Do Gays Hate Crossdressers?

It's really strange, and at times funny, of how we crossdressers can be portrayed. Let me explain: I have a gay friend who posses tons of adult magazines and videos spread around his place..all showing guys doing guys. Now I don't have anything against with my friend expressing what his taste or sexual origin is but I was really offended when I asked him about crossdressers. As we were driving to another friend's place the topic about crossdressers came up as we discussed a movie.
I asked him, "What do you think about crossdressers?...many say they aren't gay, but are more like a woman" He got upset right away at my questions and stated "Crossdressers are so weird, they have some major issue to be wanting to dress like women...I think it's sick"
After hearing this from him I confronted him and stated that many crossdressers weren't gay and just had the need to dress, others preferred to be treated like a girl and felt they had an inner girl in themselves..like me. He just could not accept my side of the story, he thought that if a man is not attracted to a man as a man then he's sick. This really got me upset to say the least.
So I reminded him that many "straight" people used to think the same way of the gays, but they are now not as ignorant and are able to accept them better. He didn't say anything. But when he finally did, he stated that crossdressers are just a bunch of drag queens who don't want to face the fact that they're gay.
I obviously ended the conversation because I saw no point in going in circles when he just wouldn't understand what I was trying to say. What do you think? If you have gay friends...have you ever asked them what they think about us, crossdressers? Thank you for reading my post. Kisses...Lisa:battingeyelashes:

Thank you everyone for your feedback on my questions, it has been very fullfilling. I can see things a bit more clear now. I hope to share my other questions will all of you here. By the way since I can't link my webpage here yet you can google my blog by googling " mymysterycd blog " it is how I got started and expressing my feminine side online...because in the public I'm still discrete. It's only a simple blog...but I do have some pics a bit revealing but no nudity. Thank you once again for your great involvement on my posted thread. Best to all. Kisses...Lisa

I don't understand what the fundamental difference is. For some reason, I've said this before, we're ranked right above pedos and rapists on the "pervert food chain". I don't like it, and I don't understand it. Although your friend's reaction is typical, that still doesn't mean it should happen.

Hey! We have moved up the food chain? Celebration time!

Seriously, we are more complex than straightforward gays. They are happy with who they are, they just want to be with the same sex. We are a little more 'je ne c'est quoi'?

Hi,

Ill answer from another side, im not accepted by as i have found out the hard liners who are lesbain ,
Because thet dont accept males yet many were married & have children so if your a male as in . trans dressers transsexuale or T V . & those of us who are female / male or intersexed. oh dear not sure now about our female to male . no dought ill find out .

so if theres a hint of male like my self in thier eys im out . yet i do have some neat friends who & i dont use lesbain because they are our friends Jos & Dejarn & my self ,

Now not all are like that. many will accept us on just being who we are or who i am .

As far as i can tell i have a few gay guys who are allso my friends no prob's there, because they know my background . tho i have wondered that some will only see me as a woman
Im with a group of rainbow familys that i know & most if not all accept me , women of cause,

You are right many not just gay will see dress'rs will be seen as off beat & not quite right in the head , thats just the fact of the matter . tho my women friends who i have shown many pics of my dresser friends all dressed up tho they thought they were women at a ball i attended . were all men . till i told them thought they looked so good...that was in syd austraila, 3 year ago.

It comes down to if a person wont's to know why a person is the way they are then nothing will change in regards to how people see those who are different , not just the trans community. its called . being a ... P R ...public relastons person. some thing i do ,

This is another ? concerning, L B G T wont work because theres to many splenter groups & even then with in there is infighting .

The difference about all of this is , THE ...WONT....DONT . side of the person's concerned. it's not about understanding its they dont wont to,

Pity tho because i do have so many neat friends who are not bothered & they are real friends.

...noeleena...

The first thing to ask your friend is "How would he know?" (i.e. does he know this from personal experience as a crossdresser or knowing a number of crossdressers well [larger samples in breadth and depth are more accurate]). If he hasn't done this, he is not entitled to an opinion; if he has, it's an indication of self-loathing that may originate from other causes.
The plain truth is that prejudice is not confined to one race, national origin, gender or gender ID, religious or sexual orientation, or any particular group or groups; it is exhibited by some members of any or all of them. Your friend may represent a very small minority or the majority of any group he may be part of, but assuming that all of that group feel the same way is as erroneous and prejudiced as your friend's opinion.

