself.Quote:
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Originally Posted by Joan Merrie
Dressing is one thing. Making changes in your body chemistry can be fatal. Talk to an endocrinologist that specializes or at least is practiced in TS medicine. Now. XX and XY body chemistry is different, and not easily changed, even by surgical removal of organs.
I always like CDing. But going from CD to TS is huge step, and this step must be taken with doctor's supervision. I wish one day I can take that step too.
I think I have an interesting theory though. I love growing up as a boy becoming a man and all (not really have the feeling of being a girl trapped in a male body). But I just thought wouldn't it be great for anyone who wants to just be able to spend half your life as a man, and half as a woman. :daydreaming:
I'm confused, OP's very first post on 5/18 talks about getting the green light from a therapist to go on hormones and by 5/21 we've "tried" hormones and have been on 'em for six months.
Transitioning isn't something you try, nor are hormones. And having injected estrogen or spiro or whatever coursing through your veins doesn't necessarily make one a woman either. You should know what you are, and what you want before going on the juice, hopefully with the help of a qualified therapist.
I think 9 of 10 of OP's posts have to do with hormones. Makes me think, but that's just me.
i have to be honest im sitting here in my bra and panties with my forms in and i just sent an e mail to my freind from work and i told her i just wanted to be a woman like her just like her without all the bs that goes with being a woman and a mom thats a big responsability i just feel theres a woman inside of me that wants to come out so badly its hard to discribe its an incredible drive that cant be controled its weird and kinda sucks in a way but i (WE)have to go with it and im somehow gona make myself passable if it kills me its that important iv hidden myself for to long i have to be me without the surgery its time for patricia!!!:battingeyelashes:
After readng a number of these "transitioning' posts I am beginning to think that a lot of this I want to be on HRT..is a lot of fantasy. I want to be on hormones.but don't want breasts. I want to be on hormones but I want to stay my manly self. I want to take hormones so I can develope breasts. Way too many seem to take HRT very lightly....
Hormones are no joke,serious medicine with serious mind and body altering effects. Nothing to play or to induldge a fantasy with.
However, in MY case, it's TOO LATE for that!:sad:Quote:
Originally Posted by Shanon Bond
I SHOULD have spent the first half as a woman! With a sexy young body, I MITE have gotten away with being homely!:D
THEN, becoming the skinny old man am now anyway, wouldn't seem so bad!:brolleyes:
I kind of knew this for a few years before I even got the offer of hormones...Quote:
Originally Posted by spanky1959
hi well i've been cding since i was 6 and is not until now that i'm 34 that i started seeing a gender therapist and then start hormones, so i thought i was to old for this, but after i made the decision of going to see the therapist then she told me that is not to late, if that is what i really want to do with my life and must important if going this path is going to make me feel happy. so yes i know i want to be a woman :)
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Originally Posted by Sara Jessica
Some people, it seems, have a difficult time keeping their stories straight.
I'd also be concerned about the sanity of anyone messing around with his body chemistry... and the literacy of said lunatic posting what is obviously a transexual matter on the section of the forum clearly labelled "cross-dressers."
Multiple failures to RTFM? Or rampant fantasy?
I am seeing a gender therapist on monday. You are right, Dont mess with with any drug without a drs, close watch. By the way, I have always wanted to transition. A life long desire. Can't wait, to be my true self. YEH!
And still do as evidenced by the latest post, or simply a failure to read and understand what has been written. Hormones and fantasy are a dangerous mix, especially with so many impressionable minds around here. I'd put a lock on this one but it's not really up to me.Quote:
Originally Posted by MissConstrued
What am I missing here?
I see people talk about "trying" hormones as if they were some OTC thing you pick up at Walmart. I thought the effects of hormones were irreversible? :doh:
Some effects are permanent, some aren't. The TS folks can probably give you a more complete run down on what permanently changes, and what doesn't. I do know that testosterone and working out over long periods of time will give you a permanent linebacker body build as far as skeletal development is concerned. I don't remember what all the irreversible effects of starting female HRT are, but I'm guessing at least some additional breast development is probable, as well as diminished sperm production. Try googling it and read read read, like everyone else does. There's tons of information out there just for the asking.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jenny Brown
I have reserched hormones for years, know the dangers. The criticits are set in there ways. I respect . but for those of Transexual people, it is something they need, my therapist says it is no more dangerous then smoking, Overweight,You name it. All I want is to be who I am
This is a big step but you're doing the right thing in seeing a gender therapist. It helped me two years ago even though it was only 3 sessions. It didn't give me the answers I wanted to hear but it gave answers that made sense, that made me take a realistic look at myself. My case turned out different from how your case might which is the wonderful thing about one on one counseling from a professional.
[SIZE="3"] The use of Hormones alone does not make you TS, just as dressing in women's colthes make you a woman. It's all in the mind. [/SIZE]
interesting question.. i will do the same as i did last night when i asked my self the same thing.. i'l sleep on it. hehe.
