Just a chat

Have a few questions to ask :)
One how does everyone feel about the use of FaceApp?
Please just talk to the me in this thread as this topic in the past brings arguments.
We do have in place you need to say FaceApp used when posting.
My personal opinion is I think it is a great tool for those who want to erase a beard, add makeup & hair for the times you cannot dress or .But I strongly dislike the posts where it completely changes your face.
( all a sudden you look like a 18 yr old but you really are 70) To me it is no different to those years ago put someone else?s head on their body ?..this just ruins it for others IMO.
Just being nosey nothing is changing there ( right now )most use it to enhance.
Again direct your comments to me ( and the mods) no fighting over it.

My next question is would you all be interested in a Theme thread in the gallery?
Sherlyn used to do this and was so much fun.
It would not interfere with your gallery post ( every seven days.)
I was thinking the first one would be - Its Fall Y?all- - pictures of you and fall leaves, pumpkins, fall toe nails, fall outfits ect . It is fun to see what ideas you come up with.
Next month Halloween.

Thanks
Di

I have heard the for and against arguments and understand peoples position on it. Personally, it is not something that interests me because I only dress up when I am going out to meet and hang out with people. Faceapp does not do anything to help me with that.

I could go for Halloween theme etc. I was just looking at Elvira costumes ; )

Sandi

I think a theme section is a good idea. It would lead to more creativity as to attire and background. It may lead to an informal contest of who is wearing the "Best Witch" non-commercial costume, etc.

I have never tried FaceApp, Di. But, in my case it's pointless. Why waste time trying to fix my homely, old man face when I can put on a pretty, young, female one in seconds?:heehee:

And, instead of having one photo? I can take 1,000's in as many locations, outfits, and poses as I like!:battingeyelashes:

I don't post pics anymore so that probably skews (and maybe invalidates) my opinion, but I don't like it at all. Might as well post a pic of some GG and claim it's you. Of course, I come for the days of Polaroids or film, and there was no fooling anybody with that stuff. If all one wants is pics, FaceApp just makes it entirely too easy and entirely unrealistic, and it's not just FaceApp. I don't have even the rudimentary skills to do it, but from what I understand it's pretty easy to modify anything and everything to make your pics look nothing like the real you. I'm sure the younger ones get tired of these "back in the day" posts, but there was a time not long ago when there was no fakery, and we actually had to work on hair, makeup, body, and clothes, and often the resulting pics were pretty disappointing. That just meant we had to work harder, or make corrections we could easily overlook in the mirror.

I don't mind face app but I think we should be told it's used.

If I look at a photo and it's too good to be true I just scroll on. Bit like some of the worded posts I guess some are true some are not 🤔

Although I don't post pictures, I do have an opinion on the question of FaceApp or any digital tool to alter the reality of a photograph.

I fully support Rhonda Jean's rationale.

If FaceApp or any other tool is used to alter the reality of a photograph, it should be labeled as such on each and every altered photograph.

Last, I like the idea of a Theme thread in the gallery. Sounds like fun.

Thanks for asking.

Thanks everyone
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Seems most feel like I do….and yes they have to say FaceApp is used.

AWESOME
Everyone seems to like the theme idea.
I look forward to seeing everyone’s ideas for each theme .
Probably start it tomorrow so be thinking of ideas.
I will keep it up a month then start a new theme.
If you have themes you want pm me.
I have a few ideas.
Let’s have fun!

I feel totally ambivalent about FaceApp. It doesn't change one's appearance more than a wig does and nobody here has a problem with wigs. It's just a non-issue to me.

A theme thread would be fine, but since I don't post photos, I'm the wrong audience for that. I'd probably browse the thread and might occasionally comment, but I can't think of a theme that I'd be likely to get excited about.

I think it is ok for someone to use FaceApp privately, if they, for example, want to experiment with their appearance. I am less than enthusiastic about its use in pictures posted here.

Re: themed thread. It could be fun, even though I probably would not post pictures in it very often. But who knows, maybe it would be inspiring and fun.

