Bra Check

I don’t go out dressed because I’m concerned that I don’t present well or just can’t pass because of my stature (I’m 6’2) and deep voice. I do however dress at home nearly every evening after work and underdress everyday in panties.

Occasionally on weekends my undersressing will include a bra or bralette. I do try to choose a top that won’t show bra straps through and often have changed tops before going out because I felt that a bra strap might be showing.

There are a couple of restaurants near by where I am a regular. I have underdressed with bra and panties in both of these establishments. Long ago in one and more recently in the other one of the waitresses or hostess will walk behind me and rub or pat me on the back or shoulder. Most recently I was wearing a bra when the waitress came by and rubbed my back, above the band and between the straps (so she didn’t feel the bra).

This has me wondering. Even though I take care to not allow the bra to show through do some still spot it?
Are they checking to see if they can feel a bra strap? I don’t think it’s the case with the most recent back rub as it was above the band and between the straps.

What would they do if they did feel a bra strap? Would they say something to me personally, announce “he’s wearing a bra” or …?

call me crazy but I like it when the outline of the bra strap shows through my shirts or blouses

Most people could care less what you are wearing:2c:. Some times it is possible to not see the bra strap, but by the way your back looks in you shirt or top it is possible to tell that there is something under the shirt or top. But I have noticed that more and more men are wearing undergarments that help with their posture. These undergarment can feel like a bra with it is actually a brace to help with posture.

I hope this made sense and helps.

Nancy

They probably wouldn't pay much attention and not even notice that they felt anything.
I've been wearing sports bras. Quite comfortable and to the best of my knowledge if the shirt is loose enough, don't show strap lines.

OF COURSE they can tell you are wearing a bra. Don't think for a minute that no one will notice.

Do they care? No.

Will they announce it out-loud? No. Only your drinking buddies are THAT impolite.

Relax. Everyone knows by now that some men wear women's undergarments. And nobody really cares.

Stephie

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Originally Posted by Carrie Davis

call me crazy but I like it when the outline of the bra strap shows through my shirts or blouses

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I agree with Carrie.

Once I was at a trade show and I wore a bra under a denim shirt. A salesman put his hand on my shoulder/upper back and seemed startled for a second. The next day I wore a similar shirt without the bra. I made a point of going to the same booth and the same guy put his hand on the same spot. I think he wanted to see if he felt what he thought he did. Surprise!

I would love to have that happen to me sometime. I really get a good feeling when someone touches my bra straps.


Tracy

It happened to me at work. A female associate rubbed my back as she walked past. Then she grabbed the bra and snapped it. Payback for my youthful antics. Andrea

I was wearing a bra while in the Wal-Mart pharmacy area last year and a woman in teh isle came up to me and began making conversation then rubbed my back. She lingered with her hand on my back for several seconds. I have no doubt she knew I was wearing one. :o We had a pleasant couple minutes of conversation with lots of smiles and went our separate ways. She had her hand on my bra strap nearly the whole time and never said a word about it. :D

The very first time I ventured out wearing an underwire bra, un-padded and under a thick, checked shirt, an ex-secretary of mine came up behind me in a supermarket and put her arms around me, saying that she had always wanted to do that in the office.

She must have felt the underwires, but when I turned round nothing was said about the bra and her expression told me nothing.

The experience did not stop me wearing bras - I love them.:)

Now I do not really care if they are noticed. Nobody else really cares either.

I would agree, most do not care enough or are polite enough to say nothing. A few months back, winter, in class in guy mode with bra on. Sitting in front row of 300 seat full auditorium/class room. Seated front row, 4 seats with girls on either side and my female lab mates seated behind me. Each lecture is recorded and pod casted as given and professor usually with in a few steps of front row.

Without thinking I grabbed the front of my bra to adjust and snap, loud! No reactions I know of. The podcast recorded it for all to hear. I know the females around knew the sound!

Let's get this straight (excuse the pun).....You were dressed in drab, i.e. as a bloke, and you were touched by another bloke. Why? People don't do that normally. Was this a gay pass?

I also agree with Carrie. I like my bra being noticed when in guy mode. I know it happened once, and I got a harsh look, but nothing was said. Perhaps I like the attention. I don't really know or care.