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Originally Posted by spanky1959
No more dangerous than smoking... what a relief !
Who said anything about being critics??? It's about calling a spade a spade. Again, hormones do not make you who you are!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by spanky1959
I will continue to say that I find these threads to be unusual at best and inappropriate at worst.
For me, my realization came when I started regularly CD'ing. I am not positive yet, and haven't started hormones, both due to cost and because I wish to consult a gender therapist for a final confirmation, but I am pretty sure at this point. As soon as I have a job with healthcare again, I'll speak to a therapist and go from there.
But yes, I too have pretty well moved on to considering myself transsexual.
Why?Quote:
Originally Posted by LisaM
We do know a number of self-identified CDs go on to transition and self-identify as TS and that they seem to be a definate minority of CDs.
So why is this thread unusual or inappropriate?
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Originally Posted by kellycan27
I dont know ........ hmmmm lets find out.Quote:
Originally Posted by battybattybats
I am glad you did years of research to realize the dangers of hormones and that your therapist [who isn't a doctor] told you they were not dangerous. Thanks for clearing that up! :thumbsup:Quote:
Originally Posted by spanky1959
Can someone now give me light, pass me that bucket of chicken and slide that bottle of Scotch over while I'm waiting for my nondangerous mexicali medicine to arrive?
I am glad you have been seeing a therapist.
Yes don't mess with drugs [unless they are no more dangerous then smoking, drinking, over eating or handling asbestos] unless your therapist gives you the OK!Quote:
Originally Posted by spanky1959
Oh Sorry I meant to say I am glad you are seeing a therapist on Monday.
I hope they can help you with your life long desire to transition and get you the hormones that you haven't taken yet but you need to do that with.
Oh, I'm sorry, I meant to say I hope the therapist you have been seeing for the last 6 months [since this Monday] who was giving you hormones [they weren't] will start or continue to give you the hormones you were or weren't taking and will continue to do so for you.Quote:
Originally Posted by spanky1959
And that they help you to reach your life long goal [that you've had for 6 months after starting hormones] to transition.
Can I ask two questions?
When your done with the DeLorean can I borrow it? :D
And what time does Da Plane! Da Plane! leave the island?
ummmm...No. Sorry, but I don't think this information is accurate. :doh:Quote:
Originally Posted by kellycan27
"Oh what a tangled web we weave when first we practise to decieve"
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:eek: Really? sorry, just being a little sarcastic........AGAIN
Which way did they go George? which way did they go?
Oh em gee... Where to start?
Ok, first off, let's separate a couple of things here without even identifying the... people... for lack of a better word, who posted them.
First off, this forum is for CDs, but especially as related to both CD and TS issues, there's NOTHING to prevent someone from posting something about TSs here. In this case, the question is very specifically directed at CDs! Yes, it's VERY relevant to being in the CD forum. For those of us with little reading comprehension and even less reasoning capacity.
Second, yes, although there may be some inconsistencies that aren't addressed properly here, and they may well be "red flags," all we can do here is recommend that the OP see the appropriate doctors to be monitored and adjusted properly. Jumping on her and even insulting her might make her just defensive and not do it to spite you.
Third, let's get something real straight here: A LOT of TSs start confused as to who they are. I did. As I said, I can't be positive, mostly because I have serious self doubts all the time, about everything, and it's why I'll be seeing a counselor, but when I do, if nothing explicitly exclusive of that comes up, I'll be asking to start hormones. Plain and simple. I don't want to waste my life not being who I feel I am.
I'll address more bitching when I feel like rereading this thread and come across more spanking that needs to be done. Not the fun kind.
My understanding in a nutshell, based on what I've read so far, is there are two types of TS's: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blancha...awrence_theory
This topic is probably going to get moved, but for those of us CD'ers ho are not familiar, read on:
1. Homosexual TS, whom are basically effeminate boys & men, who are generally gender dysphoric.
2. Autogynephilic transsexuals, who are not particularly effeminate men, but want to embody the female traits for sexual motivation, expression.
One reason I am bringing this up is because about 6 or 7 years ago a chidlhood friend came out to me, and wrote a long letter expressing the 'female in a male's body' manifesto and became transsexual , which I think this person was entirely convinced was the case, and wanted everyone else to believe it....Yet, my friend was one of the lease effeminate men I have ever known. The point I'm trying to make here is that psychiatrists are extremely aware that many TS candidates claim to be homosexual transsexuals because they are too ashamed to admit they are autogynephilic transsexuals. They think they can pull a fast one over the medical professionals, but they are wrong.
Pardon the response, but The Blanchard, Bailey, and Lawrence theory is plain old bullshit.