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Ill answer from another side, im not accepted by as i have found out the hard liners who are lesbain ,
Because thet dont accept males yet many were married & have children so if your a male as in . trans dressers transsexuale or T V . & those of us who are female / male or intersexed. oh dear not sure now about our female to male . no dought ill find out .

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I personally believe that there another reason why you are not being accepted by the lesbian community
Noeleena because I am deeply involved with my local lesbian community & I had not one girl, but two
different girls hitting on me just last night at our local LGBT nightclub & monthly LGBT party. I was told
recently that by the leader of our local lesbian group that every other woman in the group wants me
to be involved. Don't ask me why this is happening to me and not you, but for some reason they have
taken a real shine to me. My friends on here who are also on Facebook can also verify this. ;)

I don't know about crossdressers, but as a transsexual female I have had some gay guys who have
been rude towards me & others have tried to talk me out of having my SRS because they obviously
would like me to keep the male parts which are so important to them. So that is my 2 cents worth.

I've known I was a crossdresser since I was 7 or 8. I couldn't tell you if I was gay or not because I've done it with guys a few times but I only do it with people I've known for a long,long time. I also like women and I am totally fascinated with their comportment and costumerie. I had a female SO for years but she passed away in 2005. I'm very interested in fem stuff. In fact,I basically consider myself to be a transvestite but I like this forum best out of all the ones I've tried because the others were too psychological and psychiatric or else they were pretty much for people who are in an income range where they can afford to buy diamond tiaras and go to Europe 5 or 6 times a year.



I've known a lot ot gay people who keep a few fem items stuck away in their things and they do dress sometimes but there are just a few who seem put off by crossdressing. There was someone in the forum who is actually a freind of mine who posted a year or two ago about a gay psychologist and a crony of his who are trying to promote their rather agressive "cure" for people who crossdress. this cure employs crude and strongarming methods to force individuals out of their "obsession" and sadly,the guy and his colleague are both gay! Without intending to sound reverse prejudicial,most of the gays I've known are intelligent and lively to be around. So this is hard to beleive! I think we could be a very powerful social force to be reckoned with if everyone in the LGBT spectrum stuck together.

I do not want offend you but that friend of yours is the sort of bigoted moron that I really hate.

A prime example of those that are discriminated against, discrimitating against other minorities.

HE IS THE ONE THAT IS SICK, and ignorant as well.

Most people do not have their jerk off mags laying around the house either.

This guy is a friend? He is part of our problem.

The only gay guy I know IS a crossdresser as well...he is the only crossdresser I know of personally that is gay.

Some gays also have a problem with bi-sexuals too.

You have to be careful about drawing assumptions about a group based on the words and actions of a few. Based on the words of some who post on this sight, a gay person could equally ask "Do crossdressers hate gays?" I have a gay friend who pushes for T inclusion (using the wide definition of transgender that includes crossdressers) in the LGBT movement. He knows I'm a crossdresser, and is very supportive. I'm sure there are gay people like your friend, I think many of them are like the rest of the world; their image of crossdressers are the weirdos you see on Jerry Springer and bad TV movies. But I there are as many, maybe even more, like my friend.

One interesting aside: some gay friends of my wife have repeatedly told her they don't believe there is such a thing as a bisexual male. They say anyone who claims to be one is actually gay but too afraid to completely admit it. :eek: Even funnier, they do not think that bisexual women are simply lesbians in denial. It seems to me that they are projecting their own experiences on to the world around them. I think this a good lesson: we all need to be careful about assuming that our choices and rationales will directly apply to everyone else.

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Originally Posted by Pythos

A prime example of those that are discriminated against, discrimitating against other minorities.

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This happens right across the whole LGBT spectrum and there is no group
is any bad or worse than the other when it comes to bigotry & discrimination.
And the sad part is that this type of divide does absolutely nothing to help
our own cause, in fact it weakens it. I have recently ripped it up the leader
of my 'transgender support group' for suggesting to me that she was going
to kick a new transsexual girl out of the group because she was struggling
& had not started her hormones or made any effort towards feminisation.

I have also argued with the same trans-woman after she came out & said that we should be
exclusive & only supporting transsexuals when we identify as a transgender support group. So
I brought this up with my pyschologist who originally established our transgender support group
and she was horrified to hear what this trans-woman running the group was doing, especially
to new members who needed our support. So at the last meeting I have put the motion forward
to establish a proper committee & install some democracy into running our group. So far I have
had a very favourable response and we will be voting on the at our next meeting.

Bigot: A prejudiced person who is intolerant of any opinions differing from their own or intolerant of people of different political views, ethnicity, race, class, religion, profession, sexuality or gender. (Wikipedia)

Anyone can be bigoted, whether they are a part of the GLBTQ community or not.

I'm sure there are many gay men who don't think that CDs are freaks, although they won't be attracted to a man who wishes to present as a woman:

http://www.crossdressers.com/forums/...dressers-doing

I have some gay and lesbian friends and I frequent LGBT venues from time to time. In my own personal experience (which may be different from your own) I've found mixed reactions from the gay community, ranging from being welcomed and accepted with open arms, to being completely ignored. When talking to people I've found complete bewilderment as to why I would want to dress as a woman if I claim not to be a drag queen. However, I have never had a feeling that any one truly hated me or thought I was weird or anything like that. My overall feeling is that a lot of the LGBT community as a whole don't understand us but they don't particularly like or dislike us either. We're just there as the "T". Lisa, it's unfortunate, but IMO your guy friend is just like all the other bigots in the world .. an a$$hole.

I think some Gays do hate crossdressers,went to a wedding 4 months ago ,one of my relatives was there,that i use to get on with ,he deliberately ignored me and made it so ovious.his mother said he hates transexuals.Not a good freind to have.

Just because a person is a potential target for prejudice, does not mean they are free from prejudice themselves. That also applies to CDs. I could cite many examples of prejudice by people who believe themselves to be accepting of everyone, but they don't have anything to do with CDing so I won't.

Prejudice or lack thereof is a property of individuals not of groups. Any time you decide that a person must be prejudiced because he belongs to this group, or that a person must be unprejudiced because she belongs to that group, your judgement is almost certain to be wrong. In fact, basing such a judgement based on groups IS prejudice.

CK

There is not just one "gay community" here in Winnipeg. The two long-lasting gay clubs are merely one block apart and some people feel more comfortable in one and some feel more comfortable in the other.

The cross-dressing group I am a member of meets at one of the gay clubs, which is community owned and operated. They have made us quite welcome, provide space rent-free, given us donations, are always happy to see us, complement us, and generally make us feel good. Every year for the Pride parade, they specifically ask us to be on their float. When they have had Board of Directors vacancies for the club, they have asked some of our members if we would be willing to serve (and some of our members have so served.)

Now, I don't mean that when I wander in on a busy weekend night that the members all look across the floor and simultaneously say, "Hi, Bob!"; there are quite a number that I have never met or talked to. If any individual there has personal objections, they keep them to themselves, and go about doing whatever they are doing, not fashed that the club is the sort of club that openly welcomes cross-dressers.

Many people dislike or even hate people different than them. I think it is more of a personality disorder that seems to afflict a lot of humans. The reason such a person doesn't like some other group of people does not have to make any logical sense. Some people just feel the need to see some other class of people as defective so that they can feel better about their own insecurities. If this person ever learns not to dislike crossdressers, he will likely pick some other group to dislike.

More "us v. them". Do gays hate crossdressers? Do blacks hate whites? Do Koreans hate Japanese? Do Christians hate Muslims?

Yep, I think sometimes they actually do. But in my experience, not all the time, not most of the time, not a majority of the time, maybe not even a significant minority of the time, but nonetheless...sometimes. So do we label the whole and base our reactions on...sometimes? Do we assume that they're all hateful and bigots based on the actions of the few? I sure as hell hope not, because that seems to be just as judgemental and bigoted to me.

In my years of involvement in the GLBT community and having had a number of GLB friends, I've very rarely witnessed bigotry from GLBs toward transpeople. Sure, some GLBs don't understand being trans, but that's hardly different from TGs who don't understand being gay. You don't have to look long on these boards to find the latter and you don't have to look hard to find some serious anti-gay vitriol too.

If you're looking for hate, you'll find it easily. Perhaps it might be better to start looking for shared values or experiences and build on that instead. Perhaps if we *all* took a little more time to understand the other person, be willing to educate them, and be receptive to learning something new ourselves, then the world might just be a little better place for all of us to live.