[SIZE="4"]I also wear bras under my male shirts. I've been hugged, had my back rubbed. and even had a cocktail server in a casino stand behind me at a blackjack table with her hand on my shoulder and run her finger along my bra strap!!! Nothing said in all the encounters I've had over the years. :daydreaming:
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Yes they can be noticed. I wear a bra much of the time. I talk to neighbors, friends and go about anywhere I happen to be going with one on. I’m also convinced that most people could care less and never say anything. People also see what they expect to see and miss things that are common. Most people never see a woman’s bra line because it is an everyday occurrence and the mind filters what we notice. The other day I was waiting in an office and noticed a very pretty girl with a great figure and a thin t-shirt top on. While I could tell she had on a foam cup bra her bra lines did not show. The color was such that it blended with her skin. As she was slim and wearing a proper fitting bra you did not see her bra lines.

Several years ago I was at a gas station wearing a solid color t-shirt that could not be seen through. As I was paying in the line and bent over I’m sure the bra lines showed. As I walked out, just as the door was closing, a woman in the line announced, “Did you see that, that guy had a bra on.” I was the heaviest I have ever been. When men or women get heavy the bra lines tend to show more as they show indentation where the elastic is. Also your back tends to be more rounded and the straps are raised against the fabric more.

It is amazing to me that I can be in guy mode wearing a blouse with tucks (clearly showing my B/C projection) shear enough to show bra lace, talking about the kind of bra I am looking for and clearly very knowledgeable about them. Yet, after telling clerks that it is for me in the beginning they seem surprised later that I’m actually wearing one.

The exception is young girls. I think that it is because bras are a new factor in their lives and their observations are enhanced.

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Originally Posted by Maryesther M.

Let's get this straight (excuse the pun).....You were dressed in drab, i.e. as a bloke, and you were touched by another bloke. Why? People don't do that normally. Was this a gay pass?

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I think this was directed at me ~ he was a salesman, directing me towards the part of the display he wanted me to see. I didn't find it unusual.

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Originally Posted by Andrea Reynolds

It happened to me at work. A female associate rubbed my back as she walked past. Then she grabbed the bra and snapped it. Payback for my youthful antics. Andrea

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That would make me red as a beet, then of course I'd be happy all week! :)

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Originally Posted by Dee Baker

What would they do if they did feel a bra strap? Would they say something to me personally, announce “he’s wearing a bra” or …?

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Not to worry. They were probably just undercover Homeland Security agents spot checkin for bra bombs. Just another area some states spend the millions of dollars they are given in grants each year to spend as they wish on security projects...:love:

Hey, your tax dollars at work...makes you feel "safe" doesn't it...? :heehee:

Most of those situations are much bigger in your head than in reality. We tend to have "selective" paranoia when we are out dressed. You are probably just fine...

Most restaurants do not look for ways to publicly humiliate and ruin their patrons lives. It is just not a great marketing tool for some reason...hehehe

I don't care how careful I was before coming out the bra strap is noticed. My daughters both said so. Ooooops

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Originally Posted by Dee Baker

Even though I take care to not allow the bra to show through do some still spot it? Are they checking to see if they can feel a bra strap?

What would they do if they did feel a bra strap? Would they say something to me personally, announce “he’s wearing a bra” or …?

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Originally Posted by lingerieLiz

People also see what they expect to see and miss things that are common. Most people never see a woman’s bra line because it is an everyday occurrence and the mind filters what we notice.

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I agree with Lingerie Liz, and so does my wife, as she too has told me that I should wear my bra in boy mode anyway even if my straps or the little adjusters slightly show. People tend to see what they want to see or what they are expecting to see. People don't expect to see bra straps on a guy so if they do see something that looks like a strap or that they can tell that you are wearing something under your shirt I don't believe that they automatically think "OMG ... he's wearing a bra!" :2c:

If someone touches you to seemingly (?) to check if you are wearing a bra I think it's highly unlikely they will say anything to your face. That's to say, I've had people touch my back or shoulders before now in away I thought wasn't necessary (especially GGs) and none of them said a thing to me. I say relax ... wear your bra with pride :)

If someone is standing still & you have moved beyond them, you passed. A majority of us will be read- forget about it what others MAY think ( or may not ), you have a right to go out & live life.
If a waitress is continually rubbing your back, maybe you should ask her out.

