wearing girl clothes in boy mode.

Okay. I have a closet of dresses, skirts, skinny jeans, stretchy tops high heels etc. you get the picture.
I got a wig and makeup, and absolutely no drive to use said wig and makeup. Well maybe a little earth tone eyeshadow and eyeliner, but wait. Is it really necessary for me to look female to wear may stuff?
Where does one go to be out in such a get up without the wig and makeup?
I'm honestly not as pretty as I was. Male hormones, a dirty job, a few fights and a divorce have taken their toll.
I once went on a date with another man even though I don't think of myself as gay and wore my girl shoes with otherwise male gear. It felt pretty darn good. How far can one take this when among ordinary society?

Don't know about Vegas, but here in Missouri it's better to blend in! Here you may not have to pass but unshaven and no wig will get you laugh at or starred at to say the least! Hugs!

You will get some varied and impassioned answers to that question! I asked this question in my thread:

http://www.crossdressers.com/forums/...ses&highlight=

Wear what you want as well as you can and tread carefully. Welcome to the forum as well.

How far can you go? As far as you want, darling!

Wear things that you like and feel confident in. I think that if you start out subtle (like with shoes - who notices shoes unless it's someone who is already disposed to like cute shoes?) and see how it goes, you will be able to add more and more girl clothes into your everyday repertoire as you get more confident.

Like with any other fashion choice or appearance change, you've got to own it. If you for one second appear nervous or selfconscious about it then others won't take it as well. But if your attitude is, 'I love myself and I love wearing the clothes I love,' people will respect that. Remember common 'rules' of hygiene - work dirt CAN be washed off and even GGs wearing skirts get really bothered about having leg hair or visible armpit hair so think about that - and no-one will be able to say anything other than, 'that guy is brave and stylish!'

Babeba's post reminded of this.......

....."Own it". This in itself sounds silly, but when you put the dress on, wear it....don’t let it wear you. Make the mental decision that when you’re dressed, it belongs to you, that it is you, and you want to share it with her. All else will fall into place....

You can go as far as you want to go. For me, that is all girl all the time. Keep in mind, ther are some people out there that think they know better as to what you should wear. Be careful but go have fun with it.

Wear what you want, where you want, I go out all the time, in what I call my 50/50, half masculine half feminine.

This is me buying a chainsaw at Lowe's, while wearing a denim skirt and 5 inch high heels. (hope the picture is not too large)
http://members.cox.net/ratzilla/marsha/lowes.jpg

OMG Intertwined! I have to get 2x4's at Lowes tomorrow... should I wear my breast forms and make-up? I wish I was as brave as you! OMG!

I've been wanting to add my flats to my male ensemble... I think it would actually work surprisingly well.

Since I discovered the Adrogynous dress look I haven't totally dressed in female cloths. It is such a rush, WoW. I would say there are different levels of dress, I could not muster the nerve to go to Lowe's in a skirt and heels although my hat is off to those that do. I do wear make up, what I call day time make up, not as heavy on the eyes amd lip stick lighter than what you would use in the evening. It seems that certain articles that I wear do attract attention from others, larger hoop earings will attract attention to your facial area then of course your makeup gets attention. I'm always on the look out for another 50/50 male........

I go out in androgonous mode all the time and except for the occassional stare, I've never had a problem. Start off wearing maybe just one item in public until you gain more confidence to add more.

I've dresses in boy mode during school but I wore some black panties underneath my boy clothes, so they weren't visible at all...it did feel amazing as the satin touched my skin!=) If the people at school only knew... lol

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I've been wanting to add my flats to my male ensemble....

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I've been wanting to do the same thing!

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I go out in androgonous mode all the time and except for the occassional stare, I've never had a problem. Start off wearing maybe just one item in public until you gain more confidence to add more.

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Good advice :thumbsup: IMHO if you would like to add a little "flair" in boy mode and try to be a little more gender neutral then that's the way to go. I wear fairly obvious girls clothes in boy mode but they're stuff like girls jeans, tees, hoodies, baseball caps and Keds. I add earrings and eyeliner too. It's nothing too excessively feminine. I've been mam'ed quite often .. which gives me quite a thrill, but that said, I've been sir'ed just as often too. Mostly I've found people do neither, regarding gender specific greetings to me. Anyway, I encourage everyone to have fun with it if that's what you want to do, and I agree with JamieTG ... except for people looking at you with a slightly perplexed look or a double take, people tend to ignore you.

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I've been wanting to add my flats to my male ensemble... I think it would actually work surprisingly well.

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I wear flats and mary-janes in male mode all the time. A funny look now and then, but nothing negative. I've seen the baggy-jean-underwear-showing look get more stares.

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Wear what you want, where you want, I go out all the time, in what I call my 50/50, half masculine half feminine.

