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    On Violence

    I am posting this here, but anyone is free to answer. Have any transmen here been in fistfights, or violent encounters? Do any of you have thoughts of violence? I have had only one real fight, way back in high school, [I won!]. As a rule, I am not a violent, or agressive person but I do have thoughts of violence once in a while. I think its true of most men. I was just wondering how transmen feel about it.

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    I stay away from physical confrontation altogether. I'm more the type of scrawny guy who shoots off his mouth, only to take off in the opposite direction or hide behind somebody bigger.

    And if I really think it's a good idea, I'll even keep my mouth shut.

    I hate violence, basically. Nothing of true importance or real necessity gets solved that way. I might enjoy a clever fistfight in an action movie or something*, but that's about it.

    *And just so you know what I'm talking about: The best fight scene ever.
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    I'm not a violent person by nature, I don't start fights, I don't participate in fights, I don't ever get any hint of road rage. I'm hard to anger and quick to cool down, and I feel violence gets nowhere. I also don't really get violent thoughts or an urge to hit something/someone, pretty much ever.

    I do like artificial violence. I like action movies, and violent video games don't bother me. The only reason I like that though is because it's not real at all, I think it's healthier to put violence in fiction then let it out in real life.


    Oh, and Ze, I'm afraid I'm of the opposite opinion of you: that scene is why that movie is one of my least favorites of all time. I liked the bubblegum line, but the rest of that movie was awful and that fight scene was the worst.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZenFrost View Post
    Oh, and Ze, I'm afraid I'm of the opposite opinion of you: that scene is why that movie is one of my least favorites of all time. I liked the bubblegum line, but the rest of that movie was awful and that fight scene was the worst.
    Ah, yes, the bubblegum line.

    I understand why people wouldn't like that fight scene (or the movie), but it's so terrible to me that I can't help but love it. I just laugh every time!

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    I have not been involved in any fistfights or violent encounters (neither have maybe 80-90% of the GMs I know), although I would do so if I felt the situation called for it.

    Yes I do have violent thoughts, a fair amount of them, but not exactly excessive. Would I act on them? I'm a fairly reserved person so usually I just bottle up everything and give the people in question my death stare (works very well btw). But yes there is that possibility I will lash out when provoked excessively and when social repercussions are minimal. Usually I vent online instead. I regret to say that I have indeed lashed out and hit my younger brother badly, a couple times, when both he and I were fairly young. A combination of a nasty mood, an unfortunate situation, some bad judgement.. etc

    I will add that while being capable of physical aggression, or at least capable of thinking a lot about it, I cannot comprehend social aggression at all.. the hidden, manipulative kind. Being on the receiving end of it a couple times, usually I don't even realise it until its way too obvious. Often makes me bewildered and confused not knowing what to do next and thus "losing".


    About that fight scene..
    I'm really not a movie person, the last movie I watched was when Wall-E came out. Yes that was something like a year ago heh.
    Anyway watched that snippet from the youtube link. Thought it was a bit too fake for my tastes... way too many sound effects coming from the guys' mouths "uh" "ah" etc at every shot.. from the beginning to the end.. expected more of a silent exchanging of blows, maybe with a ton of swear words thrown in. And a bit too much ground wrestling and throws around here and there, kind of detracted from the fighting itself imo.. I don't think people have fights like that in RL, but hey I've never actually witnessed one in RL (or even in movies, actually) so what do I know lol.

    I do wonder how they filmed that though, looks painful, doesn't seem to be ethical to injure actors while filming and some of those blows looked pretty harsh, especially the backwards-falling-on-tarred-road part.
    FTM TG, can be a bit blunt at times.


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    Sorry, Ze. . . looked boring and very unrealistic. . . though I'm sure it made more sense in the context of the movie.

    As for violence. . . I'm an extremely violent person. I got into one fight with another guy in middle school and very nearly a couple more in high school. I've gotten into numerous physical arguments with my husband. . . knocked him out at least thrice. (I am glad that he's a fairly patient man.) As he is fond of telling me, being female-bodied is the only thing that has kept me from winding up in fisticuffs someone about once a week.

    I think some of that anger stems from frustration at not being able to get into fights. A guy gets mad at me and thinks, "Oh, I'm pissed, but I can't hit her: she's a girl." I wish I could be taken seriously as a man, i.e., a guy would be willing to hit me if I provoked him to it, and given that kind of respect. And I feel time is slipping away on me, because I am fast reaching the age where only brawlers and unsavory characters express their aggression physically.
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    I'm an angry person. I've never been in a fight though, as I'm more likely to just avoid confrontation. I've broken STUFF though. It's possible to be a 'violent' person and have self-control.
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