If they only knew

How many here have ever been in this situation. The other day at work the ladies found an empty vodka bottle in the ladies restroom. It is a bathroom used mainly by customers. So we were all joking about how it got there. I said that I sit in there before work and drink, then one of the guys joked the hardest part is going in wearing a skirt and coming out as a guy. So one of the ladies got all revved up, jokingly of course and ran over and had to look at my finger nails for any residue of nail polish. She goes on to say that a place she worked before there was a cd, he would wear make up and stuff to work and eventually came out to every one that he was tg. Bad thing was in his free time he would dress like a street corner girl, more of a drag queen.
Now the "if they only knew part. So here I am thinking, yeah a few weeks ago she would have found that nail polish. Oh well maybe it was a test, Im not sure but it ended up no big deal. Has anyone else here ever gotten into a conversation like that and said to themself "If they only knew"

It sounds like she might suspect you are a cd.

I'm in agreement with Alice. Why didn't she run over to the guy who made the comment? Why did she come over to you? Women can be very observant. My wife once told me she saw I had missed removing some eye makeup. She did not make the comment at the time, but, many months, if not years, later.

On the present issue. There have been numerous time when I've listened to people, friends or family, make ignorant comments concerning gays, lesbians and transgenders. I don't sit there silently, I may speak up on the subject, not because I'm a cross dresser, but, because there is no place for ignorance. I love it when my wife confronts ignorance concerning African-Americans, when she whips out pictures of our African-American nieces. At best it teaches them a lesson to keep their mouths shut.

I was moving a large package at work the other day. I was balancing it on my head as I walked by the front desk. The receptionist said she would like to see me do that in high heels... if she only knew!!

My sister in law has arthritis in her big toe joints, as I do. The other day when she came to see us, my wife remarked on the size of the heels on her wedges, she answered that the angle of the heels helped to relieve the pain ! I added absent minded that it does help ! No one said anything, I quickly asked if anyone wanted coffee !

Teresa, LOL - but I thought it was Tea in the UK?

I've had to be very careful back when I was among the workforce in a factory. One thing I learned about working with women is that if they have even the slightest suspicion, they will bait and test you. It doesn't happen that much with men. For example, I've had simple questions put to me asking my opinion about what another woman was wearing. I learned to say something like, "She looks nice." But again I was very careful because maybe my behavior showed the real me. FWIW


Cheryl

you opened your self up with the drinking in the ladies bathroom, which. was not wise. I shy. away form any reference to Cding. I 'm sure my coworkers suspect . I would prefer to stay in the closet at work, and besides it's not any of their business. people are very much into their own lives to spend much time thinking about someone else , unless it affects them. ♡jean

almost every day, something will come up and I think to my self, omg if they only knew. xoxoxox Jenni

Happens to me all the time. They usually think Im joking. If they only knew. lol.

Not wise to draw attention to yourself needlessly.
Most people just don't understand the drive, the need, and the desire that a crossdresser has.
I think of it as my Lemming Instinct in that I've got to dress no matter what.
That said, the most important part is to keep it to yourself.
I used to work in a job where, even if somebody had the slightest inkling I was a CD, I'd be fired/laid-off/perhaps even injured in some way. I'm not kidding.
Some people really get unglued. I used to get my hair cut in a beauty shop by this lady for a whole year before I told her that I was a CD. She immediately became flustered and her hands shook. She asked me why "I did it". I said maybe my 'X's' and 'Y's' make me do it, I don't know. I never went back.

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Teresa, LOL - but I thought it was Tea in the UK?

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It depends on the time of day to some of us Brits Wendy! Coffee for the morning (elevensies) drink and Tea taken at 4pm (traditional tea and tiffin time).:OT:

so THAT'S where I left that bottle of vodka...I was looking for that...my bad.

Many times. I remember when at a neighborhood party my next door neighbor quipped something about me wearing black lace panties...strictly as a joke. Of course he was mistaken...they weren't lace or black!

Erica, evert time, and I do mean every time someone makes a cross dresser joke, I reply with a joke, "Well I do have the legs for it." or "I'd never been seen in THAT dress." Really anything to joke that I am a cross dresser. Reverse psychology applies here. No one expects a cross dresser to joke about being a cross dresser!

Hi Erica, One time I joined in on a conversation about bra cup sizes on how
a D cup can be the same size as a C cup, B cup or an A cup as the band size goes up, :daydreaming: IF THEY ONLY KNEW !

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Originally Posted by Jenniferathome

Erica, evert time, and I do mean every time someone makes a cross dresser joke, I reply with a joke, "Well I do have the legs for it." or "I'd never been seen in THAT dress." Really anything to joke that I am a cross dresser. Reverse psychology applies here. No one expects a cross dresser to joke about being a cross dresser!

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Jennifer we must think alike. I figure if you ignore the conversation people will suspect something. If someone jokes about it, I throw one right back at them. It's when people start badmouthing cd's, that bothers me.

I work in a predominantly female office; after the initial getting-to-know-me phase that occurred after I was hired, I overheard more than once "now he's just one of the girls"..made me smile!