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Originally Posted by Fab Karen

If someone is standing still & you have moved beyond them, you passed. A majority of us will be read- forget about it what others MAY think ( or may not ), you have a right to go out & live life.
If a waitress is continually rubbing your back, maybe you should ask her out.

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My experience has been that if a waitress rubs your back, it's because she wants to take you back to her apartment to have an orgy with you and her friends.
If you resist, god help you, for she will bring the wrath of god down on you for rejecting her advances.

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Originally Posted by vetobob9

My experience has been that if a waitress rubs your back, it's because she wants to take you back to her apartment to have an orgy with you and her friends.
If you resist, god help you, for she will bring the wrath of god down on you for rejecting her advances.

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Where did you say that restaurant is?

For me and many others the answer is: Camis. Or a slip. Generally covers any outlines in back and smoothes the bra outline in front.
Julie

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Originally Posted by Tanya83

Where did you say that restaurant is?

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Arizona

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Originally Posted by Julie Gaum

For me and many others the answer is: Camis. Or a slip. Generally covers any outlines in back and smoothes the bra outline in front.
Julie

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You wear the cami over the bra?

I am 5' 10" and also have a very masculine voice! But I go out dressed enfemme almost every day, most often to eat out since I am a widower! But I wear no wig and no makeup. In other words,I am just another guy but wearing a skirt, and a bra under my feminine top!

Who care what the waitress sees? She is not going to yell it out loud, not if she wants to keep her job and get a tip! I know quite a few waitresses, and a few aiters, who definitely know that I crossdress. Do I care? Not in the slightest! It is my life, and as long as what I do is not illegal I will keep doing it. I have been a CD for most of my 78 years and haven't had any problems yet! Don't expect to have any!

BTW, the cami always goes over the bra!!!

I thought camis were worn without bras. Both do a decent job of keeping forms in place it seems.

I've always worn a bra and the cami over it. Most of the ggs I know wear them for modesty. Or for the layered look. Some do have a shelf bra built in. A lot of the girls wear a strapless bra under them.

You begin with panties and move up to bras and/or camis. Panties are a gateway item to the bra....let's face it.

I went to Lady Grace to buy a nice fitting B cup bra to specifically wear under polo shirts or dress shirts. I wanted a nice fit in front and my C's were too much. Finding a B in a 38 is not as easy as I thought. I went through maybe 10 bras and then located the one I wanted. They were very helpful. I explained exactly what I wanted.

As to wearing it....usually I toss on a bra or camisole 2-3 days a week. If I am going shopping I always wear one now. I also bring a shoulder bag with my wig and a pair of heels in it for effect when I try items on. It helps add to the visual.

My experience has always been positive while wearing one. I try not to flaunt it, but try to remember I am wearing it so when a sales associate needs to slide behind me to reach an item, for example, and there is a light touch to the back, it is on the strap with a simple...and she might say excuse me....not HEY, IS THAT A BRA???

On a positive note, I have never been refused to try anything on in a store when wearing a bra or cami, and frequently have been asked if I want to try something on without having to ask. Call it an icebreaker perhaps. Those are nice pluses.

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Originally Posted by vetobob9

I thought camis were worn without bras. Both do a decent job of keeping forms in place it seems.

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I would say it depends. The regular, everyday camis I buy wouldn't hold up a thing. But there are those with shelf bras that are designed for going bra-less.

I was wearing a bra under a sweater once and I got Ma'amed by a bargirl in the casino. Must be the back hook showed... I'm wearing suntan pantyhodr anfa short slip with a bodice now under a white tee. It doesn't show, but the straps could be felt. After my wife gets home, the pants and tee will come off.

I think I've written this elsewhere, but it bears repeating...

Bras with adjusting buckles in FRONT show much less than those with buckles in BACK! Either find bras with buckles in front, or get a convertable bra with removable straps, then reverse the direction of the straps so the buckles are in front.

Also, wearing a camisole over the bra, as long as the cami has relatively wide straps, helps cover up the bra.

A braslip would also avoid a closure in back. A short slip is easy to tuck in to pull-on slacks, avoids an exposed back, and hides the tops of panties and pantyhose.

I do wear my bras and medium forms out in public and to work quite often , I have been hugged by GG's , I have had my back and shoulders touched by both men and women and have never had any negative comments or reactions from anyone about what I'm wearing.

I do believe that most people are too busy in their own lives to worry about what I'm wearing for underwear , or if they do notice they really just don't care.