I am with Rachel on this one. There always will be someone who hates someone else or something else. However, that one, or minority in no way truly represents the sentiments of the majority. I have only had positive results in all of my encounters, which are a lot here in the San Francisco area and based on my SOP of talking to that stranger(s) next to me or across the room, with gays and lesbians. So, regarding the OP's experience, I would quickly write that off to an individual(not a group) who has his own problems which then manifest themselves in the expressed hate of others.

Jets fans hate Giants fans, Mets fans hate Yankee fans, people are always looking to group up with people who are similar to themselves, and set themselves apart (and as superior) to those who are different. Nothing really new here. I've known tolerant homosexual people, and others who insist I'm just in denial because they feel I hate the thought of being homosexual myself. There's one in every crowd......

Two of my best friends in the world are a pair of gay men and most of my time with them is spend dressed, they love Darlene. We go out for dinner and the movies and have the best of times. Both of them are aware that crossdressers are even a smaller segment of the population and in some peoples view we are not as accepted as they are.

That may be the case with older LGBTs, but the newer generation of LBGTs are very accepting, and see crossdressing as a part of the TG spectrum.

Loretta,

I think the younger generations will be much more accepting, and not just tollerant of those that are different, and may even have more of our numbers within them. It is ones of my age and older that hold to what I consider outdated, and damaging views of others.

In Brisbane, the only safe place for CDs to go to socially is at gay bars, like the Sporties, etc. 95 percent of the gay men there tolerate us, but dont socialize with us....they basiccly ignore us. You do certainly feel the hate....and i've heard them say things when I've walked past them. They certainly are very ignorant, and foul mannared. They cry for acceptance, but judge us. Work it out!!!!
I, myself have been intimate with men (I'm seeing a man at the moment), but weirdly enough, I dont consider myself gay as a whole, cause I'm not attracted to all men. Its more my female side wanting intimacy and love.
I wont ever fall into the category of most gay men, cause they do think they are above us, and feel that they can say what they like about us and treat us terribly. I know by experience.

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Originally Posted by Pythos

Loretta,

I think the younger generations will be much more accepting, and not just tollerant of those that are different, and may even have more of our numbers within them. It is ones of my age and older that hold to what I consider outdated, and damaging views of others.

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Younger people, yes, are more understanding of us in the gay scene, cause the odd one has come over and sat with me.

I have a couple of gay friends, and I told them about this side of me and they don't get me.
They don't seem to be too interested.
I've also been out at TG events where there is a mix of straight/gay/bi, and there are plenty of TG/CD that do enjoy other TG/CD....can this be what is defined as pansexual?

I'm attracted to all things femnine.

I think as a whole that crossdressers are the least understood/known segment within the LGBTQ community. For the most part we are a pretty closeted group. There are few advocacy groups specifically for crossdressers rather than the whole transgender spectrum. I think this has to do with why many people even within the LGBTQ community do not understand crossdressers.

I know when I go out, most people just assume one of two things, that I'm a gay guy in drag, or that I'm transsexual. When I tell them my sexual preference is for women they are blown away. When they asked if I want to transition and I tell them that I have no idea but for now I just like going out dressed they are often times pretty shocked. However I've never had a bad reaction. I don't say to people "I'm a crossdresser" because of my personal feeling that we do have that stigma that we are perverts.

“I've found most people to be very open to new ideas, as long as they do not change anything.” :D

Your question is too generalized for me to respond without hesitation but...

I’m confident there are some gays who do and some who do not. I had a business partner and intimate relationship with a woman who was “bi” but predominantly lesbian. Her group of lesbian friends were mine as well. I often went to gay bars with them. (I was “hetero and non-CD”) I never got the impression from anyone anywhere that gays “hated” TG people.

I did get a few impressions that they are not "attracted" to CDs.

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Do the gay community hate us........I would have to say in general that is a No.

I think the word we are looking for is TOLERATE.