I'm in the Rhonda Jean camp on FaceApp. Posting pics is a big motivator for me to work harder on my appearance.
Maybe add a new section in the gallery for FaceApp posts.

Bring on the Theme Thread!

Emily

I enjoy playing with FaceApp.
In fact, my avatar is a FaceApp derivative run through I think Viola to get the current look.

I'm not trying to fool anybody, it was just extremely validating for me to see a woman's face that so closely resembled mine.
It gives me hope that, even at my age, it just might be possible.

As far as posting pictures (not something I do), I don't see it as much different than Doc becoming Sherry, but then, she is very honest and open about what she does and how.

Theme idea is good, but like the cavat of noting that it is a modified image. I never use photos or post photos because of the data mining of photo images. Remember the old days when a photographer had to get permission to take someone's photo and display it? Alas that has disappeared, but it would make the world a friendlier place.

Di, all due respect, sounds like your post is just a rule list for the site. As crossdressers, we find an experience in being outside the box. I can use Face app on a stick figure and look amazing but, so what? Or I can be a guy with tits and appeal to some. What's the point? We're all doing a pretending to be other than me. Well, except you. I'm just a little puzzled with this.

I use FaceApp on the pics I post here,they are labeled as such by FaceApp, except for some taken at the Girls Night Out in OKC. I do this because, IMHO, my makeup skills suck and I don't think anyone really wants to see pictures of what is really an old man in a dress.

Just my tw ocents worth.

I appreciate everyone’s take on things as it helps me see all things from your perspectives.

I don't post pics so I'll abstain from voting

My TG Meetup Group has monthly themes like Glamour and Glitz, Flower Power, Animal Prints, Pride Colors, Pretty in Pink, Neon, Black and White, Denim or Diamonds, Cool Blue, Fall Colors.

As for FaceApp, I'd like to be able to use it if I had time to put on a dress, but not time to do the makeup. I don't like to see myself as a MIAD, looking pretty from the neck down, but looking like a dude from the neck up.

Plus, we may miss out on all of Xam's beautiful FaceApp pics with her wonderful poses and legs for miles.

Sorry hate faceapp or any apps that alter your appearance, it your gonna do that you might as well do the rest of your body as well, actually dont bother getting dressed at all just do it all virtually on a computer, I would feel a complete cheat if I altered my pics in anyway its like lying to yourself. dont forget this isnt aimed at anyone its my own personal opion.

I have no use for FaceApp or anything similar that changes one's look so drastically. It's no problem cleaning up a photo, making it less blurry, lighter or darker, cropping it ...etc but using faceapp is posting a fantasy image, one that often looks nothing like the CD posting it.

Hello Di. I think having a Theme thread is a great and fun idea!

I pretty much don't care one way or the other about the use of face app. I don't use it and doubt I ever will. I don't need more technology in my life no matter how little it is.

Do not like FaceApp for multiple reasons, one being geopolitical the other for the same reason I do not like PhotoShop. And love the idea of themes!

Not a FaceApp fan. I want to try hard to blend when dressed, and FaceApp is not really me. I'd rather try to improve my makeup skills, so I look more natural when I am out shopping. If I am an unattractive woman, so be it. I also love the idea of themes.

Hi Di, I like the idea of themes, it could be a fun thread

Generalizing is usually a bad idea, but I am going to fall into that trap.

I feel that generally those that are opposed to FaceAp and the like are those that already go out in public or have confidence in themselves and their appearance and makeup skills. Thus, FaceAp is unnecessary and pointless and fakery and evil or at minimal looked down on and you can?t take FaceAp into the real world, etc..

On the other hand, those of us that are truly closeted and don?t have the time or abilities to become proficient with makeup and are literally only presenting their fem self to themselves and not the public, enjoy the fantasy of what we COULD look like or WANT to look like and the Apps fulfill that desire. Yes, it may be considered cheating or a cop out or a shortcut, but that is a personal choice and if the actions are only for ourselves, what is the harm? The Apps essentially become a form of crossdressing or fulfill a similar need. I had never played with one of these or FaceAp in particular until I had read about it on this site. There are many of us that for various reasons are not comfortable posting actual images of ourselves on a public website. FaceAp and the like allows for some remaining anonymity. I suspect there are very few people ( on THIS forum, but plenty on other forums/sites) that are intentionally trying to fool anyone or generate false positive feedback for self promotion reasons ( despite that being the attitude that some may feel is the reason)

My thoughts on FaceAp had been posted before, but as long as it is labeled and clear it has been used ( as are the rules) I personally see no problem with it. I kind of felt like this second grouping was being drowned out by the first and wanted to at least try to provide a voice to the other perspective.

