Practical cross-dressing

hello all,
If a man wears women's clothes for practical reason is that crossdressing?
For example, it is very cold here in northern England this week - so I am wearing some women's clothing for the warmth - for example: women's legging's under my trousers because they cost less than men's long-johns and fit better, women's long sleeved tee shirts because men's ones are hard to find and cost more and a women's thick padded hooded coat because I have never seen one of those on sale for men.
So is that "cross-dressing" or just being practical (if you ignore the fact that I also wear dresses at other times of the year)?
luv J

Why r u asking us here? We're all CD's just like u.:battingeyelashes:

Find a regular man who wears women's tites simply to warm his legs and ask him!:heehee:

Haha ,

Well let me try that idea out on my wife. My guess is that it would land me in the dog house.

Sandi

It was wearing pantyhose to keep my legs a little bit warmer one winter that got me back into cross dressing after I had stopped for many yrs following my marriage

If a non-CD wore those items for practical reasons then he'd probably not be CD IMO.

As you're a CD anyway (you wear dresses) then the question is moot. I'm interested to know why are you asking!

I wore long Johns in winter all my childhood. So did all the other guys through our Minnesota winters. Leggings are easier to find (in the women?s section), less expensive, durable enough, and more comfortable.

If tights are good enough to get Dick Butkus through a Chicago winter, they are good enough for me. Nobody in his day was fierce enough to question him about anything. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dick_Butkus

I wear women's penny loafers. Same shoe style in the same store but much less expensive. That works for many other shoes also.

Why does it cost less to put buttons on the other side of a coat? I dunno, but while others philosophize, I will stay warm and keep more of my money.

I wear 31 inch inseam pants. That is difficult to find in men?s pants but it is ubiquitous in women's pants. I won that lottery. I have no butt so both men?s and women?s pants look baggy. It works for me.

When I need to use the restroom in drab, none of my clothes raise the slightest objection to entering at the door labeled MEN.

The only thing my wife raises more objections to than CDing is spending too much. Therefore, I get the clothes, I hide them in plain sight, and she prefers it that way.

Of course its crossdressing I also use any excuse possible to get my girl on.

To me, clothes are clothes and whether they are men's or women's does not matter if comfort and when it is practical to do so for some reason, such as it is cold. If a man wears a women's shirt with the buttons on the other side is that crossdressing? Absolutely not, IMO! But if his intent is to look like a woman then it becomes crossdressing. In short, it is the intent of the act and not the act itself that defines the category.

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Originally Posted by jacques

If a man wears women's clothes for practical reason is that crossdressing?

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I call myself a crossdresser and, in public, I wear womens outer clothes all the time that are "androgynous". Although I don't wear leggings & long sleeved tees as underwear, I do have womens thermal underwear which are similar
https://www.walmart.com/ip/MISS-MOLY...from=%2Fsearch

Interesting. One of my golf buddies also hunts. He told me his wife suggested he wear thigh Highs to keep his legs warm while hunting. Very defensively he denied being a cder. I just smiled, as I?ve been wearing them for years and love how they feel. My accepting wife agrees, saying They?re just clothes. So, I guess one could call it CDing, but who really cares? JMO.

when I was young my girlfriends dad used to wear 2 pairs of his wifes tights for work, he was in and out of a giant freezer at work and he found after trying many clothes they was the warmest things to wear.

Jacques, let's ignore that you are wearing dresses. Oh! You are not a crossdresser anymore.

By definition you are a CD.
There is no exclusion because "a men's ... is more expensive". Just admit it and move on sister.