This is me buying a chainsaw at Lowe's, while wearing a denim skirt and 5 inch high heels. (hope the picture is not too large)
http://members.cox.net/ratzilla/marsha/lowes.jpg

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Good for you Intertwined! A bit more than I would be willing to do (I did wear heels with pantyhose and shorts to the mall once), but it works never-the-less.

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Don't know about Vegas, but here in Missouri it's better to blend in! Here you may not have to pass but unshaven and no wig will get you laugh at or starred at to say the least! Hugs!

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I can definitely see that. A lot of ignorance and hatred for anything that's not "normal" in this state.

I can't say I have ever gone outside dressed up (unless going between buildings at my old place tucked back in the woods) Lol. But I can honestly say I wouldn't do it unless I looked passable. Which as of the moment is not possible. But good for you to those who feel free enough to.

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Good for you Intertwined! A bit more than I would be willing to do (I did wear heels with pantyhose and shorts to the mall once), but it works never-the-less.

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But intertwined, you mean no one said anything to you about the way you were dressed on this day?

Here is a sample of what I might wear out...
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5107/...6814809c57.jpg

My late wife always did my makeup and fixed my wig so I could go out as Stephanie! When she died 6 years ago, I decided that since my makeup skills, along with my wig skills, are nonexistant I would just go out as a male Stephanie!! I dress totally enfemme, but wear no makeup and no wig. And I go everywhere like that, including Loews, Home Depot, and everywhere else you can think of. I am not as big as Intertwined, but I still don't get negative comments!! I do get a lot of compliments on my outfits, from both men and women! The problem that many on this forum have is that they think people pay attention to you. Unless you dress real outlandishly, they don't!! Most people don't care what you wear, as long as you are decently covered! Of course, if you are a really hot "model," people are going to look!! I certainly don't fit that bracket!! LOL

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OMG Intertwined! I have to get 2x4's at Lowes tomorrow... should I wear my breast forms and make-up? I wish I was as brave as you! OMG!

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Yea, it takes some guts, but, keep in mind, im at a point in my life, I just don't give a damn what other people think. I was nominated for Employee of the year this year, and wore a white dress shirt, tie, pencil skirt, argyle tights & black 5 inch dorsey pumps to accept my award... so far, only good comments and questions.

I feel when it comes to dressing everyone can do what they wish. I don;t think there is a right or wrong way.It's up to ones own desire.:hugs:
Angie

Intertwined, no one will question someone who is buying a chain saw, no matter what they wear. But GGs don't go to Lowe's in heels--those concrete floors call for rubber souls.

Why r u asking us, SFB? It's only U that u have to please! Look how Brenn dresses! Because that's what she likes!

Personally, I have NO desire to out in public dressed like THAT!

But, I'm probably not one to talk! As I stopped on the strip to buy gas in Vegas a few weeks back, dressed in my silicone female suit and a stripper's outfit!

@Brenn I wore something much like that today, to do work in the yard. My purple crocks "alice" Mary Janes, black track shorts, and a Thundercats T-shirt. Red leggings to kinda match up the Thundercats logo.

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I can definitely see that. A lot of ignorance and hatred for anything that's not "normal" in this state.

I can't say I have ever gone outside dressed up (unless going between buildings at my old place tucked back in the woods) Lol. But I can honestly say I wouldn't do it unless I looked passable. Which as of the moment is not possible. But good for you to those who feel free enough to.

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I feel for you. I found more acceptance among strangers than Friends and family. My ex wife allowed it till I was married. Then took it away. My mom and brother are on my side.

@ Brenn 50/50. I been leaning towards 40/ 60. A jean skirt (mine are short) still works with my khaki sneakers, and a tank top. I of course would wear panties. I guess I've done myself the greatest disservice. Doing the double life thing. People I know might be used to me wearing my stuff if I never hid it.

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I wear flats and mary-janes in male mode all the time. A funny look now and then, but nothing negative. I've seen the baggy-jean-underwear-showing look get more stares.

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I wanna do that baggy jean underwear with my panties. But it's just too bold for me as yet. I too wear my Mary Janes with everything. But I,m reserved about how often I do it. I did it today. Got a collection of Mary Jane shoes. I got a thing for em. Hence the user name.

@ Rachel Morley Check. I do wear my skin tight jeans whenever I feel like it. But with the kids actually sporting that look these days, it's hardly girl clothes any more. I do have my girly biker boots that get a lot of miles these days. But I haven't brought myself to wear a skirt or a super form fitting top yet.

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I've dresses in boy mode during school but I wore some black panties underneath my boy clothes, so they weren't visible at all...it did feel amazing as the satin touched my skin!=) If the people at school only knew... lol

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I was passable in middle school and paraded i front of people I knew without being spotted. I caught plenty of boys looking. But that all changed pretty quick during high school.

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I go out in androgonous mode all the time and except for the occassional stare, I've never had a problem. Start off wearing maybe just one item in public until you gain more confidence to add more.