Wear what you want to wear and be happy with yourself , don't worry about what other people might or might not think about what your wearing !

:) Tomara

Thank you all for posting your replies. You have made some very valid points, some of which I should have figured out on my own as I have been shaving my legs for several years now and no one has said anything to me about it. I guess it was the physical contact, especially when I was wearing a bra (I thought I was going to jump out of my skin at first, not knowing what to expect next) that I just wasn’t so sure about. Now that I can think more clearly about it I would say that the physical contact is a good thing, it was in a kind and caring way and I should be grateful for it.

Thanks again for your posts, I feel as though I have made some great new friends here as well as gaining a little wisdom.

Hugs,

Dee

I agree with Julie about the use of a cami. However I think part of the allure about wearing feminine attire is the way it looks, feels and is cut. Men's undergarments are so boring and mainly cotton. Yuck. The things we choose to wear are very pretty and should be seen and appreciated. If only in our imaginations.

Home from work this evening…nothing in the fridge looked good so I decided I would go out for dinner. Decided I wanted something from the menu at the restaurant where the hostess rubs my back so I decided I would put on a bra before leaving for the restaurant (I didn’t wear a bra to work, don’t tell anybody):o.
Made it to the restaurant, took my seat at the bar and sure enough after a while the hostess seats a table beyond the bar and on her way back to the hostess stand she walks behind me and rubs my back. I don’t think she felt the bra strap. She was rubbing more in the middle and from where she was standing (directly behind me) given her height (she’s kind of short) and the height of the back on the bar stool I don’t think she could have felt the band. Had she been more to the side when she rubbed my back and went lower she could have felt the band or had she rubbed more toward one side she would have felt a strap. So we talk for a couple of minutes before she has to get back to her station. I always enjoy chatting with her.

Ironically there was another regular (GG) sitting next to me when I first arrived, we chatted for a while then she said she had to go because she had to take her daughter bra shopping. Glad I hadn’t just taken a drink before she said that.

if going someplace put on a vest. this little item will cover up a lot.:heehee:


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I have to admit, maybe it is because of the era I grew up in (those who grew up in the early 80s know what I am talking about), but I am a bit surprised that some people feel it is ok to come up to a total stranger and touch them like that.

As I have said before I wear a bra daily and have for years after being outed by ex wife sure sometimes the straps or adjusters show but this is my life I wear what I want too a day with out my bra is a bad day

it all depends on the top. Even a dark solid cotton top will show a hint of shoulder straps. Patterns tend to break up the outlines. I often wear cami's or bra under my tops, regardless of fabric/pattern. If anyone notices, they haven't mentioned it.

ok they may have seen you before wearing a bra and now when you come in some one pats you to see if you are or not wearing a bra they are not allowed to say anything unless you bring it up first and no they would not yell out loud about what yo are wearing just be glad they are not at the bra snapping point lol

When in doubt, I'll wear a racer-back (front close) bra. That gets everything down between the shoulder blades and behind the pony-tail so its really difficult to see from the rear in any kind of shirt. Over time, I have had several people "find" my bra strap. None (but one) ever said anything to me...and I got the one good. It was shortly after I had transitioned back to male mode and was still a narrow trunk and decent projection. I'm not sure what came over me at that moment, but I whipped up the shirt and bra and said "YUP...keeps these critters under control" and shoved my shirt back down. The look on his face was priceless...

Jenn

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Originally Posted by Missy

ok they may have seen you before wearing a bra and now when you come in some one pats you to see if you are or not wearing a bra they are not allowed to say anything unless you bring it up first and no they would not yell out loud about what yo are wearing just be glad they are not at the bra snapping point lol

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I have wondered if that is what they were up to.

[SIZE="3"]I've noticed repeatedly that I attract much more attention from the ladies when I'm dressed! For some unknown reason they just can't resist a man in heels and stockings and a skirt! I've not tried to analyse it, I just enjoy it![/SIZE]

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Originally Posted by NV Susan

[SIZE="4"]I also wear bras under my male shirts. I've been hugged, had my back rubbed. and even had a cocktail server in a casino stand behind me at a blackjack table with her hand on my shoulder and run her finger along my bra strap!!! Nothing said in all the encounters I've had over the years. :daydreaming:
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That action by the casino girl wold have turned me on.