We are, by definition, going to be in that situation all the time. Since we are crossdressers, every time the conversation turns in that direction we have to be alert to what we want to say, or not. It's good to think ahead and decide what your position is going to be before the situation takes on a life of its own in a direction that makes you uncomfortable. It only gets more frequent if anyone transitions in your workplace...speaking from experience here! When colleagues were derogatory to the transitioning person behind her back, it was pretty easy to diffuse the situation only because I had thought about it ahead of time.

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Originally Posted by Cheryl Ann Owens

One thing I learned about working with women is that if they have even the slightest suspicion, they will bait and test you.

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I don't recall that ever happening to me. I would posit that I was too obvious for any need for "testing", but I did get enough "I didn't know" reactions that I would have to discount that.

I did get some women recognizing me in less-obvious mode after having seen me in more-obvious mode. Salespeople offering earrings are not "testing" if they have previously sold you earrings that were obviously for yourself.

Women are definitely more observant. The closer they are to you the
more they can sense. Smells, and tell tale reminders will get you busted.
So if you want to keep it on the QT, better have an excuse or story.
Char

Hi,

If they knew ,

well it was not nail polish or wearing any clothes or makeup that would have given me away , they knew me well enough to know and more about myself than i could have said any way ,

they knew i was female , so what gave me away . that was in the 60,s i spos it was just who i have allways been just did not express myself fully. and one woman told me years later. was 6 years ago, and funny as a guy knew as well ,

So you may think youv got your self covered and really hidden dont count on it,

...noelenna...

Women are more observant, when I finally started to come out to people in work. I was in fact more or less dragged out of the closet by one who persisted in asking questions until I gave in. Prior to that there had always been questions asked. Mostly 'Are you gay?' I always said no quite correctly. But it's clear many had an inkling over the years. Others I told were not in the least surprised. Apparently I do come across as somewhat feminine for a man. I don't know why I was surprised!

I was filling in for an absent employee in the lab one day. I had on a pair of shorts that were covered by my lab coat which went down to slightly below knee height. Another female employee who was working with me said "nice skirt." I replied by saying that she would be surprised at how many skirts are in my closet. She dismissed that by saying, "Yeah, right." She didn't realize I wasn't joking. When I got home I counted. 23 to be exact. If only she knew.

I was thinking about starting almost the same thread. A new hire that sits near me told me that I should wear heels to work. I was blown away but tried my best not to show it. I said something like "oh they'd probably fire me for that." In retrospect, that's probably not the answer that a guy who didn't wear high heels would have given... She really caught me off guard. She then just casually started talking about the rocky horror picture show. There was really no natural conversational lead up to her comment though. It's like she just sort of knew that I would be quite thrilled to wear heels to work. I can't figure out why she would have any suspicion though. Women really are observant. Sheesh.

Yes. About a year ago, I was playing cards with 3 gg friends, who know nothing of my cd'ing. The topic of wearing high heels came up and developed into an hour discussion of how to wear, heel selection, hazards of wearing, pain, etc. Through out the conversation, I would just smile and listen. If they only knew.

Jodi

This reminded me of a conversation several years ago. We (me, my wife, and the kids) had gone on a camping trip with my (supportive) wife's parents. They don't know anything about Melissa. As we were packing up to go home on the last day of the trip, my Father in Law and me were struggling to get a rolled up tent into its bag (they always make them so small). My wife, looking on as we struggled to squeeze the large tent into its small bag, said "That's what it's like trying to put on pantyhose." My Father in law responded with "Well, I wouldn't know anything about that!" My wife just gave me a big grin and winked. Luckily, my Father in law wasn't looking at her.

if they only knew?
my life would be so different?
good or bad?
I hope they never know!

I play on a dart team with my wife and 2 other gg we got our shirts and all them were pink. The gg said mow your one of the girls my said of you girls only knew.they got a laugh

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Originally Posted by 6inchheels

I was thinking about starting almost the same thread. A new hire that sits near me told me that I should wear heels to work. I was blown away but tried my best not to show it. I said something like "oh they'd probably fire me for that." In retrospect, that's probably not the answer that a guy who didn't wear high heels would have given... She really caught me off guard. She then just casually started talking about the rocky horror picture show. There was really no natural conversational lead up to her comment though. It's like she just sort of knew that I would be quite thrilled to wear heels to work. I can't figure out why she would have any suspicion though. Women really are observant. Sheesh.

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Funnily enough I had a similar experience in work but it was a young guy recently hired. I had taken some flying lessons. He suddenly asked me, jokingly of course, if I wore high heels in the plane and if they got caught in the pedals. Completely out of left field that. Thinking about it now. I think the girls in the office must have said something because it's clear now that they had me worked out even though they never said anything to me at the time.

Women have great instincts.

Happened yesterday, one of the ladies came in for her shift and said good afternoon lovely ladies (I am the only guy). And then she corrected and said and of course gentlemen as well. So I said, hey, you can call me whatever you want, I'm comfortable with who I am !! Got some chuckles and we all moved on, if they only knew - and no, they have no clue whatsoever as I do not dress at all in the summer and live 6700kms away from them in the winter !