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hello ladies how many of you girls have gone into victoria sercret to buy bras,nylons,panties,garterbelts,purfume etc do the sales ladies ask for your wife gf you the reason i ask went w one of my cd friend other day and sales lady ask him is it for you guess they know him then one ask me if im buying stuff for me to guess us crossdresser stick out want you girls of your experience at vs sorry spelling sucks
Many times, and I've never been asked who I was buying for...and of course I've never left any doubt when I've shopped en femme.
Sometimes Im asked whos it for and I never bat and eye. Its for me and just smile to them. Most of the times im with my gf and we just have fun with the clerks about it. Its fun to see their faces somerimes. Does it realy matter whos gonna wear them .Its keeping them busy and thats what counts .lol.
Renee
Perhaps the salesgirl is asking to make sure that the fit and size is spot on, and has nothing to do with the issue of you being a cross dresser at all. I am sure they see far more then even WE can imagine.
I have gone into VS both in drab and enfemme. I don't remember ever being asked who I was buying for!! I have, in the past, bought for both myself and for my late wife. The SA's in any of the VS stores that I frequent know that I am a crossdresser, and pretty much treat as a lady, no matter how I am dressed!!
Frankly, unless a man is buying a small, I think he is always suspeteced as being a crossdresser. I find walking into a VS alone, in guy mode, the most intimidating thing ever. Way more so than being in public in girl mode. Kinda silly.
When going into VS in drab I feel I am walking into my local club without my membership card.
I usually wear my membership card en femme.... and dont forget American express.
I want to save up so I can go in drab and ask what they have to make my boobs look better.
:D
God, I love the word "boobs"!
It's just so.. fun!
Salespersons like to chat and like to have a relationship with customers. Works for me, makes me feel quite welcome and more inclined to buy
VS is a sore spot for me I was looking at some of the sexier panty section in drab and the older SA lady pretty much told me I wasn't allowed in that section.
I asked why not? She said its for women only and it wasn't right for me to be in there.
I gave here a WTF look and left leaving my other items in the sales counter.
The lady at that main check out counter asked me what the matter was and I said her and pointed at the old bag.
Walked out and have never been back and don't plan on it ever.
I've never been asked who I was buying for there. I've several times had them compliment me on my selection. A couple of other times had a few give unsolicited advice about things I was looking at. Once I went to one I don't normally go to and couldn't find the hose. So I asked one of the SA's, and she took me to them and started talking about all the different styles and which were more comfortable etc.
Don't shop VS, I don't think they are known for plus sizes, but in department stores I've never been asked who it was for, although I've had them assume it was for the wife, since I don't consider it anyones busy, I just let them think what they want.
Tina B.
Tracii- The SA's have told me outright that they have a no discrimination policy. You had the exception. Did you write head office about her? The only time they have asked me who I was shopping for was to determine if I wanted a gift box/receipt. I don't love thier lingerie, I buy some, but I love the people there. -Celeste
The times that I have shopped at VS, whether alone or with a freind, I have been en femme. Most of the SA's have been very accomodating even if they know I'm a guy in a dress. They will help me with selections, make suggestions, and open the fitting room for me so I can try on my selections. I've found the same to be true in department stores as well.
That SA needs a history lesson! The original Victoria's Secret store was founded by a man who found it intimidating to shop for lingerie. It was designed specifically to be accepting and helpful for men!Quote:
Originally Posted by Tracii G
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victori...Secret#History
Now, the business model has certainly changed since then, but the #1 rule in retail is that the only customer qualification is possession of the means to pay.
I just went there a few days ago in guy mode. I was politely asked if I needed help by a lady at least in her mid 60's, and I stated that I was just looking. She said for a birthday or something special coming up? I said your right! Took my time looking and then left.:)
I have shopped VS openly in drab for the last 15 years. Never had a problem. Had my original bra fitting at VS about 12 years ago. I have bought over 3 dozen bras and over 50 pairs of panties in the lasty 15 years. Always positive service. The key is to be open about your purchases and to smile and be polite. The SA's will bend over backwards to help you.
