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Money and dressing
This could well be just confirmation bias but from the people I have spoken to here who dress, all have very good job/retired with cash.
I am wondering if there's a corrolation between having the money and dressing.
Just a curious thing to talk about maybe
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I have been low income all my life. I have also noticed that most on here have had pretty good careers, or are retired. I did hard labor all my life, except for security guard work later in life. Was a gravedigger, paint factory worker, baled hay for farmers, laborer, new construction window washer, landscaper, cared for a quadriplegic man, security, Air Force. Helped my elderly father the past six years. No SO, or wife, or supportive family. Very few friends. Lots of acquaintences. Strted full dressing at age 51, but did minor dressing at age 13, off and on. Every time i start to save a bit of money, another big car repair, or dental work, or something else blows it away. A proverb says money sprouts wings, ans flies away!
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For me no the correlation does not apply. Dressing is deep within me, is part of my psyche. Sure I have a good pension but that still does not give me the ability to just go out and buy whatever I fancy, round the next corner there is always going to be something to trip up the status quo.
Also available money does not drive the need the want to dress. Dressing is something deep within all of us, and as such especially for me money does not drive me to dress. I dress because I want to, to feel feminine and to encompass a way of life deeply embedded within me. A meaningful way of life which I feel would not be if it was just driven by money plus the fact that such a life would be like a light switch on and off depending on needs whereas dressing from a deeply embedded need is quite a separate to dressing because there is money to do it.
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I agree with Bobbi. Money really has nothing to do with the desire to dress.
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Alas, rich girl, po' girl.. I have been both...Spent far more time in the poor category but, I'd definitely say that cash-flow has little bearing on our pastime. I've acquired whatever I wanted/needed regardless of the shallow nature of my pockets. but then, when things get good, it's off to the designer stores (Hermes being my favorite!), and have fun! even if it's once in 10 years, no matter, it's fun anyway...
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I think I see your point. I know for me I always wanted to dress and had pieces but to achieve my full move to go out, yes I agree money was beneficial. I was able to experiment and try without worrying about cash. That helped, I can see doing ti with less especially today with the internet and more freedom, but for me money was very helpful.
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It could just be that it seems that way because only the people with good money talk about how much money they have. Could have nothing at all to do with dressing.
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I have unfortunately lived paycheck to paycheck for most of my life. I'm not proud, it just is what it is. It may be easier for some one who is retired with a few bucks to dress but that is about it. I don't think money has anything to do with it in any shape or form. Maybe just in the sense that some of us shop at Walmart, Target, and Thrift shops while others can afford to shop at more high end stores. That's about it.
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I don't have tons of money but am far from destitute. As has been said, this has no bearing on my dressing, and as I have pretty much everything I need already I only have to buy sundries like make up and tights. I do buy things every now and then, but have to keep it under control as my wife would love to know where the money is going!
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Having money is certainly the gateway to having lots of possessions, clothes and accessories, but I can't see that it makes us what we are.
I've worked all my life, minimal time unemployed, but certainly not well off. Living in south-east London, it's not the most expensive place in the world, but it doesn't help either.
They say that being a multi-millionaire won't make you happy. OK, so when is it my turn to put the theory to the test?
Becky
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Dressing doesn't require loads of cash. For those who are on a low income it's more the justification of where the money is spent. More available cash makes it easier to purchase nicer clothing (more) & to have accessories such as natural hair wigs,jewelry, fashionable shoes etc. With more disposable income one can experiment on one's own style, afford makeovers, pedicures, manicures and stylists. Those that are fortunate to have available spare cash can also travel for social gatherings away from their location thus allowing them to maintain a separation of their other lives. (If they require it)
For anyone we must have clothing,it just depends on are we out or not. Jocks & socks or panties & hose can be worn out under pants/jeans without anyone being aware. Yes for us who live this life with limited funds it can be more difficult to dress to our own perceived image, but look in the real world and women dress to all different standards in all kinds of clothing.
Btw gina shiney lives the limited income life.
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I can see where it would appear to be the case. If you have money you can buy the things you need and have money to get out and do things. Then you come online and post your fun times. If your low in disposable income you can't afford to get out as much.
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Nah, I don't think so. My Mum used to collect from food banks. Our meat used to come in tins with a VAT 69 style font and have E.E.C. typed on them. I've done OK for myself in adult life and had the same core identity throughout. if it was a little corrupted at times.
I will say money does make things a lot more accessible but it's on the individual to access the right things.
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Money has nothing to do with the DESIRE to dress but certainly can affect the amount and type of clothing one can buy.
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If you have the time and resources to be on this forum, even if you're dirt poor, you are probably doing better than 50% of the world's population. Add to that fact, that you must speak English with at least some fluency, and you are narrowing it down. Quite frankly, if you are spending a huge amount of time here, then you have a luxury. Otherwise, you might consider spending your time at gainful employment!
And remember participating on this board has no correlation to the amount of time, money spent or even how "complete" anyone ACTUALLY dresses! It's just a forum!
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Ha ha ha. I been poor all my life and I now live in a trailer, but I'm kinda happy. I started out trans when young and was forced to leave school cause I would have been killed. So I have no education, but I do have skills but no matter how nicely I dress, they still won't hire me, a tans girl. I even had to do nasty stuff when young to survive, today some would call it escort service, but I wasn't all that classy to be called an escort, just a teen with no where to go. So I relied on men to support me in some way or another. Now I am free of all that but still poor, lol.
PS-I don't have a computer, I have to go down away a bit and use someone else's.
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I do like your new picture better! I don't believe money really matters in our community..I am just a factory worker..I am still new here but I hope it is about learning new things
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Not sure that "having money" makes any difference.
If the will to dress is there one will find a way to dress. Goodwill Salvation Army etc are get ways to build an inexpensive wardrobe.
If you notice some here post pics with the brand name/designer and cost of the item.
I suppose they do it to brag or to make others think they have lots of money.
Generally people with lots of money never brag like that so you know that person that does brag has just spent their rent money on $400 designer shoes.
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Correlation and Dependence?
There is no definitive answer, it is all relative to the individual, their current circumstance and their state of mind.
I'll openly say that I spend money on myself because I love myself! But if I break down the amount of money I spend on manicures it will equate to about AU$3. per week. All of my clothes are second hand ( except underwear and swimwear of course ) and I have never spent over $12. on a dress from the OP shop/ salvation army store.
Now I will say that I know where Dior in Sydney is and just like Tama I also am partial to Hermes.
Now that I have confused myself and don't know if I'm rich or poor, the one thing I do know is that no matter what happens in my financial world, I will always be Stacy, and love her for richer or for poorer.
That was confusing!
Stacy!
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Most CDs I know are quite intelligent or talented. And sometimes that intelligence has helped some in landing a good paying job or career. Since I've been a musician my entire life, there have been ups and downs. I've never been wealthy. Looking back, I mostly blame myself for the periods when I was poor. I could have made better decisions when I was younger but also I lacked information. Ignorance is not bliss.
Some don't have the drive to become wealthy or financially comfortable. Being born into poverty is obviously a disadvantage, yet it gives some people a reason to work hard to build up a bank account. Sometimes I feel sorry for those that never experienced poverty.
I closing, it has nothing to do with the desire to cross dress - Just the ability to shop!
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It is a very expensive hobby, no question about that.
This forum does seem to skew a bit older.
With age, you hopefully have moved further along in your career and have more disposable income.
And also as you age, you start to care less and less about what other people think, and thus you become a little more bold with things like cross dressing. My feelings anyway.
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Ressie the last line in your post is dead on the money!!!
For a musician to get a decent bank account going you need to gig every night of the week and not keep a running bar tab.
People think musicians make lots of money but no thats not how it works these days.
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Having money does not affect the desire to dress. Those who are most visible in the trans community tend to be better off, though.
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I think the RETIRED aspect provides more time and leisure to engage in crossdressing. I don't think its a $$$ thing at all except that a person should be financially secure before they retire and leave a needed career.
When some men - our forum members - had active careers, crossdressing meant more risk, greater exposure, limited resources, etc. Now with time, there's no rush. More time to think about "it".
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I've $20 to last me from Friday to next pay (Thursday), luckily I already have a full wardrobe so today (Sunday) I still managed to get out pretty and have a $4 coffee, read the shops newspaper and just people watched for a bit.
I probably could have gone to the museum or art gallery (both free), gone to the beach, walk the dog etc.
I do actually have more money but trying to reduce bills (vets bill & daughters Uni fees), so living as cheap as possible.