And your "understanding" is nothing but (I won't say it this time) either. I suggest you get to know some actual transsexuals before espousing nonsense like this.Quote:
My understanding in a nutshell, based on what I've read so far, is there are two types of TS's:
This topic is probably going to get moved, but for those of us CD'ers ho are not familiar, read on:
1. Homosexual TS, whom are basically effeminate boys & men, who are generally gender dysphoric.
2. Autogynephilic transsexuals, who are not particularly effeminate men, but want to embody the female traits for sexual motivation, expression.
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Thanks, Sharon. That comment made me cringe, until I read yours!!
Thank you Sharon. I couldn't have said it better myself.Quote:
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Hi Ladies,
I am by no means an expert on this, even as a CD I have been relatively closeted, having not been out of the house en femme yet or, for that matter, do I have an entire feminine outfit I could wear out on such a trip. So I preface my comments with that. However, my instinct on this is that the issue of CD to TS is more a matter of internal feelings and thought processes, and perhaps some chemistry and brain wiring, so I guess I feel like I can at least comment on it despite my lack of "dressing" experience.
That said I have had thoughts about these kinds of issues since adolescence, and for some unknown reason spent the better part of the last weekend reading the posts on the TS forum and some of the links that are posted there. I am now contemplating what that amount of time spent reading those means. Irregardless, I would strongly advise any CD even thinking that they may be TS to go do just that, because the warnings that a number of the ladies here have made are, from what I read, right on mark.
Are there some inconsistencies in the posts on this thread, and are some of the related topics apparently taken a bit too lightly? Yes, I would have to say there are. But I think the amount of attention this thread has received should show us that is IS appropriate for a CD forum. Why? Well, a few things I read in the TS forum indicate that it is from CD group of the transgendered that most if not all MtF TS persons originate. It was stated that sometimes the person wasn't even fully aware of this aspect of their personality when they began dressing.
Additionally, the whole process of "transitioning", at least as it was described, was about as far from a picnic as we are from the moon. Two descriptions I saw used the analogies of an "atom bomb" and a "tornado" going through your life. Many TS women upon fully transitioning find themselves without their friends, family, SO, money, job and career. Basically ground zero. It certainly doesn't sound like fantasyland to me. Definitely not something to "try out" nor to do without all the right professional advisors beside you. The drugs used ARE potent and dangerous and can (and do) apparently kill a minority of those taking them.
So all I am saying, is if anyone reading this is thinking they might be TS, then go read what they go through and about the tough, arduous and sometimes dangerous path they face. Is it the right path for some? Yes I think so, if done with the proper medical and therapeutic support for the right reasons. As for myself, I think I would be rightfully scared as hell to wake up one morning and be certain I was really TS. That said, I can't rule out the possibility of that happening.
So in closing be fully informed and get the proper help before doing anything like self medicating and such. From what I read anyway, it could just save your life.
>>>hugs<<<
Pauline
LOL. I'm your newest fan.Quote:
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With that opening gambit I don't see much chance of that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sharon
I fought with everything I had against it but like a behemoth it overcomes all resistance in the end until I found myself with a stark choice... Live or die.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pauline Lauren
Thank You for pointing out the fact that your knowledge DOES indeed fit in a nutshell.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nathalie66
I won't even get into a discussion of BB&L, The 3 stooges of "mental health".
But if you care to expand your knowledge, give this a read: what_is_gender.htm
What can I say, you already said it best! Thanks Sharon.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sharon
Paulie, for someone that claims to not be an expert you seem to have a pretty damn good grasp on things. Don't sell yourself short.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pauline Lauren
For lack of a better phrase, scared is good, it makes you think long and hard.
It has not been a picnic for me so far, but the friends I have made along the way and the clarity of acceptance has helped me a lot.
Yes, some just walk into the light,
and some of us have to be dragged kicking and screaming.
But either way still gets you to the starting line, sorta speak.
PS: Welcome to the forum and I hope to see more of you.
First, Peace & Love to everyone.
Aftergetting a full shot of mud in the eye, I'd be willing to get a better understanding based on your experience, for my understanding at least. Iadmit my education on these matters is probably short and way too mcuh of a nutshell.Quote:
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Originally Posted by Nathalie66
My understanding in a nutshell
Thank You for pointing out the fact that your knowledge DOES indeed fit in a nutshell.
I won't even get into a discussion of BB&L, The 3 stooges of "mental health".
But if you care to expand your knowledge, give this a read: what_is_gender.htm
I came here for a better understanding, only to find myself in a firebath.
I started my transition months ago and see my terapist and take hormones andmade a importmant decision to transition and cant wait to be myself.
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Well what do you expect with statements like...
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At the end of your spiel, you add that little dig in there, as if you know for a fact those "professionals" are right.
I personally felt a lot of hostility in your statement, and perhaps a bit of bitterness?
If I am wrong, then I apologize, but for a TS person like me, to hear someone, who is not me , even insinuate that I'm not what I KNOW I am, it causes me(and other TS girls) to sharpen our claws ad get ready for a fight.