It all depends upon your attitude and body language. It you come across timid and afraid, not good. If you are confident, polite and assertive, no problems.
Jodi
[SIZE="4"]My last ladyfriend loved a certain model of VS bras. Over the years I bought her a number of them in all colors, etc. The SA's think it's pretty cool that I'm confident enough in my own masculinity to not be worried buying lingerie. It's all in how confident and self-assured you are.
I don't buy lingerie for myself at VS because none of it is really applicable to what I need to make me look even semi-feminine. So much of it is thin and light and made for women who are exposing a lot more skin than I can get away with. I need heavy duty shapers, full coverage bras, support hose, and really large heels![/SIZE]
I suppose it's no secret that I like Victoria's Secret LOL... i buy lingerie and panties in store at least once a year and never have a problem. When they ask me if I need help, I just ask them for one of the shopping bags... and they never ask who it's for. Occasionally they will assume it's for my wife (wedding ring a good tip) and say things like "does your wife like perfume?" in an attempt to get me to buy some of the body splash stuff etc. My very first time in one, the SA was very helpful and even described how she liked the way certain underwear fit and so on... and thought it was cool that I would buy things for my wife. (Which I *do* shop there sometimes for my wife, I'd say it's a 50/50 split.) I walk in with 100% full confidence en drab, especially anytime in December or early February in the "early days" since then you don't even NEED an excuse... it's assumed. I have never tried to get a bra fitting, or purchase bras there since they typically don't have the cotton ones I like, so I get those online. I've also never admitted that anything was for me, but no one has even HINTED at that...
Thanks Eryn for posting the wiki link... it was educational for me, I had no idea!
VS Fan
hun that is probaly never going to hapen again had something like that hapen to me but little different put the stuff down the manager ask what happen told her she fired the employee on the spot gave me 20% off my stuff and a free garterbelt
yes hun i agreee they probaly know it for you but they dont care you want be a women they are more then helpful to help you out one of the reg vs employees who knows it for me always trys to find sexy stuff for me love there wings purfume but cant ware it in the morning when have to go to work it last almost 5hrs but usaly shop for panties,thongs,bras,nylons gotten a few garterbelts to that my friend susgested if my gf only new i dress up as a women
We don't have VS in France, but we do have Camaieu - a younger womans clothing store that is slightly upmarket.
When dressed in (female) jeans and shirt/top, I'm often asked if I'd like the item gift wrapped.
When dressed in skirt and heels I'm usually asked if I'd like to try on the item for size. :D
I've had some very good experiences at VS and some that are so so. Several times they have asked "who are we shopping for". I would guess that they asked because I was wearing womens jeans and top but was not overtly looking like a woman. I have told the truth and mostly received very good service. I don't really go there anymore because I already have too many bras and even though the service is a wonderful experience, I don't need to buy any more. And if you spend 15-30 minutes rying on bras, you should really purchase one.
Confident and ASSERTIAVE That shows it all and body language, especially for some of us that are straight. Our body language and eye contact shows we just like womens clothes and not perverted about it. when we inneract with other shoppers, ESPECIALLY, thats what sales associates really care about, being a pleasure and making the others shoppers experiences fun and possibly brightening there day as well :) the more I go out enfemme, ITS BETTER I go to the same stores in guy mode as well and not only accepted by the SA, but a bond forms as well.
I've NEVER had a problem at my local VS - shop there in guy mode and the SAs are always super friendly/helpful..... Oh, and I have never seen a SA who was over the age of 30.....:battingeyelashes:
When I stop by to browse, most of the time I'm a guy. But if i HAVE MY EYE ON SOMETHING i COME BACK AS A WOMAN TO TRY STUFF ON. I did this when I had my eye on 4 bra & panty sets, came back a month later when I had money but when I tried the bra on it didn't work well with my forms, and the panties were to thin and flimsy and wouldn't give a good tuck... So I didn't spend $200+ the the stuff I was looking for.