As was already stated by another poster, this is just my opinion, not gospel, nor does it invalidate or make anyone else?s opinion wrong.

I have no problem with members using FaceApp for their avatar, I don't really care about avatars, many are fictional characters anyway.
As for FaceApp in the pictures gallery, that's different. In my opinion its use should always be mentioned, to avoid inducing unrealistic expectations for some of us and generating frustration and distress. Other than that I have no issue with it. I just observe that these trained AIs tend to make people look a bit all the same.
I never used it but confess that I am curious what it'd make me look like. But two problems there. First, it wouldn't be me. And second, I already look so absolutely fantastic in girl mode (my avatar is proof of that, warning it's been slightly edited) that I can't see how it could possibly make me any better.

I'm not against Faceapp totally I just don't see the point in posting pics with it because it is not really you. I have some pics using Faceapp which I think are stunning ( excuse the modesty) but unless someone specifically wanted to see them I wouldn't post them I would just look at them and wish I really looked like that.

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As for themed threads if it's sissy, bimbo, secretary, maid, schoolgirl, girl next-door sign me up but never been a witch.

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Oh yes I could manage housewive too.

Di, I've enjoyed all of the comments you've gotten so far. It gave me a lot to think about. I personally am not opposed to ladies here using feminizing software like FaceApp, especially if it makes them feel better about themselves and their appearance. After all for most CDs this is a fantasy, so why not indulge? I do believe that those using such apps should be honest with the members when they show feminized pictures of themselves, however. I know that I wouldn't use such apps to alter my appearance to the extent that is seen on some. I do admit that I use PhotoShop to make minor alterations, mostly resizing, color enhancing, etc. where I feel it makes a truer representation of what was seen in real life. The only other exception to this is that I brighten my teeth in the photos. I drink a lot of tea which makes them look a bit dingy.

As for a theme thread I'm not much help since I don't show a lot of photos other than new avatar and profile photos. I know that I'd enjoy seeing such a thread appear on the forum.

Thank You Everyone I appreciate your input.
I made the first Theme thread.
Have fun
It’s Fall y’all

In the sticky section so you can find it easily.
https://www.crossdressers.com/forums...t-s-Fall-Y-all

I just love Face app, like crossdressing it's all fantasy and fun.
I understand I'm not now nor will I ever be a woman. I think if you use Face app you should say it in your post, that said I think it's funny that a cross dresser would object to face app because to me it's all fantasy.
I probably wouldn't participate in a Theme thread in the gallery but it would be fun to see what others do.

Crossdressing isnt a fantasy to me is perfectly real, I dress I go out shopping, clubbing, and socialising, all part of real life for me.

Not objective about my own face, but I did a lot of FaceApp when the egg was about to cracking, and found that a few years of HRT and some makeup got me pretty close to the same look I got from genderswap pics from “before”.

My disagreement with faceapp, even though I have used it, is that it sets unrealistic beauty standards. It makes your eyes bigger, it changes bone structure etc. It isn't as simple as just putting makeup on you - look closer and you'll see how it moves your eyes around in a way that isn't possible with surgery.

Women complain about photoshopped models setting unrealistic beauty standards, and here we are doing the same and saying "who does it hurt?" - well who does it hurt when big brands photoshop a waist, or breasts, or bum?

It's the same as touching up photos of models in advertisin. It gives an unrealistic expectation of how we should look. People can easily feel they don't look good enough. Like why can't I get my makeup right like she did? That's why I think it's important to say because then someone can look at it and not Feel as threatened by someone who looks 10 times Better.