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Roger that girlfriend.

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Since I discovered the Adrogynous dress look I haven't totally dressed in female cloths. It is such a rush, WoW. I would say there are different levels of dress, I could not muster the nerve to go to Lowe's in a skirt and heels although my hat is off to those that do. I do wear make up, what I call day time make up, not as heavy on the eyes amd lip stick lighter than what you would use in the evening. It seems that certain articles that I wear do attract attention from others, larger hoop earings will attract attention to your facial area then of course your makeup gets attention. I'm always on the look out for another 50/50 male........

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Torn up jeans with print pantyhose underneath, or emo stripes. That'll be me.

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Originally Posted by VioletJourney

I've been wanting to add my flats to my male ensemble... I think it would actually work surprisingly well.

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Doing it. It's not as head turning as you might think. But it does get noticed. I wore mine on a date. It helps to have a girl on your arm.

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OMG Intertwined! I have to get 2x4's at Lowes tomorrow... should I wear my breast forms and make-up? I wish I was as brave as you! OMG!

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I'm leaning towards hot pants and a slinky tank for that. with work boots.

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Babeba's post reminded of this.......

....."Own it". This in itself sounds silly, but when you put the dress on, wear it....don’t let it wear you. Make the mental decision that when you’re dressed, it belongs to you, that it is you, and you want to share it with her. All else will fall into place....

You can go as far as you want to go. For me, that is all girl all the time. Keep in mind, ther are some people out there that think they know better as to what you should wear. Be careful but go have fun with it.

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I'm just not woman enough to stay all the way girl, I'd like to walk the line between masculine and feminine. That is like what I wish I could make mainstream.

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Originally Posted by Babeba

How far can you go? As far as you want, darling!

Wear things that you like and feel confident in. I think that if you start out subtle (like with shoes - who notices shoes unless it's someone who is already disposed to like cute shoes?) and see how it goes, you will be able to add more and more girl clothes into your everyday repertoire as you get more confident.

Like with any other fashion choice or appearance change, you've got to own it. If you for one second appear nervous or selfconscious about it then others won't take it as well. But if your attitude is, 'I love myself and I love wearing the clothes I love,' people will respect that. Remember common 'rules' of hygiene - work dirt CAN be washed off and even GGs wearing skirts get really bothered about having leg hair or visible armpit hair so think about that - and no-one will be able to say anything other than, 'that guy is brave and stylish!'

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You rock so hard! I give you props.

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Originally Posted by Cynthia Anne

Don't know about Vegas, but here in Missouri it's better to blend in! Here you may not have to pass but unshaven and no wig will get you laugh at or starred at to say the least! Hugs!

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Been to Missouri. Wouldn't try this there. I wander if I just need a my girlfriend to feel confident doing this, is that just weak? It is.

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Originally Posted by Rachel Morley

Good advice :thumbsup: IMHO if you would like to add a little "flair" in boy mode and try to be a little more gender neutral then that's the way to go. I wear fairly obvious girls clothes in boy mode but they're stuff like girls jeans, tees, hoodies, baseball caps and Keds. I add earrings and eyeliner too. It's nothing too excessively feminine. I've been mam'ed quite often .. which gives me quite a thrill, but that said, I've been sir'ed just as often too. Mostly I've found people do neither, regarding gender specific greetings to me. Anyway, I encourage everyone to have fun with it if that's what you want to do, and I agree with JamieTG ... except for people looking at you with a slightly perplexed look or a double take, people tend to ignore you.

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I love Keds too. I know most CDs don't like them, but I feel they are som feminine and girly. Some you can even get away with wearing in guy mode.

Just do it. I've been indoors alone for so many years, and I finally decided strangers don't bite, and stares and even laughs don't necessarily need to hurt. Now I'm not out to anyone I know, So I only do this miles from home where I'm unlikely to be recognized. Like you I got the heel fetish. I started going public last fall. Started with my favorite patent black 4" pumps, knee length hose and my longest guy jeans worn low enough to cover all but a shiny pointy toe sticking out. That and a beautiful "click-clack". Guess what, 99 out of 100 people don't even see what is right in front of their eyes. Occasionally someone will visibly stare or turn their head, but so what. I went to the mall and to shoe stores - loved slipping in and out of those pumps to try on other shoes. Nobody cares. Sales assistants are very caring and helpful.

Lately I've moved up to a skirt and heels along with a tee shirt or guy top. Intertwined's style. Yeah, more people notice that, but so what, you got to not give a damn what they think. Go forth with this mindset; "No girl is envious of my look or style, but every girl is envious of my confidence!"

The closest I've come is wearing the corset, hip pads, panties, hose and stretch chic jeans but then covered it all up with sweatshirt... Felt great, but haven't done that again. It's either all or nothing for me.

Renne.....