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Originally Posted by jacques

hello all,
If a man wears women's clothes for practical reason is that crossdressing?
For example, it is very cold here in northern England this week - so I am wearing some women's clothing for the warmth - for example: women's legging's under my trousers because they cost less than men's long-johns and fit better, women's long sleeved tee shirts because men's ones are hard to find and cost more and a women's thick padded hooded coat because I have never seen one of those on sale for men.
So is that "cross-dressing" or just being practical (if you ignore the fact that I also wear dresses at other times of the year)?
luv J

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Cloth by itself does not have, but a small amount of gender association. You can take most cloth and fashion it into a female garment, or a male garment. Add some lace of floral decorations and its female. Add nothing for decoration and its male. The utility of cloth is not affected. Design of the garment is usually centered on the practicality of fit. For example, if a tight, stretchy material provides the desired utility, then is it crossdressing? Crossdressing is wigs, makeup, movement and presentation of female attributes. Consequently, I believe you can wear all the panties and leggings you want without having to ask the crossdressing question. How do these garments make you feel in another question, but that is your business. Live you life to the fullest and forget the labels.

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Originally Posted by Sandi Beech

Haha ,

Well let me try that idea out on my wife. My guess is that it would land me in the dog house.

Sandi

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Video record it please! I would so love to see that! Lol

I'm too small to wear men's clothes so I wear women's clothes. I just bought a cute pleated XS skirt for $16 from Revolve. XS clothes can be really inexpensive. :)

I second Sandi's HaHa!!

When I was a teenager I was super skinny. My mother bought me girl's slacks and shirts because they fit better. For a year I didn't even know that they were girl's clothes. When my dad pointed out that "That shirt has darts!"... too late by then. It was my favorite shirt. So, if I didn't know it, what it crossdressing? If a tree falls in the woods...? I'll say this, after I found out it most certainly was crossdressing and I LOVED it! I also wore girl's platform heels. This was the '70's and men wore chunky platform heels, too, but they didn't come small enough for me, so she bought me girl's platforms. Almost indistinguishable from the men's version except a little narrower heel and a little higher. I, of course, ate it up. Also a practical reason for buying me panties. She had bought me some men's nylon briefs of various colors. They were expensive compared to panties, so when it came time for more she explained that there's really no difference except price. It certainly made a difference to me, but I acquiesced! Seems she had a practical reason for a lot of things. I also wore pantyhose "to keep warm".

Actually, I think there is WAY too much emphasis on whether something comes from the boys dept. or the girl's dept. A friend of mine's son had to go to a thing where he needed to wear slacks instead of his usual sweats. He is also very skinny and they found it very difficult to find slacks that would fit him. I suggested they just buy girl's slacks and they just rejected that idea immediately. I don't know why that's such a hot button with some people.

Rhonda, just an observation here. Is there any chance your mother enjoyed helping you cross dress? Many young guys who want to cross dress would love having a mother so supportive.

So, my daughter when she was a young adult wore men's jeans because men's jeans had functional pockets and women's jeans did not. She also wore men's shoes because they were less expensive. My granddaughter raided my flannel shirts because bought her jeans in the young men's section because she has not hips. My wife also wore men's jeans on occasion. My wife routinely borrows and has her own graphic tee shirts that are a man's cut as a women's style does not work as well. They may be wearing men's clothing and may be cross-dressing (a verb) but are not cross dressers (a noun). None of them got their kicks wearing men's clothing.

Jacques, I would say it's not crossdressing.

In the strictest sense of the word in the dictionary, it is CD'ing, so what! The meaning of words can evolve into something else over a period of time. If I look at it from what I am reading, then I am no longer a CD'er. I say wear what you want, from wherever you buy it, and enjoy your life.

I love to wear woman?s clothes. I take time to pick them out. Enjoy putting them on. My Male clothes, I just out on as fast as possible. I don?t enjoy it

My observation (as a GG) - If it is cross-dressing, it is not practical. If it is practical (i.e you get no thrill/pleasure/tingle from it) it is probably not cross-dressing.

Women's jeans are definitely not crossdressing since they aren't practical at all (try fitting keys in these so-called pockets).

Intent is the deciding factor IMHO. If one didn't know he was putting on a feminine article of clothing, he wouldn't be a CD. A long sleeve T-shirt might pass for a men's. Leggings? I don't think they make them for men...