VS makes an effort to make all customers comfortable. Same with Macy's, my favorite store.
I never volunteer the items are for me, but i am not under the delusion that they do not know i'm probably a crossdresser. Since I do not bring it up, they don't either- but it's mutual recognition.. Macy's (and VS) realize they get not an insignificant portion of sales to CDs.
Since we as CDs run the gamut from being very shy to overtly out- it is hard for the salespeople to know how to respond at first blush, but they do a good job.
For me- if i do not feel like opening up- i simply smile, offer closed end answers, and concentrate on being polite- showing respect for the salespersons' efforts.
My biggest problem is the other customers. They do not have incentive to be nice to CDs, but it seems to me, as i have been working on this over the last few years- if you do not make eye contact, they will not interact either. It really works. Even more so if one projects the feeling that the store wants you there, which at macy's and Vs, (and MANY others) do.
Remember- macy's policy is to let crossdressers (male) use the female dressing rooms. Uber tolerance- they would rather risk pissing off a bigot than losing a CD/TG client. Freaking awesome.
For me, the best way to shop en drab is to be a little flirty, happy with the situation I am in (shopping), and formally polite.
Once, years ago, I bought a pink satin prom dress- size 11 was just too small, I called and asked if i could exchange it at anther store. No problem. During the exchange, somehow, the question of fit was brought up- and the SA (could not have been more than 20) asked if i would like to try it on.
I freaked a little, (wasn't rude or anything) and hightailed it out of the store. In retrospect, i should have graciously thanked the girl for the offer, regardless of declining.
probably should have tried it on, with some assistance in fitting. would have made a great short story...
Katie- my lady, I hear you. try doubling or even tripling up on the panties- the extra compression works quite well! You might even sew 2-3 pair together, and even take a quarter inch out of the side seams to make it fit better.
A sewing machine is best for this- but you can get a real decent model for less than half what you would have spent.
hell, if learning how to alter clothes with a sewing machine is not a CD/TG skill, what the hell is?
I'm biased, of course, but the sewing machine is perhaps the best CD/TG related investment i ever made. it also comes in handy for doing alterations on clothes for my size 0-2 wife's pants and skirts.
When I go to VS presenting as a female, I certainly hope they don't try to assume I'm buying for anyone but MYSELF!!!
Sara, if anyone assumes your buying for other than your self, im sure it is your buying for another GG female. Most of us that are straight, and no offense to gays nor anyone trying to pass, but the way we usually act as male, we act as female. the female sale associates think WE ARE ALL CUTE, THEY LOVE ME ;) i always have great experiences.
Love shopping at VS had my fitting done there years ago never had a bad shopping expercience when asked what size does she wear tell the sa its for me once a sa looked a little shocked but recovered and help me havent shop there lately since they quit carrying the vs cotton signture collection razorback bra the one that fastens in the front have to buy it on line or from the catalog still like window shopping there.
Very overrated experience for many of us.They only go to a 38 band size in bras and the panties aren't any better than other stores.Just cause it seems feminine with the smells and all doesn't change the fact that most things there won't stand the test of time other than the stencil that says "I LOVE PINK" across the butt of some sweatpants! Buy what truly works for you,wherever you get it..Nordstrom,Macy's, Bebe, to Avenue,Dressbarn to consignment shops to Target to thriftshops...Get clothes that make you look your best!..Trendy hype doesn't cut it.
One day I'm going to build the courage to go to a VS store and buy some lengerie.
Best make sure it fits! Shopping for something there shouldn't qualify for the "bucket list"! IMO...Quote:
Originally Posted by Vanessa Amber420
kind of is kinky. for me, im just attracted to womens clothes, but all the SA just think i like to only wear, but ITS BOTH :)
I went on thursday night in drab, just before closing and bought a nightie and some vsx yoga pants. Yoga pants are to long, so i may try and exchange them. The SA's were wonderful, also got a secret rewards card too!
Always asked, but never have had the guts to say who its actually for, though they probably know already, wish i could work up the courage do to that