Do the gay community tolerate us..........I would have to say in general that is a YES

I would say that it would be the same response if asked, 'Does the straight community hate gays'

hate is such a harsh word. but it does say it about right.
most gay's i have know have nothing good to say about a "guy" in a dress. even if said "guy" is really a girl in the wrong body.
some gay bars allow us to be there...but if you went into the wrong one you would be lucky to make it to the icu ward.

yes it is about how gays were treated a number of decades back, but now the tables have turned and it is time for the "gay" crowd to lean how to accept others.

it is a sad but true way of life, it does not matter where or with whom you live, play, work, hang with, there will always be "that" group over there that will be the focus of a mob hate mentality.
and this does not just deal with the subject at hand but most any one. as they are all good people. but in a group to fit in then the bad can take over easily.
it has been show and proven the "mob" mentality is a very strong force to be delt with and if one wants to be friends and fit in with others one must conform, it takes a strong will and fortitude to over come the stigma of not always going with the flow.

were would we be if we gave into the "mob" mentality?

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When I was younger, there were a lot of comedy TV shows that would portray gay men as exaggeratedly effeminate, wanting to be women or cross-dressing.

Maybe the cross-dressing o effeminate somehow triggers the bad feelings that they had in their youth, while being mocked in this stereotypical way.

Gays with this attitude are stupid and bigots, or have traumas because of what I just theorized. But again, it's just a theory.

That's a pretty broad brush to be painting with there.

Personally, the most accepting people of my SO and I have been gays. In fact, to my knowledge, we've not had any problems with gay people. Now the heterosexual ones are a different story...

I have a long time Gay friend, he is fully aware of my Bi-sexuality and has seen my photo's of me dressed. First words to me when he saw the photo's is "OMG, Your Hot!!". So I think that each Gay person has there own individual thoughts/feelings on the subject...:doll:

I suspect some gays, quite reasonably, are offended by the generally held, but spurious association between cross dressing and sexual preference. NONE of the gay men I know are into cross dressing, and frankly none of them are attracted to me en femme.

I have encountered resistance and hate from Gay and even TS people I have met,understandable that not everyones going to be ok with us.
But If anyone has a problem with Crossdressers in my circle of friends and have no interest in their preconceptions being challenged ,then they are not my friends anymore,I dont need negativity in my life

Sophie

This question should only be answered by CDs that have frequent contact with the gay community.
I kinda fell under the gay crossdresser label for a few months before I figured it out and there were indeed a few guys who expressed their disdain for dressing like a girl. I wouldn't say that all "gays hate us" but I can definitely say that generally, that community is ambivalent ...at best. Your average gay man is quite happy being a man, and cannot relate to a man who wants to dress like a woman. In my experience the femmy guys are the worst offenders.

Before someone who knows a gay guy online or watches Logo pipes in to disagree with me, let me remind you that I frequent the Castro and hang out with many gay people of all stripes and while I don't claim to be an authority, I have seen enough rolled eyes and heard enough bitchy comments to be qualified to put forth an opinion. ;-)

Hi Suzy, I do agree with you and at times I just take a long break from being around him. Thank you. Kisses. Lisa

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Originally Posted by Badtranny

This question should only be answered by CDs that have frequent contact with the gay community.

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Melissa,

So what is wrong with any feedback from a transsexual who is heavily involved with the LGBT community like me?
Don't you know that there are many gays assume that transsexuals are just crossdressers or drag queens too?
One of my main agendas is to educate my local LGB community about transgendered people to reduce this crap.

I don't like painting everyone in any lifestyle with a broad brush. I am sure there are SOME gays that hate us, just as SOME of us CD's hate gays. Tolerance is not a given simply because we share in a generally misunderstood alternate lifestyles. Or as wrong to say all lesbians hate men or worse yet, hate all cross dressers. In the few gay bars I've been in, dressed fem, I have been at least tolerated and treated with respect by both gay males and lesbians. It's like saying all transsexuals hate crossdressers. Not true. Yest there are "some" that do look down upon us.
Like someone said, hate is a strong word. I may dislike some things about some or even most gay men... or even some things about some crossdressers. But I would not say I hate any of them. We are all different. And some of those differences would keep us apart as friends, but again, I can't say I hate anyone for those differences. But I respect your right to be you even when and if I dpon't get it.

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Melissa,

So what is wrong with any feedback from a transsexual who is heavily involved with the LGBT community like me?
Don't you know that there are many gays assume that transsexuals are just crossdressers or drag queens too?
One of my main agendas is to educate my local LGB community about transgendered people to reduce this crap.

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I agree Melody. In fact I'd love to hear from GG's as well as other CD's. I'd also like to see how lesbians would respond to the same question. Everyone has a right to an opinion on the topic. What if someone said only straight CDs should answer and no gay crossdressers? That would be just as wrong.