I wear women's socks exclusively, because I like the patterns. No one knows they're for women, and I'm not sure what the real difference is since feet are all pretty much shaped the same. I also wear women's jeans exclusively because they're more comfortable. Same for underwear. I really don't consider myself crossdressing when I'm at the sports bar in those things. I wear racerback tanks to work often, marketed for women, but I see other men in racerbacks too. The women's are softer and more comfortable.
Leggings are pushing the boundaries, but when I travel in black leggings I really don't feel like I'm crossdressing either. I've noticed more and more people travelling in pajamas, I'm assuming for the same reason I'm in leggings: comfort.

BUT, I'll admit wearing such things also somewhat calms the pink fog, because at some level I know I'm wearing stuff that a "real" man wouldn't.

AND last weekend my best friend was hanging out with us, he made a joking comment about my "yoga pants" (they were leggings, I don't really know the difference.) I told him my wife plays with my butt more when I'm in leggings. My wife readily agreed. He accepted his loss and had to agree that it wasn't so gay after all. :roflmao:

Definately the long sleeve T shirts as they are softer have more stretch (cotton mix with elastane ?) so fit better. There is nothing worse than wearing a cotton mens long sleeve T that goes baggy around the wrist area. Also footless tights / thick pantihose under jeans for a cold day on the motorbike.

First I must assume "is that crossdressing?" is asking if MOST OTHER people would perceive it as crossdressing. Because if it is just for oneself, one man could wear women's leggings as a practical choice, another could wear them as a form of gender expression.

I'm also going to assume that by "practical" you mean you are choosing women's clothing which is not only functional but also is not overtly feminine. i.e. the women's long sleeved shirt is in a style and color similar to men's tee shirts.

I know a guy who is so skinny he must buy women's clothes to find something that fits, but he buys styles and colors that are very close to the men's versions. And even though I know some of his clothes were bought in the women's department, I don't consider it crossdressing. His public presentation does not cross gender boundaries even though he wears women's jeans and a women's jacket.

So it comes down to this: If I see a man wearing something that I suspect is women's clothing I'm going to try to guess your motivation for doing so. If the man is sticking to unisex styles, or is mixing some slightly feminine styles with men's clothing, I'll probably assume this is either for practical or personal style reasons. [Man in a dress or man in a bra (i.e. overtly feminine) would probably make me think crossdressing.] But then there comes a point where the presentation is completely feminine (but they have some male physical characteristics) that I would assume they are trans rather than crossdressing.

12/523 Edit: I'm questioning the part in brackets above based on a response I made to a different question. Maybe a better way to put it is that because I identify as a crossdresser, then I am predisposed to seeing others in that light, wanting to see that I'm not the only one. But I would not say anything about these thoughts. As far as how I act around others, I want to take your presentation at face value without assumptions about your gender identity or sexuality.

My wife suggested buying women's clothes when we couldn't find men's clothes that fit. I told her I was transgender before we got married but continued to wear men's clothing for about ten years.
When I started buying women's clothes that looked like men's clothes I started wearing Victoria's Secret PJs to bed, and we had that talk setting boundaries of how far I'd be able to transition before having another talk about boundaries.

It wasn't until she passed that I bought my first bra and kitten heels at the nearest Target.

I've completely transitioned to wearing distinctly women's clothes all the time. Pink is my favorite color. Though I've been more neutral and pastel colors that also have a feminine vibe.
My latest purchase, a winter jacket for golfing, is very form fitting and shows off my thin waist!

Marion

Come on, stop tge craziness. You can find men?s clothing to function the same as women clothes. Men?s compression pants, same as pantiehose . You can put on two, three, four pair on. We dress in woman?s clothing because we have to. We don?t look for men?s clothes, Wecfeel better in woman?s clothing. That why we are cross dress

I purposely look for women's clothes that look similar to men's clothes, so I can wear women's clothes in public. I am a practical crossdresser.

When I was in the army during jungle training supposedly some guys would wear panty hose to help keep the leaches off their skin. I never did. During road marches some guys would wear those short womens sock like stockings to help prevent getting blisters.

Me? Well I would wear panties under my uniform because I liked the way they felt.:daydreaming: