Having a CD/transgender town

In los Angeles we have a China Town, little Tokyo, little Saigon, little Ethiopia and more but no transgender town. In West Hollywood there is a community for mostly gay males and some places for lesbian women.

When there was club illusions, peanuts, high heels,the palms, jewels catch one, the study,the horizon and more it was as close as you get to having a community and gathering place.

Having a community and gathering place would be Awesome!


Imagine trans shopping places,salons,spas,gyms, restaurants within walking distance to each other
If I want to reach the segmented community in the open out and about it's harder.san Francisco probably has it already.
They were scattered everywhere in Hollywood and not coherent in a area.

Those who are trans and visibly out are a tiny, tiny minority in the population at large. It would never be feasible with such a small number of people.

We have one up here in Massachusetts, or at least as close as can be expected.. Provincetown.

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The whole place has been and LGBT haven for many, many years. It is on the outermost tip of Cape Cod, and is beautiful.

- MM

No surprise MM, I got a tattoo in P-town...A most interesting place, a must see

There is no need for trans-town. Places for dining, shopping, personal care, etc, already exist. They are typically spotted by the little sign in the window stating that they accept Visa, MC, AMX or even cash.

Oh so true Sarah, and why would we want a special place, we are just people like anyone else. I don't want to be labeled
and marked by a spacific place or area

I would think there are not enough out to support a whole town. Shopping, groceries, housing, jobs, schools, churches, courthouses, and etc. think of the law enforcement and meeting government rules and regs. Now a small community of CDs in a particular big city that hang together in certain places are about as far as I can see this going. Not raining on your parade but just being reasonable.

Once upon a time, before I was born, there was Bugis Street in Singapore. Not quite a trans* neighbourhood strictly speaking, but still a beacon of trans* culture locally before it became a budget fashion street of sorts. On one hand I would gladly support trans-friendly shops congregated in one place, but I'm genuinely concerned that a ghetto might ensue instead depending on how society and the local observer treats the trans community (and it's the fight of those who will to gain acceptance both within and without. Especially the latter.) More ghettos are the last thing society ever needs now.

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...courthouses, and etc. think of the law enforcement and meeting government rules and regs.

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The mind reels at the police force :)

"I'm issuing you a ticket. No white after labor day."

- MM

A CD/transgender town. Yeah, I don't think so. After the massacre in Florida at that gay night club, it would just invite some lunatic that wants to wipe us all out in a hurry. Remember, there's still a lot of hate out there where we'll still almost get shot just trying to go the the bathroom.

I was thinking the same things as Lily and Lexi. The concentration would be a de facto ghetto, the message being that "those people" ought not to mix with "normal" society. While LGBT clubs don't usually attract a dangerous element, it does happen from time to time. A whole town or neighborhood would seem to invite trouble.

So Sara is right. We don't need it. Jeri Ann spent last Saturday "mixed with polite society". Nobody cares. Okay, nobody but that grumpy lady at the nail salon, but we're still not sure she wasn't just near-sighted. :) Seriously though, Reina. There just isn't a need for it, and if there was, it wouldn't be economically feasible. So let's make the most of what we have.

We have that here!

Is this a TG/CD ghetto?
Do we attract the worst types?

San Francisco has these areas not by design.

Following up with Kelly Marie, I think such a place would attract the worst types. To demonstrate the point, see the area around Major Sertorio and Rego Freitas in Sao Paulo. A smaller version would be the area around Post and Larkin in San Francisco.

For me I like to just be with regular people. I'm out and feel totally comfortable in all situations. So for me to be part of a group is something I have done but prefer not to. I do believe I'm like a lot of TG's in this way that I just want to live my life and be looked on as just another person.

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For me I like to just be with regular people....

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Hey! Crossdressers ARE regular people.

A "special" place for anyone is counterproductive. In extreme situations, they're called ghettos. A place where the inhabitants can be ignored or even forced into by bigots in the majority who say "You have your own place". In the wider world, nothing improves.

I believe we are far better served by us being out in the world of the muggles. It has been proven that the single best predictor of whether a person is tolerant of any group, racial or otherwise, is whether or not he/she knows someone personally from that group. You want acceptance? Get known. Get out there. This is the strategy used by the gay community, which is now much further ahead of us in general acceptance.

The best thing to do is be yourself where you are. I agree with the others that it would be a ghetto. We are regular people and many are married and have jobs and everything to live well.

There are all these things in Connecticut without fighting the traffic to P Town. There are lingerie, wig and Dress Barns and other shops that are T friendly in more communities than you realize.

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Once upon a time, before I was born, there was Bugis Street in Singapore. Not quite a trans* neighbourhood strictly speaking, but still a beacon of trans* culture locally before it became a budget fashion street of sorts. On one hand I would gladly support trans-friendly shops congregated in one place, but I'm genuinely concerned that a ghetto might ensue instead depending on how society and the local observer treats the trans community (and it's the fight of those who will to gain acceptance both within and without. Especially the latter.) More ghettos are the last thing society ever needs now.

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Lily, in my very young adult days I visited Bugis Street, It was a major tourist attraction and I still have a photo of a beautiful tgirl with my arm around her. I never knew these transgendered people existed before then and never could have imagined that some years later I would be trying to emulate them. Maybe they planted the seed in my mind to find my feminine side.

Kind of an interesting idea, but essentially isn't it just a bigger closet?

I think there would still be some who would tell me and others "you shouldn't go out looking like THAT!".

Many years ago I visited Phuket. Which has a large T presence. My vanilla friend and I went a T club and we met a lot of the Thai "girls" called Ladyboys there. Unfortunately, I couldn't ask many of the questions I wanted to because of my friend, who can't know about my "hobby"!

We visited the Bugis St. area clubs in Singapore 2 years ago. Not a T in site all nite! Except for my Asian T friend who passes. She dressed, I wasn't.

There was a T town by a popular TS club. Had fun around there. Most everyone was a "show girl" .they looked good enough that many worked in regular clubs as Hostess,strippers,waitressing, lip syncing and more. Many of the show girls made enough to retire and become Philanthropist. Old mansions were used to benefit the tg communities.
The stores around made custom shoes and dresses. Money flow was good for them. They had nice condo's ,clothes and cars. I was taught some things by some showgirls.
There were some workin girls but i never new to much later.
Those stores had every women shoe and dress in any size for anyone but was mostly show girls that patronized these stores. It was a community that was fun and supportive.

I lived in NY for 45 years and in the most free town ever, I still felt judged and out of place. Never comfortable dressing. I have been in DFW for over 5 years and its the first place I totally feel free. We have parties , clubs and bars to go to. I suspect there are crazies everywhere but unless they have a gun (and many do) I am not worrying about them. The gurls in this town are great and love to hang.

There was a report I heard recently about people of an older generation who identified themselves as L, G, B or T, who were out, being forced back into the closet when they moved to retirement communities because they found the stigma, the prejudices, the isolation, etc, that they battled against when they were young still existing within the age group.

So some company developed an initiative to create retirement communities with majority ( not completely ) LGBT members. I wish I could find that report, because I was dealing with other commitments while it was on and couldn't give it the attention I would have ideally liked, but it eludes me now :sad: .

New York had the Stonewall Riots and have the no Masquerading law on the books still.its an arrestable offense and a Misdemeanor​.not enforced​ most times.

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I wouldn't like it at all. While nowadays I live mostly alone and away from people. Years ago when I went to clubs and other hangouts, I mostly went to places that had a diverse of peoples. I lived in hoods that had a mix of different people. I only went to a gay place to watch a friend perform a show, I would never want to go there regularly. I wanted to be in places that had all sorts of differing people, I couldn't stand living in an area that was exclusively trans or gay.

While I am prepared to be a willing supporter and patron for a cluster of CD/TG friendly shops, I think deliberately carving out a zone specifically for LGBT is simply calling for trouble, much less for a group that's still trying to get out and open with as little concerns as possible. In other countries even so much being trans* and using the public toilet seems to be cause for panic already, and that seems to just get reinforced in this neck of the woods every time someone decides to crossdress very badly for the sake of infiltrating the other gender's toilet.

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We visited the Bugis St. area clubs in Singapore 2 years ago. Not a T in site all nite! Except for my Asian T friend who passes. She dressed, I wasn't.

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It hasn't been like that for years, as the powers that be and the people regressed towards a more conservative stance and Bugis Street was accordingly revamped as a shopping mall. It's arguable that was done to make a more orderly and normative society, as well as to prevent HIV epidemics. Later on, I understand Changi Village was a common gathering spot for trans* prostitutes, and those were more likely than not the only trans* individuals an average Singaporean would have encountered in their lifetime.