I recently discussed this situation with a very good GW friend who knows many gays as she has been a great supporter of GLBT people. She strongly disagrees that many gays are anti CD. I have also met several of her gay friends. They could not have been nicer to me! Like many other people, they may not understand why we CD (even many CDs do not).

Your "friend's" attitude does not represent more than his own prejudices. Just like the opinions of any one person do not represent the opinions of an entire group or class of people in which he or she would be included.

The conclusion I'm drawing from this thread, and also the "how are my gay CDs doing" thread, is that cis people in general, whether gay or straight, understand very little about gender variance.

Even people who experience gender variance have a hard time understanding those who experience a different type of gender variance. LOL.

There's a wide range of acceptance/tolerance among cis people, from those who embrace this in a SO or loved one like I do, to the liberal and politically correct type of acceptance that also has a "not in my backyard" caveat, to mere tolerance whether or not it is polite, to downright disdain.

It is clear though, that no matter where on the above scale a gay man's views might be, he is attracted sexually to other men and not to men who present as women even if he happens to have friends who CD.

My son is gay and he hates everyone... So I seems. But his friend made a comment the other day while watching Americas Got Tallent. And this guy doing a pole dance....
"He's pretty good but the high heels are just too creepy"

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Melissa,So what is wrong with any feedback from a transsexual who is heavily involved with the LGBT community like me?

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Nothing, in fact that's exactly what I said. I did not say or infer that only gays or queers could respond. I said frequent contact with the gay community. That's verbatim actually, which of course would include you. ;-)

I was talking about those people that have no or very little contact with real homosexuals yet still make silly declarations as if they were true.

YES ALL GAY PEOPLE HATE CROSSDRESSERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

NO, of course not all gay people hate CDers! your friend is just an opinionated prick! CDers are definitely the least understood and probably the largest group of TG spectrum people, BUT you guys are also the most cagy and closeted and your silence allows all cis people regardless of their sexual orientation to come to their own conclusions. until CDers make their own case this is how its going to be!

Having spent the past few months visiting a lot of gay clubs, I've noticed some trends. Most gay men will completely ignore a crossdresser in a club, which is fine with me. A small percentage will compliment your outfit and treat you nicely. Another small percentage will come on to you.

When I inform a gay man that I'm straight, the most common reaction is shock. In my experience, they are just as ignorant about hetero CDs as the general public.

My best experiences have been with lesbians. I always got along well with them but en femme, even better. They treat me very well and a few have become regular friends.

Honestly, I love most gay people because I'm treated well. I think the fact that we share a common bond and a common "enemy", brings most of us closer.

This is like asking "do white people hate black people?" Some do, some don't. Your so-called friend needs exposure to many CD's to begin to see how uninformed he is.

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When I inform a gay man that I'm straight, the most common reaction is shock. In my experience, they are just as ignorant about hetero CDs as the general public.

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While I don't identify as a "male straight crossdresser' like you do & identify as 'transsexual lesbian female',
I get the same type of shocked reaction from people when I tell them I am a lesbian. Many people assume
that M-F crossdressers & transsexuals want to present as females only to pick up guys. So there is something
we do have in common as crossdressers & transsexuals. And I get on very well with my lesbian community,
but even some of them make the wrong assumptions about my true gender identity & sexual orientations.
But I only believe this is happening through a lack of understand or information being in the community. And
why I say this is because once I do talk to people, they are really amazed about it, but at the same time I
do make a lot of sense to them.

I also wanted to add that the crossdressing community is one of the least understood gender variants under
the transgender umbrella, but this is only because they are hiding in the closet so much. So my advice for
dealing with that is to get out of the closet & attend more of your local LGBT events and become part of the
community to reduce this type of ignorance.

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I also wanted to add that the crossdressing community is one of the least understood gender variants under
the transgender umbrella, but this is only because they are hiding in the closet so much. So my advice for
dealing with that is to get out of the closet & attend more of your local LGBT events and become part of the
community to reduce this type of ignorance.

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Great advice but don't hold your breath. We've covered this in other threads, as I'm sure you know.

Duana,

I hear ya hun, and while I won't change everyone's attitude, I do know that I have made a big
difference already - So I won't be giving up anytime soon. Also I am also a writer for an LGBT
magazine. So education & acceptance of gender & sexual diversity is one of my main agendas. ;)