Your Self-Love Is Not My Self-Love
(To Reine)
My research indicates that some women do derive sexual pleasure from their breasts in sexual situations. I will concede that glancing in the mirror generally doesn’t qualify as a sexual event.
(To Everyone)
I believe that autogynephilia is an imaginary disorder. It doesn’t exist for anyone, not even the people who confess to having it. If self-love does exist, it is subjective self-love, not objective self-love. It is love of the person we really are or love of our essential nature, not love of an imitation or artificial version of ourselves. TG and TS self-identification and expression do not spring from a desire to be something we are not. If other people would allow TG and TS people to be themselves then the false issue of self-induced sexual isolation would fade away.
I think u both missed something!
Pink and Jo Ann, it's perfectly OK to jump rite in on ANY thread!
However, u both may have missed my earlier post:
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Pink Person
I believe that autogynephilia is an imaginary disorder. It doesn’t exist for anyone, not even the people who confess to having it. If self-love does exist, it is subjective self-love, not objective self-love. It is love of the person we really are or love of our essential nature, not love of an imitation or artificial version of ourselves.
Pink, u can believe in autogynephilia. Or NOT! I don't think that's important.
But, I believe I'm living proof, that the rest of your argument just isn't valid!
In my earlier post, I explained my involvement with Sherry, my "alter ego". To me, she IS an object, and NOT any part of myself, that I can relate to! Which results in GUILT for my CDing!:sad:
If she isn't an, "--imitation or artificial version of myself", I don't know what/who is!
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Originally Posted by
jo_ann
Well of course it's subjective, if it were objective that would mean it was real (I.E. I could physically turn myself into a woman at will). It's a fantasy, an idea, but most sexuality is in the mind.
While I agree with MOST of your post, Jo Ann, I can't with this last paragraph.
The mind is CERTAINLY the body part that is MOST important for arousal.
However, with the latest scientific advances, (or fetish devices, pick the term U prefer), I CAN physically change into a female!:eek:
Or, at least enuff to satisfy MY FANTASIES! ( I think my pics speak to my gender change!):o
I may be the ONLY CD here that "objectifies" themselves. But, how many do u and Pink need, to prove it's possible?:brolleyes:
You Don't Have A Sick Boner
My definition of subjective self-love means love of yourself as the inner subject of your being or love of your internal essential self. Objective self-love means love of yourself as an object of thought or love of an artificial version of yourself that exists outside of your true self. If you were born male but your true self is TG or TS then you aren’t autogynephilic no matter what you do for sexual gratification.
Crazy People Say No To Me
I don’t know anyone who is opposed to having a sexual partner. I know some people who are opposed to having sex with me but I don’t know the name of the mental illness that afflicts them.